Guild Wars 2

AlphaK.9486:

The trait was removed because it broke the skill queue pretty much any time a skill was used and they currently don’t have a fix for that so they decided to scrap the trait.

Oh that’s too bad. I really liked it.

Enrif.7359:

traits got reworked

Obviously, but why was that removed I wonder? I found it a fairly neat feature. Guess it was considered OP when combined with the other healing.

Also, could we at least change the first sword attack animation to a normal swing like the other classes?

What happened to the healing orbs that surrounded you and came from one of the Invocation traits? You’d get an orb every time you used an energy skill and once you switched legends the orbs would heal you.

That was a very fun and useful trait, but I’m not seeing it anymore.

I’ve also noticed that Sword #2 animation messes up a bit while you use it during movement. It works fine if you stand still.

Sword #2 sure does look freaking sweet though, doesn’t it!? LOL, I’m actually going to end up using it just for the anims on it!

Just wanted to drop in some positive feed back:

Overall, I’m absolutely loving Revenant and can’t wait to main it!

Just make the Sword AA chain a bit nicer looking and I’ll be a happy camper.

Somewhat related, on Ventair’s Legend, I’m not seeing the gauntlet glows like the other Legends get.

I really feel that Sword off hand #4 could use an active if you want to use it instead of a block, similar to Mesmer offhand sword #4. Maybe it could chill for a few seconds instead of immobilize from the successful block.

The Sword AA chain needs some help with the animations and overall feel. As a Charr, I honestly didn’t like the AA anims for it at all.

That being said, the other skill animations are quite awesome and very nice looking!

I think he sounds great.

/shrug.

skowcia.8257:

Sagat.3285:

skowcia.8257:

Phase traveler doesnt work outside of a range… Is it for real?

Didn’t a patch made that for all teleports?

No. I can teleport with ji out of range. It sux really

Please report PT as a bug then skowcia. It might be bugged out right now and needs to be fixed.

Steel Courage.1250:

HoT beta is coming this weekend, that only means HoT release is coming soon……

Im very excited to finish my legendary with the new precursor crafting.

Please Share what you are excited about in the upcoming EXPANSION!

Revenant… All the way!

Yeah, I’m a bit worried about condi removal myself.

600 is barely even range imo. 900 is where real range even begins.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Rich Fuel.7253:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Where is the ‘Colin Hype Train’ option?

Not this time Roy. Now it’s the ‘Roy Hype Train’!

CHOO CHOOOOO!!!!!

CHOO CHOOOOO!!!!!

o.0

Choo Choo

No no, you gotta do it right. All CAPs, 3 extra O’s on the second Choo, followed by several explanation marks.

Nice one Kidel!

Kodiak.3281:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

I quoted Roy….. It’s his words, not mine. LOL! How is that nitpicking semantics? His point was pretty plain.

It’s pretty obvious there’s a packaged synergy there for each line. You’re nit picking semantics because when we’re pointing out those packaged combinations you’re saying it’s wrong because technically you don’t have to follow them. Which, okay, sure but that doesn’t mean they’re any less packaged even if you choose to be different.

Please point out which ones are supposed to be packaged with synergy.

Malchior.1928:

I’m not trying to offend xD While yes, weapons are not “tied” to specific legends, the synergy between them is so great that it leaves a lot to be desired when you legend swap to your second legend while only having a weapon set which synergies with the first one.

Oh, I didn’t take offense m8. Sorry if I came off that way.

Regardless, I still don’t see where this synergy is so great though. The one exception I can see this is with Mallyx and Mace/Axe, but I always looked at Mallyx as a response to taking conditions, and not necessarily in giving them out. The idea behind him was that you get stronger the more condi’s you take, not get stronger the more condi’s you put out.

Kidel.2057:

Also you are supposed to legendswap pretty often and to get energy.

I know this is probably just a matter of opinion, but I’m not sure I quite agree with this. I feel like the idea is to only swap Legends when needed, or wanted. If it was supposed to swap often, don’t you think it’d be more like elementalist attunement?

