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This is mostly just showing off what I could do for signet of restoration with an absurd amount of healing power. Do not take this in any way serious or viable, but kitten it’s pretty fun.
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Yeah, I’m pretty sure nobody who plays ele would object to Diamond Skin being taken away and replaces. Not sure what everyone is arguing about, it’s pretty awful for everyone involved.
I don’t care about diamond skin being changed or taken away, but you have to remember we took some pretty moderate nerfs when we got diamond skin.
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negativeview, what you seriously fail to understand is that most condition specs arent balanced. condi spec beats everything. Glass cannons and bunkers can just go home, condi wins on equal skill levels all the time. Thats the truth. Anet wants to change that.
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Well boohoo, eles are no longer guaranteed free kills for condi theives/necros/and engies. Sorry if i don’t feel sympathy for any of them. Time to adapt and change your build and playstlye the same way eles have been forced to do over and over again JUST to remain mediocre after non stop nerfs in every single patch while other classes recieve ridiculous buffs. Guess you’ll have to spend longer than 2 seconds now to try kill an ele with mindless condition spam.
I like how at first people thought I was a necro then started attacking the class. Now that I play a thief and Spvp engi people are attacking those classes now. Lets stop with the ridiculous class insults and start focusing on DS.
Yes people, I know there are D/D thieves that can kill you easily. I don’t play a D/D DPS thief, and if it eles need more balancing in that aspect then so be it, but lets focus on Diamond Skin against Condi classes, as this topic was originally about, not Ele vs DPS thief.
So what in the F—k is the difference between a d-skin ele not dying to your cheese condi spam and a thief pressing 5 for cloak and dagger to run away..??!?!?!?!?!! both are not going to die if they dont want to. I don’t see the problem. Nerf D-skin, then nerf stealth and mobility. For once we get a half-way decent survivability tool and you jump down the throat of it as if stealth and 3 health pools WERENT op at all.
How are you comparing stealth to immunity to damage? Hmm lets give thieves immunity to condis while they are in stealth because that would be the same thing as the current state of diamond skin.
Let’s get this straight. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to abuse stealth to reset fights or stay alive and avoid damage. “DAMAGE” IS NOT CONDITION DAMAGE. DAMAGE IS DAMAGE. CONDITION DAMAGE IS CONDITION DAMAGE.
Yes, condition immunity is perfectly fine in this game because complete condition builds do ludicrous amounts of damage while stacking bunker stats. How are you going to be a condition build and say diamond skin is ‘cheese’ or ‘too strong’ when in reality anyone who runs a condition build is full of cheese and too strong. Glass cannons do nearly the same amount of damage as condi specs but they are nothing when it comes to defense.
If you run condition specs, that means you are stacking BUNKER stats. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RISK OF RUNNING INTO DIAMOND SKIN SPECS OR AUTOMATED RESPONSE SPECS IF YOURE GOING TO RUN CHEESE CONDI META
Thieves have: Built in evades everywhere, built in blinds everywhere, built in stealth everywhere, no cooldowns.
Elementalists have: Double the weapon skills (which are accompanied by ludicrous cooldowns, sub-par quality and effectiveness). If you don’t trait for water healing, you literally only heal for 800 health every time you go into water (ASSUMING YOU CAST YOUR HEALS).
Don’t you dare compare diamond skin to some made up trait to where “everytime thieves go stealth they should have condi immunity”. That is NO WHERE NEAR the same state as diamond skin.
Why are you even complaining anyway? You revive an old thread from 2 months ago. No eles even use diamond skin. Insert jackie chan meme.
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So, you just want a profession that is guardian/warrior every 5 min?…
I’d rather them the current professions before doing anything like this.
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Why are you declaring what the best specs for 1v1 in the game are? And you are saying this with such indignation that it seems like some noob told you off somewhere in wvw… Any spec can beat any spec, period. There is no best spec. Might be a hard pill to swallow but you just need to drink some water with that.
