Guild Wars 2

Reanne.5462:

I was just given this game from my brother, because he was fed up with it. And I am completely lost. I’ve got level 80 characters, and tons of gear. Now what? I try to run thru Verdant Brink, but there doesn’t seem to be any objective? People have said read dulfy’s guides, but everytime I figure out where I need to go, its the wrong time to go there, I can’t play this game 24hrs a day, maybe 2 hours a day. What is the point? I just don’t understand…

Indeed, it is like you have said. Gw2 does not have any particular objective and the objective is determined by the players themselves.

sephiroth.4217:

Kaleban.9834:

Because MMOs are jobs, not games.

Hey, the hardcore players asked for stuff like this because the game they bought that catered to casuals wasn’t hard enough.

Go figure.

i don’t think the hardcore players asked for anything. hardcore players generally fall under the category of gamer that play a number of games. hardcore players have no reason to stay in just gw2 and once they done they move on. hardcore gamers don’t give a kitten about cosmetic stuffs either.

so, i strongly believe the tryhard casual-hardcore players asked for it

looks like ts is very new to gaming community….

i play gw2 exactly because of the buy to play model. theres a lot of sub games out there and u can easily join one of them

ty and hav a great day.

cost effective can also means removing development wastage which in this case, anet has already made quite a number of development wastage by remaking maps etc.

the expansion profit margin muz be pretty low

anet killed guru, so yea.

constructive advise…

practice and practice and more practice……
to the point that it become a muscle memory
dont keep changing path, keep to one path
understand your character, how far your character can jump, how extreme your character can stand on the edge before falling, how high it can jump and by knowing those, you will then know where to position and jump without being too little or too much
don’t get caught up by other players’ pace and timing, maintain your own pace and timing
don’t hesitant to jump
finally, use a mouse or you can forget about completing it. period.

The rally change is interesting and makes blob busting more feasible.
The res in combat change is debatable, while to some it might seems like unfavorable for smaller zerg but to some it is unfavorable to bigger zerg. A bigger zerg will always have a higher chance of ressing a dead than a smaller zerg so I believe it affect the bigger zerg more than the smaller zerg.

All bounties are bugged, so, don’t bother doing any bounty mission.
Guild rush workaround is to find a new instance.
Guild puzzle is nothing major, even late comer who just enter 5 minute later and stuck at the entrance will still be given commendation when guild completes it.

I like PvE missions because you actually doing something you don’t normally get to do but the effort / reward is really bad for PvE. WvW can easily be done in an hour, PvP is comparable to PvE in effort / reward but some PvP missions can be more demanding in manpower than PvE. The different missions type need to be balanced in terms of effort / reward.

ERmmm……

Your idea of P2W is so very different from mine, which gaming era did you come from?

I find it absurd and laughable that you are complaining that you are not able to access expansion content while not wanting to pay for the expansion content. Self-entitlement is too strong.

If you haven’t noticed, quite a lot of people are grinding the jp for gifts, if they can do 15 jumps per 30min, I am sure you can get 3 jumps eventually.

Kamui.3150:

Hi Gaile, thanks for this info, it’s a huge relief for me and anyone else trying to complete the Winter’s Presence shoulders. However, I do have a few questions that I would like to ask, and hope you have the answers to.

• Will the candy cane achievement be given similar treatment? It’s not required for the shoulders, but it’s still one that is on a similar progression scale as Festive Imbiber.

• Will FI and the candy cane achievement progress the Wintersday meta after Jan 12? This is mainly a curiosity thing, am interested to know if the meta achieve will be locked after Jan 12 is over, even though anyone that really wants the meta won’t need it.

• Will FI and the candy cane achievement’s progress carry to next Wintersday, similar to the Grawnk ones did from last year? Just another curiosity deal.

This!

4 weeks is a assumption base on previous year
not sure about this year, anet did not mention anything yet…..

im farming 1k bags per day incase is 2 weeks =(

no longer drop this year, no more free tools =(

Sometimes, the rolling balls are invisible.

If you manage to cross the invisible ball quickly at the entry to the next platform, you will notice stucked ball. The stucked ball will then come down from that stucked location.

I am not sure if the invisible ball and the stuck ball are related.

Unfortunately, I disagree. After reading the part about “Guild Wars 2 is a video game”, it has become obvious to me that TS does not understand that video games have a lot of genres.

