Guild Wars 2

Just had a thought…if running the Endure Pain trait and really worried about gap closing what about dropping EP off the utility slot and grabbing Throw Bolas for a short CD nice immobilize? It could be dodge, but so can bulls charge and that’s twice the cd.

It depends on who the bunker is…a good Ranger bunker is really difficult to burst down with all the healing and protection + high armor. I think I kill them easier on my Engi, but for everything else it seems to be great. I had to 1v1 a Mesmer and a Necro at the enemy treb in one of the matches and was able to kill and stomp both.

So far I have been pretty good with Mesmers. Endure Pain is great if I’m against a shatter spec, and all the reflect is really awesome vs the phantasm mesmers. When fighting a phant mesmer I try to save the blocks for as soon as the duelists start their unload and then it kills them for me.

I haven’t had much issue with the lack of Mace/Shield gap closer, 5s cooldown on swapping and GS mobility is great. A lot of times I whirlwind to my target, bladetrail to cripple then swap to Mace and shield bash.

Edit : I have been playing the build as the Roamer though, taking place of where a thief would maybe be in the comp. I’ll assault the enemy treb, assist anywhere needed and get there quickly with GS, ninja cap, etc. It’s extremely effective when you show up to a fight where people are already engaged and just drop someone, lock down the Necro with stuns, whatever.

I run the build a little bit different, this is my setup for tournament with the build right now. Ran it last night and out of ~10 matches, only one was lost. I didn’t die in a single match, being able to get as low as 1000hp and do one of my 2 full condi cleanses then whirling + rush away, heal, and rejoin fight with allies. I was top score and kills in most matches, this build makes for a NASTY roamer. Greatsword allowed me to move around the map faster than I have ever been able to as my Engi.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNApeRjgOtwBPyQMxBA0DsqarjClYSpYu6A-TsAA1CnIKSVkrITRyisFNgYVwEBA

Ran it tonight, did Lyssa and the 5% Sigil for GS instead. Worked very well, hardly noticed the damage drop and the extra full cleanse is awesome.

I did around 10 tournaments tonight with just 2 friends + randoms. We only lost one match the whole night and I had a few people tell me they hate me after I would show up and wreck everything then whirlwind away. A few Necros complimented how well we shut them down.

The build feels really strong to me, in fact I didn’t die in any of the tournament matches…I could get all the way down to 1000hp and then just do a full cleanse then whirlwind + rush away, heal then come right back and wreck stuff once an ally was engaged. Due to not dying in a single match, I’m going to swap the Sigil of Leeching off my Mace for Bloodlust.

Shadowtech.5071:

Velron.3729:

Engineer’s have a ton of blast finishers.

All turrets have blast finishers when detonated.

Shield 4

BoB

Supply Drop

Rumble tool belt for Thumper

Elixir gun 4 (one of 2 that shoot you out of field)

Rocket boots (the other one)

Are you aware that aside from maybe the Elementalist, that Engineer’s have the best access to comboing off their own fields?

(you could add SB thieves there with cluster bomb spam)

I guess the above poster is talking about a kit refinement type of ability towards our kits but with passive stat increases.

The part I was replying to was the part after he says Edit:

I agree with him on the kit thing, that makes sense. But needing more blast finishers we do not. It would be cool, but we definitely are not in need.

(I would throw my vote in for Rifle 5 being a blast finisher though, its animation looks like it destroys the ground but its not a blast – its silly)

Aberrant.6749:

As far as elixer S goes… it seems to be a stomp/escape elixer. Shrink/stability/stealth will all work for these functions… usually.

That being said… having reliable stability somewhere would be really really nice… doesn’t need to be on this utility… just… somewhere…

This, so much.

I’m pretty sure I’m not mistaken if I say we have the absolute worst access to stability. Hell even thieves can get it every 36-45seconds for 5+seconds with their super short CD ult and Lyssa runes.

No Elixir X doesn’t count because it puts me in some useless form where I can’t use any useful abilities.

Elixir S doesn’t count bc it is entirely luck if you get it.

Rumble gives…1s?

Perhaps this is one of the reasons I’ve been enjoying my Warrior more in sPVP lately even though its way harder to be super successful on it. At least when someone goes CC crazy on me I have the ability to activate stability. Which, especially with the amount of Necro spam going on currently, is very nice.

Engineer’s have a ton of blast finishers.

All turrets have blast finishers when detonated.

