Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
So tired of the ‘entitlement’ comments. It’s like I’m listening to faux news Republican propaganda machine.
Not nearly as tired as I am of listening to all of the endless bellyaching over the most minor of bullkitten.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
He could always roll an alt that could use it, Morrigan.
GW2 Forums…home of the “entitlement crowd”.
I had to work that day. No problemo…its just a game, right?
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
@ Cesmode
I played EQ2 for 4 years. A bunch of other games before that. I left because I had completed all the available content. Over and over.
GW2’s art style is refreshing and its all new. I’m more pragmatic in that I think a lot of the GW2 marketing (re: The Manifesto) was just hype to begin with. So if they aren’t exactly hewing to their marketing claims…its no biggie to me. Doesn’t really change the game for my style of play.
I figure I can play here for several years easily on just the content available now. Not even taking into consideration what might be coming up.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Aye Sylosi thats why half of our guilds starts a new chaptor in Planetside 2 tomorow.
We werent sure before this, but anet made our choice real easy for us to bail out to the next mmo.To many or better said way to less love from Anet for WvW.
To little to late now, no matter how many promises are going to be made, they broke 1 major promise and that brothers and sisters made all the diffrence.
Bullkitten….half your guys would have left anyway just because there is a shiny, new F2P game up for grabs. A lot of GW2’ers will probably leave to go play Planetside. Its just the nature of online gaming these days.
But, guess what? You already purchased GW2 for the equivalent of 4.3 months of subscription.. You can come and go as you please. Its part of their business model.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
In any 3 way match, there is always a chance of someone becoming a temporary ally to take down a common foe. Before turning on ya and cuttin your throat if it gains them an edge.
What goes around come around. ((shrug))
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
If your not WvWing because of these two things, your not much of a WvWer in the first place.
LOL…just started to post something along the same lines when I looked up.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Why does anyone think that 14.7% changes anything. Its just an investment in Nexxon’s Portfolio…not a controlling interest.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Turtleofpower: You are stating that arenanet is some sort of awsome honest company. Are you aware that they have gone back on their manifesto, their principles of what guildwars 2 should be…are you aware WHY people are frustrated and leaving the game?
People bought GW2 for a few reasons:
-Played GW1
-No Gear Treadmill
-Awsome PVP
-PVE experience that rewards you with aesthetics, rather than statistics
-All contant is available to you at any time, provided you are of level(and in some cases, even when you are not of level).
-Dynamic worldAt least three of these reasons were destroyed. People are upset. Its understandable. I am too. The people rushing to the game’s defense cannot diagnose us with a severe case of freaking out. There are way too many people with that diagnosis then.
Thats a huge assumption on your part. None of your reasons for purchasing this game applies to me. I bought this game because it looked cool and I was tired of the game I was playing.
All games have a huge influx of customers when the game rolls out…and all games have a regualr outflow of customers as people realize that the game isn’t providing them with what they thought they were getting.
People come, people go…
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
There are no “Raids” in GW2.
But we seem to be unable to leave that mindset behind.
Not yet
I’m betting there will be within the next year or so, especially if a certain MMO that seems to be copying a lot of the good GW2 innovations announces that it will have raids.
Also, why not? They’re forcing people into dungeons for gear. Only dungeon runners are going to be happy about that, and dungeon runners and raiders are closely related on the MMO family tree.
No one is forcing anyone into anything. The choice to play in any fashion resides purely with the individual. There is no “grind” in this game unless you choose to play it that way.
After over 700 hrs of play time…I have at most 35% map completion on any one character. And I’ve run a total of 2 dungeons…and then only because a Guildie wanted some help.
I can step into GW2 on any alt and just….go play…not grind. Really, I think I’m the type of player GW2 had in mind when they were designing the game. What they didn’t foresee was the influx of raiders and content locusts. So, perhaps that was shortsighted on their part.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
There are no “Raids” in GW2.
But we seem to be unable to leave that mindset behind.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
My greatsword clips out half the hilt when on my toons back. Does this on any style of greatsword.