Guild Wars 2 belong to the MMORPG genre and all MMORPG are known to have grind contents so when you or anyone decided to play MMORPG, they should have be prepared to grind for things one way or another. People can complain about certain items are overpriced while using existing items as guidelines but to complain about grind itself in a MMORPG is stupid. No people in the position capable of making changes will bother to respond if the complain is about grind.

Honestly, if people complain in a more reasonable and logical manner, it will be more well-received. Take for example if people phrase it this way, 10,000 drinks are a little too much given that wintersday will end in (2 or 4 weeks time) as compare to legendary which you can take your time to grind for while legendary have substantial use for it but winter’s presence is just a skin yet cost way more efforts (due to limited time frame) than legendary, thus the item is obviously overpriced.

As for people who for some reasons not able to complete JPs, be it medical or simply bad at JPs. They can always ask their friends to play their account to complete for them. Yes, it is against the TOS and if anet do ban people for helping others then it is better to just find a new game, you can point a middle finger at anet while doing so.

yea….plz fix this…
is always full and kicking people out

When will the wintersday end?

4 weeks or 2 weeks? Can a dev confirm?

10k is do-able but it also depends when the wintersday end, how many hours should be spent grinding before it end.

skill lag in wvw can be annoying….is a step away from death

Astralporing.1957:

SkyShroud.2865:

Astralporing.1957:

SkyShroud.2865:

The livestream already made it really clear that it is balanced around 10 players

Har har har. At the same time when they give out their estimated values to max a guildhall, those happen to be the minimum times (the ones gated by aetherium). No, 10-man guilds will not be able to upgrade even close to the rate given. Again, what they say and what they do don’t match.

6 to 9 months is the minimum? Really? Some guilds already reach level 40 within a month, you really think it takes 6 to 9 months to upgrade to max?

Yes, those guilds that got to level 40 first already mentioned they have another approximate 4 months of queues till they max everything (based on aetherium production). (link here). So, Anet’s predictions were pretty much spot-on.

If you look at the comment below of that comment, that guy did a math and says it takes 5 months at optimal speed. 1 month extra for margin of error like forgetting to upgrade and so on. So, really 6 months? Nope.

Astralporing.1957:

SkyShroud.2865:

The livestream already made it really clear that it is balanced around 10 players

Har har har. At the same time when they give out their estimated values to max a guildhall, those happen to be the minimum times (the ones gated by aetherium). No, 10-man guilds will not be able to upgrade even close to the rate given. Again, what they say and what they do don’t match.

6 to 9 months is the minimum? Really? Some guilds already reach level 40 within a month, you really think it takes 6 to 9 months to upgrade to max? The interviewee himself too is unsure the optimal upgrading speed which is why he gave a 6 to 9 months range. The 2nd poster in the thread already mentioned his guild reached 31 with 5-7 people contributing. You just simply refuse to accept that the cost is indeed balanced around 10 people, or is it because you hate the fact that you need to part large amount of your personal wealth into a guild which just means that you place yourself above your guild.

I was like many others, I was skeptical about 10 person able to get it within 6 to 9 months. Then, seeing guilds of those size, one by one coming out and saying they are doing well, I decided to do some maths and logical assumptions. It is indeed possible for 10 person to max a guild hall within 6 to 9 months but on other hand, it is also not logical to do so since many of the upgrades are impractical and ridiculously overpriced despite being impractical, specifically the arena upgrades which is a major mats dump. Chances are, most people are just gonna upgrade what they need and stop at there. However, there will always be people, like yourself, who simply wants everything even if you have no use for 3/4 of the things.

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

Beldin.5498:

zxstanyxz.8769:

I want OpenGL not DX12! give us OpenGL!!!!

And i want Glide .. 3dfx Vodoo cards were so much better than NVidia crap at
their times

SkyShroud.2865:

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

im not greedy

i only want anet to have multi core support, the rest can wait

They have multicore support, only not for more than 4 cores.

nope is only two cores and anet staff already verified that the game indeed is badly optimized to the point that even though it appear to be utilizing two cores, a lot of the things are done on one thread thus it is mainly one core that doing the job.

also…multi cores as in…cpu scaling

gw2 was developed in the old era that still uses 2 cores….
however, dev can no longer keep using two cores as the core speed no longer increases, what continue to increase is the number of cores we have on our processor. even intel made a statement to all game dev to start using the cores and not depend on single core performance, i guess intel also reaching their limit on single core performance

Just take a look into your task manager. If only 2 cores are used a i5 would not
even run at 50%.