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I don’t understand all the QQ from Ele’s about ‘’weakest class’’ or whatever. Maybe it’s time you learn to play your class?
We’re very viable in PvE and WvW. In PvE with the current zerker meta we’re one of the biggest damage dealers because of our lightning hammer spec + FGS elite skill. In WvW a D/D ele is a very good harassment on enemy ranged and a Staff Elementalist, which I play on a high level WvW, is very good at dealing damage. When I use my meteor shower + tornado combo I can hit the enemy melee ball for around 6-8k and I crit 10k or higher on medium/light armored classes. We got so much amazing CC, gust is an exception, which gives good staff Elementalists the mechanics to control the ground warfare. You can make enemy zergs regroup if you hit the right rotation to reach the maximum damage output, you can block them from going somewhere or atleast make them blow their cooldowns of stability and protection so they won’t have it for the next dance when your melee leaps in. We got 3 cantrips of which 2 are stunbreakers and all 3 are very good for surviving. We got very good condition cleanse methods and a kitten ton of CC to keep harassment away from us. Maybe it’s time for people to learn the mechanics of counter classes like thieves, mesmers and warriors so you know what to DODGE and when you gotta use your cantrips wisely? It really annoys me how many players can’t play Elementalist and would like the most ridiculous OP changes. Do you want your full hp replenished when you go into water attunement? 2k extra armor when you go into earth? 25 instant might stacks for 30seconds when you change into fire? Cause it definately seems like some of you, not everyone, needs those changes to be viable on an Elementalist.
I don’t understand all the QQ. Ofc I’d like to see some things change like the cooldown of Armor of Earth, but oh wait, they’re already reducing it from 90s to 75s!
For all the PvPers out there, I DO agree with you. We’re very underpowered in PvP and that’s where the QQ should be about. About PvE and WvW? Hell no.
- For people interested, here’s my staff Elementalist build; http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQFAWhEmmbyR4QlDAkHucCLiCWUeszM2A-jkCBoiAkFA5mFRjtqpIasabYqXCy6XJ1aOwmzZ1gORSBExyI-w *
I sometimes switch in Assassin’s staff for a zerker staff depending on the situation cause I’m well-aware of the scaling on staff and why not to use an Assassin’s staff, but nonetheless it really works out for me.
Please note that I did not even post 20% of the potential Elementalists have in WvW.
But if you look on every other profession’s forum area you will see the same ludicrous suggestions for their profession too. You are getting mad for no reason.
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Base speed is equal on all classes. But all professions are able to enhance their movespeed with either signets, boons such as swiftness, teleports/leaps and rush skills.
Warrior has the fastest landspeed out of all classes (Not counting ele with fiery GS)
Warriors are still faster than FGS eles. And thieves are on top. (I’ve raced MANY times on my thief vs a sword/warhorn/gs warrior. I, as the thief, outran those wars by a LOT)
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i completely agree with op. immob stacking can get ridiculous. Ive personally maxed out at 10 seconds of immob from a venom share. a 10 second stun is ludicrous. Just like the op said, fix this. only one stack of immob should be allowed.
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1- Make elemental attunement baseline , with the trait making it aoe to your team mates.
2- Revert RTL. The range nerf alone was enough, it was overdone by doubling the cooldown.
3- Fix focus. Water attunement and fire attunement specifically.
If all 3 of these things actually were changed, ele would be very balanced.
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I think actually that stealth should be removed from you if you take more than 15 or 20 % of your maximum health. (while buffing thieves in other ways ofc) Mesmers could deal with this as its not really going to kill them. PU mesmers need some sort of nerf anyway. Removing stealth in such a way shouldnt apply reveal though.
I completely disagree that 1 damage should remove stealth from somone, but a certain percentage however should be acceptable.
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And then all other utilities were never used ever again. yay! diversity!