Shield 4

BoB

Supply Drop

Rumble tool belt for Thumper

Elixir gun 4 (one of 2 that shoot you out of field)

Rocket boots (the other one)

Are you aware that aside from maybe the Elementalist, that Engineer’s have the best access to comboing off their own fields?

(you could add SB thieves there with cluster bomb spam)

stefanplc.5234:

Velron.3729:

Been using the build in PVP with Soldier amulet w/ Zerker jewel and Bull’s Charge swapped out for Sig of Stamina due to Necro spam and its absolutely awesome. I run 5% crit sigil on the GS right now to get my base to 22% when on GS. Been dueling some guildies and a few of them are pretty determined to try to beat me now. They aren’t used to Warrior’s winning the duels, my Engi is one thing but not a Warrior lol

Highest 100b so far was on a Necro just out of DS, Skull Cracked into 15k 100b. Think a Ranger must have Hunter’s Shot or something for some big vuln stacks, was hilarious.

Try Superior Runes of Lyssa (drop all conditions gain all boons), they’re great vs professions that are big on conditions such as Engineers and Necromancers and the damage loss isn’t that big. If you’re playing in WvWvW make sure to use Superior Sigil of Impact on your GS! I’ve been practicing myself on dueling servers in sPvP and it does pretty well. I haven’t been able to win every fight but I think it’s mostly because I’ve made some mistakes. Overall though, it feels pretty strong.

This build also works much better in WvWvW than sPvP because you can get more damage there since you can change your stats however you want them but it’s still pretty strong in sPvP. I really like it too!

Interesting idea…I will give Lyssa runes and swapping the sigil for 5% damage instead a try tonight.

My WvW warrior would need a lot of gear before I could try it out, he’s basically just full PVT Hammer Sword/Horn CC/frontline pusher.

Jzaku.9765:

google.3709:

1 thing that people are forgetting, some warriors animations and “moves are crazy SLOW, with long cast times” but that’s because if they land it, it hurts a lot more than any other class.

People are forgetting that warriors are the DPS kings of the game. people complain alot about the cast time of 100B or that it roots you to the ground, but they seem to forget how much damage this skill does.

Other skill is i hear people complaining alot is “Final trust” but people who complain is hard to land, also forget to mention that if they land it on anyone under 50% its a 1 shot skill with the same damage as Eviscerate.

The biggest problem with warriors, is not the class itself but the players on it.. they wanna be DPS beast like they are on PvE, expecting to go glass cannon and own. players just need to learn to spec better, warriors now have good condi clears, and easy acess to stability and CC, which is a direct counter to most meta builds. but people rather not spend those 20 points on Defense and then come on forums and QQ about how much warriors suck on PvP

Thanks for once again trying to discredit Warriors by claiming we are all incompetent GC 100b noobs that want to faceroll.

And no Final Thrust doesn’t do eviscerate damage, nor does it “1 shot” since you have to be below 50% hp for double damage and it does maybe 6k damage on a glass cannon. Nor is it comparable to say Thief or Mesmer’s burst damage which is basically instant or AoE while doing comparable, if not more damage. Warrior’s damage in sPvP isn’t too hot compared to what other classes can do.

The damage of the skill, according to tool tip, is the same as a 3 bar eviscerate if the target is under 50%.

Also, MAYBE 6k on a glass cannon? You’re exaggerating to try to make a point, I know because I have had Final Thrust hit thieves for 8.8k. Over 7k is not uncommon.

JohnnyBoy.5471:

As a die-hard Necro, I’d be livid if they gave us a .5-1 second delay before marks became active. Yeah, marks have a lot going for them. BUT, we quite literally have to go 10 points into Death Magic for the Greater Marks trait (the trait that makes them so big), because its so much more difficult to hit with the little radius of the initial skill.

Also, you can dodge through marks (which is ridiculous). It’s Unblockable, sure. But if you’re in the dodge roll animation when you hit the mark, the damage and conditions are nullified.

I realize this, the problem though is most Necros do not place them ahead of time. They are placed directly beneath you where they trigger instantly and are unblockable.

That’s why I say there is no counter play. A short activation time would allow you to dodge out if your reaction time is good and you’ve saved your energy for the marks…which I would since the marks stack super long duration conditions that you MUST cleanse or die.

I can’t think of any other skills in the game that you cannot counter play by any means other than luck. And yes, just happening to be dodging when its placed under you would be defined as luck – not skill.

Edit – To clarify, I’m only wanting to see this implemented for PVP.

After watching the latest State of the Game sPVP with Jonathan Sharp and all the talk about how they want to make sure everything has counter play…I couldn’t help but think of traited Necro marks.