……
Since when i5 has hyper threading to 8 cores. You sure you know your stuffs?

50% of 4 are 2 .. don’t know why its 8 for you.

Seriously, are you even reading your comment? You even quoted your own comment. This is exactly what you wrote yourself If only 2 cores are used a i5 would not even run at 50%.

/facepalm

Also, you are the one that said gw2 is capable of using up to 4 cores.

/facepalm2

I really don’t understand what you want from me .. is my english just that bad ?

4 cores = 100% .. 3 cores uses = 75% .. 2 cores used = 50% .. 1 core = 25%

Of course that means those cores are used to 100% each.
Now if one core runs at 100% and 3 at 50% thats 25 + 3 * 12,5 = 62,5% and that
is already more than what is possible with just using 2 cores.

So hard to understand for you ? Or whats your problem with me ?

And since you also quoted the 3DFX thing, that has nothing to do with all
the above, i really start to believe ist personal and you are stalking me.

/facepalm
Let me quote every single thing then.

Beldin.5498:

They have multicore support, only not for more than 4 cores.

SkyShroud.2865:

nope is only two cores

Beldin.5498:

Just take a look into your task manager. If only 2 cores are used a i5 would not even run at 50%.

It is alright if you just admit that you have no idea what you are talking about instead of trying hard to correct your own words. For every comment you try to correct yourself, you contradict your initial responses, that is like own self slapping own face.

Astralporing.1957:

SkyShroud.2865:

anet for the record did mentioned that it takes 10 person (iirc) to max a guild hall in 6 months.

Remember it correctly – that was about favour and aetherium, not material costs. And it’s the same regardless of size.
It was not the expected time to max a guild (for a guild of 10), but the fastest possible time.
Mats are still balanced around large guilds’ farming capability, while completely ignoring that a majority of the guilds are not that big.

………… People really need to stop being delusional that anet balanced it around 500 people. Anet placed aetherium and favor cap to cap the large guild thus, it is kitten obvious that if the mats is truly balanced at 500, there’s no reason to place those cap. The fallacy is really strong.

http://dulfy.net/2015/10/02/gw2-guild-week-day-4-livestream-qa/

The livestream already made it really clear that it is balanced around 10 players, as for what type of 10 players, one can easily guess a normal regular player who don’t afk and thinks that guild hall will magically upgrade itself.

Beldin.5498:

zxstanyxz.8769:

I want OpenGL not DX12! give us OpenGL!!!!

And i want Glide .. 3dfx Vodoo cards were so much better than NVidia crap at
their times

SkyShroud.2865:

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

im not greedy

i only want anet to have multi core support, the rest can wait

They have multicore support, only not for more than 4 cores.

nope is only two cores and anet staff already verified that the game indeed is badly optimized to the point that even though it appear to be utilizing two cores, a lot of the things are done on one thread thus it is mainly one core that doing the job.

also…multi cores as in…cpu scaling

gw2 was developed in the old era that still uses 2 cores….
however, dev can no longer keep using two cores as the core speed no longer increases, what continue to increase is the number of cores we have on our processor. even intel made a statement to all game dev to start using the cores and not depend on single core performance, i guess intel also reaching their limit on single core performance

Just take a look into your task manager. If only 2 cores are used a i5 would not
even run at 50%.

……
Since when i5 has hyper threading to 8 cores. You sure you know your stuffs?

50% of 4 are 2 .. don’t know why its 8 for you.

Seriously, are you even reading your comment? You even quoted your own comment. This is exactly what you wrote yourself If only 2 cores are used a i5 would not even run at 50%.

/facepalm

Also, you are the one that said gw2 is capable of using up to 4 cores.

/facepalm2

Gw2 try to redefine the meaning of grind.

Honestly, I prefer the old school of grinding, at least you build bonds with people you grind with. Here, not so much.

Got some time so decided to reply properly.
Seeing that you talking about price/ratio and so on, I think you are conscious about $$. So, I guess you want a DIY that can last you for awhile and at the same time, if require to, upgrade part by part for future need.