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Dude, this makes no sense!! You want to nerf everything about scepter burst, yet, this is the ONLY viable thing we have in high end pvp (where it still isn’t as accepted as other things) just because it’s burst is instant? You want it nerfed nerfed nerfed, because, why not? Ele’s are almost out of the game as it stands, this would be THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN!!! You want a counter to this burst? FIND THE ELE AND SIMPLY SNEEZE ON HIM, (wow really?) yes, really. He dies from a sneeze!!! No stealth, 10k health, nearly no mobility, lowest armor, no blind spam, no clones, no deathshroud!! Killing a burst s/d ele is THE EASIEST THING TO KILL IN THE GAME!
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I have been using focus in PvE lately and I agree that its fire skills are laughable, while its water skills also need a boost in some way. I can understand why people do not use it in PvP, while you have 3 very good skills your focus is almost useless while those are on cooldown.
Off topic, regarding OP’s response to Iris, which I believe was entirely unfair:
The OP asked for opinions about the focus, he did not specify which area of the game.
snipI’m the op, and no, I did not ask for opinions. I stated my stand on focus, and then many many many many elementalists proceeded to agree with me. I then asked questions about focus which had nothing to do with PvE and WvW. It’s really unnecessary for you to cry out loud and make things up.
snipOP, with all due respect, in that case you have not made that clear in your opening post. Iris response is most certainly valid regarding the opening post, and she is certainly not making things up. I included the OP at my time of writing below for reference.
I believe you overlooked how general your opening post was if you truly meant to only get WvW and PvP perspectives on this. It does not state that you limit your scope to these game modes. As you can see, you also explicitly asked opinions with your question, to which Iris was directly responding in her first post. If you are not interested in this kind of answer I advise you to change the OP accordingly.
As we all know, there are only 3 / 8 skills inside the focus set that are acceptable. Earth 4+5 and air 4. All the other skills are completely lackluster. Make some noise, keep this thread bumped for a good time, we need focus to be buffed. cmon!!!
Side note – Question to ele players : Would you be okay if anet completely changed some of the focus’s skills? Or completely re-worked focus and gave it completely different skills? How about changing the other 5 lack luster skills? Which is water attune, fire attune, and 5 on air. MY ANSWER…………….
YES! (for all 3 questions it is a yes!!! a RESOUNDING yes!)
Again- Point of this thread is to make some noise, let us be heard, focus is reallly bad concerning the other 5 skills.
We aren’t even talking about focus anymore. You an iris brought up semantics and opinions. Clear signs you care much more about those than the subject.
What I’m trying to iterate really is that any opinions with regards to focus and PvE aren’t as important as opinions regarding focus in spvp and wvw. This is so because you can do anything in pve and get by well. You can’t however use anything(focus) in spvp or wvw and still get by well.
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The only two things really bad about focus in my opinion are Fire#5 and a chicken for legendary. I’d rather they just fix Fire#5 than screw the focus up all over.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
But… lol…. When is the last time you used focus? The focus for ele is beyond screwed, and even if they screw it up more (by some weird way..) thats better than nothing, cause, you know what, that tells me that the devs acknowledge the existence of focus.The focus is fine in PvE and dungeons. Those are the part of the game that I actively participate right now. I stand up for my opinion, instead of QQ.
um….. . . . . . everything is fine for pve and dungeons……. the amount of skill required for dungeons and pve is next to nothing. So of course you can say that.
Step foot in wvw or tpvp, and maybe, just maybe you will off the bat see whats wrong.
The OP asked for opinions about the focus, he did not specify which area of the game. I enjoy using the focus in PvE and Dungeons where it can be pretty challenge sometimes. You are clearly entitled to your opinion to say that no skills are required for dungeons and pve. But that’s a separate matter.
I’m aware that the current state of tpvp is stale for the elementalist in general, but focus finds its use in WvW well, both in a small group and a zerg.
That said, I’m good if they split up pvp and pve, and balance each part properly. It is really unnecessary to cry it out loud like you representing the whole elementalist community.
