Guild Wars 2

Malchior.5732:

MadVisions.4529:

Malchior.5732:

MadVisions.4529:

to leave the ppl complayining about rev damage I’d say a 8s cooldown change is reasonable.

I’m so glad you’re not balancing the Revenant.

https://youtu.be/bM4V5xDoqho
totally fine! i mean didnt even loose 50% hp from a 4sec cd skill. not to mention the instant staff5 && hydro leeching. totally fine too.
i’m a horrible revenant. i got 0 matches on it ~10 rounds of 1v1 and some vale guardian kills (Kappa). still meenaged to kill my expert revenant mate several times gue to how broken and skilless this kitten is.

sigh
Your suggestion is awful because you take a skill that’s riddled with issues and bugs, fix none of them, and then ask for a 100% cooldown increase on a weapon that also uses Energy as a resource and then provide 0 compensation for the big DPS nerf (especially in PvE).

How about instead, we make the skill more reliable? Then we lower the burst output on single targets, but not make the skill so random in bigger fights?
It’s like Alekt suggesting that Jade Wings should also have a 45 second cooldown.

The problem is people who clearly don’t understand the class suggesting changes that would be fine for a different profession, but are in direct opposition to what the Revenant was supposed to be (a class with powerful skills balanced around Energy).

Burtnik organized a big list of suggestions in the Revenant forum that handle issues like this MUCH better and improve the overall health of the class.

WOW!
this skill being not relyable is hilarious. knowing it’s sidestepable at max range and deciding to still cast it is your fault. I can’t really sympathize with ppl casting it in kittenef situations and complayning about it while having access to shiros positioning && mobility… (here is a link to a vid that explayns behaviour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9bCVXyqR5g)
someone posted here that it hits the door2x and 1x the man you want if you are next to it…. GJ man now you know that mby you should cast it 2secs later when you are in a better position, but you know who the fucx cares about timing one of the biggest single target burst ability when it has 4 sec CD. LMAO. It almost isnt worth to stow weapon.

Torafugu.1087:

A dev claimed the game isn’t balanced for duels, but nor is it balanced for anything else, so let’s have duels.

This made me giggle

I dont find this idea needed to be implemented, becouse you can whisp some buddys for 1v1s áll the time. Or visit angz or some other open 1v1 server.

Malchior.5732:

MadVisions.4529:

to leave the ppl complayining about rev damage I’d say a 8s cooldown change is reasonable.

I’m so glad you’re not balancing the Revenant.

https://youtu.be/bM4V5xDoqho
totally fine! i mean didnt even loose 50% hp from a 4sec cd skill. not to mention the instant staff5 && hydro leeching. totally fine too.
i’m a horrible revenant. i got 0 matches on it ~10 rounds of 1v1 and some vale guardian kills (Kappa). still meenaged to kill my expert revenant mate several times gue to how broken and skilless this kitten is.

‘/cl’ || ‘/clear’ to empty your chat window

simple as that! yo you dont have to read goldsellers and toxic ppl all day
sometimes i’m not in mode to read how much cancer cells my mom should get for the next 5 minutes.

They said at some point that aura changes are going to be an option. So y +1

I’d even Revert the unblockable effect. This skill is over decent. Paired up with steal shadowstep etc. It becomes an instant heard cc.

claytonmorby.3751:

Yes GW2 has several low cd skills that could be called “spam able” but they are low impact that add up in combination with each other. Skills like search and reduce, chilled to the bone, slick shoes, wash the pain away are all very high impact skills that can turn the tide of the fight.

Stuff like corrupt boon, inpacting disruption, gunflame, auraspam or Precision strike got low inpact indeed

working on the high dependency of landed steals due to mandatory trickery and mug would indeed allow more diversity.
I would not recomment to do so in the near future though, the pryority should be on this:

Nerf rev/scrapper

btw if ure there you can rework yey for an eye too

XxsdgxX.8109:

New things like classes/weapons in any online game ALWAYS get hate and mostly, because it’s obvious, from bad players who won’t even try to learn new things.

wow i’m offended by a noname too bad no hard feelings.

also i wouldnt call a ~half year old class ‘new’

Themistokles.1238:

I dont say that Rev is balanced in general. I just say that its not allways a good idea to ask for nerfs. What is the point in bringing Rev down to a Warriors power? What will happen to the Meta? You can nerf Rev down. So maybe thiefs will take the spot. Then you have no Heavy Class that is good in higher game.
I think that the sustain from a full DPS Rev is to high. But the Damage can be countered.

a clacc with access to defensive boons with this variety and the endless count of evades wont ever get to warrior level.

this specific skill is beyond bad design and has to be changed.

to leave the ppl complayining about rev damage I’d say a 8s cooldown change is reasonable.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Precision_Strike

worth a hotfix.

