Guild Wars 2

The achievement list has always been like a goals list or perhaps a list of things to challenge myself with. Even before the shinies, I was working my way through them. The shinies are just a nice bonus now.

I haven’t heard anything recently, nothing beyond its on their todo list of things they want to get into the game. Its not mentioned in the 2nd half of the year plan, so probably won’t see anything about it this year.

cesmode.4257:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

For gear, they need to give us some type of character gear ‘closet’ for ease of storing multiple sets….and then the drop down would be nifty. Store the set, assign it a name in your drop down, swap at will. Inventory space all cleared up.

Ah, a girl can dream

Along with this…split it into actual gear, and skins. If I like some crummy level 20 skin, I should be able to spend karma, deposit it as a skin so I can use that whenever I want. Maybe even a withdraw fee.

My thought line was that the closet would be for the actual gear sets a char had – zerk set, pvt set, mf set, w/e. Each char would have their own, which would only store its armor. Sort of a combination of an armor wallet and templating system.

For skins, we’d need something else. Something similar to the pvp locker, so any char could grab and use it if they chose. Not sure how to work multiples of a skin… maybe your fee idea, in combination having to deposit it to unlock it. Dunno. We kind of skittered off the OP’s initial topic though.

Katreyn.4218:

This must be the same people that drop “Fun boxes” on top of Bank and Trading Post NPCs.

I’ve done this once, but it was accidental due to lag. I thought I moved, when I actually hadn’t. Felt awful afterwards cause I hate when people do crap like this.

Well, you sort of opened it up to suggestions when you said not to get lazy here’s more ideas, lol. I was just expounding upon the one.

Still, I’m happy with the game presently. No gripes here.

For gear, they need to give us some type of character gear ‘closet’ for ease of storing multiple sets….and then the drop down would be nifty. Store the set, assign it a name in your drop down, swap at will. Inventory space all cleared up.

Ah, a girl can dream

Paulytnz.7619:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

HawkMeister.4758:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Please no mounts….. I don’t want them things in this game. I really don’t.

Haah!
No worries there. It´ll be yet another useless inventory cluttering(when actually used) minipet.
Or it could be a free token for one of these RNG gated weapon skins .. naah.
That would be too cool.

blinks I like minis. I wouldn’t have an issue if it were a mini honestly. Although, I do have to agree that we have quite a few.

We will just have to wait a couple of weeks and see. It’ll be nice to get a little freebie this month. Maybe it will help me forget about the fact that I’m having my wisdom teeth yanked right about that time….

Oh mate, been there done that, all 4 at once – it’s really not that bad just a couple of days in bed with the meds. I used my time in bed to re-watch the LOTR movies lol maybe you can just play GW2 some more.

I only have to have my bottom ones pulled, since they came in on 45 degree angles. Not looking forward to it either way. Thankfully my top ones dont need it….they grew in, well horizontally. My dentist was shocked, cause he’s never seen it happen before.

Tachenon.5270:

What about… mount tonics?

C’mere so I can smack you….

See, I don’t have any issues with Trahearne….. he’s just another Togo, or Kormir.

You must not like most MMOs…… cause this is pretty much how they all seem to work from my experience. ‘Escort this npc’ ‘Kill this many critters for this npc’ ‘Protect this npc from this mob’ ‘Help this npc kill random boss’ Pretty much how it works, its all a variation of the same themes.

I liked it too.

This stuff should be ‘discover able’ in the game though. A lot of people miss these lore tidbits, which help to bring the current story alive because they don’t think/know to check the website.

I’d watch that too. Would love to see some of things that I could never, ever possibly, even remotely fathom doing.

HawkMeister.4758:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Please no mounts….. I don’t want them things in this game. I really don’t.

Haah!
No worries there. It´ll be yet another useless inventory cluttering(when actually used) minipet.
Or it could be a free token for one of these RNG gated weapon skins .. naah.
That would be too cool.

blinks I like minis. I wouldn’t have an issue if it were a mini honestly. Although, I do have to agree that we have quite a few.