I’m the op, and no, I did not ask for opinions. I stated my stand on focus, and then many many many many elementalists proceeded to agree with me. I then asked questions about focus which had nothing to do with PvE and WvW. It’s really unnecessary for you to cry out loud and make things up.
Side note, no. Focus does not see any uses in wvw. You may as well have won the lottery if you find a focus-using ele in wvw. I shall admit focus has considerable uses in pve though.
My point is that you can use anything for pve and still get by. You CAN’T however use focus in pvp and get by. Enough said. Do you understand? Why would you even be disagreeing with any of us if its going to get focus buffed…..
Insert jackie chan meme.
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The moment Fire Aura changes is the time Focus becomes an attractive tool.
As it stands now, Fire Aura sucks.
yea i feel that if fire aura were changed to something like “gives you 2 might stacks per hit, .5s icd. 2s burning” with 30s cd and same duration, not only would ele be buffed as a whole but focus just get a whole lot better.
in other words, if this got changed to this DONT HIT ELES WITH FIRE AURA yay! or they gain an abnormal amount of might and will kill you. That should be a huge incentive to stop hitting you if they know what fire aura does.
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The only two things really bad about focus in my opinion are Fire#5 and a chicken for legendary. I’d rather they just fix Fire#5 than screw the focus up all over.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
But… lol…. When is the last time you used focus? The focus for ele is beyond screwed, and even if they screw it up more (by some weird way..) thats better than nothing, cause, you know what, that tells me that the devs acknowledge the existence of focus.The focus is fine in PvE and dungeons. Those are the part of the game that I actively participate right now. I stand up for my opinion, instead of QQ.
um….. . . . . . everything is fine for pve and dungeons……. the amount of skill required for dungeons and pve is next to nothing. So of course you can say that.
Step foot in wvw or tpvp, and maybe, just maybe you will off the bat see whats wrong.
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Glad to see this thread.
Conditions. They are the bane of elementalists. I can’t tell you the last time I lost a direct damage duel. But the time I lost a condition damage duel was recent. We have enough clears, but we virtually have to devote ourselves to clearing conditions.
I literally have 30 points invested just so I don’t have to worry as much about hybrid condi builds. And against bomb engineers, why even try as a d/d ele?
ether renewal? .. no? … “DEY RUPT MER ETHER.”
Oh, I use rock solid, just saying.
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Oh, the love was so strong.
In a meta we barely knew…
We had amazing times.
Before they went QQ.
Wars running left.
And thieves running right.
Too fast to see! Too fast!
And the eles were strong in the night.
We caught the dev’s eye…
“Too tanky. NERF”
“Too fast. NERF”
And then left to die…
Heartbroken, we understood the tank-nerfs…
Confused, we mis-understood the speed nerf…
Being jealous, we saw others get buffed…
Shelved and booked we went.
I rode the lightning, but I was blind.
BAM- 40 seconds.
I rode the lightning, but they evaded!
BAM- 40 seconds.
I rode the lightning, but they blocked!
BAM- 40 seconds.
I rode the lightning, but they were invulnerable!
BAM- 40 seconds.
It just wasn’t the same.
Please…. please….
Go back to 20 seconds…
Dev’s.. Please… It doesn’t make sense in this meta for RTL to be 40s.
Snares are predominant. And the range nerf alone was enough. 1600 range was too far, they couldnt snare us at that distance. And due to channel time, the effective distance gained is 900 now.
(in range of snaring abilities)…
Other professions got buffed… The fluidity of ele would open up again and it would be a revival of the profession towards acceptance in tpvp and wvw roaming.
Just. this. one. thing.
That’s it.
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the only way i will find ele fun again is if they buff focus really hard, or they revert rtl’s cooldown.
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The only two things really bad about focus in my opinion are Fire#5 and a chicken for legendary. I’d rather they just fix Fire#5 than screw the focus up all over.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
But… lol…. When is the last time you used focus? The focus for ele is beyond screwed, and even if they screw it up more (by some weird way..) thats better than nothing, cause, you know what, that tells me that the devs acknowledge the existence of focus.
