Guild Wars 2

Kerithlan.1659:

HenryAu.7523:

Well call me old and cynical. I’m calling it here that the parade dolyak is going to die and a massive brawl will happen.

Yes, I have lost faith in the humanity of online FPS and PvP gamers a long time ago. Go ahead… prove me wrong. =)

Calling it here and now, since both CD and YB appear to be on board with this yak march. Fort Aspenwood players are going to kill the yak because of their blind rage toward Yak’s Bend. I’m surprised they don’t camp dolyaks 24/7 just to get another shot at killing a yak.

If we were all adults talking about this, we could do it easily.

Alas……

Yep…I agree. Its a pretty good community outside of parts of the forums. But negativity in the forums is pretty much the norm in all games.

56 myself…and my wife and I play and run a guild together also. Ok…so she runs it and I dabble with a multitude of alts.

Nayru.3947:

Other than the fact that GW2 is nothing like GW1 in even the slightest aspect and GW2 failed, they could have released 4 or 5 new campaigns for GW1 in that time and been a lot more successful.

Either that or they could’ve sold GW2 to Blizzard to make it WoW2. But I don’t think they’d take it.

They would never have sold 2 million copies if they had released a hundred new campaigns for GW1.

Open world….and WvW, of course.

Have only done CM and AC early on. Never went back. No interest in fractals either.

We don’t use officers of any sort except Guild Leader. Been there, done that…it just separates people. We’re all adults though, so that is probably why it works for us. Everyone is just here to have a good time, run a few groups and bs in chat and on voice.

That said…just talk to people out in the real world. Or help folks out in map chat. They are generally new and trying to figure the game out.

But don’t spam invite. Try to get a feel for the person you are helping. Just talk to them for a bit before you invite them. You may saveyourself some trouble in the future.

karma.8763:

They are plenty profitable……shock farm the mats yourself, if you are buying your mats on trading post your doing it wrong.

Making assumptions again, huh? I farm and harvest all the time. But there is no way to farm enough to make multiple exotics on a regular basis without having to supplement from the TP from time to time.

Also, if you had bothered to read it…I never said he didn’t make 50 g…I said I suspected he netted less than 50 g.

Just up and move to the server you want. Why the need to come announce it here? Its like you are somehow looking to boost your legitimacy when you make your move.

Don’t worry about it. We’ve all done it. Just play the game, clear the maps and karma will come to you.

Niim.9260:

Hekatombaion.4320:

It’s presumed that as a corpse you are spying for a larger group. It’s dirty to not release, you have only sinister reasons to not release.

Is it just me, or does anyone else always find these good times to go afk, get a drink, use the bathroom, talk with the wife, etc, etc. I love coming back to people still standing around my corpse while I was eating my supper and watching TV.

Thats when I take my breaks. Spying?…please…its kitten video game…I’ll map when I’m ready to play again. But I really don’t care what you’re doing while I’m taking a few minutes to do whatever.

Auesis.7301:

Tell that to my weaponsmith guildie who has made 50g+ in the past week or 2.

50 gold in 2 weeks seems excessive to me. So he must be making exotics and if he is, he’s gotta be buyin mats. I’d bet his net is a lot less than 50 gold.

Star Ace.5207:

Raf.1078:

Star Ace.5207:

Raf.1078:

There probably is no place for a true healer in this game. Best you can do is play support. But even then you’ll need to add to the overall dps of the group to make it efficient.

Hey….I played heal classes in almost all previous games. But I won’t pigeonhole myself into saying thats the only type of play I enjoy.

Even with minimal power, a healer/support “type” of player will still ALWAYS add DPS, however little, thus he/she will always be welcome in any party of mine. Efficiency will never trump having fun, and players only have fun when the game and playstyle suits them, not when forced to follow a “necessary” meta playstyle (such as “DPS”.)

I do not mean to argue/offend, though.

We are discussing the archetypes, not any particular person. As a casual gamer, I’ll not turn anyone away based on their build…but that said.

Speccing your character to pure heal in this game deprives any group of a fully functioning group and deprives yourself of the ability to solo. So why try to shoehorn another game’s playstyle into a game that operates differently?