We will just have to wait a couple of weeks and see. It’ll be nice to get a little freebie this month. Maybe it will help me forget about the fact that I’m having my wisdom teeth yanked right about that time….

shrugs

Doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Its just a word.

People speak and write differently, it is slightly unique to each person…just like your signature, for example. Our choice of wording, how we phrase a thought, all tell others things about us. The use of the term ‘amongst’ and ‘mayhap’ might lead one to believe that the user is possibly older, or may have had a slightly more rigid, traditional upbringing. If someone uses the terms ‘whilst’ or ‘telly’ it may betray that their nationality may be different than your (typically British terms for example). On the other hand, if someone says something like ’i’m the shiznit bro’ I suddenly have images of a teenage boy that needs to have his pants yanked up and be told to put on a kitten belt.

I spent 2 hours in Pavilion last night, didn’t note any change in drops. I made like 10-15 gold just merching my boat load of greens and junk. Not sure how much from the yellows I threw on the TP (5 or 6 of them), since I didn’t check that before I logged out. Figure I can pick that up when I log on tonight for a couple of hours.

Paulytnz.7619:

Atlas.9704:

“We will offer a gift to players; it’s something we did in Guild Wars 1 and we’ll bring it back in Guild Wars 2 when their character turns one year-old,”

Please birthday minis, please birthday minis…..

I was thinking this when I first made all my 8 chars on day one of early release. But now there is sooooo many minis in game already and it’s not even a year old yet! So now I’m hoping it’s something totally different, who knows maybe the introduction of mounts. :P

Please no mounts….. I don’t want them things in this game. I really don’t.

Hopefully it’s not tonics either… I was less than thrilled about tonics are bday gifts in gw1 for the old chracters

Vahkris.6847:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Lutinz.6915:

Official Dev Word is actually that they havent decided how they will release expansion style content since the Living World is something that is very new and they are still figuring out what works with it and what doesnt.

Colin Johansson has said that they have a large dev crew working on longer term projects for the game but they arent ready to talk about what is being worked on yet. How they release this content, either as super large LS updates or paid expansions, hasnt been decided on yet.

This… right here ^^^^^^.

Gosh, still not even a year old and calling for an expansion [again].

If you are bored, find something else to do for a little while. Its not like your account is going to be removed if you opt to take a break.

Some were calling for an expansion within the first month.

Which is why I had the [again] at the end.

I’ve always been a supporter of the living story, at least what the end goal of it was. In some instances I’ve felt it was too monotonous, or didn’t have enough depth, or was a bit slow. However, I’ve patiently watched and waiting. Taking part and offering my feedback as we went along. (And yelled at loudly for my opinions)

This LS, is fun. I finally was able to get on last night, and I completed a large chunk of the achievements without really ‘trying.’ Sure, I swapped reps to work on those, but I wasnt actively tracking them. It was more of an ‘oh crap, thats done….when’d i finish it?’ and swap to the next. But I was just enjoying all the bouncing around, and all the people. At one point I had so much stuff flashing around on my screen from a boss battle that my game was just like ‘nope, not taking anymore’ and just froze. I laughed until it hurt, I should have taken a screenshot….everything was so….colorful. Normally that would kitten me off, but I was just having too much fun to care last night.

Lutinz.6915:

Official Dev Word is actually that they havent decided how they will release expansion style content since the Living World is something that is very new and they are still figuring out what works with it and what doesnt.

Colin Johansson has said that they have a large dev crew working on longer term projects for the game but they arent ready to talk about what is being worked on yet. How they release this content, either as super large LS updates or paid expansions, hasnt been decided on yet.

This… right here ^^^^^^.

Gosh, still not even a year old and calling for an expansion [again].

If you are bored, find something else to do for a little while. Its not like your account is going to be removed if you opt to take a break.

Haven’t we had like a half dozen of these threads recently? Deja vu here….

Gah, now I cant wait to get on the game. Havent been able to get on due to updates the last two nights, and now I’m just dying to play.