So, I switched to a Hammer and fixed it, lol.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Forget about LFG….find a good guild with good people to run with. People who understand that its just a game and could give a fat rats kitten about whether you’re uber geared or not.
So, it takes a while to find that group of people? So what….you’re not paying a sub, right?
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
There is a huge segment of gamers who have turned their game into a job. They’ve lost ability to just goof around and have a good time.
Gimmeee gear, gimmeee loot….gimme progression to even better gear n’ loot.
Its all just pixels peeps. Nothing you accomplish in this game or any other is worth spit in real life.
You might as well enjoy the ride. But, man…some of you just seem so miserably unhappy over a silly game mechanic.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Cause we’re tired of them. Thankfully ANet seems to realize this.
Just go…
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
I don’t understand all of the anger towards Anet at the minute.
This is an MMORPG. RPG games, since the dawn of time, have been about stats and vertical progression.
Anet has, from what I understand, introduced 1 end game tier dungeon, and items needed to progress in this dungeon, and everyone is acting like this is the death of the game.
Am I missing something? Surely you can choose not to do this dungeon? It is specifically aimed at those who want to grind, which is what the other 50% of the fanbase has been moaning about since launch.
This is meant to appease them, not alienate you. Why is this such a bad thing? I honestly don’t understand…
I don’t get it either. Everything is sooo…dramatic, for lack of a better word. Its a computer game. Not the end of the world.
Don’t like Ascended gear…then don’t use it. There are 80 levels of content & 8 professions to explore. There is PvP, WvW, RP, personal story…and just having fun with friends.
I don’t care for dungeons, but the fact that there a lot of dungeons in this game doesn’t make me unhappy or want to quit. I just don’t include them in my play.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Charr Warrior….just wanted one. If any race epitomizes the warrior, its the Charr.
Course, I’d really like a honkin big 2H axe. That would complete the image.
Gurgle Bloodspit takes a bow!
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
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Guardian….I guess I just like the ability to support those around me, do some healing, wear heavy armor and use a 2H. Reminds me of my paladin in another game.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Doesn’t really apply to my style of gaming. With 8 alts, I always have something new to do.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Honestly, its great if the new mechanics dont affect you. However, Anet does need to focus on many different playstyles, and if they are creating things that are negatively impacting parts of their playerbase, the players have a right to voice their dissent and Anet can listen and decide if the points are relevant enough to warrant a change.
ANet or any other gaming company simply cannot make a game that appeals to everybody. All they can do is make a game that they have envisioned as being cool and let each player decide if its the game for him/her.
No matter what ANet does, they will NEVER satisfy everyone.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Couldn’t agree more. I mean, this is common with all MMO’s but GW2 seems to have been hit pretty hard by endless, nonconstructive complaining all across the board.
EQ2 boards are virtually identical in the quantity and scope of complaining. Even though a lot of people there have been playing if for over a decade.
Like GW2, its a solid, enjoyable game. Bugs and all.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Interesting to watch the developing dynamic.
If you like the game you are apparently playing with blinders on and simply don’t understand.
While if you post consistent negativity, you are a shining light to clueless ANet devs who desperately need your input to make thier game successful.
The forums on every game out there shares this same mindset.
Its become so predictable, its downright hilarious.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
O bullkitten…..The Manifesto was pure marketing. Name me a single game that ever lived up to marketing. That said…its still a solid game and better than any of the alternatives out there right now.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
GW1 pretty much sucked, IMO. This is far better.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
I have no words to express just how that made me feel.
Queasy, mostly.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
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“…..Our L.A. is brimming over with “Commanders” and Legendary Weapon bearers. We rarely find many people who fail the tougher paths in dungeons. A lot of times the Priest of Grenth DE will also “Accidentally Succeed” to the shagrin of everyone who was just trying to farm it…..”
Same can be said for any server out there.
Most servers though, TC included, can’t seem to talk a lot of PVE’ing faction of the game into participating in WvW. If any server could tap that well of talent…then nothing could stop it.
But how to invigorate a population that simply has other things to do?