The area they cover is so large that really needing much skill to place them goes out the window, they have also become unblockable so blocking when you see a Necro pull out the staff is not a counter play option.

What do we do here? Dodging them is merely luck and/or guess work, since they detonate instantly upon being placed under you.

What I would suggest is the marks have maybe a 1 second delay on becoming “active” once placed, this gives the skilled player with quick reactions who saved his dodges for the marks the ability to have some counter play by quickly dodging out of the large mark before it actives and hits you with insane duration conditions or fear.

Or maybe someone can just tell me what the existing counter play to traited Necro marks is, I just don’t see it other than just dodging and running around while they have staff out in hopes they miss.

Been using the build in PVP with Soldier amulet w/ Zerker jewel and Bull’s Charge swapped out for Sig of Stamina due to Necro spam and its absolutely awesome. I run 5% crit sigil on the GS right now to get my base to 22% when on GS. Been dueling some guildies and a few of them are pretty determined to try to beat me now. They aren’t used to Warrior’s winning the duels, my Engi is one thing but not a Warrior lol

Highest 100b so far was on a Necro just out of DS, Skull Cracked into 15k 100b. Think a Ranger must have Hunter’s Shot or something for some big vuln stacks, was hilarious.

Speaking of how the build wrecks Necros – I did the burst combo back to back on a Necro yesterday. First one are all their full built DS, then the next one they were out and I hit them for a full 15k 100b. Some ranger must have used hunter’s shot or something, I was laughing.

Engineer definitely seems like it would have best chance to counter this in 1v1 (I main Engi since beta). Bombs are great and as mentioned BoB is cool but easily dodged and less useful in open fights like a 1v1 not contained to a capture point. Your strong bombs in 1v1 are burning – somewhat, smoke bomb – blind field hell yes, and concussion bomb – coupled with pry bar and static shot you can get 14 confusion stacks… Nasty.

Honestly I personally feel Flamethrower is a stronger 1v1 weapon. On tap instant AOE blind, 12s CD AOE knockback, nice long fire field and then #2 actually hits pretty hard with pass through + detonate damage. The auto from FT would also allow you to attack without fear of reflection whenever on Mace/Shield. Throw in tool kit to block bursts and stack confusion and a nice cripple field. Elixir gun also offers stun breaker on a relatively short CD, healing field, unblock able damage field, and a poison spray you can again use during mace/shield with no reflect worry.

What kind of build are you looking for?

Your opening statement is about it being more difficult to PVP successfully on Engi than others….and this is true, initially. Engineer has a higher skill floor and ceiling. It’s harder to learn initially and harder to master than most…but once done, your power in PVP should feel impressive – not the opposite. I play my Warrior more now lately bc its a new challenge to work on, succeeding with the Engineer in PVP at this point is pretty easy 95% of fights.

I use a 3 kit P/P condi build that I believe is different than normal bc I don’t really see anyone else running it, but you may not necessarily want a P/P, Heal turret, FT, TK, EG build. What style are you looking for? Which kits do you like to play with, if any? Rifle? P/P or P/S?

LotuS.4378:

Engi for GvG? You must be kidding.

take necro.

I’ve run Engi in GvGs with success. It can be done. Not all guilds run “use these 4 professions or GTFO”.

Quit your QQing.

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/c/2517953

Watch the sPVP state of the game video. You’ll lose most likely some terror damage, but they are going to be adding more sustain options…like life force generation on the auto attack of weapons, multiple more ways of generating life force for more sustain in DS.

To those asking why the healing CD reductions didn’t make it in.

It’s because Warrior is already beast in WvW and especially in PVE and they didn’t think the change would be good there, but that it would be right for PVP.

I’d expect to see reduced healing CDs for PVP only next patch.

Just watched the state of the game.

Sounds like for PVP only getting some reworking of the heals, reduced CD’s and possible more.

Potentially increasing the Warrior’s health pool in PVP only as well.

Authority.6145:

Maybe you can help me with this but I would really love to have a build with Mace/Shied + Hammer.

I’m no pro warrior yet, but I would guess that a Mace/Shield and Hammer build would be pretty screwed in the current meta with blinds flying around everywhere on both weapon sets being melee and slow telegraphed swings.

Yza.2437:

Velron.3729:

So tonight a friend and I were laughing at how much damage we were doing on our Necros when we had the idea to try to do some hotjoin matches with no amulet and see if we could kill people still.