Yup. In fact its habit for me to hit ‘deposit collectables’ followed immediately by ‘compact’ to clean up my space. I also remove the bag breaks so it looks like all 1 giant bag. I know my last 16 slots are invis, so I put things I want to save there and I spread my window out so that there is 8 ‘pockets’ in each row. I can usually flip through and clean my inventory pretty quickly.

I can understand the WvW char-bound gripe for ranks. I mean, I can see why they did it, yet at the same time, some of the reqs are outragous and unless you main a single char in WvW, it’s not happening. They either need to reduce some of the reqs, to make doing it on multiple chars not quite so intimidating, or bring wvw ranks into line with other titles/achieves by making them account bound.

rfdarko.4639:

Again, this isn’t about gold, its about dungeon tokens. That is fundamental. Honestly, you are missing the point entirely. Dungeon tokens are a very specific currency used to buy soulbound armor, and also are not interchangeable between different dungeons. It is NOT in any way equivalent to a gold reward. Please, stop derailing the discussion.

And yet you can farm the tokens on your main, to use on an alt to get the alt’s soulbound armor. Because while the armor is soulbound, the tokens are account bound. If you know when you make the char that you are going to want a specific dungeon armor on it, you can start working toward that long before the char is leveled enough to need it. So the fact that you cant get the full 60 tokens on every character each day is sort of moot in this case.

Yes, before the patch you could get the full token on each alt every day, the first run of the path. Obviously they felt they made this too easy to obtain them, or it could be an oversight, since I didn’t see info on it one way or the other. I didnt think being able to continually get the max tokens, no matter how many chars you ran was in line with the other reward limiting they had done. Now it is simply more in line with it. Still, not a huge deal.

Just because I used ‘gold’ as my example shiny, doesnt mean the same cannot be applied to other currencies, and tokens are just that, another currency.

Also, since when has ‘soul bound’ stopped anyone from transmuting it to a white to be passed to another character? Because its exotic? Ha. From my understand, people dont want the majority of the dungeon armor stats anyway, as they arent ‘zerker’ so they’re just getting the ‘look’ to be transmuted anyway….

Mad Rasputin.7809:

A person playing 2 characters does not have more ‘stuff’ than a person playing 1 character for the same amount of time.

If a person is playing for 2 hours, regardless of whether it is 1 character or 2, he/she is still going to receive the same amount of loot.

You can’t miraculously cause loot to increase just because you are running on an ALT versus running your main.

The general thought here is that people with more alts typically have more time to play, or invest more time into the game than someone with fewer.

You are correct that in a 1 to 1 scenario, you don’t get ‘more’ than another person. 1 hour of play on a main is essentially equal to one hour of play on an alt. However, a person that only has a few hours a week to play (and therefore doesnt necessarily invest as much in alts) has, just by the lack of hours, less than someone that plays 8 hours a day.

The issue that here though is more for dungeons. Why should player ‘a’ (who has 12 characters) have the right to make 12g off a single dungeon path, while player ‘b’ (who is already penalized simply by not having the playing time of person a) can only get 2g (because he only has 2 characters). You should automatically make more just because you have more chars? The alts are nothing more than cash cows?

People argue that “well i spent the time, i should get more” however, you already have more just by spending the time to begin with. If you opt to run the dungeon again, you still get loot, you just dont get the gold, which is the same if person b opts to run it again. There is nothing wrong with this in my opinion, although I’m sure most here disagree.

This is a small equalizer. Miniscule in the grand scheme of the game. They could have made it so that people with fewer chars made more. At which point, then we could argue that it was pointless to have alts.

Blix.8021:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Blix.8021:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Blix.8021:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

lilstev.3498:

Slither Shade.4782:

Everyone owes it to his self to make a zerk warrior or zerk something. Even if I got bored with it after a couple runs it is fun to take out for a spin once in a while.

Totally agree with this!

It lets you know how much you’ve been relying on survivability stats IMO.
It’ll make you a better player or at least better dodger/evader, cause if try to take hits as a Zerk you’ll eat kitten real quick…..