I mean, I understand wanting to swap for energy gain, but the traits don’t really encourage frequent legend swapping, with the exception of the stun break, but even that’s situational when you get stunned.

Malchior.1928:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Kodiak.3281:

Quarktastic.1027:

With weapons tailored to specific legends,

This pretty much summed it up. Revenant right now is a very packaged character. If you take Sword/Sword, you’re intended to also take the Shrio Legend and also intended to take the Shiro Line.

Both of you have it wrong:
“By no means are weapons tied to a specific legend.”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Misconception-Legends-Weapons/first#post5324362

It’s not required but synergy-wise it’s almost a necessity. I think you are just nitpicking semantics at this point.

O.o

I quoted Roy….. It’s his words, not mine. LOL! How is that nitpicking semantics? His point was pretty plain.

Recursivision.2367:

Eight Samurai.6840:

I sort of like OP’s idea. I think it would get boring to only use GW1 characters, when there are many memorable post GW1 and GW2 characters who are in the mists already who could work as future elite specializations. Just imagine invoking the power of Scarlet or that giant titan or even Zhaitan.

Next elite legend: Tybalt

One of his utiltiy skills is Throw Apple, which blinds your target.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Where is the ‘Colin Hype Train’ option?

Not this time Roy. Now it’s the ‘Roy Hype Train’!

CHOO CHOOOOO!!!!!

Kodiak.3281:

Quarktastic.1027:

With weapons tailored to specific legends,

This pretty much summed it up. Revenant right now is a very packaged character. If you take Sword/Sword, you’re intended to also take the Shrio Legend and also intended to take the Shiro Line.

Both of you have it wrong:
“By no means are weapons tied to a specific legend.”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Misconception-Legends-Weapons/first#post5324362

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Mine will probably be human.

You can still be in my Warband Roy, despite the choice.

Voted yes, and am super hyped up for it! Still working on my equipment for him though, and I’m holding off on selecting his stats yets.

@skowcia, I disagree with most of what you said, but hey, it’s your opinion, right?

Zelulose.8695:

Without weapon swap revenant will lack defense or offence …

Wha??

Kidel.2057:

Kotte.2460:

REVS ARE NOT GETTING WEAPON SWAP

That sure is funny now

Stop the necro posting plz.

Kidel.2057:

Going to test free exotic first, then I’ll decide stats accordingly. Probably full zerk however (very original). In the beta at least.

For after HoT it’s not a big deal since I can swap stats.

Yeah, I’m a big power user myself, both for PvE and WvW. I guess it’ll depend on what the base stats will be too. I know the HP is going to be the mid level, but what were the other stats going to be?

Dagger ranged! Along with condi’s on it.

Kidel.2057:

I have a full ascended set in my back, sitting there since the announcement.
Also all skins already unlocked.

Have you already decided on the stats? I’m still trying to make up my mind about that. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor, one which is just sitting there. I’m probably going to use the formula to switch the stats once I figure out what I’m going with.

Perhaps just adding more ways to increasing energy generation might be the way to go. Perhaps traits or adding it to more skills other than AA.

No CDs please on any of the skills, including weapon skills.

That’s the way I took it. BWE2 is just to polish the works based on BWE1. I don’t see much reason for more than that.

I think we’re going to see a whole truck load and a half full of info at GamesCom, including a projected release date.

EDITED: Thx Donari.
/em SheepishGrin.

It’s been stated that Rev’s will have the same beginning storyline as the rest of the other classes. Nothing new or changed.

What to borrow some of my italian dressing?

Kidel.2057:

Eight Samurai.6840:

cut.

Don’t worry, they won’t listen to them (also because there would be >9000 asking for weaponswap again, as they already did)

Source?

Zev.3407:

I really can’t fathom why people wouldn’t want weapon swap, i’m honestly baffled.

I mean if you really dont want to use weapon swap, don’t use it. But for the class to feel viable and not repetitive, while also being able to have the option of both melee and ranged at the same time, we NEED weapon swap.

@Lonewolf kai, we already played without weapon swap and the majority of people said that Rev needs it, thats why the view of weapon swap being good is validated.

But the OP is right, lets just test rev with it before arguing if it’s a good decision or not.