Play how you want to, but there is no actual “need” in GW2 for 1/3 of the Trinity.

Having max healing power in no way constitutes playing a “healer role” ala GW1 and other games. I do not care for the so-called “trinity”, nor have any use of it, and actually welcome GW2’s system. I just don’t think it’s all about DPS EITHER, and if a player wants to heal/support me, I will respect his/her choice in playing whichever way he/she wants, not in a “must have”, “efficient”, “speedrunner” way, as I am sure he/she will still attack the enemy while providing superior buffs/heals (either direct or over time) to the whole party.

Again, I do not mean to offend, but this:

“Speccing your character to pure heal in this game deprives any group of a fully functioning group and deprives yourself of the ability to solo. "

is your opinion and own bias, not in any way a real assessment AT ALL. In fact, I soloed efectively all the time with such builds and gear, and made my teams better (of course, I probably would have been “deadweight” for you, but that’s another issue.)

I still have my Exotic Magi’s armor ready for use, though am using Knight’s armor with Cleric’s trinkets for a bit more power and toughness with just a bit of loss of healing power.

Note that I am not boasting of anything, just letting you know that your statement (I.E. personal preference) is not true for everybody out there. Just make sure to avoid me in your parties, so I don’t “slow you down” with my “inefficient”, “non-elite” playstyle. :P

In short, I do agree there’s NO need for a healer role, because it can’t be possibly fulfilled anyway (at least not in a strict, “trinity-esque” way)-that doesn’t mean that one cannot focus on Healing Power and buff builds, though, as one can keep attacking while supporting your allies.

Take care, let’s just agree to disagree, as I doubt we’ll convince each other, and it’s not worth the debate.

Opinions are like kittens, we all have them. All I’ll add is I like not “needing” a healer for tough content. I don’t miss trinity type play at all.

There is a range, no doubt. Crafting is totally worth it when making exotics…will save you tons of coin. But from levels 1-60 ish…its sometimes less expensive to buy armor and weapons than it is to craft them and have to buy mats that you are short on.

I don’t want to transfer. I paid my $60 for a slot on the server of my choice. I should have to give up a fully paid for account on a server that I’d been on since the early Betas because RL is interfering with my ability to play much at this time?

So, hypothetically…if I purchased the game in the early betas, chose my server wayy back then…played the game a lot, but due to any number of factors I’m not playing much now. Be it family, holidays, whatever? But now I decided to sign in…

I should be denied access to my chosen server because ANet is being asked to overbook the available servers and cull players based on who get online first?

In a non-sub game, I payed my 60 bucks to play on the server I chose. My slot is guaranteed (or should be…as it seems it is right now) no matter how much or how little I play.

But for a little give and take….how about culling inactive accounts to a storage or overflow server if they are offline for 90 days without a sign in?

“Can I jump that far?”

“Wonder if I can solo that Champion”

I’m a Thief, no one can touch me."

Oh, this game is rife with “foot in mouth” disease.

xiv.7136:

Raf.1078:

I take my headset off when they are around. No biggie.

I do think some players do it “just” because they know it annoys people/

We really don’t. Shout warriors are basically buff machines that need to keep spamming their FGJ on cd to keep the buffs up.

Not talking about the folks playing the game and using a shout build, X. Talking about the ones that just hang a round the bank in Divinity’s Reach spamming the tab, lol.

I don’t care one way or the other. If I know them, I say ‘Hi"…if I don’t, then I ignore them unless we are cooperating in a DE or something.

Why does the blue dorito bother so many people?

Narkosys.5173:

Although an Assuran would hate this:
Socks
Human or Norn depending on how long and floppy.

But the smell……

I know…nuthin smells worse than an floppy ol’ Asura ear (ughh)

Star Ace.5207:

Raf.1078:

There probably is no place for a true healer in this game. Best you can do is play support. But even then you’ll need to add to the overall dps of the group to make it efficient.

Hey….I played heal classes in almost all previous games. But I won’t pigeonhole myself into saying thats the only type of play I enjoy.

Even with minimal power, a healer/support “type” of player will still ALWAYS add DPS, however little, thus he/she will always be welcome in any party of mine. Efficiency will never trump having fun, and players only have fun when the game and playstyle suits them, not when forced to follow a “necessary” meta playstyle (such as “DPS”.)

