Technically, the reveal on hit from the engineer wrecks a whole bunch of thief builds and utilities :o
No, the thief still has a chance of winning. The fight just becomes much harder. Diamond skin is a literal hard counter meaning some builds will have 0% chance of winning against an ele with this trait.
Well if you put all your eggs in the same basket what do you expect. You are just countered by an anti-condi build because you’re playing complete condi.
The reason eles choose to run build like that is specially because of builds like yours that just melt squishy classes.
On top of the event being a complete disappointment to people playing WvW “seriously” there are at least 3 game-breaking bugs with the event.
1- People can duplicate an infinite amount of golems
2- People are keeping the golems buffs outside of golems, and making insane damage
3- People in golems are using Ice bows and doing 10k+ ice storms (per hit) and 4k ranged auto-attacks (see image)
WvW feels totally broken, you should stop the event.
What in the heavens guys? It has been less than one month and you are already complaining about Balance?
I know you have 0 trust at the moment on that matter, but hell, chill a little bit, most games balance every month or, the lesser, every two weeks.
Instead of asking where is the balance you would be much more useful creating topics regarding how do you believe those classes should be balanced and start a constructive discussion.
If by the end of August we had no balance at all, go on and let ANet now again that they are being slow, but there’s no right saying that when the patch has been out for less than one month.
A few points you need to consider.
1. Their previous record- Balance patches took ~6 months, which is by far the worst of of any non-life support AAA MMO I have ever played
2. The quality of the patch- sorry but this level of imbalance is unacceptable and amateurish. It’s not like there were hidden combos that players found, these are things you would find within an hour of testing.
So you’re saying I need to sit back and have patience when I’ve waited 6+ months for some real balance changes on some builds and even worse 3 years on other builds. There were 3 years worth of balance discussions and ArenaNet ignored them and worse mocked them in livestreams. Why would I give them more time? Why would I think they will suddenly start listening? Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is insanity. The only thing that ArenaNet listens to is massive outcry that could potentially cause bad PR for them.
ArenaNet needs to be held accountable for putting out bad patches like these, not given more time.
Honestly the only truly broken thing with this patch at the moment is the mesmer and guardian burst with crazy daze/confusion/burning ticks. They fixed the engi bug already, and if they can fix those 2 others everything will be pretty equal to how it used to be.
But as I can see it’s pretty much useless to to lead any discussion here, since people will just defend broken traits as Diamon trait is. No wonder the game is at this state.
Diamond skin is a counter trait that has a pretty easy to counter threshold. I think it’s one of the best balanced grandmaster traits in the game and I believe Anet think the same.
I would trade it for Heightened Focus or Force of Will any day. Or even a useful elite, or stealth, or clones. So many classes have greater advantages.
Most eles think it’s not even that good because basically 90% of the time it’s not even working unless you’re fighting a really bad condi cheese build. Stone heart is much better anyway.
A lot of things are broken, and diamond skin isn’t one of them.
Ele is easier to kill than it has ever been due to the boon duration nerf and the buff to spike damage, which impact squishy classes more than medium and heavy.
You guys are all running berserker/condi amulets and still have more HP than an ele, yet are complaining if they can counter some of it on the bunkerest of builds, even if that’s all they can run.
Have you ever tried running berserker amulet on a d/d ele? You have 11k hp and die in half a mesmer burst. We have no choice to go celestial and outplay you with our sustain. If you wanna do the same just stop running berserker and run celestial or soldier, I doubt an ele will kil you then with it’s “OP” diamond skin that isn’t even that good to start with since with any faceroll from a rampage warrior, guard, mesmer, thief, ranger, we’re already at 50% hp.
Eight months since even the last reply here – please don’t give up on the entire Mac gaming community. I’m posting just to add another frustrated voice to the growing slew of others already here.
Same issue as the rest: crashes at the beginning of any WvW fight of around 10v10 or more. I actually have yet to experience a full WvW fight to the end in GW2. Given that was the #1 selling point of GW2 for me, that’s a pretty depressing reality. I want to WvW so bad that I still submit myself to this torture 5 days a week, heading into WvW with the guild at the same time every afternoon and crashing at the start of every fight every day.
We realize that the proportion of Mac players is small but we ARE here and we want to stay here. Don’t push us away.
What’s most depressing is that they had fixed these crashes back 18 months ago, and brought them back with a feature patch (the one that added the wardrobe).
Right now I’m crashing every night in WvW after about 30 minutes of playing, then every other 30 minutes to 1 hour or so… I get the “Success” error most of the time, which is kinda insulting.
Maybe we should contact support directly, since they merged the forums it looks like there is no more mac support here because you never see them reply on mac issues.
3-4 seconds of resistance on entering earth(30-50% uptime). On enter and exit would be too strong because with a little boon duration you could get 100% uptime, which would be op. Also, this trait hard counters most condi builds. All you people saying, why don’t you have power are missing the point. Players should be able to play rabid or settlers if they want and not have 0% chance of winning. Also, many carrion builds still won’t get the ele below 90%, eles have plenty of healing, vigor, and prot to make sure of that.
