Guild Wars 2

Everyone getting so worked up about dueling is hillarious ^^

Wait till after patch and Adrenaline drains on a miss. It’ll definitely help turn the matchup in your favor. ;3

Kjeldoran.3849:

This shows nothing… an elementalist can destroy all those turrets in few seconds with meteor shower, or a ranger with barrage, or every melee classes with cleaves and even those over pillars can be break down with few ranged skills and also remeber that these cant hit under the pillar so there are plenty of safe areas where to sit e destroy them 1 per 1

ps: oh i forget, a team like this would lose easily even against a pug party. Why? All those ppl to cap 1 point? ilarious. This makes gw2 a REAL eSport: you can play the way you like, you can do those… crazy screens but if you don’t really know how to use your class… well, there is nothing you can do

lol

Celestial is really good. Healing Power is really strong on an Elementalist.

Kraljevo.2801:

Neko.9021:

Heal As One is a really strong Heal, but it just takes so long to cast. Maybe reducing the cast time to 3/4ths would help.

I disagree with heal as one being a strong heal because of the reasons stated above. You don’t see any rangers in spvp and higher lvl tpvp running it, that has to mean something.

Erm, Heal As One heals a lot (6,520 with 1:1 Healing Power scaling on a 20 sec CD is very strong), but it has a long cast time. If you reduced the cast time to 3/4ths, it would probably become really good.

Heal As One is a really strong Heal, but it just takes so long to cast. Maybe reducing the cast time to 3/4ths would help.

Mass Invisibility affects 10 targets.

The fields will no longer stack on top of each other, so Burning Speed + LF will do less damage.

Harper.4173:

Neko.9021:

Harper.4173:

HeNnAz.8913:

Axelwarrior.9084:

They wouldn’t really be Fractal weapons if you could get them outside of Fractals

I meant, different ways through fractals. Like 20 pristine fractal relics or like 2k normal fractal relics, just a different way to get them other than JUST drops in fractals.

Make it 100 Pristine or 10k normal – the prestige has to remain.

There is no prestige in RNG or in the fractal skins in general. They simply look very nice. If fractal skins didn’t have such a noticeable and unique effect, no one would care about them.

To those of us that run FOTM it matters.

I run FOTM and it has no prestige to me.

Harper.4173:

HeNnAz.8913:

Axelwarrior.9084:

They wouldn’t really be Fractal weapons if you could get them outside of Fractals

I meant, different ways through fractals. Like 20 pristine fractal relics or like 2k normal fractal relics, just a different way to get them other than JUST drops in fractals.

Make it 100 Pristine or 10k normal – the prestige has to remain.

There is no prestige in RNG or in the fractal skins in general. They simply look very nice. If fractal skins didn’t have such a noticeable and unique effect, no one would care about them.

This sounds like a thinly veiled attempt to buff the strongest utility type Warriors have in PvP. >_>

This is a Celestial all-around build, but it’s still something you should consider, given that it’s how most ‘hardcore’ WvW raid guilds run their Eles: http://intothemists.com/guides/guide.php?id=107

Lightning Flash

The above posters are correct. Ele is very good in sPvP. Tier 1. S Class. Probably overpowered.

The Scepter Earth 1 ability is more or less worthless. As a blank skill on the set, it actually does need a buff.

They would be insanely OP if they were permanent. The Elementalist pets are very strong, and the Ele itself has access to a very large kit of skills. Keep in mind that the Water Ele heals for about 6.5k on its special ability. That’s equal to an outright heal on most classes. Unless you nerfed the Elementals, of course, but part of what makes them special is that when the Elementalist summons its pet, it really does have an impact (which will be far more noticeable when we can control the activated abilities).

Also, do we REALLY need more classes running around with petting zoos around them? Minion Master Necromancers and Spirit Rangers are already obnxious to look at and fight, and turret Engineers are pretty annoying too. I really don’t want to add Eles to that list.

For me, making a full set of Ascended Light Armor easily costed more than double what it costed to make Ascended Medium Armor. Shouldn’t Light class players have easier access to the mats they need to make the gear they need for the characters they spend time on?

lol

Good for you. No class is for everyone. Sometimes a simple class switch is all it takes to really enjoy this game.

This is also not really an Ele question, and should be posted in the dungeon subforum. Given that, just go on youtube and look up videos about it.

I don’t really have a favorite, but I greatly dislike HOTW and CM.

You could use Combat Mode and Fast Casting?

It looked like you did a whole lot of nothing and pretty little actual healing in that video. You’d be far more useful with Staff and laying down CC and water fields for your friends to blast into.

They should bump up the Protection to 5 seconds to make it in line with Elemental Attunement, at the very least. Then make it AoE. Then it’d be a decent trait.