It was probably the most fun I’ve ever had in GW2 laughing my kitten off when a thief would jump me and I proceed to turn around and kill them, with no amulet on. Highly recommend you give it a shot if you want some lulz and a challenge.

I actually even dueled a Guardian and killed him. No armor, No amulet. Wtf.

Someone got owned and decided to start a troll/nerf thread.

How about we nerf the rocket boots on your engy, instead?

I love the internet. People so quick to try to make assumptions and talk trash, makes me laugh.

I don’t use them, I run 3 kit. Be my guest

Killed a bunch of bandwagon Necros tonight on both my Warrior and my Engi, nomnom.

Been practicing with the build still and running some tournies. Definitely still really digging it, awesome build that works well. I seem to survive better than you would expect running a Zerker amulet and the damage is great. Makes for a very solid roamer.

kittenin awesome videos man, I’ll be toying around with this later for sure!

Bweaty.9187:

This is nothing, did you know you can /s and talk to others in sPvP?

I win rounds without even weapons equipped.

You simply walk up to a control point, and say “Excuse me kind Sir/Mam, may you please step out of the circle”

Wow I’m going to try this! I bet it works extra well on Necro right bc they are already afraid of you?

Terok.7315:

The developers will analyze the data and trends and determine what needs to be readjusted. I can promise you that these trolls threads don’t make any difference to those determinations because (like here) they’re often filled with nonsensical, exaggerated, and/or ridiculous claims (or they’re simply obnoxious without a shred of useful or constructive information). Be assured that most of us look forward to the nerf’s so that these incessant juvenile threads stop plaguing our community.

Pretty much what I said if you read the posts up above when people started freaking out and crying about the thread.

There’s no need to asks for nerfs, A-net has the data and will analyze and make a decision. In the mean time feel free to give it a try and see if I’m exaggerating.

kishter.9578:

Velron.3729:

Lol, funny comments today.

Funny to see you have 3 character whit 2 of 5 start in difficult.

Hahahaha, I hope you’re not implying Necro is the high skill profession? Too funny.

And lol @ 3 kit engi being a 2 of 5. Obvious trolling.

redslion.9675:

Defektive.7283:

redslion.9675:

Defektive.7283:

redslion.9675:

What do you think about swapping Sword for Axe, or greatsword?

However, I was thinking… how many access to teleport do thieves have in tournaments? Is there the risk I bait their teleport, immobilize them, and they can just evade/teleport again?

They have a lot of teleports, far more than 1. Expect like 3.

I wouldnt swap sword for Axe unless your role was to sit near home point / mid point.

If you go GS your burst will be higher but your survivability will be lower. Pick your poisen.

Here, something with less burst and less survivability.XD

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJARTjcOFvtQ+OMxBEkCNsKOKAQmQ9wO2w2A-ToAA1CnICSFkLITQygsBNIYZB

I could even swap Endure Pain for SoS, and become a full signet warrior.XD

Ok, now I brought shame to my name forever.XD

I like it! Could work, I’d recommend seeing how feasible the damage numbers from GS would be. Possibly testing it in tournies etc.

Ok, I tried it in some hotjoin (still to scared to bring it into a tourney).

I managed to down a decent necro, I guess.

But Mesmer are just off limits: the battle lasts a lot, but they heal more than I do. But maybe it’s my fault and I’m too scared to go near.

I realized Arcing slice is not so bad to apply some extra spike to the damage. Do you think it might be back to give up rune of hoelbrak for rune of lyssa, dropping my power to 1830?

And I also realized I need signet of stone more than endure pain. So yeah, I’m basically a signet warrior.XD

However, not getting critical is a bit annoying. I might need to swap Soldier’s amulet for berserker, then use rune of melandru. Or Hoelbrak and soldier’s jewel.

I’ve been running the build exactly as listed in the OP with Zerker amy Valkyrie jewel and Hoelbreak runes and so far I have not had any issues with Mesmers with the build. Even dueled a pretty good shatter mesmer in my guild a few times.

Running it with Soldier and such may be your reason…the build seemed (at least to me) to be about bringing targets down quickly. Losing all that crit and crit damage is going to remove your ability to basically insta-kill the mesmer once they are half HP.

Was pretty priceless in the first duel with guildie…he pulled off a stealth when he was low but I tried to predict movement and threw a final thrust out at the air. On TS I hear “WTF was that?! 6.7k!”

Lol, funny comments today.

Definitely not trolling. Like I already said, if you don’t believe feel free to give it a try yourself and be prepared to be impressed at your naked killing. It is quite satisfying and hilarious.