Once you become really good at evading mechanics, I cant think of a reason why you would roll any other setup, unless your group is so bad that have to support them the whole time…..

And again with the ‘if you’re not running zerker you must be bad’ mentality. Ugh!

non zerker choice =/= bad

kitten , all it means is that they choose to play a different way and that. is. their. right. You don’t have to play with them. They don’t have to play with you.

I can choose to sit in the back with a longbow at 1500 range with a bear pet, but it doesn’t mean that it is a good choice or that people should support bad choices.

Yet, if it doesnt affect you in any way…….why does it bother you?

Mind your own business, and other people will mind theirs. You play your way, they will play theirs. Problem solved. Why is this so hard to grasp?

It does effect me when people choose to play their class poorly. If I see a ranger in my groups not meleeing and dropping healing spring at the appropriate time, he will be kicked for not helping as much as he (easily) could be. I don’t get to play my warrior as a rifle warrior (I picked my charr warrior because I thought they looked cool in the cinematics with guns), so they don’t get to play a purposely poor playstyle, either. People that join my groups are expected to contribute as much as they can.

Then you should be more specific in your LFG info. Generally speaking people like that ranger, and people like myself don’t desire to play with people like you. We aren’t playing the game ‘to work.’

Some people actually play a Ranger to a ranged class. Amazing isn’t it? Nothing wrong with that.

Maybe they didnt opt to bring healing spring because they figured their teammates would take care of themselves, thats supposed to be what you’re supposed to do after all. Isnt it? Support is neither needed nor desired by the masses on here, crowing about being so awesome in their zerker gear.

chuckle Oh the irony.

Support is extremely desirable, just not healing power builds. Walls, reflects, pulls, pushes, condition cleanses, blinds, fields, finishers, are all wonderful support and can be done in zerker gear.

And can be done better in other gear types, and depending on which, without significant impact to the overall dps. Yes there are trade offs, however the game is not about just power through and getting to the next shiny for many of us.

They only time what someone else is wearing affects you is if you are in a group with them, as you have pointed out. This is remedied with clear LFG requirements as I pointed out. Other narrow minded individuals will play with you, other individuals like myself that really arent as judgmental will play with me. We bother each other not at all. So again, wheres the issue?

Blix.8021:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Blix.8021:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

lilstev.3498:

Slither Shade.4782:

Everyone owes it to his self to make a zerk warrior or zerk something. Even if I got bored with it after a couple runs it is fun to take out for a spin once in a while.

Totally agree with this!

It lets you know how much you’ve been relying on survivability stats IMO.
It’ll make you a better player or at least better dodger/evader, cause if try to take hits as a Zerk you’ll eat kitten real quick…..

Once you become really good at evading mechanics, I cant think of a reason why you would roll any other setup, unless your group is so bad that have to support them the whole time…..

And again with the ‘if you’re not running zerker you must be bad’ mentality. Ugh!

non zerker choice =/= bad

kitten , all it means is that they choose to play a different way and that. is. their. right. You don’t have to play with them. They don’t have to play with you.

I can choose to sit in the back with a longbow at 1500 range with a bear pet, but it doesn’t mean that it is a good choice or that people should support bad choices.

Yet, if it doesnt affect you in any way…….why does it bother you?

Mind your own business, and other people will mind theirs. You play your way, they will play theirs. Problem solved. Why is this so hard to grasp?

It does effect me when people choose to play their class poorly. If I see a ranger in my groups not meleeing and dropping healing spring at the appropriate time, he will be kicked for not helping as much as he (easily) could be. I don’t get to play my warrior as a rifle warrior (I picked my charr warrior because I thought they looked cool in the cinematics with guns), so they don’t get to play a purposely poor playstyle, either. People that join my groups are expected to contribute as much as they can.

Then you should be more specific in your LFG info. Generally speaking people like that ranger, and people like myself don’t desire to play with people like you. We aren’t playing the game ‘to work.’

Some people actually play a Ranger to a ranged class. Amazing isn’t it? Nothing wrong with that.