AAAW.. poor Yinfay
that’s what you get when you mess with top thief eu though!

you people just played unranked from January 25, 2016 to February 23, 2016 and you have already forgotten about it. your memory seems to be incredebly short: https://youtu.be/pcY0fuA9COM

After of a whole month of playing unranked w/o any complaynment about the matchmaking you grab the neck of the new competitive system any try to choke it to death in the first week.
Have you tryed to play unranked this season or you are just going to fail-tryhard a bit more and complayn about not being ranked up way faster than exponentially better players than you on the league system?! This mindset smells of avidity.
Coming up with ‘no more fun’, ‘loosing too much i quit’, ‘i was ruby last season’, ‘there is no more match balance’ are failed and/or irrelevant arguments, used by many forumers. Players who use these fail to see that the gamemode they used for nearly a month is still there, ready to use w/o harmful modifications for theyr game experience (fun factor not touched).
The before grind based sytems are finally uprooted and the MM has become competition focused. This means things have changed and ppl getting mediocre rankings last seson, should reconsider if they where worthy for theyr medals.
Sticking to ranked till you end up with a 10+ losing streak is completely (and i use this word seriously) stupid. People doing this should think about if playing the most competitive part of the game, in the season starting time which is obviously the hardest, for fun and failing so humiliatingly is worth, when you could hopp into the usual unrankeds and have actual FUN you came for.

For the people who want to overanxious massive tryhard regardless what i say w/o any mechanical skills, nor being master at a profession at the start of a competitive season i wish good luck and a strokeless next week, ’couse you gonna have close moments.

babazhook.6805:

I had already mentioned UC was much better

UC, Physical Supremacy and Endurance Thief paired up are better than the whole acro line all together.
Too bad devs had zero creativity in designing Dare Devil but butchering acro in last juni, then reselling a version of the previous one.
I remember i gave tonns of constrictive feedback on that juni-time turning out completely right later but you know, who the kitten listens to competent ppl these days…

Azukas.1426:

Not defending this trait or anything, but I have to say someone using it literally has no condi clears.

watch video above your post.

Azukas.1426:

What class are you playing that you are failing against thieves 1v1?

Little does this matter. To answer you, i play necro, ele but mainly thief. This trait being highly flawed by promoting dependency on predicting tremendous amount of instants being casted and carrying terrible players wont change no matter what you play. And that’s what i’m rallying against my good Sir!

Shinobi.3240:

Flanking strike has an activation time of 1/2 second and an evade duration of 1/2 second as far as i know.

What you experienced happens maybe 1 out of 100 times. He just got lucky or predicted really well what you are going to do.

Its like interupting the engie turret heal. Happens!

Best regards!

Shino

“activation time of 1/2 second” what is this based on?
i mean i might completely lack on information, but skill activation should only be affected by aftercast as faar as i know.

thx for constructive comment though!

babazhook.6805:

I do more damage with shadowstrike then with headshot

re read my post && watch video again. HS is ~instant, shadow shot is evadeable.

babazhook.6805:

If I am on P/P I would much rather use an Unload then a headshot as I will do far more damage. the damage is not tied to an interrupt proc.

who facetanks a whole unload with thief?? or who uses p/p? i mean… the animation is longer than the Amazonas. Never thought about using it is already flawefull due to being the easyest target for interrupts? XDDDD how bad this is?!?!? really….

the rest of your comment is targetting completely new players to the gamae, pls spare your words.

cosmicegg.8502:

Your speaking out of both sides of your mouth defending a system that’s supposed to have skill as the sole determinate yet makes it faster for pvp players with the highest mmr from a terribly flawed last season to climb faster. Each match is like a race to the top of a pit with one team getting a rope and the other given nothing but there hands to climb the wall.