Not asking for anything, I keep saying it. Anet has the data. If they decide the damage is in line where they want it, so be it, we shall adapt.

It is quite amusing to me how badly people want to avoid nerfs when they know they are clearly out of line with other professions. Not talking specifically Necros. Like Thieves back when they were basically 1 shotting people with the queue up CnD, Steal with Mug into BS instagip combo. It’s just Necro’s turn atm.

In the mean time, give the challenge a try. It’s fun.

There’s no need to turn the thread into arguing, though I suppose I should have known it would go this route…I was just too excited at the time. Was still in TS laughing it up when I posted.

Like I said, there’s no reason for the OMG OP NERF PLZ. A-net has the data. They know the raw numbers and they will see what happens to the PVP meta.

There’s also no reason to try to paint some picture like the Necro condi damage isn’t on WTF level right now, A-net has the data and will make a decision.

In the mean time I will continue to have to play Necro to counter all the Necros spamming their kitten all over tournies right now. The best way to kill a Necro right now is with a better Necro.

Rennoko.5731:

Velron.3729:

Lol, impossible? I say go try it yourself and see

High bleed stacks + poison + chill + burning + terror dmg + torment, while chain feared.

I think it looks like you’re the one with hurt buttocks. Its ok I get it, whenever someone posts some new cool thing you can do on the Engi forum everyone gets upset because they are scared it will be nerfed. Like rocket boots onto the enemy spawn in the jumping puzzle or how we use to be able to use a number 6 heal, then jump into the water and use the med kit heal on the tool belt in WvW or the water PVP map, etc.

I think you missed his point. What you did was not a result of the new necro, it was a result of the horrible players you were killing. I am able to hot-join and own face with a minions build, even though I have no idea how to play a minion build.

His point being, you could do that pre-patch, and posts like this just add further fuel to the inevitable re-nerf fire. If every awful thief I face rolled pre-patch in WvW made a thread, I can tell you we would have never seen buffs to begin with.

The word is counter-productive. As has been said numerous times, instead of a “LoL neco oP!”, try constructive criticism.

I think you misunderstood. One person said basically what you are saying now. Then the next person said the opposite and that I must be lying/its impossible.

And really, we did this just for fun. I figured others might like to try it for a challenge/fun as well.

But yes, Necros got over tuned. Too much damage now in condi builds currently. There’s a reason you seeing Necros everywhere right now. They got over buffed and now destroy everything in their path.

Now there’s plenty of bad Necros out there still, so its not like its so ridiculous that even bad players can dominate….but a good condi Necro is a bit out of control right now and the only people who would say otherwise are those who want to remain out of balance to the rest of the professions.

My buddy took a break for a couple weeks, came back after patch, gave him my build…he immediately himself was like “wtf I kill people in 3 skills now, this isn’t fair”. He’s been a necro since beta.

None of this was the point in the thread, there’s no need to make OMG ITS OP PLZ NERF threads. A-net has the numbers and hard data on what’s going on. They know how much damage output is being done.

So if you want a fun challenge, hop into sPVP and take off that amulet and give it a go. You’ll be laughing your kitten off every time you manage to pull off a kill.

Lol, impossible? I say go try it yourself and see

High bleed stacks + poison + chill + burning + terror dmg + torment, while chain feared.

I think it looks like you’re the one with hurt buttocks. Its ok I get it, whenever someone posts some new cool thing you can do on the Engi forum everyone gets upset because they are scared it will be nerfed. Like rocket boots onto the enemy spawn in the jumping puzzle or how we use to be able to use a number 6 heal, then jump into the water and use the med kit heal on the tool belt in WvW or the water PVP map, etc.

So tonight a friend and I were laughing at how much damage we were doing on our Necros when we had the idea to try to do some hotjoin matches with no amulet and see if we could kill people still.

It was probably the most fun I’ve ever had in GW2 laughing my kitten off when a thief would jump me and I proceed to turn around and kill them, with no amulet on. Highly recommend you give it a shot if you want some lulz and a challenge.

I actually even dueled a Guardian and killed him. No armor, No amulet. Wtf.

XII.9401:

redslion.9675:

Bad news: if you want to survive when a necro is around, you are forced to take cleansing ire. And use bursts.

In sPvP you mean.

Food+melandru+ mobile strikes -or- dogged march with you on them the whole time is more than enough.

Necros don’t have any stability-outside from 3sec into shroud form or plague form- and the majority don’t slot stun breakers. A lot of them are bad at removing conditions, too.