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Hey guys, I know it’s really hard to discuss OP builds on these forums. Most responses come in the form of “trying doing this” or “try doing that”. “You should play this” or “you should play that”. This topic is for the people that believe PU mesmers are OP and would like to think of ways to balance them. If you want to post on strategies for fighting a PU mesmer, please create another topic and post there. This is not the place to discuss strategies.
I’m surprised no one has brought this up yet. In WvW, these guys can take camps with defenders and still kill everyone while being virtually immortal. I can’t say what exactly is is so OP about them, but everyone I talk to, even mesmers themselves, agree PU mesmers are quite OP. I don’t really know this build well and why it’s so strong, but I at least would like to know what other players think on this topic.
I do know what they are doing. I’ve read tips on how to deal with them, but they generally don’t really work. I don’t even know how to balance this properly, just wanted to start the discussion.
Well, what I’ve found is that AoE is key. Make sure you have cleansing too. It may be a bit biased since im an ele, and every skill i have is aoe, but i tend to not find them as much as a problem as you do.
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This skill is an elite skill that stuns for 1.5 seconds on a 45 second cd with a 1 second cast time. It also doesn’t stack with other stuns. The problem is it doesn’t measure up to other stuns let alone other elites.
Examples of better stuns:
-Signet of Domination (3 second stun, 45 second cd, 1200 range, is a signet, 1/4 second cast)
-Magic bullet (2 second stun, other effects on bounce, combo finisher, 900 range, 25 second cd)
-Static field (2 second stun, 40 second cd, 1200 range, combo field)
-Earthshaker(1-2 second stun based upon adrenaline, 600 range, 3/4 second cast, 10 second cd)
-skull crack(1-3 second stun, 10 second cd)
-Whirling strike(1-2 second stun, 10 second cd)Basilisk venom was fine as an elite when it was unbreakable, but as it is now, it’s meh as a stun and lacklustre as an elite (this is important as it’s thief’s only underwater elite).
I suggest either increasing the duration to 3 seconds, or reducing the cd to around 25-30 seconds.
i disagree completely. It’s an elite skill which extremely blows out every other one in terms of CD. kitten cd is amazing. the stun is at a good level, 1.5 isnt too little nor is it too high.
And i see almost every thief use it. Why buff something already widely used? so people can never use daggerstorm ever again? or thieves guild?
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Look, all of those are NICE ideas to re-balance thieves, however, why would you want to take the path of the ele? Where you are completely forced to take 1 or more traitlines due to how weak the other ones are?
Just as no ele in their right mind would go without arcana tree(somehow), no thief in their right mind would go without shadow arts tree(somehow) if this was actually implemented!
I like the ideas, but the traits aren’t the way. They could use a few changes, but not something that is going to pigeon-hole thieves into shadow arts like this.
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I’ve been playing a dagger/dagger diamond skin condi ele in tpvp (0/0/30/20/20 w/ settler’s, i.e., 3,200 armor and 600 hp passive regen per second).
I just thought I’d pop in and say I find this thread highly amusing….
Lol, don’t you like the 12k health in that build? And the wet noodle damage too?
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Yes, of course this class can survive more nerfs. It remains the best roaming wvw class, bar none, already.
Its already the least played class.
Least played? lol Go to wvw and roam a bit. 50% of solo-ers are still thieves. (bs’ed numbers, but its not that far off from 50%)
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When will the days of “I lost to a class, I better post a nerf in the forums”
ever go away?The flipside of your idea is “what could you have done different?”
You do a lot of assuming. lol. I’ve let go of my ele a few weeks ago and ive been playing thief nonstop. I’m destroying people …. ive got it up to 10s immob and it’s extreme cheese. It’s funny seeing engis and eles using their invuln for a pity 3s when the immob lasts 10s.
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lol no one is complaining about it now. It’s been over 3 weeks, like I said. People found counters, and no one uses the trait because of how weak it is. Its almost too easy to counter.