Maybe they didnt opt to bring healing spring because they figured their teammates would take care of themselves, thats supposed to be what you’re supposed to do after all. Isnt it? Support is neither needed nor desired by the masses on here, crowing about being so awesome in their zerker gear.

chuckle Oh the irony.

Actually Ive noticed this as well, I figured it was just me though. Ele, staf: fire skill 4, and air skill 3. The first is a backward roll, the other is a push back. In either case I, or the foe (depending on which is being used), rubberbands right back about 50% of the time. Very annoying

Blix.8021:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

lilstev.3498:

Slither Shade.4782:

Everyone owes it to his self to make a zerk warrior or zerk something. Even if I got bored with it after a couple runs it is fun to take out for a spin once in a while.

Totally agree with this!

It lets you know how much you’ve been relying on survivability stats IMO.
It’ll make you a better player or at least better dodger/evader, cause if try to take hits as a Zerk you’ll eat kitten real quick…..

Once you become really good at evading mechanics, I cant think of a reason why you would roll any other setup, unless your group is so bad that have to support them the whole time…..

And again with the ‘if you’re not running zerker you must be bad’ mentality. Ugh!

non zerker choice =/= bad

kitten , all it means is that they choose to play a different way and that. is. their. right. You don’t have to play with them. They don’t have to play with you.

I can choose to sit in the back with a longbow at 1500 range with a bear pet, but it doesn’t mean that it is a good choice or that people should support bad choices.

Yet, if it doesnt affect you in any way…….why does it bother you?

Mind your own business, and other people will mind theirs. You play your way, they will play theirs. Problem solved. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Rhysati.4932:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I can agree with the change. Even having six characters myself, this is fine to me. Why should I be able to exploit a path repeatedly just because I have more characters. Just by having more chars I already have more stuff just from playing than a person that doesn’t. However, as much as I like having gold and shinies, I don’t need to be miles ahead of the theortitical 1 or 2 char player. Honestly, if you want to do a dungeon path more than once, on other characters you should be doing it because you want to, not for the loot at the end, but hey just my opinion.

Of course…I don’t just work ‘only’ for a paycheck either, I actually enjoy my job. Its pretty much the same idea. “Do it because you love it, not because of the rewards it gives you”

Edit: Needed to rephrase.

The problem isn’t that you can’t get things faster by having alts…it’s that you actually get them MUCH slower.

If you have one 80, you will get your dungeon tokens in the standard time. But, if you have say 8 level 80s, it will take you 8 times as long to get your characters geared up. You can’t work on them all at the same time even though you may have plenty of time in your day.

You are, in this case, actually punished for having alternate characters. If I need tokens from one particular dungeon, I spend an hour or two and get them, and then…what now? Well my other characters need the same tokens. So…now I just log off for 22-23 hours and try again the next day? That is terrible design.

Yes and no…. I suppose. I guess I look at it differently. When I create my character, I take her to the pvp locker and select her armor ‘look’ so I know what I am working towards on her. In 6 chars, I have not repeated a look on them, and as such I have no need to ‘grind’ dungeon tokens like you are talking about. Now I guess if you have a couple dozen characters, you’ll repeat certain components on other chars, but you can easily gather those materials on a higher char while still leveling the lower one. (Where tokens char bound at some point and I missed it? I’ve only ever seen them as account bound, so I could use them on whoever I wanted)

The only time this is an issue, is in your example, where you’ve already maxed all of them out and you’re in a rush to get your armor. Which begs the question, why weren’t you working toward it already while you leveled that character? To me, selecting and working towards an armor is part of the end game, but we’ve already determined that I approach gaming very differently than most. If you already have an exotic set, are you seeking essentially just an additional look, which again, why the rush? So it takes you a few extra days, its not the end of the world.

Edit: Doing it my way, you don’t get things ‘slower.’ In fact, it helps gear up the the leveling characters faster for me. At least when it comes to exotics. Ascended will be interesting when we finally get it.