I do not mean to argue/offend, though.

We are discussing the archetypes, not any particular person. As a casual gamer, I’ll not turn anyone away based on their build…but that said.

Speccing your character to pure heal in this game deprives any group of a fully functioning group and deprives yourself of the ability to solo. So why try to shoehorn another game’s playstyle into a game that operates differently?

Play how you want to, but there is no actual “need” in GW2 for 1/3 of the Trinity.

There probably is no place for a true healer in this game. Best you can do is play support. But even then you’ll need to add to the overall dps of the group to make it efficient.

Hey….I played heal classes in almost all previous games. But I won’t pigeonhole myself into saying thats the only type of play I enjoy.

FLFW.3105:

Raf.1078:

If you are talking about the TP…prices are subject to as much as the market will bear and still give the consignee a sale. Sorry you think the prices are high…but you aren’t the one gathering, buying and making the weapons. Not to mention leveling the crafter. You aren’t, technically, paying for a Greatsword…you are paying for a service.

If you aren’t talking about the TP, why are you wasting coin buying the trash from npc vendors?

Obviously i was talking about Karma and Tokens.

Its not that obvious. Nowhere in your original post did you state that. Maybe I missed something in the thread though as I didn’t read all of it.

I had a dry spell for a couple of months, then outa nowhere, I’ve had 3 drop within the last week.

Lots of open world content for solo or group play. Lots of classes (i.e. professions) for alts. Lots of tradeskill options.

None of which I have a lot of spare time for though. But means that if I like a game, I’ll stay for years. I still have several unopened maps. I’m hoarding them for the future.

It also helps that I have a group of casual gaming buds from all over the world that I’ve played with on one game or another for the last 4 years.

If you are talking about the TP…prices are subject to as much as the market will bear and still give the consignee a sale. Sorry you think the prices are high…but you aren’t the one gathering, buying and making the weapons. Not to mention leveling the crafter. You aren’t, technically, paying for a Greatsword…you are paying for a service.

If you aren’t talking about the TP, why are you wasting coin buying the trash from npc vendors?

I take my headset off when they are around. No biggie.

I do think some players do it “just” because they know it annoys people/

Barabbas.8715:

JMadFour.9730:

at all? even a little bit?

Reading this forum as a new player, I get the impression that this is one of the worst MMOs on the market.

The mood around here was generally much more positive before Nov 15 and the terrible patch.

Bullkitten. This place became toxic as soon as the hardcores hit 80 in a few days and began complaining about nothing to do. Its gone downhill ever since. The good thing though, is the mods put a halt to the endless repetition of complaint threads.

Now we only have a to read a few of them. At least most are well written these days.

Cross.6437:

What I’d like is to not have my guild’s influence wasted on a full-guild server transfer.

I’m sorry you can’t get in, but we RP guilds are fairly entrenched here on TC. It’s no more reasonable for us to move than it is to tell you to simply be patient and keep trying.

Besides, “unofficial” is the key word here. There is nothing official slating TC as an RP server. So, if you can round up enough people behind you, you can just as easily start an RP population on a different server, just as the OP is trying to do.

Unfortunately….this.

At this point, its highly illogical to ask RP guilds to move lock, stock & barrel when they have a good thing going on TC. I see RP all over the place now. Especially in DR . If the game ever initiates player housing and guild halls…the neighborhoods of DR will come to life.

Might as well start the 2nd un-official NA RP Server and start filling it if you can’t /won’t keep trying to get into TC.

And lets not forget all those professions that are so broken as to be totally un-playable according to the forums. I have an engineer and Necro in WvW doing just fine, thanks.

Yeah…I like the game. I like it a lot.

RedBaron.6058:

Raf,

In this world (GW2) 1 percursor is a huge step forward towards the coolest items called Legendary. Thats why people want to have at least ONE chance of opening a Lost Shores event chest, after participating in it and having been not able (for several reasons) to open the reward chest.

Its just a game, Red.

I could care less if I get a chest. Its just a game for pity’s sake. Not the end of the world.