If you’re doing large scale WvW, use Chemsorly’s Staff build: http://intothemists.com/guides/guide.php?id=107

BrunoBRS.5178:

pretty sure petrify > immob.

To be honest, I think Immob might actually be stronger >.>

The flanking requirement provides the only form of counterplay against this already terribly designed weapon. It outputs far too much damage and offers far too much mobility and utility as is, for very little effort.

I really hope they never remove the flanking requirement of this.

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Lettuce.2945:

Oh? What about 1 v X :P? But the point is…If someone beats the “all-star” players at their OWN professions with the SAME profession consistently…Doesn’t that mean that the player who won has better awareness of their own professions? Hmm? Hmmm?

And the other point is…This is mainly a BALANCE issue. If everything that was a suggested nerf by the OP was carried out…It would render the ele back to its laughable state.

If a person is really beating a bunch of people 1vX then the X must be terrible. It’s great for WvW youtube montages but it’s hardly something to be taken seriously as a match of equals.

Regardless, this is one of the things I really dislike about a lot of the community of this game. People have this obsession with engaging in 1v1s and trying to tier themselves over who is better than who, when that’s hardly what the game’s about. Yes, many good players will lose quite a bit in 1v1 duels, even against people who run the same class. But no, I do not believe that because someone that was watching Phantaram or Ostrich Eggs on twitch decided to go and challenge them to a duel and wins, that suddenly that player takes the crown of being the “better” player, especially when all supported formats of the game (PvE, WvW, and sPvP) all encourage team fighting and are about the ability to work with others.

I don’t really regard the ability of players to duel in 1v1 situations to be indicative of their skill, given that everything in the game (PvE, WvW, SPvP) is about your ability to team-fight well. If we accepted that 1v1 capability shows how good of a player you are, then PU Mesmers must be the best players in this game :P

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Neko.9021:

Dude, it’s a HUGE buff. It changes a ton for the Elementalist. We can actually use on-elite runes now, with these new activated elite abilities for Elemental pets.

That’s not how that works.

They trigger on the summon, not on the skill use. At least for necro that’s how it works.

The activated ability of Flesh Golem can trigger an on-elite-skill-rune proc. I tested this in the Mists.

Deniara Devious.3948:

I agree with Phantaram. The most obvious location for nerf would be
Drake’s Breath
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Drake%27s_Breath

That skill does really high damage considering its very low cool down. In WvWvW the condi duration foods allow it to pump out very long lasting burning.

I suggest either increase the cooldown to 10 seconds or reducing the direct damage by 33% and it should do only 4×2 s burns.

The combination of sigil of battle + strength or Hoelbrak runes is problematic for other professions as well. Engineer and warrior can also stack tons of might using them.

I think we should think about going and nerfing Drake’s Breath. The Ele has little access to offensive condition pressure outside of burning (and I guess Doom Sigil but whatever), and the ability to deal “hybrid” damage is supposed to be one of the core appeals of the Elementalist. I think knocking down Sigil of Battle to 2 stacks of Might would help tone down not only the Ele, but a lot of specs that abuse the sigil to run around with way too much Might at all times.

I think nerfing Battle Sigil would be the best option there, to be honest. It’s monstrously powerful and knocking it down to 2 stacks of Might would be a simple and easy fix, and help reduce the easy Might Stacking that goes on with the class.

Dude, it’s a HUGE buff. It changes a ton for the Elementalist. We can actually use on-elite runes now, with these new activated elite abilities for Elemental pets.

They didn’t nerf Vapor Form. It’s always been affected by unblockable CC (such as Line of Warding, Unsteady Ground, Static Cage). They simply updated its visual effect so that it’s more apparent that Vapor Form and Mist Form are two different skills (since Mist Form is NOT affected by unblockable CC).

The Ele is OP.

Yes, what Eles really needed was more ways to stack Protection and Regen. >.>

Kira Hotaru.7865:

The point was missed regarding my post and poor grammar or not, Scorpion understood what I was trying to get at. I will try and be more clear as it seems that anyone unknown to the forums will be assumed immediately as a complete noob.

In “my party” we have a warrior, thief, engineer and 2 ele’s, 1 being staff. We have fury up time, sufficient vulnerability and might. When engaging with a mob or champ it does not matter if the ele is running s/d, d/d or d/f as long as the group reach 25 might and the ele in mention is wielding a LH. If a dungeon fight out last 2 LH they obviously screwed up some where and should not be considered sc meta, no? My point I was trying to make to the guild I joined is that it is not about the weapons the conjure ele is wielding but whether they are running the right build and with LH in use @ 25 stacks of might, d/d, s/d or d,f become irrelevant. Yes, d/d might not have the highest might stacking (even though a single ele swopping weapons while stacking might can reach 25 might on their own) but with a thief, warrior and engi in the group, they can easily reach 25 might, vulnerability and fury up time. I did a dps test with members from IX last night regarding this. s/d at 25 might, d/d at 25 might, s/d holding LH at 25 might and d/d holding LH at 25 might. S/d and d/d both wielding LH did the same damge. As it is about the ele’s build and wielding LH and the rest of the group comp and not about s/d or d/d on it’s own. This was the point I tried to make to my guild and I was hoping someone else would confirm to this.

