I am kitteng crying in here….finally anet gave us some love….
- iWarden not attacking fixed-long time coming
- Illusionary Elasticity: Works with Winds of Chaos on staff clones-not much of a big deal I think
- Maim the Disillusioned: increased the amount of torment to 4 seconds to 6 seconds-I dont think that all the torment changes are neccessary,condi mesmer builds were already powerful,the scepter change is nice and welcome,but to me, it should have stop there.
- Scepter AA applies torment
Ether bolt – 2 seconds of torment, Ether blast – 4 seconds of torment,
Ether clones apply – 2 seconds of torment
- iLeap: Clone now summons on target-BOOOOOOYA
- Mind stab: 17%+ damage, radius increased to 240-BOOOOYAx2
- Offensive Mantras have bigger radius-The mantra didnt had radius to begin with so saying BIGGER is false you can say simply added radius
Mantra of Pain: Power spike, 5 target 240 Radius AOE-not using it
Mantra of Distraction: Power lock, 5 targets 180 Radius AOE-This is AWESOME ! love playing lockdwon mesmer and this is a serious buff to it.
- Triumph distortion: Also applies 1 second distortion on Phantasms-seems nice*
- Mimic: Copies all boons with their duration (30 second CD)-too long CD to be used imo
Overall I think these changes-part of the torment ones-were mendatory,but still,there are many bugs to fix .(which hopefully they will ninja fix it).
TIME TO BE RELIABLE AGAIN!
If anet would only change DE to be core mechanic.It will do.I wouldnt need anything else.Perfect!
They owe us a really good buff!
all the good warriors embrace this change,but all the bad warriors hate it.It is very logical,but dont you worry,you’ll get better in time(more practice)
To improve build diversity, we are removing Empowering Mantras, Prismatic Understanding, and moving Warden’s Feedback to be a Grandmaster (swapping with Disruptor’s Sustainment). As of yet, we have not found any replacement for the two removed traits. If we ever decide to release new traits in these slots, all players, legacy or not, will have to unlock them again.
Illusionist’s Celerity will now only affect Utility Skills, so it does not improperly stack with traited weapons.
Phantasmal Warden’s will now reflect projectiles. Traiting Warden’s Feedback will cause them to not reflect projectiles.
Fixed Mind Slash chain. Was improperly removing boons, applying vulnerability, and dealing bonus damage to targets without boons.
To improve build diversity, the way traits provide stats has been changed.
Dueling will now provide Condition Damage instead of Precision.
Illusions will now grant Boon Duration instead of Condition Damage
Chaos will now grant Power instead of Boon Duration.
Domination will now grant Healing Power instead of Power.
Inspiration will now grant Precision instead of Healing Power.Fixed a bug where Critical Infusion was giving Mesmers Vigor.
Fixed a bug where Sharper Images was being activated by Illusions.
Compounding Power now gives increased boon duration for each active illusion, up to a maximum of 1%.
Phantasmal Haste is being swapped with Maim the Disillusioned. We feel that this will provide build diversity and allow more players to trait Maim the Disillusioned.
Removed Torment from Maim the Disillusioned.
Illusionary Persona also kills the player, as they are being shattered. This makes more sense, thematically.
Imbued Diversion’s Radius is too large, reduced to 0.
Bountiful Interruption also applies Chilled to the Mesmer whenever an enemy is interrupted.
Improved Furious Interruption’s activation chance to 50% from 100%.
Harmonious Mantras isn’t used enough, all Mantras are now reduced to 1 charge.
Deceptive Evasion now spawns a clone only when no clones are alive. This trait now works while out of combat.
Desperate Decoy now casts Mimic instead of Decoy.
Desperate Decoy renamed to Desperate Mime.
Mimic no longer reflects missiles.
Blade Training no longer reduces the recharge on sword skills.
Blurred Frenzy has had it’s cooldown increased to 20s.
Blurred Frenzy has half cooldown if nothing is evaded.
Arcane Thievery is blockable now.
Phantasmal Fury now affects Clones.
Phantasmal Fury no longer affects Phantasms.
Empowered Illusions no longer affects Phantasms.
Mental Torment now also applies Torment to the Mesmer.
Mender’s Purity now applies to Phantasmal Defender and Phantasmal Disenchanter.
Mender’s Purity no longer affects healing skills.
Medic’s Feedback now casts Temporal Curtain on the Mesmer.