you clearly have no clue about how ruby matches at this moment look like. i mean at the top 20% the matches are already entertaining so your “Each match is like a race to the top of a pit with one team getting a rope and the other given nothing” argument is invalid.

alchemyst.2165:

You sacrifice very important condi removal, however. Just fight a condi ele or necro

???
don’t really see the point here. the trait is broken vs necros and condi ele is not a thing not sure what you are talking about.
vid: https://youtu.be/d9q4qWQjZIw

why would i move along a badly designed addition that ruins the skill factor or the game? Also it’s ZERO fun to me to fight ppl running this. Actually it’s more fun to fight perplex condi engis in wvw than dueling a d/p running this aids.

just uploaded 2vids that show flanking strike being randomly rupted at the start where it should have evasion frames. Shows how bad i am by not predicting all the instant rupts spammed at me so being totally shlt @ the game and how much better the opponent is.

#1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYQCBb2QmM&feature=youtu.be
#2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl2lKaKUmqg&feature=youtu.be

InsidiousWaffle.7086:

you just just necro’d

this part made me lagh for no reason :’D

Sourde Noire.5286:

And what exactly is the bug supposed to be?

the first part of the flanking strike ability is an evade. As you see here a randomly timed interrupt can still cancel it regardless, making you vulnerable for the next second + proccing impacting disruption. basicly if this happens duel is lost.
no idea if this happens due to server lag or it’s a bug but needs to look at.

PS: updated first post with second video

had a good giggle on the video! good job! liked the music too

Mr Godlike.6098:

Right now I maybe have 1 win per 3-5 matches.

It’s not fun to non-stop lose…
It’s not fun to play unfair matches if you had 55% win ratio in previous season.
It’s not fun to hear that you have to keep losing until your mmr or matchmaking will be balanced.

Game has no point of playing or buying if it don’t give any type of fun or satisfaction for your effort.

For now as casual i can say that playing ranked is waste of time and a lot players will say the same. I love pvp but many ppl will just quit.

I am really Astonished. really…. i’ve read dozens of post like this at this point. and i feel really sorry and bad for seeing players actually quit becouse of a system i’ve beed waiting since long long time.
I am just screaching my head atm…. what to say to stay constructive, help and meanwhyle dont hurt anyones feelings.

so. Back in time when i started pvp i havnt even touched ranked for a long time. i was thinking like: hmm ranked.. ranked means competition in every game and obviously i can feel i’m a beginner so lets get better and mby then i can show off some ranks later. Imo i’ve hit the 1k unrankeds way before i even started to think about ranked.

The thing is that the newly implemented MM algorythm NO LONGER supports grinding based progression like the previous ones. This means that progression is enchanced by the skill level of an individual and not the bare will to progress. League system was implemented to indicate one’s mad haxor PvP skills with a tiny icon next to his/her name so everyone can see how big his E-PENlS is. Now, becouse the smurfing and abusing has been (mostly)fixed and the league is skill based, a mediocre random player can no longer have the same E-PENlS icon as an ESL player at least not as fast.
To get to the point. If someone is enduring a humilating 15lose streak or barely reaches 20% winning in this season should ask himself: “Am I prepared to play the most competitive part of the game? maybe not. Maybe wanting to be faster ranked up than way better players than me is a bit eager behaviour… Mby i should go practice a bit more so i can later suprise everyone with how good i am!”

Ohoni.6057:

for the two weeks leading up to ranked season, allow players to compete for placement in the actual league season, being placed in amber, emerald, or sapphire. This would prevent the majority of early-season stompings that happened this year, and it gives competitive pvpers something to do instead of hotjoins or unranked.

This would accomplish nothing, it would basically just be extending the season by two weeks.

???????????????????
i guess he means this should take place in the between seasons-time where ranked was disabled last time.
ppl who are lacking in skill gong to complayn though. i can’t really understand how can someone stand a humiliating 15 losing streak w/o thinking about " hmm. it seems i’m not good enough to compete in ranked, maybe i should practice some more in unranked before i give it a try again.". These issues are made up by people who clearly are new to pvp and want to progress right away even when it’s clear that the leaderboard is NO MORE supporting a badly designed GRIND BASED algorythm so they gonna face real opponents after season-start and not just a bunch of pve heroes.

stuff thats broken and eZ to play w/o major practice: Condi Reaper, Paladin Scrapper

stuff thats broken but harder to pull of if you havn’t touched the class yet: Power Herald, S&R s/d|staffDruid.

worth to mention: Dragon Hunter(eZ but got issues), Support Tempest(insane support in fights but low damage and you want stuff that kills people to carry.)

imo go Reaper, abuse 2xweapon swap && corrupt boon. noothing can go wrong.