Casing: Fractal Design R5 – $110~
You can get cheaper casing but personally, I like silent casing and also prefer casing that will last for long term. My current casing is like 10 years already. This casing is good and has a lot of room to play around, I think lasting 10 or even 20 years is possible.

PSU: Seasonic X650 – $110~
Good PSU, you wouldn’t want a PSU that goes boom, right? I also doubt you are gonna OC or have dual gfx, so 650 is more than enough. If all goes well, this PSU should last you for 10 years. Warranty 7 years iirc.

RAM: DDR4 16gb (2×8gb) – $75~
Games are demanding more memory as years go by, 16gb should be good for now and couple of years. With 16gb, you can turn off your virtual memory as well. As usual, limited lifetime warranty.

Motherboard: MSI H170 Gaming Pro – $120~
“H” if you not OCing or using dual GFX. “Z” for otherwise.

Processor: i5-6600 – $220~

Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper T2 – $18~
You can buy water cooler as well but then again, if you are gonna need water cooling which often to do some crazy OC, you should be knowledgeable enough to seek advise in a more tech geek forums.

SSD: Samsumg 850 Pro 256gb – $140~
850 pro seems to be pretty great in the benchmark and comes with 10 years warranty. Some people might argue SSD is unnecessary but screw that, your daily PC experience will be so much better with SSD.

HDD: Western Digital Black 2TB – $120~
For storage need like videos, songs, work files, download folders etc. Only put applications in SSD while all other craps in storage drive because SSD lifespan will drop if too much writing going on. 5 years warranty iirc.

Graphic: Radeon R9 380 – $210~

Monitor: DELL IPS LED 23" or 24" – $170~

CD/DvD Drive: $13~

Total: $1300~ (Excluding any additional casing fans)

It is over your budget by $200 which if you want to, you can cut cost here and there. PSU can easily cut by half but it is very important not to buy completely crap PSU that only provide very basic safety circuitry and may not be suitable for gaming rig. You can buy a cheaper SSD but this one is 10 years wararnty, think about it. You can buy a cheaper motherboard, can cut about almost half there. You can buy a 1TB instead of 2TB storage. You can cut the casing cost but risk giving up future expansion. Also, depending where you buying from, they might bundle up processor and motherboard so you might get a cheaper deal.

EDIT: I just re-read your requirements. You need a windows too and 90% running at 60fps of the time which means you will need an i7. i7 and a window will go way out of your budget.

again….and again….and again…….

quit misinforming people that anet balance the guild hall with 500 people as basis
anet for the record did mentioned that it takes 10 person (iirc) to max a guild hall in 6 months. the target highest guild hall level is 80, current is around 70. however, looking at the upgrades, most small guilds wouldn’t even use 3/4 of them.

if u recruit a group of leechers into your guild, then suck it up or kick the leechers out of ur guild or force them to contribute or make them feel guilty or whatever. gw2 is made up of large number of leechers anyway.

sirsquishy.8531:

SkyShroud.2865:

Jitsuryoku.9038:

SkyShroud.2865:

overclocking is effective for amd but not so for intel, there isn’t a noticeable difference when u oc intel for gw2

If you have a CPU that meets recommended system requirements you should feel no change at all – intel or amd. If your AMD cpu shows a performance boost in GW2 when overclocking then either your cpu is slow to begin with or it’s too loaded by other programs.

The topic author is running a 4 core i5 at 3.7ghz (default clock). I’m surprised anyone even considers suggesting he actually overclocks or upgrades to improve GW2 performance….

Until recently I was running a somewhat old i7 2.4GHz and GW2 showed no significant performance difference when i switched to a 4.0ghz default clock (no change in settings and settings were in medium range – not the highest).

Anet did not provide any recommended system requirements thus what you say base on that doesn’t apply. Where did you come up with your own set of recommended requirements btw?

A benchmark test on guild wars 2 for processors have already been done during the launch and it clearly show that amd has significant performance gain when you OC it while intel do not have any gain worthy of note. The reason for that is simple, anyone who has basic understanding on the difference between intel and amd will be capable of telling you that intel has a higher single core performance than amd.