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Good post.
And the majority rarely even bothers with the forums.
The last game I played started running in-game polls through their mail system to find out what the majority actually thought. The results were quite a bit different than the drivel spouted (yes, it happens elsewhere too) on the forums.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Dear Pepsi, I understand how hard it is to make soda, and run a big corporation. I forgive you for the incompetence of putting bleach in my soda. I have no right to complain and be angered. I have been overall satisfied with your sodas so I’m willing to ignore the pain and grief corporate oversight has cause me.
On behalf of everybody else who might have had their stomach lining burned out, I commend you on a job well done.
Yes…and it only took me a mere 700 hrs of game play to come to this conclusion that my $60.00 was misspent. ANet should be ashamed.
<<rampant irony>>
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
TC’er also….good server. But we don’t RP.
Bigger isn’t necessarily better either. Sometimes it will take what you love and enjoy and turn it into a job. In the end… its about managing and dealing with people and, unfortunately….egos. Ran a large guild for several years. Will never do that again.
A solid group of 15-20 friends if far better than 200 people you barely know. My wife and I run a small guild of about 35 accounts. But as these things go, we have a core group of people..old friends and new friends of about 15-20 also.
If we recruit at all, we do it one at a time by just playing with folks or helping someone out in mapchat or in-game and then playing/talking with them.
Good Luck in whatever you decide…but be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Excuse us for trying to make the OP less miserable. Because he will be miserable if he plays an ele or necro, especially if he ends up playing a GOOD class later on.
I have one of each profession and none of them are “bad”….its just that all have strengths and weaknesses that a player has to learn.
Clothies in any game have always been squishy. They are in this game too. If you equate dying a lot to being miserable, then by all means choose another profession.
I will add that Necros & Ele’s seem be much less powerful than similar classes in other games. Can’t say the same for Mesmer though, lol.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Play both for awhile and make up your own mind. But…word of caution…it takes a lot longer to open up the Ele’s full abilities on all the weapon sets. Since you have to do each 4 times / per set…one for each element.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Lag isn’t always a game issue. Could be system or ISP on your end as well…might be a combo of all 3.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
I see a lot of Rangers on Gandhara farming gold and Karma.. their bow AOE is great to tag multiple mobs for looting rights :-)
I believe the cooldown of that AOE is quite long. There must be better alternatives?
(I am playing with a shortbow!)
My ranger uses axe/warhorn & longbow for farming.
I do keep a shortbow for questing and WvW though.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Warriors seem to find quite a bit. I farm on my ranger, but my wife’s warrior seems to pick up more goodies than my ranger.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Well, if you are soloing with MF…you’re drop rate..well, drops. Find a farm team, join up, gear up, eat and go farm.
Cursed Shore is good area to start. I farm a few hours on the weekends with my ranger…make 3-4 gold, then go back to leveling and playing other alts. I don’t equip MF gear, just eat MF food and hopefully have Guild Flag or 2 down.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
There are other maps. Human, Norn, Charr and Syvari all have intermediate zones….go find one you like.
Go Lions Arch and take any of the Zone Gates to any capitol to get started.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Free WoW is no different than sub Wow as far as I’m concerned.
Never liked that game.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Op, I could link you to at least 3 well known game forums where the gist of the conversation is just filled with the same type of bullkitten posted here.
The negativity is nothing new. Gamers just tend to be whinier than almost any other type of consumer.
Don’t take it to heart, Owen. There are plenty of people who like the game just fine…we just don’t feel the need to…. share….every single kitten day about how happy we are.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
One thing is becoming more and more apparent in these forums. The current generation of gamers appears to expect any game to provide them with all aspects of gameplay and enjoyment without taking any responsibility for using their own imagination to fill in the blanks.
Its pretty kitten sad.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
For the record, TC are the ones camping the JP tonight.
Oh for pete’s sake, get over it. Its not TC thats camping anywhere…or YB…or CD. Whats camping the JP are players from different servers beholden to nobody. They paid their 60 dollar entry fee to play the game…and are entitled to do whatever they call fun.