Yes. If you logged on to the char, and its monies were added into the wallet, the stuff in the wallet persists even after deleting all chars. Martin covered this in his QA thread about the wallet.

lilstev.3498:

Slither Shade.4782:

Everyone owes it to his self to make a zerk warrior or zerk something. Even if I got bored with it after a couple runs it is fun to take out for a spin once in a while.

Totally agree with this!

It lets you know how much you’ve been relying on survivability stats IMO.
It’ll make you a better player or at least better dodger/evader, cause if try to take hits as a Zerk you’ll eat kitten real quick…..

Once you become really good at evading mechanics, I cant think of a reason why you would roll any other setup, unless your group is so bad that have to support them the whole time…..

And again with the ‘if you’re not running zerker you must be bad’ mentality. Ugh!

non zerker choice =/= bad

kitten , all it means is that they choose to play a different way and that. is. their. right. You don’t have to play with them. They don’t have to play with you.

I can agree with the change. Even having six characters myself, this is fine to me. Why should I be able to exploit a path repeatedly just because I have more characters. Just by having more chars I already have more stuff just from playing than a person that doesn’t. However, as much as I like having gold and shinies, I don’t need to be miles ahead of the theortitical 1 or 2 char player. Honestly, if you want to do a dungeon path more than once, on other characters you should be doing it because you want to, not for the loot at the end, but hey just my opinion.

Of course…I don’t just work ‘only’ for a paycheck either, I actually enjoy my job. Its pretty much the same idea. “Do it because you love it, not because of the rewards it gives you”

Edit: Needed to rephrase.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

well,

living story are one time events
the achievements icon color is purple

activities are not one time events
the achievement icon color is brown

queens gauntlet will return.
the achievements can be attempt again.

Oh thank the six! I really didn’t look forward to trying to cram all those achievements into 2 weeks on 2 accounts….

Kirschwasser.3972:

I actually realized it shortly after posting it, but didn’t bother changing it assuming that my point would ultimately get across anyhow.

My point ultimately was that I had no issue finding groups to go to Underworld with and I wasn’t doing SC and I see absolutely no indication of this taking over dungeons aside from the forums.

Perhaps you had a larger friends list than mine, and used fewer pugs for UW. I liked to PuG, for the sheer enjoyment of meeting new people. Before SCs it was easy to find pug groups (won’t say they were all good, but much easier to find). After….poof, gone.

As for the SCs of the GW2 dungeons…I saw a little bit here and there before. Now, its starting to crop more. On here, on gw2lfg . net/com, even in the map chat lfg calls. I’m starting to see it more and more, and its very disheartening. I can still find ‘regular’ groups for now…

Gee so polite…

..I find ‘GLF ’x’ more, all welcome’ tends to get me further ahead

Kirschwasser.3972:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Kirschwasser.3972:

Honestly, it’s absolutely not hard to find a non-zerker dungeon group. You’re complaining about being looked down upon by Zerkers but that’s, what? On the forums? In the occasional PUG?

I think the concern is with the growing mentality in the game that non-zerker is not acceptable. And it is becoming more prevelent. Soon this issue is going to be just like UWSC. Either you conform, or you simply dont do it.

… Except I used to do UWSC all the time in GW1 without conforming to the meta for it.

So what you’re saying is that it’s going to become an issue in the sense that people are going to continue to complain about what -might- happen, but is easily avoided.

You realize its not ‘UWSC’ if you’re not ‘conforming to the meta’ correct?

The speed clear was an ele, a necro, a rit, and a bunch of flippin sins…occassionally they’d allow a terratank ele for wastes but not often. At the end if you didnt have 100s of stones and maxed pve skills, most groups wouldnt take you.

If you tried to find ‘other’ types of groups to do it (like old school balance) you’d get laughed out of ToA. It was SC or bust.

Been there, done that. DONT want to see it happen again, and we are well on the path to it. The ‘zerk’ warrior, mes, or guard only requests are becoming more and more prevelant. The sc sickness is starting to take over for dungeons, in less than a year, so I’d say we have a justifiable concern.