You guys made such a big deal about this weeks ago. And I love getting to say ‘i told you so.’
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It was a step in the right direction, but by all means it was way too situational to take seriously.
Notice all the necroes who were complaining about it the day it was released? lol i havent heard a peep from them since. funny if you ask me.
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the flamethrower applies a lot of burning already. achieving perma burning with the auto attack would just make it overpowered in pvp.
I agree that the flamethrower has a lot of skills that apply burning, however it is far from applying a lot of burning.
- Flame Jet – 1s burn on a 2.57 sec channel, no cooldown
- Air Blast – 2s burn duration added if target already burns on a 15 sec cooldown
- Napalm – in PvP 1s burn, in PvE a possible 10 sec burn if your target does not move, on a 30 sec cooldown,
- Incendiary Ammo – 9s burn on a 45 sec cooldown.
The only skill on flamethrower that applies a considerable burn is the toolbelt skill which funnily enough works without even equipping or slotting the kit. Even with increased burn duration and cooldown reduction it is hardly possible to keep burning up on a target in PvP with just the flamethrower.
Now for a comparison Elementalist:
- Drake’s Breath (dagger) – 12 sec burn, 2.25 sec channel 5 sec cooldown = perma burn
- Flamestrike (scepter) – 2 sec burn, 1.54 sec activation no cooldown = perma burn
Flamethrower’s #1 is one of the weaker autoattacks of the engineer, even with Deadly Mixture and the 10% bonus from a burning target and Retaliation is quite a nice counter to it.
Making it apply a burn that is only slightly longer than the channel duration would be far from overpowered in my opinion. It’s a flame thrower after all.
look im all for buffing the burning, i have an engi myself, but dont you dare compare things from profession to profession like that. It serves no basis for justifying the buff. We all might as well carry a stick that does 1 damage and everyone should have 10 health.
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He did show up here complaining nerf nerf nerf and he deserves what he got. Nothing wrong with devourer or venom share. It’s still not as strong as other builds.
Lol i didn’t, if you took the time to read the rest of my post you are probably going to say to yourself “oh… ok my bad”
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You guys make the thief community look bad.
The instant you see the word ‘nerf’ you stop reading and rage.
Maybe if you took a minute to read my post we COULD have a constructive conversation.
Most of you lack reading comprehension and go ape kitten when you see the word nerf.
Lol.
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
Thanks for the advice
Well hot diggidy dang, I lured you in pretty well, huh?
It might be due to some ego issues tho.
“Cannons can’t hurt me. I am a good player.”
Plus, I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.The only fights i could get were literally right outside your portals at SMC. Obviously you took advantage of that with your ability to run in the portals when you were low and shoot cannons at us. Even when there were 4 of you guys against another thief and I you pulled that. I guess you did bait me well with the amount of times you went down tohugh, so props to you!
The hypocrisy is strong in you.
You’re just the Masterbaiter.
I edited the last post right after I posted it. Lol wow you are quick to respond!!
You do a lot of chest thumping buddy.
It’s [phat], right?Edit: Oops caught you slippin again
Look at it this way, you’re gettin his abs ripped.
^ Kill me more, I work out. It’s a game anyways lol. But what i found hilarious is after all that, we got a fair fight and killed you. You got downed, and BAM what do i see. experience and a loot bag. lol. You’re a scrub dude, who rage quits and chest thumps in your 4v1’s you do. 1v1’s can’t be that hard to set up.
Fist pick was a group fight. Second pic was a 2v2. third pic was a 1v2. You never killed me though, nice try.
Well as i’m sure you remember, you and the two other thieves were there as well, since you were there. As i’m sure you also remember you trying to run away with shadowstep causing me to use my own to get to you and kill you. Obviously you are gonna try to play that off because “I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.”
Oh, there was two other thieves? … lol??? Okay dude. where are they at? like.. lol.. This is funny now you’re trying to make your 3v1’s justified XD
Ok ok i need a breather. You really just make me laugh.