I’m not really sure why you are @’ing me. I’m not arguing for or against weapon swapping. I just pointed out that claiming a person’s opinion as wrong is just …well… wrong.

Personally, I’m actually for keeping weapon swap.

I also think that weapon skills shouldn’t have cooldowns if they have energy cost attached to them. Weapon skills and Utility skills should only cost energy.

Xenon.4537:

Roy Cronacher.1576:

By no means are weapons tied to a specific legend. Revenant weapons are usually themed in feel and playstyle with a legend to create a comprehensive package if you want to play a certain way, such as sword, shiro, and the devastation line for physical damage. But that doesn’t mean that they aren’t meant to be mixed and matched as well to create unique and interesting builds. There are a lot of really cool builds you can make by trying out different combinations.

Could you provide examples? Because let’s say I wanted to do a condi build… Mace/Axe + Mallyx. Um… What else? None of the other legends really benefit condi, and the weapons are even less useful to such a build. Is Revenant simply not meant to be a condi class? If so why did you even bother to develop Mallyx as such?

I’m under the impression that Mallyx Legend is more about taking condis from your target and then punishing them for giving you said condis by copying them back.

lol, what makes their views any less validated than those that support weapon swap?

iGuarDiaN.1925:

Is it not similar to a ranger running greatsword and longbow?

If someone is in melee and you’re stuck in longbow, you aren’t doing as much damage. Ya, they have a couple of skills to combat that, IE their 3/4, but you’re still doing less damage. You can run shiro with hammer and utilize the stun/life steal.

I guess what I’m trying to say when I say fluid is to make it streamlined in regards to their mechanic.

And if you compare the “beta” rev to the rev it is now, it is still in beta. It’s subject to change, but I agree that the adding the swap makes it very different from what it was.

No, it is not the same thing. What would be the same thing is that the very same Ranger while using GS uses Healing as One, or their Signet of Stone, or Lightening Reflexes, but doing this also causes weapon swap to Longbow.

Also, the class mechanic is to switch Legends and their associated Utility, Heal, and Elite skills. Weapon swap is not a class mechanic.

iGuarDiaN.1925:

I used my heal while using my swords and in Shiro, I swap to my hammer which switches me to Jalis, now I have my heal up with my hammer.

And what happens when your opponent is in your face with melee? You’re stuck with a weapon that’s not meant to be melee and in fact has even less damage because the target is up closer, past the optimal range.

no, more power creep isn’t needed.

Instead of anti-thief, I was hoping we’d share some stealth mechanics, ala Utility skills or something.

I stated Energy cost only. I’m not sure why they would need a CD honestly.

Genesis.8572:

Something else worth speculating. Let’s take the assumption that the Glint e-spec will get a shield as datamined. Shield is obviously an off-hand weapon. But what will the shield be paired with? There are only two options: sword or mace.

Not sure I understand what you’re actually getting at. Are you suggesting another weapon to be introduced along with the shield?

thewaterguy.4796:

Yeah it’s the same problem for me… It’s really killing me at this point it’s not even a fun “I can’t wait” sort of feeling its more of a “Well I guess their is no point in playing the game until I can play Rev” kind of feeling… And yes, I already have done any reasonable preparation, I have a build all thought out and fine tuned as well as a full ascended set of armor in my bank… sigh I could say that feeling applies to about anything to do with HoT at this point, the wait is much more annoying or even infuriating at this point as opposed to being fun, though waiting on Rev is easily the worst

I’m at the same point too. I just can’t look at my other toons anymore. I play now to build up my future Rev., farming gold for skins, getting those missing Tomes, etc., etc.

There’s some nice background stories in here.

thewaterguy.4796:

Charr, always been my favorite race

HooRah!

Yeah, I would’ve loved to see floating daggers too. They could have based it on miniature Ceremonial Scimitars (the swords used for the Shiro intro on Roy’s toon).

“They see me trollin’. Day hate it. They patrollin’. Trying to catch me riding trolly. Trying to catch me riding trolly.”

Seriously guys, this thread smells heavily of troll dung. Stop feeding him.