Medic’s Feedback no longer casts Feedback.
Medic’s Feedback has been renamed to Medic’s Curtain.
Signet of the Ether has been changed to no longer apply a passive heal.
Time Warp has been removed from the game.
Portal Entre has been removed from the game.
Portal Exeunte has been changed to an Elite Skill.
Feedback no longer spawns on a target.
Veil now applies 2s Protection for allies.
Veil no longer applies Stealth.
Illusion of Life has been permanently been placed on all Mesmer skill bars.We truly believe these changes will help improve diversity amongst builds and help improve Mesmer’s in all modes of gameplay. It will also, healthily, improve Mesmer play.
hahahahahahahahahaha would love to see IP changed to IK(illusionery Kamikaze)
I just want a fix for iCharge to be what it should be->iLeap.
Seriously though,if anet gonna nerf us again,ima gonna quit the game.
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To draw a parallel, thieves that use a stealth attack are still unchanged. A stealth attack can be blocked, evaded, blinded, invulnned, and it still doesn’t break their stealth. To be honest I’d like this change a lot more if similar changes happened to all classes.
ok,lets “draw a parallel”,thief have 15k less health than warrior,thief have less mobility than warrior,thief dosnt have adrenalin bar passive effects.warrior outdmg thief. The one thing thief is only better than warrior is the stealth,and even that you want the anet will nerf.learn2play instead of QQing.
To the subject,I also think that adrenalin is a bit extreme nerf,should have nerfed it that adrenalin-gain-sources,would give less adrenalin than usual.And keep the adrenalin on fail attempt.
Zap-TP for 300g 1k hours
Spark-TP for 1200g 3k hours
I push the portal limit and it often fails.
I yell at my iWarden in an unhealthy manner.
I can hardly ever get my Illusionary Wave to go in the direction I meant.
My mesmer looks like the Statue of Liberty when she casts Mass Invis and I feel cool.
I am bummed the bug got fixed on iLeap.
get a thief with basilik venom on mass invis animation on you will be really STATUE of liberty
Two things I have to say for you.
1.S/d thieves.
2.thieves will get balance patch aswell,so just wait and see.
I am so used to traveler,but when im not on traveler I drag warhorn warrior with me lol
I’m usually really good with dyes and character customizing. Do you mind posting a picture of the desired armor set to go with the dyes? Each piece of armor dyes differently from others.
Also, it’s 2 am ish here so I can’t do it until tomorrow sorry.
If you’re looking for a Mesmer-ic staff, use Kasmeer’ if you have. Other than that, I used to use the Caudecus Manor staff or the Ebon Hawke staff before I got the Bifrost.
It’s a shame really, I love my Bifrost but the Tormented staff also looks very Mesmer-y if you have some money to spend
really,all the tormented weapons are MADE FOR MESMERS.
Hey dude, I don’t play Necro like … at all, but I think I could give some tips on versing a Mesmer.
The thing to remember is that not every Mesmer that uses stealth is a PU Mesmer, and nearly every Mesmer has a vulnerability to condition damage. Even if you’re not specced for conditions, poison HURTS and the rest of the conditions will often cause a bit of panic in your opponent. When fighting a Mes, one of the best things you can do is look at the weapon they’re wielding before deciding to engage.
Greatsword – They’re intending on keeping you away at range since the closer you are, the less damage the GS does. The main burst comes from a combination of Mirror Blade, Shatter, and MindSpike (essentially you’ll see them unceremoniously pitch their GS at you which does damage/summons a clone next you and then spike it into the floor + Shatter for a nutty wombo-combo burst) If you can dodge that, then all they have left is spamming autoattacks at range, summoning a phantasm and they’re vulnerable.
The other thing to keep in mind is the GS phantasm is one of the most deadly phantasms we have, when you see the Mesmer summon (raising the greatsword to the sky) try to jumpdodge (jump + V) the initial hit, and kill it before it has another chance to strike.
Scepter – They’re likely a PU Mesmer. Their main source of damage will come from Torment via scepter’s counter attack. If you have minions, let the minions do the work, unblockable wells work well too. Like most mesmer, PU Mesmer are much more vulnerable to condition damage than power damage. If you can manage to kite the clones and cleanse the torment they won’t be able to kill you.