If the bulk of of those players that peruse these forums can honorably say..“Hey, we all agree that camping the JP is childish…lets not do that.”…That is a pretty good start to leading by example in each of our servers.
But no one here can actually tell anyone to play one way or another regardless of server or implied rank.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Skritt!……I’d definitely play a Skritt.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
There’s this really weird cognitive phenomenon where the people with the strongest convictions always believe that the other side is a vocal minority. This probably happens because it’s so easy—and so tempting—to believe that more people have to be on your side, because your side makes the most sense.
I really wish people would stop splitting our own community into false dichotomies: Vocal Minorities vs. Silent Majorities, Casuals vs Hardcore, Fanboys vs. Critical People, WoW Kiddies vs. Everyone Else.
The level of discourse in MMO communities would be better served if we quit trying to package every complex issue and the range of nuanced opinions that constitute them into a neat little bifurcation of People Like Myself vs. Everyone Else.
From a forum standpoint though….the real majority doesn’t give fat rats patootie about anything talked about in the forums. Forumites are really the minority. And why ANet would pay attention to anything posted here is beyond me.
Its not even a good sampling. If they want to find out what the real majority wants…start running in game polls via the mail system.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
This really isn’t about who’s the “vocal minority.” And it’s not about weather or not the new gear is legitimately more powerful or only slightly.
That’s really not the big picture, here.
This is about the basic gameplay standards and promises made by Anet, in the Guild Wars 2 Manifesto, AMAs, and press releases during development.
Arenanet. Don’t after-the-fact change the product that we already paid for.
Casual players…sad to say do not generate as much revenue has hardcore player/competitive players.
Do they? From my experience in F2P MMOs I would say hardcore gamers contribute nearly nothing themselves to a revenue. What they normaly do, is generating ingame-cash like gold, they are selling for shop-currency. So they are only set as a rolemodel for the greed competition to make “causals” or “midcore-gamers” spend RL-money to catch up.
I’d have to agree here. Casual players tend to have more cash than time due to, generally, working for a living.
Most hardcore gamers I’ve ever known almost make it an ideology to never, ever spend an rl dime in any game.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
If you disagree so much with the coming changes…then just don’t do it. Don’t include it in your gameplay.
I don’t really get why there is this uproar.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
LOL….its a great game.
But, no single game will EVER satisfy everyone. Thats why I hope that ANet just does their thing based mostly on what they think is best for this platform.
Raf
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Last night I logged on and sat around LA for a while. Considered doing some dungeons but then thought why even bother getting gear that in 2 days will be obsolete? Then I also thought with this new gear and new dungeon the exotics that enticed many to run these dungeons will be gone and we will all be on the hamster wheel of FotM. Despondent about a game I really love going this way I logged off 20 minutes later. Has anyone else felt that way?
If I ever did feel that way, the last thing I’d do is visit the forum (any forum, for that matter) to share my angst.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
It won’t make me play any less. I mean, really…its a game. Changing a minor game mechanic on the top end doesn’t invalidate anything done levels 1-80. Just means you have something more to keep you busy at 80 if leveling alts isn’t your thing.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
The thing is…no one can completely control an all volunteer army. You guys talk about each other servers as if it was some sort of cohesive unit. Which its not. No one wields any authority over the actions of any player except what they earn in the eyes of the peeps they command.
So, yeah…some people camp certain spots. Some peeps could really give a rats rear end what some toon calling itself “Commander” is telling them to do. Some folks out there are so new they are just following the zerg and hoping not to die.
Lets not play the blame game by blaming entire servers for the actions of players they have absolutely no control over. Let the kids camp the JP’s and the rest of us will continue to have fun playing honorably.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
See what happens when you pay too much attention to the highly vocal minority that infests the forums.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon
Just go farm. When your loot doesn’t seem like its what you think it oughta be…go farm elsewhere or wait awhile before farming the same area again.
Raf Longshanks-80 Norn Guardian / 9 more alts of various lvls / Charter Member Altaholics Anon