My comments about understandability wete directed @Scorpion Over Lord, not at you. :/

Anyway, you certainly could run double dagger Ele with a Lightning Hammer, sure. You could run whatever. But I still don’t see much point to it. Focus is still going to offer in many cases better utility if you’re worried about the utility of the offhand (Projectile Block, better blast finishing). Running MH Dagger with LH is fine if you’re worried about the DPS of your character if for some reason you can’t use LH, but scepter still offers better Might Stacking if you’re going to spend your time autoattacking with LH anyway.

The reason we rarely take Dagger Offhand with Dagger Mainhand is because Fire Staff and Lightning Hammer are simply higher damage.

Dagger Mainhand’s biggest upside is that you can take Focus for defensive purposes. If you’re going for high damage, then Lightning Hammer or Fire Staff is better. Furthermore, if you’re going with Lightning Hammer, you might as well use Scepter for the high might stacking capabilities it has. That’s why the really three good builds that have developed over the course of people analyzing the class and dungeons has been:
-Dagger paired with Focus for defensive skills and good average sustained DPS
-Scepter paired with Lightning Hammer for high might stacking and then the high autoattack daamge of Lightning Hammer
-Staff camping Fire for the highest damage

Mind you, in many situations and in PUGing, I think the Dagger with Focus will be the most reasonable choice.

Also, @Scorpion Over Lord, I can barely understand what you’re writing because of your constant use of ellipsis (“…”), incomplete sentences, and poor grammar. You’re clearly trying to imply something, and hoping it becomes apparent and obvious to us, but I’m afraid it’s not clear to me at all what you’re trying to say.

-Is it that because the OP is in an organized group, they can just use Dagger/Dagger because everyone else has already capped to 25 might? Because my point still stands that Dagger/Dagger really doesn’t really have as much of purpose compared to the other 3 sets I mentioned.
-Is it that the OP should use Lightning Hammer because of its higher autoattack damage (and blinds) in an organized group? While that might be true in some cases, other cases (perhaps let’s say, fractal 40+ runs), there still might be times where falling back to the more defensive Dagger/Focus build might be better, at least at first. Also, just based on what the OP wrote, it’s not clear to me that the guild the OP is in is really an organized dungeon guild, or just some casual players bringing whatever (or even a group of people who think they understand what the so-called “dungeon meta” is but really don’t, as I’ve seen in a lot of guilds; if the OP was in an actual speedrun guild, they probably should have been able to explain this all to the OP themselves, rather than the OP coming to the forums and asking us instead). That’s why I tried to present a lot of information, rather than a small snippet of it.
-Is it that the OP should just do whatever the heck they want, and not care about what we wrote? If that’s what you meant, I’m not entirely sure why you’re even posting on this thread then in the first place.

Also, for anyone interested, if you’re looking for the relative DPS numbers of the various specs for classes, there’s a wonderful calculator that shows this all for you, based on extensive testing done by some really good players:
http://gw2dps.david-reess.de/

I’ve always wanted to run 4 Cantrips on my utility bar <3

Here’s a great guide on PvP D/D Ele

Eles have 3 good specs for dungeons:

Dagger/Focus – PUGing, hard content, casual runs
Scepter + Lightning Hammer – Great burst and sustained damage, permanent blast finishers, best might stacking
Fire Staff – Best sustained damage in the game, permanent fire fields

Here’s a really great guide about PvE Ele

Prepare to get eaten by condis in PvP formats such as WvW.

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So let me get this straight, you guys had a set way the brackets would be seeded – some math magic about average top leaderboard rankings or whatever – and then based on the results of the ESL Weekly Cups, you decided to go ahead and just deviate from your original established system… just because?

Axebow

Your angst against Thieves is silly and absurd.

nearlight.3064:

Who is this Izzy you berate?

He is the Lead Designer for Guild Wars 2. Apparently in charge of designing the systems of the game, as well as balancing all the skills.

Pretty sure Ele is the best giver of AoE healing over time. Elemental Attunement + Soothing Wave is just super strong.

They’re changing the Thief’s Shortbow 4 to have an impact when it lands, causing it to reveal the Thief if it hits something on the initial landing.

If they secretly changed the Warrior’s combustive shot to be the same, and had it check to see if it hit anything on the initial impact, it could “miss” like other Burst skills.

The game has a built-in LFG that you can use. It’s inside your Contacts list interface. Everyone stopped using gw2lfg once the game got its own LFG.