Sword – If they’re wielding a sword, they’re going to try and shatterburst you. This means that they have to get into melee range to do damage, and that’s where you’ll excel. Don’t be afraid to drop marks on yourself or near you, rather than trying to catch the Mesmer with them. Make it nigh impossible for them to approach and when they do, if you can dodge the Illusionary Leap, you can render most of their burst useless.
Stealth – Yeah, stealth sucks but it has a couple noteable weaknesses. For one, stealth does NOT mean invulnerability: Wells, Marks, Life Siphon can still give away the Mesmer’s position or eff them up.
For another Mesmer stealth only lasts 3 seconds (4 if using PU). Counting down the time really helps predicting when the Mesmer is going to attack and when to dodge.
Oh.. and most mesmer only carry 2 forms of stealth. Only one is a stunbreak, and the other is either an Elite (5 second mass invis) or attatched the the Torch.
Pistol/Sword/GS Phantasms Kill them! Kill them asap!
- It helps to remember that Mesmer tend to usually only carry 3 stunbreaks at max.
- Decoy/Blink are staples of most Mesmers, and as a result every 15 seconds or so we have some form of escape. Try to bait these out before going for a heavy hit.
- Mesmers are extremely dodge-happy; we have to be in order to produce the clones we need for damage/defense. A good Mesmer is never gonna be easy to takedown, but a single dodge takes 10 seconds to recharge (5 with Vigor) so if you see a Mesmer dodge twice in 10 seconds then they’re vulnerable. Lifeblast our culo.
… Ah man. I am such a traitor.
You hereby banned from Mesmer forums.Thanks for your service.
@Sandrox
Not sure about power. I have 2370 Power Naked with GS. Add 250 for BL Stacks, 100 for WVW Buff, 100 for Stone and another 70 for Food.
For GS#1 damage is around 800-1,2k Damage If crit vs Squishy. 500-700 Damage vs Bruiser, 500 vs Tanky or Prot Boon. All if crit and that per hit so every 0,5s.IMO it’s about my playstyle. I always wasting all my Damaging skills to enemy coz it has fast CD. So basically i force them to waste their dodge or else u take my Phantasm damage. It’s not bad in my Team coz that mean easier for my Allies to set up a kill or Other Carry to make a damage. But the result people think Warrior carried.
Sure i can abuse my Healer to follow me but sometimes that heal should be allocate to other Member. Example my Tank to keep holding 5++ Enemies or maybe other Carry. Yes it can but… Well we will see.. Hehehe
You see,I get it,you let others do the killing while you pressuring ppl,but as far as I can see,if you will be in tight spot,when the warrior and the guard could not help you,you want to deal dmg yourself w/e if it’s to kill the thief who stomps the guard,or the tankish warrior that come at you(and yes tankish warrior can deal dmg to you) you will fail.Sure you can kite them all the way,and if it is your playstyle it is fine,but note that there are better proffesions for that kind of thing(e.g Ranger?).miao
Modniir staff dosnt evebn look like ley line staff not even close to be look like ley line staff lol
Did you mean to link an elementalist build?
you got trolled ^^(I think^^)
or increasing mantra charges to 3 and instead of the grandmaster trait that gives extra charge give like 15% cd reduction on mantras.
This could really encourage mantras builds.
it can also solve the cond cleanse problem with menders purity in active.I run Harmonious Mantras a lot. I think if you made 3 casts the default it would make mantras really, really strong across the board. Maybe a bit excessive, to be honest. 3-cast MoR with Mender’s Purity is a ton of condition removal. 3-cast Mantra of Distraction without a trait investment might make Power Block + Chillruption a thing.
Well,seeing the buff rangers got I dont see this change very OP.
Nobody told you to go full shatter,but to give some love to power.
If sniping with GS means doing outmost 1k dmg and almost no dmg to tankish builds,that is by no mean called “Sniping” .I think the right word is “Tickling”.
If you afraid of bursts,note that I use shatter mesmer in gvgs and it is basically what all other mesmers use in gvgs,and the potencial to get burst in gvgs is higher than your play,so consider that.Good mesmers use better dmg and not tickling the enemies and from time to time using izerker as the main dmg source.
It all come to this,if you would have played with copy group of yours only the other mesmer is a good shatter mesmer,you would have lost it.
or increasing mantra charges to 3 and instead of the grandmaster trait that gives extra charge give like 15% cd reduction on mantras.
This could really encourage mantras builds.
it can also solve the cond cleanse problem with menders purity in active.