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
Thanks for the advice
Well hot diggidy dang, I lured you in pretty well, huh?
It might be due to some ego issues tho.
“Cannons can’t hurt me. I am a good player.”
Plus, I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.The only fights i could get were literally right outside your portals at SMC. Obviously you took advantage of that with your ability to run in the portals when you were low and shoot cannons at us. Even when there were 4 of you guys against another thief and I you pulled that. I guess you did bait me well with the amount of times you went down tohugh, so props to you!
The hypocrisy is strong in you.
You’re just the Masterbaiter.
I edited the last post right after I posted it. Lol wow you are quick to respond!!
You do a lot of chest thumping buddy.
It’s [phat], right?Edit: Oops caught you slippin again
Look at it this way, you’re gettin his abs ripped.
^ Kill me more, I work out. It’s a game anyways lol. But what i found hilarious is after all that, we got a fair fight and killed you. You got downed, and BAM what do i see. experience and a loot bag. lol. You’re a scrub dude, who rage quits and chest thumps in your 4v1’s you do. 1v1’s can’t be that hard to set up.
Fist pick was a group fight. Second pic was a 2v2. third pic was a 1v2. You never killed me though, nice try.
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
Thanks for the advice
Well hot diggidy dang, I lured you in pretty well, huh?
It might be due to some ego issues tho.
“Cannons can’t hurt me. I am a good player.”
Plus, I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.The only fights i could get were literally right outside your portals at SMC. Obviously you took advantage of that with your ability to run in the portals when you were low and shoot cannons at us. Even when there were 4 of you guys against another thief and I you pulled that. I guess you did bait me well with the amount of times you went down tohugh, so props to you!
The hypocrisy is strong in you.
You’re just the Masterbaiter.
I edited the last post right after I posted it. Lol wow you are quick to respond!!
You do a lot of chest thumping buddy.
It’s [phat], right?Edit: Oops caught you slippin again
Look at it this way, you’re gettin his abs ripped.
^ Kill me more, I work out. It’s a game anyways lol. But what i found hilarious is after all that, we got a fair fight and killed you. You got downed, and BAM what do i see. experience and a loot bag. lol. You’re a scrub dude, who rage quits and chest thumps in your 4v1’s you do. 1v1’s can’t be that hard to set up.
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so about 10 other skills are in teh same boat. warriors can 1 shot an almost 6 second immob. thats more than devourer by alot. if u add the +30% from stats on time plus another 20% in weapons andanother 40% from food thats about 11 seconds of immob. learn the game before you openyour mouth kiddo. making your self look silly and just a L2P player.
@ OP
Get better? I need to learn to play? I look silly? Maybe when you learn to read… lol.
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You’re gimping yourself if you use venoms. They only work in venomshare builds which are already one trick pony kitten builds. There are far better utilities than venoms. If someone lets himself be immobilized for that long then he deserves it.
There’s a reason you very rarely even see these so called “venomshare” builds. They don’t even work in pve btw.
You know what really grinds me gears? It’s when people yell nerf whenever someone finds something on a thief that works. Whatever works for a thief is always OP it seems….. I say it’s bad players who can’t admit that they’re bad.
Youre entire post is invalid. I PLAY this spec and its flat out kittened.
Did you see those words?
I PLAY THIS SPEC.
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You guys are ridiculous. DID YOU EVEN READ THE REST OF MY POST…. It’s like you see the word nerf and have bowel movements.
Shut….. up… about warriors…. That is for their forum. YES THEY ARE OP… AND ITS BEING COMPLAINED ABOUT AS WE SPEAK….
Maybe for once you should try not evading the thread and just pouring it on warriors, and when that happens, the thief community MIGHT be a halfway decent one.
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
Thanks for the advice
Well hot diggidy dang, I lured you in pretty well, huh?
It might be due to some ego issues tho.
“Cannons can’t hurt me. I am a good player.”