Josher.9612:

Its one of the reasons why the battle system in groups seems so poor. Group unity is NOTHING compared to how other MMOs do it. Call it the trinity. Call it UI design. Call it whatever you want, but when I played WOW for example, I knew when I was supporting others and when they supported me. In GW, you just don’t get the same sort of feedback. Blizzard simply understands this so much more than ANET ever has.

It could be how in other MMOs, certain buffs are reserved for certain classes, so you know what you’re going to get because X class is in your party. And they were far more apparent when the buffs hit you. In GW2 everyone has almost everything, and then there are stacks of it, instead of it simply being on or off. The boost isn’t significant enough. Sometimes, you barely notice. Sometimes you do.

How classes support one another is just badly designed, no matter how you slice it, unless GW is all you know. Then you might think its great. Then again, ignorance is no excuse=)

There are plenty of games out there that play that way. This is the one that doesn’t. I think its refereshing to “not” have to depend on anyone for heals. Everyone being able to mind their own heals first and foremeost…“and” share if they can is enormously liberating.

I played healers also in a couple of those other games. This sysyem is better, imo.

I do if I run across an event…but I don’t camp the dragons spawn sites.

If your new, you might not have your chat settings clicked. Click the appropriate tab and drop the options box down on the chat window. Then click the type of chat you want to participate in.

“Say”….for local….this is generally where people say thinks. I always get a response when thnking someone.

“Map”…for the area chat of the map you’re in

Party, team etc….. you may know all this. But was just saying. Have had to help a couple of new guildies, so its not all that uncommon.

Ele’s die a lot…get used to it, lol.

Only useful if you care what your armor or weapons look like. A lot of people, including myself, do.

Just because the game allows players to represent multiple guilds doesn’t mean you have to allow it in your guild. Make your own rules.

Raine.1394:

Katai.6240:

Can someone explain to me why Ascended gear is such a big deal? I mean, did a couple of rings and backpack really obliterated this game? Is this game that fragile? And we don’t know how armors are acquired, either. How can they break the game when they’re not even in yet?

Here’s what I understand from Ascended gear.

• Slightly better than Exotic, slightly worse than Legendary. Mostly a negligible difference in PvE and WvW. If a handful of stats is making you lose at WvW, I think you’re doing something wrong.
• No upgrade slot. Which means less versatility than Exotic gear. If armor continues to not have upgrade slots, then we make use of our Runes with special effects on them. This makes them slightly worse than Ascended gear depending on the type of runes you prefer to use.
• Has Agony resistance and takes Agony increasing infusions. This is only relevant in Fractals. People are crying because they can’t get ascended gear because they don’t play Fractals. Why do you want a stat restricted to a mode you don’t play?

Then people are saying that Ascended makes Exotics obsolete, except we don’t know how we get Ascended armors? Maybe we use Exotics to craft Ascended. Who knows?

The problem is not the degree of progression they’ve introduced with Ascended gear. The problem is that they have committed themselves to vertical progression. Vertical progression “progresses” by periodically raising the power-level. This won’t stop, ever, and you will find that if you don’t hop on the treadmill at some point, you will not be able to play the new content. That’s the way all WoW-like games work. You can ignore it for a time, but eventually the difference between you and the environment will simply be too great for you to play. Let me repeat it since I see so many posts on the insignificance of the stat increase: The degree of vertical progression with Ascended gear does not matter in the slightest; what matters is the introduction of vertical progression.

So…you’re quitting because of what “might” happen. Well, now it finally makes sense.

I may have to quit driving because another driver might hit me.

I really don’t understand all this stuff about waypoint costs. Its not that expensive if you just play the game. If I didn’t craft, I’d have more money than I’d know what to do with…(but I like crafting)

I really don’t know what you guys are doing thyats keeping you so poor you can’t travel??

Gehenna.3625:

Raf.1078:

Quit over a gear type that my play style will likely never see me accomplish? Hardly.

Not the least bit interested in ascended / legendary gear or dungeons of any type for that matter.

My interest may begin to lessen once I’ve leveled every profession to 80. Every crafting skill to max and I run out of open world to explore down to the nth degree.

So when’s that then, next week?

I figure a couple of years…at least. Maybe more. I don’t play like the youngsters do.