I just hope Anet would increase our cond cleanse(reduce Null-Field CD for example)
or give us a decent ileap animation that dosnt stop when someone poof it thank you
Sometimes,I feel OP,so I only let my dodge clones attack my target.
You could be true about the ranger,but I dont think in general, when ppl publish videos about thier builds,and kill with it moas for example,you cant really tell if the build is good or not.That said,there were no moas,and the builds you trying to share could be great,Im just pointing it out that the crowd want to see the better fights and not a steamroll fights.
Rest in pieces thieves…..rest in pieces…..
except maybe the cond ranger most of the fights were against incompetent players imo.
Necro which had full DS and didnt used,necro which kitteng used lich,condi thief that just stood in one place and let you dps him that “champ hunter” warrior that should stick to ranger or a thief taht could finish you up but instead just kite you and let you gs him to death.I dont say im better,or you are not.I just would like you to see your better fights such as against the condi ranger or the thief at start.tat is what I think.
ley line staff handsdown
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAW7alknpMtdqxUNMrNCuBZyJECU/jhcySGgfB-TZBBwAAeIAC3fIcZgJXAgMHBAA
This is the set up i’ve had the most success on.
Fury on Phants allows iDuel to stack up some bleeds before you blow it up
IE also applies to pistol 5 for some extra mayhem in group fights plus the Stun helps land shatters.
I threw in the chill Sigil for some extra condition trolling, it can throw off some rotations or atleast slow an opponent down.
Sigil of Doom to throw in poison to screw with heal spammers and cover it with confusion/torment
Its very much a support/troll build. I dont recommend attempting to Solo cap far or even Mid. Extremely strong against a lot of classes and builds in a 1v1 but it falls apart quickly in a 2v1 or against anyone who has Slow attacks, long attack chains, doesn’t need to move much, has passive and mass/spam condition clears.
If CD isnt your thing i would also recommend BI or MoA for the chaos master trait, both are solid choices and can really screw with some classes.
Manipulation Range increase is also a good option if you dont take Phant Fury in dueling.
As I stated last night while barely awake.. This type of build suffers from the same issues a Spike Shatter build does. Mostly ending up with all but 20 trait points tied up to play with.
It means thieves are an issue so if you get competitive you need someone to run with to save your kitten and really help the build work.
Limited Burst on this build means any fight you start or end up in, your goal is to make it quickly tilt in your favor and then draw it out. Only stupid players on the right classes (D/D ele’s specifically) will manage to spam/run themselves to death in a few seconds.
Hambows are an issue.. but they’re pretty much an issue for any build if you aren’t ready for them.
Did i mention Thieves?
Anyway, It can be a fun build but dont expect to ever get a ton of mileage off of it in the grand scheme of things. It doesn’t fill any roles that arent already filled in the competitive scene and it’s not a zerg mower for WvW. It doesn’t hit as hard as a typical IP shatter build and its not as cheese as PU.
Play it for fun, i dont recommend trying to force Maim into the Meta.. Its just not going to work in the game as it is right now.
I used that build,just changed IE to PH for to have as much as iduelist as possible(main source of bleed),and changed the sigil of accruacy on pistol to sigil of earth(extra bleed) and the rune set is lyssa.
Just for the sake of comparison:
Zap
TP
300g,1 year ago?
Spark
TP
1200g,today :|
hmm if a mesmer killed you like that,it is l2p.next!
Yep,OP,lets show other players that mesmer is STILL OP for them……. and wait for our next nerf.
I really hope Anet’s silence is a good sign, that it’s on purpose, to land a big surprise. Maybe the next feature patch, given that we’ll get one, will solve many important issues.
or they just dont give a kitten
“Skritt burglars are no longer affected by Polymorph Moa.”
I’m late, but I wanted to add this to the list because it’s borderline hilarious/sad. ANet please share with us the stats about how many times has this been “exploited” in game that required priority fixing over the list of game breaking bugs mesmer has. Please.
wait,so we can still tuna morph it?
Now you served ANet the next mesmer fix on a silver plate, I hope you’re proud of yourself…
They dont have this forum on thier tab,for anet,it just they have 7 proffesions there.
I would play Guardian if they had any decent ranged options tbh…
Direct quote from a-net “Guardian has the highest DPS auto attack (scepter) in game.”
I’ll let you decide whether you believe it or not.
necro dagger :o?