No so much bad at removing….limited access to removal. Necro removal is mostly in the form of the signet that pulls them to you and allows to send to foes, or the heal that consumes – 25s CD, or the staff #4 that transfers from you to foe when triggers which I believe is around 30s CD.

They don’t have much removal. The heal will remove once every 25s, the others are foe target transfers – one is a signet with a decently hefty CD iirc and the other requires enemy within melee proximity basically and also has a hefty CD.

Been having an absolute blast with the build, thanks for sharing. Most fun I’ve had on Warrior in sPVP. (Haven’t taken it to tourny yet, been practicing to get a good feel for it first)

Not sure if this has been mentioned.

The reason that they have it set up this way is because of a handicap that still exists with the Warrior. Thief has a similar one I’ll explain as well.

We are able to use our burst ability and NOT lose the adrenaline if we miss. This is the mechanic that holds it back, the cleansing happens based on the bars spent. If you don’t hit a target, you don’t lose or spend any.

This is really a ridiculous mechanic that has no place in a game trying to be an e-sport in my opinion. Attempting to burst should dump the bar immediately, give the condi removal, and then either hit or miss.

Thieves have a similar hand holding mechanic as well. When we stealth and then attempt to use our stealth opener attack, if you block, dodge, etc…we can just spam it over and over again until it lands or the stealth timer ends and we reveal. In which case you would not have the reveal debuff and could restealth and spam the attack for free again. No initiative cost either bc its the #1.

Been running 30/20/10/0/10 with Rabid Amulet and Carrion jewel. Scepter/Focus and Staff. Absolutely disgusting damage. Seriously people don’t even get mad when I kill them in 4 seconds while they are feared, they just say stuff like “lol insane”

0/0/30/20/20 Sword/Shield and Hammer. Loving the patch and loving the new final thrust. Wakittenting people for over 5-6k with it consistently on crits with my build with like 3100 armor, 26k+ hp, etc.

Only thing really disappointing is how Cleansing Ire doesnt cleanse until your burst lands, needs to trigger the moment you activate. Before the animation. But that wont happen bc of the easymode hand holding we STILL have at being able to miss a burst and keep the adrenaline. lolz (very e-sport worthy)

I think they need to make it cleanse the moment the burst is activated for it to be truly effective.

It seems very luckluster when using say the sword burst.

This probably comes down to an issue with how you can use a burst skill and not use any of the adrenaline if you miss…which is also a silly handicap mechanic.

LOL awesome!

15char

I can’t stop using them. Too much fun!

Spart.6578:

Velron.3729:

I’m thinking I need to come up with a fun hotjoin build using bomb kit + rocket boots for stealth launch every 20s.

Anyone else noticing that the actual effect of the combo isn’t activated until you land?

I noticed this as well, same when I blasted in a water field.

Healing turret TB + Rocket boots blast escape.

Kilger.5490:

Even though its not a stun break… can you use rocket boots “while stunned” still??

Tested, no. They would definitely be best in a build with protection injection or fairly tanky. A squishy build probably needs a true stun break in combination with them for escape.

I’m thinking I need to come up with a fun hotjoin build using bomb kit + rocket boots for stealth launch every 20s.

kitten , there’s some negative nancy’s up in here after reading the thread.

This was a kittening AMAZING Engineer patch. So focused on the few bad that you can’t see just how kitten good we got it this patch. SO many builds just opened up, some kitten strong ones. Offensive and defensive new builds. Its great!

There IS a STUN BREAKER on Healing Mist, Elixir Gun tool belt!

NEW ROCKET BOOTS ARE AMAZING!!!!

Also, so many new builds!

Leave it alone, I don’t want to be a Warrior on my Engi. I have a Warrior for that.

There are other sources that came out today with trait previews that back up the leaked notes.

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/sky-pirates-tyria-traits-preview-part-two

Yeah…but he is saying he has 3200 armor (over 1853 toughness) and 1.3k healing, and 1.3k condi damage. Its a very impressive balance if the numbers are all accurate. The more healing you have in addition to high mitigation = incredible sustain.

PLEASE READ!

In case you are unaware, Staff/well Necromancers are one of the most wanted and most powerful profession/skill combos in WvW. I do not know why you feel useless or how, you probably just need a good WvW guild so your skills can be taken advantage of.

Necros are beasts, not weak.

da-gw2.enjin.com check us out if you’re on JQ and need some people to kick some kitten with.

If notes are real new meta = necros.