Kirschwasser.3972:

Honestly, it’s absolutely not hard to find a non-zerker dungeon group. You’re complaining about being looked down upon by Zerkers but that’s, what? On the forums? In the occasional PUG?

I think the concern is with the growing mentality in the game that non-zerker is not acceptable. And it is becoming more prevelent. Soon this issue is going to be just like UWSC. Either you conform, or you simply dont do it.

mage.3570:

Rephrased:

Character diversification is a completely different animal. Having multiple characters slots is not going to do darn thing for you when it comes to the character diversification. Leveling and progressing multiple characters is something some people can do, some people can’t. It has nothing to do with how many character slots you have and having more slots should not give you a distinct advantage.

But as we all know, more characters slots is always good for storage (a resource). So more alts (another resource) should not be frowned upon by those that don’t have or did not bother to level.

Just going to point out that you don’t have to level it for it to be a mule….and no, there is nothing wrong with having characters as mules… Still a big difference between this and the initial thought line I was going for though…

mage.3570:

Nope, wrong. With the latest update, you will soon find out that having more alts gives you fewer options to play in dungeon groups, as they will demand very specific classes/builds to maximize rewards versus time.

Only if you play with those types of people. A lot of us can clear a dungeon in non-optimized groups in close to the same time as the supposedly optimized speed clear idiots (usually 5-10 minute difference depending on the group and path). So no, having more alts is not limiting anyone, except those closed minded individuals that think class ‘x’ or build ‘y’ is worthless and only class ‘v,b,and d’ or whatever should be taken.

Generally speaking, ‘festivals’ that coincide with holidays tend to recur. Dragon Bash is the successor to Dragon Festival, which is (in a sense) our 4th of July celebration. So yes, along with Halloween, and Wintersday, it should recur each year (as per GW1 tradition)

There is a lot of intolerance in this game LilK. From class, to armor, to weapon, to stat choice. It takes a lot of effort to weed through the bigots/idiots/elitists (derogatory usage here) to find the good ones that you like/want to spend time with. All one can do is accept the intolerance and move on, since sadly, nothing is going to fix it.

Ah ty loco, I wasnt sure if that would work or not….

Now that I do…. runs off to clothes shop

mage.3570:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

“Alts are useless [because I can no longer use them to get extra shinies for something I’ve already done]!”

You know, oddly…I don’t have this issue. Oh don’t get me wrong, I did this exact thing in GW1. You get a lot of lunar fortunes when you can rerun the event quests on 44 different characters. Netted me 8-10 celestial minis each year….and they sold nicely later on. However, I can probably see that this was never really anets intent for the content. In a sense it was an exploit that they allowed because there really wasn’t a way around it. They are fixing some of that issue here. Leveling the playing field a bit between the people that make so many alts, and people that don’t (for any number of reasons). Just because you have more alts doesn’t mean that you should be able to make gold hand over fist faster than someone else by exploiting the ability to do something easy but lucrative repeatedly. Its wrong, and as someone who has done it, I know it’s wrong.

Consider this:

As an experienced trader, suppose I find a lucrative item on the TP. I buy and sell vast quantities of this item in a controlled fashion repeatedly because I have much more gold (or time, or perhaps both) than someone who just started the game. By your logic, this must be wrong! I must not make more money than someone who is inexperienced because the GW2 philosophy is to level the playing field for all!

The TP is a completely different animal and topic though. Having multiple characters isnt going to do darn thing for you when it comes to the TP. Buying and selling on the TP is like playing the stock market, some people can do it, some people cant. It has nothing to do with how many characters you have, and having more characters does not give you a distinct advantage.

Someone with a single character can do exactly what you are doing and end up rolling in gold. On the other hand, a person with a single character couldnt repeatedly run CoF p1 and keep getting the unique reward at the end bc they had no other character to swap to. Completely different things.

TooBz.3065:

Any people who do shouldn’t be hobbled because they do. We’ve discussed this before and I know we disagree and will, frankly, never reach common ground so I’m hesitant to even start… but…

Why is having 1 character the default that everything is measured against? As if that is in some way the proper way to play. Didn’t ANet give us 5 character slots? Doesn’t that suggest that the “correct” way to play the game is with 5 characters?