Violin/Harp !!! best weapon.
toughness,cause of thieves mostly and cause Cavalier and knight are great stats!
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“Skritt burglars are no longer affected by Polymorph Moa.”
I’m late, but I wanted to add this to the list because it’s borderline hilarious/sad. ANet please share with us the stats about how many times has this been “exploited” in game that required priority fixing over the list of game breaking bugs mesmer has. Please.
wait,so we can still tuna morph it?
Mesmer forum requires your attantion ANET! it cant be that more than 10 ppl minimum there complaining about the same things and they are wrong!
This is a good wasted idea,cause anet not gonna see it by any chance,so do ot waste more time on this.But good idea and good points there.
Dude,it is a l2p issue,mesmers constantly got nerfed untill a point they considered the most useless class in the game.Shatter builds got nerfed hard(vigor and ferocity).
PU is not viable as ppl mentioned.
So the only thing you need to watch out are those phntasam mesmers which they are also very easy to counter if you know when to dodge.
In conclusion,when fighting a mesmer always be on alert for the ibeserker of the greatswords and the immoblise which ususally comes blurred frenzy afterwords.
and the duelist,which can e outranged
You all fantastic players! I wish to see more ! that cant be all !
yea i would roll mesmer again but would name him:A Tree
How can Anet be so blind?,I mean we barly tickle a signet warriors,and we melt against any condi heavy spec and on top of all things we are useless any every aspect of the game! so yeah im very kittened that my main class which I love the most get hammered from all ways just because godkitten ppl who dosnt know how to play the game QQing to thier mothers that a mesmer got beat them.I have a friend that main a Ranger,before all the nerfs I was like hahahaha Ranger so useless hahahahah yesterday he told me hey,now we on the same boat mate,but you the one who rowing.
I do, but I don’t just roam. Malferian also solo roams in WvW. Supcutie and Helseth do a lot of PvP, but they’re def worth watching.
What do you mean by “I Dont just roam” ?
Thank you sir.Thank you very much.
Is there any mesmers currently have any up-to-date wvw solo roam videos?
or any active mesmer stream to watch?
I cannot get over the fact that you are stating a class is hurting the game not everyone wants to roll as a zerk and not everyone wants to play a certain class granted that they do not do the most damage but it is a mmo and diversity is what makes this game great people being different with different builds and what about noobs or low level players should they not join in world events as they are just hurting the game as well
The reason world boss events fail is because of people with bad builds. So yes they should not join in. They are preventing others from completing content. :P
complete rubbish,world bosses,are very different than doing dungeon,condition specs are still reliable at dungeons,mobs would melt from it,and the “mini bosses”,aswell.
problem is with wolrd events that there is a 25 stack limit,which not guarntee that you got it,and than your dmg reduced which is really the only time power builds shines.
First of all, the problem isn’t Condition Necromancers, it’s generally the state of conditions in PvE.
Second of all, what? A condi thief being superior to a Necromancer? Ah, sure. What are you gonna do, exactly? Put torment and bleeds on me? Lemme just transfer all that to you, who has no real condition cleanse, put my own conditions, fear you and then laugh while you melt.
Third of all, Necromancers don’t run. Also, let’s see how you’re planning to win in PvP if you’re running away from the points you’re trying to cap.
Agree with you 100%,thief have like 1 combo which gives all the conditions(which necro signet can do in no time lol),but than necro can consume it or transfer it,and have almost unlimited access to condition if spec right.
Warrior is very obvious landing conditions.(the riposte,the bow lol,the sword immo)
Engineer is the only proffesion who I can say that is equal in terms of overall condition dmg potencial.
Sorry,dagger is just a beast,I can kill a mesmer with 2-3 auto attack combos.
Guess what??? they still dont give a kitten about us.
Today forced myself to go OS and fight some ppl,I find that thieves,heavy condition specs and hybrid warriors which a bit more tankish,are impossible to beat in any power mesmer build(non PU) maybe except phantasm build.Against Warriors I get the upper hand from time to time but against thieves and condimancer,I die so fast!
Now im not saying im the best at being a mesmer,I just think that it cant be possible that every thief will get the better of me,or every warrior would just tank me away and kill me.It just feels mesmer class being torn apart,step by step.
mine is “Shh Im A mesmer”
What I do is to spam clones and wait in the middle when he backstabs or just near me,blurred frenzy + shatter.