Quit over a gear type that my play style will likely never see me accomplish? Hardly.

Not the least bit interested in ascended / legendary gear or dungeons of any type for that matter.

My interest may begin to lessen once I’ve leveled every profession to 80. Every crafting skill to max and I run out of open world to explore down to the nth degree.

Dungeon Finder isn’t the answer to why guilds fail in any case. Its a completely different issue. Guilds fail for a variety of reasons. Bad management, immaturity and egos come to mind right off hand. And if you are just unlucky…all 3 of those will be present in your rapidly imploding guild.

Really…successful guilds just boil down to good people having fun in a game that they enjoy.

Egun isn’t meant, imo, to be equipped as a primary weapon. Its a support tool for group condition removal, additional heals and mob debuff…. a couple of clicks then back to your primary or grenades. Or whatever.

KirinDave.6451:

Raf.1078:

@ KirinDave, re: traits

Speedy kits though…nothing like a quick strategic retreat or fast zone traverse…spamming medi-kit n toolkit.

Speedy Kits is so overrated for leveling. It’s fine, but once I get where I am going I turn it off. And I certainly think there are better traits to pick up first. If you have to retreat in PvE and you can’t do it by just running, it’s unlikely swiftness will make a difference anyways. A far better solution is to snare.

To each their own…I like perma-swiftness.

Zyx….try getting on in the early morning hours. 2AM-4AM CST or EST…I’ve had some friends get on that way. Though not lately.

TC seems pretty full lately though. There were big groups running around outside of DR last night. Reminded me of the betas and the August rollout.

Is school out or something?

Guild hopping isn’t a good mechanic. Not sure why that was instituted. I don’t hop. But thats my choice. We have several that do and we’re okay with it since its part of this game.

But, would rather see it changed if given the choice.

Do this….ask your guild. Count how many people in your guild are active forum participants.

In my guild of 30 active accounts and 15 or semi-active…there is 1 active forum participant. Me. Everyone else is too busy playing whatever part of the game intrigues them the most. There are altaholics, farmers, explorers, the dungeon crew, crafters, WvW’ers…and no small amount of mixed label players. If, indeed, you can actually label a player.

Most of them could care less about what goes on here. Except whatever tidbit of useful information I happen to pass on that I’ve gleaned here. I suspect most of you will find something similar..though there are prob some exceptions.

The thing is…it was exactly the same in EQ2. Or Runes of Magic.

And I can pretty much guarantee you that my views do not represent a majority of my guild.

@ KirinDave, re: traits

Speedy kits though…nothing like a quick strategic retreat or fast zone traverse…spamming medi-kit n toolkit.

I usually run with rifle, Egun and grenades mostly. I do love tossing grenades down tunnels full of bad guys, lol. I’ll usually switch to grenades if I’m fighting in closed in areas.

Though lately I’ve been switching grenades for tools to mess around with prybar. That changes the way I approach a fight…but the engineer is nothing if not adaptable.

Never really used turrets. Outside of supply crate.

Best profession in the game…though its not for everyone, it seems.

I’ve read all the endless whining. But, I can make anything work and have a good time doing it. Bugs be kittened.

A blind fanboi can make an engineer work…but you can’t.

Reckon that says it all.

Define squishy. Are you pulling too many? Are you constantly on the move or trying to stand flat-footed and spam buttons (like some games).

I’d say the engineer is very situational in most builds outside of bunker. Especially in the beginning when your short on trait points You need to be aware and choose your fights.

Join a group when you can. And keep trying…it gets better.

I like rifle over pistols, btw. Mostly for the control it gives me over my opponents. I solo most of the time. There is a rifle / static build in these forums that I’ve been using for pve with a lot of success.

I also use it for WvW…but have beent thinking about doing some changes there. Maybe anyway..as I don’t pvp much as a rule.

P.S. Here is the thread with the rifle / static build…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Chain-Lightning-Engineer-Build/first#post846752

@ mavet

“….I can’t play (( insert every profession here))…therefore all the classes are nerfed to oblivion and simply unplayable….” ??

You can’t be serious. And if you are, then its more about your lack of skill and less about the game in general.