LOL WUT?!

https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/25390756-Minimum-System-Requirements

Windows® Minimum System Requirements

Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or better
Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3 OR AMD Athlon 64 X2, or better
2 GB RAM
NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800, ATI X1800, Intel HD 3000, or better (256 MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
25 GB available HDD space
Broadband Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse

Mac Beta Minimum System Requirements

Mac OS®X 10.7.X or later
Intel® Core™ i5 or better
4 GB Ram or better
NVIDIA® GeForce® 320M, ATI Radeon™ HD 6630M, Intel HD 3000 or better
25 GB available HDD space
Broadband Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse

Minimum requirement is different from recommended requirement. Seriously, stop posting to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

Jitsuryoku.9038:

SkyShroud.2865:

overclocking is effective for amd but not so for intel, there isn’t a noticeable difference when u oc intel for gw2

If you have a CPU that meets recommended system requirements you should feel no change at all – intel or amd. If your AMD cpu shows a performance boost in GW2 when overclocking then either your cpu is slow to begin with or it’s too loaded by other programs.

The topic author is running a 4 core i5 at 3.7ghz (default clock). I’m surprised anyone even considers suggesting he actually overclocks or upgrades to improve GW2 performance….

Until recently I was running a somewhat old i7 2.4GHz and GW2 showed no significant performance difference when i switched to a 4.0ghz default clock (no change in settings and settings were in medium range – not the highest).

Anet did not provide any recommended system requirements thus what you say base on that doesn’t apply. Where did you come up with your own set of recommended requirements btw?

A benchmark test on guild wars 2 for processors have already been done during the launch and it clearly show that amd has significant performance gain when you OC it while intel do not have any gain worthy of note. The reason for that is simple, anyone who has basic understanding on the difference between intel and amd will be capable of telling you that intel has a higher single core performance than amd.

overclocking is effective for amd but not so for intel, there isn’t a noticeable difference when u oc intel for gw2

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

im not greedy

i only want anet to have multi core support, the rest can wait

They have multicore support, only not for more than 4 cores.

nope is only two cores and anet staff already verified that the game indeed is badly optimized to the point that even though it appear to be utilizing two cores, a lot of the things are done on one thread thus it is mainly one core that doing the job.

also…multi cores as in…cpu scaling

gw2 was developed in the old era that still uses 2 cores….
however, dev can no longer keep using two cores as the core speed no longer increases, what continue to increase is the number of cores we have on our processor. even intel made a statement to all game dev to start using the cores and not depend on single core performance, i guess intel also reaching their limit on single core performance

Just take a look into your task manager. If only 2 cores are used a i5 would not
even run at 50%.

……
Since when i5 has hyper threading to 8 cores. You sure you know your stuffs?

this is what happen when you put a game into super carebear mode
ppl can just abuse each other without any repercussions

Beldin.5498:

SkyShroud.2865:

im not greedy

i only want anet to have multi core support, the rest can wait

They have multicore support, only not for more than 4 cores.

nope is only two cores and anet staff already verified that the game indeed is badly optimized to the point that even though it appear to be utilizing two cores, a lot of the things are done on one thread thus it is mainly one core that doing the job.

also…multi cores as in…cpu scaling

gw2 was developed in the old era that still uses 2 cores….
however, dev can no longer keep using two cores as the core speed no longer increases, what continue to increase is the number of cores we have on our processor. even intel made a statement to all game dev to start using the cores and not depend on single core performance, i guess intel also reaching their limit on single core performance

thread digger……

try this
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/GW2-is-No-Longer-a-Refuge

whatever you guys are continuing arguing, it is already debated in that thread.

im not greedy

i only want anet to have multi core support, the rest can wait

Riku.4821:

And I am sick of bad drivers and lower performance for a still high price.

that is not true.
it depends when you buy the graphic cards and what graphic cards you have bought
ati price/performance beat nvidia at similar launch date until nvidia do a price slash. it really depends on the market and time when you purchase the graphic cards.

ati new driver is pretty smooth,. according to some netizen and articles, ati driver is more matured than nvidia but nvidia beat ati by optimising the hardware to perform well in specific area. to do so, naturally nvidia enhanced something while reducing something from the hardware to maintain the pricing.

michelada.2947:

just avoid an AMD procesor and you are fine

this.

gw2 isn’t optimized for multi cores and likewise for some other games. so u will need a high single core performance processor to run them which in this case is intel. unless u wanna wait for next year Q4 and see if amd makes any major breakthrough with their new zen processor

monitor wise, it depends on how big you want the monitor to be….
basic specs will be IPS LED, max refresh 60,

rumors have it that servers will be scrapped and replaced by a new system…

Khezekiah Bellamy.5016:

Everyone still thinks you are supposed to maintain complete reign over their homeborder and as such people are complaining how they want to be able to have waypoints in all the keeps regardless of who owns it.
It seems people can’t handle adapting to the superior play-style of fighting over a 3rd of each map and pushing objectives near your 3rd of the zone.
If for example you are on blue team and goto the Red Desert Borderland, you should capture and maintain the keep and tower nearest spawn then work toward the next closest towers either pushing into the bottom green corner or pushing into the top red section.

regarding your topic title….

not sure about others but not for me.
the problem with the new borderland is that it is really big, bigger than the old borderland. the fact that anet even moved the tower wp into the keep already show that they understand that it is really big.

anet did not design the borderland with a understanding of the reality, they simply want something “cool” but being "cool and “practical” are really different. honestly, i don’t mind if they make a bigger maps but on the conditions that more people are allowed into the map and provided that these servers actually have the people to sustain those map size. i don’t even mind they remove all the wvw maps and merge it into one massive map while increasing the map pop but they cant do that due to technical limitation or should i say, poor optimization.

tldr: basically, the changes must be practical but anet obviously did not factor in that when making those changes.

ermm……. /shrugs
thats the risk when come to trading…not?

Draygo.9473:

Dejavu.2349:

Kulvar.1239:

20 member guild with 10 active members
We just unlocked the last building upgrade
One man guilds are not guilds.

This means nothing to me without more information.
Exactly what upgrades do you have open? I’m genuinely curious – not trying to be snarky. The last upgrade (Weaponsmith 2, for the Market, for instance) for what buildings?

Or do you mean you’ve just opened up all your buildings (which is easy-peasy by my standards)?

And did anyone put in any real cash?

Probably means finished the last building, not the last building upgrade.

The last upgrade requires guild level 40 which I think only one or two guilds have reached at this point.

Something to add about the level 40, it isn’t the max level, just the highest level requirement to for the upgrades. A fully upgraded guild hall easily exceed level 40.

Hi devs,

Please add the above to the permissions setting. Since it cost nothing to activate missions, naturally, everyone were given permissions to do it so they can get the easy missions at their own pace. The down side to that is that some people will switch the preference (while having no idea what they are doing).

given that theres 2k favor cap per week…
that low number of guild attributes
that amount of favors in the screenshot

did u upgrade all the cheap favor/exp ratio upgrades just to get lvl 40?

no, you are not the oldest, i have seen ppl in the 70s playing

while you are at it…
do u mind changing guild rush to instance OR make guild rush crediting works for all the guilds that participate in it regardless which guild started it like pre-hot?

black desert is gonna be buy-to-play and since it seems to be more hardcore than gw2, with how gw2 is now – bad designs, plannings and such…..u will see a number of remnants of the hardcore players leaving for it. casuals wont be going for black desert and thus naturally many gw2 players never heard of it

theres already multi-gaming guilds branching into crowfalls….
gw2 or should i say anet can no longer take it for granted that they can continue to survive due to being the only value to play b2p title since many more b2p titles are coming out.

anet no longer has any rooms to perform their experiments and keep screwing players up.

ermm….

a NA guild that is active during a SEA/OCX prime…..
/shrug

TLDR.

HOT didn’t change the community, the community already changing way before HOT but just that people too oblivious to the small changes and can only see the accumulated changes.

Dresdoe.7503:

Sorry I read the first page and I read the first post on the 10th page and it seems the majority of you are oblivious to the main concern of the OP

They had achieved access to content previous to HoT, they paid money expected to achieve access to more content, only to find out that they in fact had lost the progress they already had.

They then continued to express their concerns that making people pay for content in game that they had already earned in game is wrong, it is almost as bad if not worse than resetting a level 80 characters experience and making them level up again from scratch.

If you think the argument here is whether small guilds should have handicaps then you have missed the point entirely and would be better off not sharing your opinion.

Nah, TS is partly responsible for the small guilds argument if you look through the posts.

knew that their old devs left but just don’t know how many remains

not supirisng actually, given that the game itself has shown a lot of hints how bad the overall planning is despite how much potential the game had, just do not know why the planning is this bad and i guess we got some hints as of why now