Plus, I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.The only fights i could get were literally right outside your portals at SMC. Obviously you took advantage of that with your ability to run in the portals when you were low and shoot cannons at us. Even when there were 4 of you guys against another thief and I you pulled that. I guess you did bait me well with the amount of times you went down tohugh, so props to you!
The hypocrisy is strong in you.
You’re just the Masterbaiter.
I edited the last post right after I posted it. Lol wow you are quick to respond!!
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
Thanks for the advice
Well hot diggidy dang, I lured you in pretty well, huh?
It might be due to some ego issues tho.
“Cannons can’t hurt me. I am a good player.”
Plus, I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.The only fights i could get were literally right outside your portals at SMC. Obviously you took advantage of that with your ability to run in the portals when you were low and shoot cannons at us. Even when there were 4 of you guys against another thief and I you pulled that. I guess you did bait me well with the amount of times you went down tohugh, so props to you!
The hypocrisy is strong in you. Outnumber us all day, then hell yes I will take advantage of portals. Though I also think it’s pretty funny when you laugh on my other BP peeps when you 6v1 them. Props to you! ;D
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
Thanks for the advice
Well hot diggidy dang, I lured you in pretty well, huh?
It might be due to some ego issues tho.
“Cannons can’t hurt me. I am a good player.”
Plus, I’ve got good reason to stay back when you consistently outnumber us 2-1.
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Let us choose the minor traits. either have another pool to choose from, or choose from existing pool. Or anything else anyone wants to suggest. I think this game is being crippled by being forced to take the 5,15, and 25 traits.
Yes. It’s a game changer. It would be a positive one though.
Discuss!
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I can put 9s of immob on a target with this skill… That is ridiculous… and no one can cleanse it since i stack it with other venoms and about 6 other condis pop up with immob. Then the best part is is that when 9s runs comes close to running out, ill just spam body shot. (lol)
My suggestion- Remove immob completely and give it burning with cripple, or something like that. Maybe confusion, just hell, not immob. Its way too strong.
Edit—Burning is something you guys wouldnt mind, yea? It helps the thief out with a lacking condition and it gets rid of the 9s immob cheese tactic. Sorry that i need to make this more clear to people who didn’t care to read the post.
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Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
The cannons hurt more
Heed my suggestion. Read your combat log.
:)
Thief from [MU].. LOL.. I feel bad for you man. Ganking you over and over and over outside SM was fun. Those venom shares hurt don’t they. ;D
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Here’s to another week of roaming Blackwaters, perp engis, and GS warriors rushing away!
And here’s to a week of watching your members cower back to your mini zerg.
The hypocrisy is strong in this one.
You do a lot of chest thumping buddy.
It’s [ApeX], right?
You bet your kitten . Don’t even get me started on BP sitting in towers and siege. We can arrange a little brawl, if you’d like.
Edit: just saw who you’re in a party with, already know the outcome
No, no, it’s just that the very one doing the chest thumping and accusing is actually a hypocritical troll. I know very well that my server sits in towers and attacks with siege. But I don’t.. And you do.
Need I even say more.. lol. You just want attention. This is the last piece of attention I’m giving you.
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Here’s to another week of roaming Blackwaters, perp engis, and GS warriors rushing away!
And here’s to a week of watching your members cower back to your mini zerg.
The hypocrisy is strong in this one.
You do a lot of chest thumping buddy.
It’s [ApeX], right?
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Ok, thanks that really makes me feel better. they still havent gotten around to it but i have a feeling its because new years is a day away and they may/may not be working
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I play mesmer and i once again got instantly killed by an ele. He zapped at me and killed me with 2 sequential hits. I am not exaggerating here, 2 hits is all it took and they both occurred within a 0.5 sec time span. So what part of instagibbing, or in other words, a damage output that equals 23 k in 0.5 sec => 46 k/sec is not viable in pvp?
I wonder if you have ever heard of the phrase “one trick pony”.
Google it.
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