I would disagree that you are being ‘hobbled.’ Simply by playing more characters you are going to make more money, have more stuff, etc. Like I said, there is a difference between ‘playing’ multiple characters, and only having them in order to exploit an easy money maker. I think anet is simply trying to curb a little bit of the latter. This makes having alts more meaningful because they become more than just $$ to people.

Of course, just because we are given 5 slots does not necessarily mean that they have to all be used either. Its a personal choice.

ilr.9675:

It’s not the Stats or the the “players” that are broken, it’s the Content itself.

Vol.5241:

I take it you joined a zerker group.

Well given that they’re quickly becoming the only groups left….

…yes process of elimination does work that way (especially when Anet openly penalizes the Mechanics of everything else that isn’t Zerker)

Oh no, it is very much the player base that is broken. The general intolerance of anything except what is perfectly optimal is the issue.

sirflamesword.3896:

Why hasn’t this come up more often during this discussion? The only argument most people have against alts is that the people with them get more rewards and are therefore greedy. I think the people without alts are lazy and should stop whining and make a 2nd or 3rd character if they want the same rewards as people who put 2-3+ times more work into the game.

Just by playing multiple characters you’ll make more than someone that doesnt. However, there is a difference between making more for playing more (which is simply going to happen due to the time investment of multiple characters), and making more because you can exploit a lucrative quick and easy ‘event’ across many characters.

There are many reasons people don’t make alts, and they really shouldnt be forced to if they don’t want to.

“Alts are useless [because I can no longer use them to get extra shinies for something I’ve already done]!”

You know, oddly…I don’t have this issue. Oh don’t get me wrong, I did this exact thing in GW1. You get a lot of lunar fortunes when you can rerun the event quests on 44 different characters. Netted me 8-10 celestial minis each year….and they sold nicely later on. However, I can probably see that this was never really anets intent for the content. In a sense it was an exploit that they allowed because there really wasn’t a way around it. They are fixing some of that issue here. Leveling the playing field a bit between the people that make so many alts, and people that don’t (for any number of reasons). Just because you have more alts doesn’t mean that you should be able to make gold hand over fist faster than someone else by exploiting the ability to do something easy but lucrative repeatedly. Its wrong, and as someone who has done it, I know it’s wrong.

cesmode.4257:

Solution.. Remove zerker gear from the game. And Im serious too. You’ll start to see every other build flourish, more diversity, no more elitism, groups accepting everyone, and more group harmony.

This will make a lot of people angry and drive them to quit the game possibly, but Im dead serious.

Generally we dont agree, but I could go with this. Or just reducing the stats a bit, to bring it more in line with other armors. This way it isnt ‘the most optimal, must have uber power trip’ armor. Cause lets face it, thats all it is – hulk smash > intelligence.

Keep in mind that they may be doing some data gathering with this initial implementation. Based on metrics, these values will likely be adjusted over time.

Ah yes…..

the ‘go zerker or gtfo’ mentality

or the ‘if you dont use zerker you’re just bad’ mentality

or the ‘ur gimping urself if you use anything else’ mentality

or the ‘must be completely efficient and optimal’ mentality

or the ‘must treat the game likes its a job’ mentality

not why I play. last time i checked, i didnt bother you people, and you left me the heck alone. problem solved. carry on.

Edit: Oh and btw….the speed clear time difference between all zerker and not, is generally less than 5 minutes, depending on the path and team. Big whoop…

I opted to buy char slots so I could have 1 of each profession. To me, each plays differently, and I enjoy experiencing them all. Beyond that, I will buy additional slots to have duplicates of my favorites in the other races so I can experience the other story lines. But, this is just me though.

I like the wallet, and I dont mind the bank deposit being gone. My husband and our friend Ami likes it as well.

Martin has stated that if you would like to have your own means of depositing gold, they suggest making a personal guild and buying the vault. (Had a whole thread on it prior to release)