- staff#3 said the necro.
- “oaaaeah” said the thief.
- double weapon swap said the necro.
- the thief fell to the ground and shouted: “Help Me!!!”.

yo Richard Marcinko.5132! imagine eating full zerk precision strike :O omnomnomnom 22k ggwp.

babazhook.6805:

And if it did more damage , such as that output by the PI as it currently does people would complain it being spammed.

Predicating more damage off a successful interrupt is much more a limitation on spam than is integrating that damage into the shot itself.

I am astonished. i mean… do you even read what i post here????
the two things are almost the same at this moment, wondering how you’re not realising alongside with many other ppl. i’ts not beneficial to spare rupts for combos anymore, you just spam interrupts in any posible scenario you can proc impacting disruption and you going to win the encounter. Hell it’s not even necessary to land a backstab or any reasonable damage combo. you just proc 2 timed or random rupts and it’s gg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWORQw_8EaI

TPMN.1483:

The question is how can we give constructive feedback

thats the biggest question since dinosaurs extincted ’couse ANet only likes to communicate with aliens.

Either way you haven’t got the slightest idea what i’m talking about or you are carryed by the trait and are defending it.
Impacting disruption just takes 50% of the skill from before skill based duels. This trait proccing hits more than shadow shot or frontStab critting and has no icd. Before you had to consider if you want to use initiative on interrupting something and have waited for that particular animation. now you just try to interrupt anything you can find with steal, venom or a nearly instant spammable ability to deal more damage than any of your actual wapon skills and completely fuxkc up your opponent’s rotation. interrupting skills and combos where already giving an advantage before HoT if you knew when and what to rupt. now you just HS into someone’s autohit and laugh on the 3k proc…..NOW thell me this is good design.

it happens sometimes. it could be called ‘ok its not that big of a deal’ but till you fix imparing disruption this buggy behaviour is going to give me a stroke all the time.

the actual thing: https://youtu.be/GyYQCBb2QmM

video #2: https://youtu.be/wl2lKaKUmqg

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

it has a long activation time and obvious animation,

learn to dodge / block / evade it.

this

Krysard.1364:

MadVisions.4529:

Krysard.1364:

MadVisions.4529:

on second thought on weapon swap instants could use a look at too.
Edit: i mean both sigils and traits

I dont feel like this is that much needed

sure… https://youtu.be/87nYgHkpijE

Revs have the same, and even if its instant you can predict when they’re going to weapon swap
EDIT: Also, your vid is an extremely situational and optimized scenario :p

y iknow i just dont play reve so demonstrated with necro.
ps: go predict it if you have any endurance left after you evaded 2 precision strikes unrelenting + mace 5, mace 3 etc.

Edit on your Edit: not really. i use 2xswap all the time i dont need shroud for tanking stuff. it demolishes people.

Krysard.1364:

MadVisions.4529:

on second thought on weapon swap instants could use a look at too.
Edit: i mean both sigils and traits

I dont feel like this is that much needed

r u sure?… https://youtu.be/87nYgHkpijE

imagine this like: u go shroud→ wait ~3sec → cast #3 → if weap swap is ready again recast #3 →exit shroud→weapswap→staff or scepter 3→corrupt boon.
usually stuff instadies to this if you cover condis afterwards.

on second thought on weapon swap instants could use a look at too.
Edit: i mean both sigils and traits

What abot removing instapoc’s from the game?
Game would be much healthyer and i wouldnt getting a stroke every half an hour from random kiddos with zero mechanical skills winning matchups due to instant cc and invuln procks.

hint: you could start with reworking nightmare runes, eye for an eye, enduring recovery and Self-Regulating Defenses.
Then, after you realise that this change was good and healthy you could follow with the rest like chill of death, panic strike, Defy pain, heavy light, last refuge, Desperate Decoy, and who knows what.

PS: for the ppl who going to cry a river about XYZ class needs that passive to succeed: find another path than relying on passive cheese kkthx.

ronpierce.2760:

The problem is: Scrapper and Herald are both a mess in terms of what should be changed and what is okay. I’m not sure there is a “simple” answer to them, which is why I think they haven’t been touched yet.

ohh sure! i can help there! start with:
Engi:
Recovery Matrix: reworked. posibly to an offensive trait.
Acid Bomb: no more unblockable
Shock Shield: Damage lowered by 60%
Elixir B: replace retal with 2sec of resistance(~3 with boon runes. opens more place vs condi builds to clense)

Reve:
Eye for an Eye: reworked. posibly not to another passsive PROC.
Precision strike: cooldown 8 sec.
Enduring recovery: reworked. posibly not to another passsive PROC. no longer gives endurrance.
remove unblockabrle effect from teleport.

i mean i agree with you. fully. i did not ask for a slughterfest on low players really. dont missunderstand me. this is just the best ANet could offer in terms of competitive ladder system. they could have given people with higher season#1 ranks or MMR or no matter what a headstart to make the first 2-3 days lest harsh or literally anything that smooths the gap between the playerbase(didnt meant to offend anyone lol):

MadVisions.4529:

if you are in amber and you lose 0-15 thats a big problem and indicates that you need more practice @the game and @the spec you are playing and you should do unrankeds for 3-4 days till better players climb so you have more chance to succeed.

+ another point of my comment was that this happening cound be and HAVE BEEN forseen. Thats why i wonder why people are surprised about all this.

Richard Marcinko.5132:

You’re all missing my point. I will be the first to admit that it was a good move and I plain missed it. I’m not running a full zerker build, I have 2450 armor which isn’t max but it isn’t paper either. My point is once a week a thief will come in and moan about how op necros are. When you’re hitting for 14k with a single hit you have nothing to complain about.

hmm so that thief had 25 stacks of might 25 bloodlust 10%dmg food&&utility and full zerker running d/d. You tell me you havnt seen him comming and you facetanked a backstab AND a c&d. reasonable.

Edit: you could have killd him with 1skill + deadly chill proc.

MadVisions.4529:

if you are playing s/d both are mandatory.

never mind this XD. run that broken shlt trait(Impacting Disruption) on s/d too noothing can go wrong. you have jump->sword#2^2 for condi cleanse :d.

???? this system is the competitive system we asked for, no idea why are ppl crying a river on forums about this particular addition. dont really know what the ‘0-15 lost gg anet’-people are ranked atm but the majority of the top players are #3+ already(where mm works as intended from my experience) so casuals getting matched with pros is really unlikely. if you are in amber and you lose 0-15 thats a big problem and indicates that you need more practice @the game and @the spec you are playing and you should do unrankeds for 3-4 days till better players climb so you have more chance to succeed.

Edit: this behaviour of the MM-system was predicted. things gonna settle naturally it’s just needs some time. after players spread out this mm gonna work wayyyy better than the previous one. WAY BETTER! basicly the case is that the ‘not-the-best’ part of the pvp community is suffering for the better future.

TreK.3794:

I see many thieves spamming Head Shot cause of this trait.

Kappa

HappyHour.6241:

I came to realize im too reliant on escapist absolution against condi players. Way too helpful. If im running this, is it redundant to use dash?

nah. if u run both thats completely fine, you just dropp the most broken trait of thief for it.
if you are playing s/d both are mandatory. Diversity starts when you run smth like d/p or s/p.

Zilvereen.2091:

you can use Rune of the Traveler for 25% movement speed. Kinda sux but its still a way for having both bound and %speed

do NOT do this.

Edit: if u decide to run bound you should run scholar or some other burst amulet.

try to port combo someone or venom jump someone or invis venom port jump someone(lol) and you gonna understand why ppl hate staff.

if you are running Impacting Disruption there is less need to bound ’couse your damage will be high enough. the swiftness on dash and the condi clense are needed almost every game. bound makes you more vulnerable for example vs druids and thieves becouse of theyr immob procks, vs necros becouse of chill etc….
if you are really worried about a good thief or mesmer rupting your stealth combo all the time you can take bound but mehh….

PS: you should take Impacting Disruption with any build with offhand pistol. It’s just broken…

vaxjani.9073:

Made a new video and updated the first post!

decent vid mate! keep the good work up! && thx for reference!

PS: jealous on your editing skills

1.5 done, many left! Keep going my loves.