Because they are only countering 1 person? This is a team game after all. If you’re a complete condi DPS then either:
1. Call for help
2. Don’t engage till you get help.
3. Do something ELSE important for your team.
This whole thing that 1 build (and yes, it’s a build because the entire spec has to revolve around survivability) shouldn’t counter another is just the death of any interesting PvP. There is already tons of games out there that have hard counters. Look at MOBA’s, champions are released all the time that counter X or Y. Best example I can give is in League of Legends a champion named Galio who counters literally every single Ability Power (read: magic based) champion in the game because his passive effect is the more magic resist he has the more damage he does. That’s what he does, and it makes it so that if you’re that mage, you need to play better, watch your butt when he’s around and find your kills on someone else. How does a mage fight him? They dont, what they do is:
1. Play passively
2. Ask for help from a team mate (jungler who in GW2 is your point harasser/rotating DPS) to shut him down and deny farm/kill him
3. Go somewhere else on the map and kill other people in other lanes.
It’s not fun to be countered for sure, but this is a team game. Get help, swap objectives, react to the presence.
What he said.
And give us stealth, we’ll give you diamond skin without hesitation.
The art team is doing their job with the new map that’s certain. But from a WvW design perspective it seems we will be stuck once more with a copy paste of the same 3 maps and a boring PPT system with a broken server system.
If you can’t remove 10% of the squishiest class then you’ve placed all your eggs in the same basket and are honestly just being outplayed by a counter build. Of course diamond skin will be a good trait to counter you if you rely 100% on condi.
Outplayed just by your opponent picking up a trait and letting it passively carry for him?
If you can’t even remove 10% of an ele’s hp then maybe you’re playing the wrong way.
If you can’t remove 10% of the squishiest class then you’ve placed all your eggs in the same basket and are honestly just being outplayed by a counter build. Of course diamond skin will be a good trait to counter you if you rely 100% on condi.
But diamond skin in terms of GM traits, is probably the most balanced of them all because it’s super easy to break the barrier to disable it, yet at the same time it is extremely effective when functioning and a good condi meta counter.
The elementalist will get 1-shot all over the place without these defensive traits. We rely on them to survive. It’s not any surprise that the new d/d ele meta is full bunker traits/celestial, because it’s all we can run when classes with nearly twice more hp can afford to use berserker amulet.
Terrible idea. EoTM should stay the way it is now.
lol It’s a complete failure now. People don’t even play the objective, they just run around sharing loot and avoiding fights.
It would be much better in a competitive context.
Look at his sig, he is simply terrified they’ll take his champ farm away trying to make it an actual wvw map. What did you expect?
So you now try ad hominen because you have no arguments? FYI I play normal wvw and was part of pretty much any decent fighting guild that existed on my server.
People have been abusing EotM mechanics just to get loot. It’s not the way the map was intended to be played, specially when some guilds are on multiple servers in order to coordinate all sides and bypass the fighting/defending aspect of the game. It’s overshadowing the competitive potential the EotM map had.
They could have re-released previous content and nobody would have minded. Like they could do a Wintersday and July thing, which would both give people something to do and give people who missed it a chance at the star of gratitude. They could also do a bunch of other stuff like SAB, Halloween, take the daily activities off their rotation so we can at least do the ones we enjoy every day, re-release dragon ball, lots of filler content to pick from. But instead we’ve gone over half a year without a single piece of content. Not encouraging for newer players coming in for the expansion when they notice there is no content coming out at all.
With regards to SAB, I’m pretty sure they said they couldn’t do it because of changes to the game engine.
That’s a pretty bad excuse. Why would you develop content that breaks other content?
Living story was intended to avoid these content drought, but it seems it was not really well planned, as most of it was not re-playable, and even re-playable content like SAB were just removed from the game.
I’m not sure what Anet can do at this point. Maybe they need to hire more people to make more pvp, dungeons and WvW maps.
Because they can do 20k+ burst from stealth in less than a second, daze you and interrupt you constantly, stack insane torment and confusion, avoid damage easily and are super hard just to target doesn’t mean they are OP. It just mean everyone should play mesmer.
- Ether Renewal gives you the cantrip boons only at the end of the recharge, but most eles are used to interrupting it with a dodge when they are fully healed or if they needed to move fast. In that situation it doesn’t give you might, vigor or regen.
- Churning earth displays “Might” the moment you start channeling it but gives you might only at the end.
- Churning earth animation keeps going even if you are interrupted. It should be clearer when you are interrupted. It’s cooldown should been reduced just like Killshot cooldown was reduced: It makes no sense that a skill that does twice more damage, from a class with twice more hp, takes 66% of the channeling time of Churning Earth to cast.
We’ve been asking for different maps since launch.
WvW has been neglected since launch, even though it was their plan to add new maps on a rotation.
Yet now we get a replacement map, but no rotation.
WvW have posted countless posts on how to improve WvW, but Anet simply does not listen.
Yes, thanks for your reply. What I’m proposing isn’t really 3 “borderlands” but more a new system where the 3 maps are independent, yet contribute to the same scoring.
Second improvement I wish the most for is that there is rewards at different temporal scale of the matchups. So that even if you only play 2 hours you feel you have accomplished something, or that even if you lose the week you could have won a few days.
I know most of this has been proposed by the community in greater details, I just wished Anet would listen and at the same time remind them that what we need is more than a map but a matchup system overhaul.
It looks like it’s missing about 75% of the utility skills, 2 weapons, 2 legends, and the damage was nerfed by 50% not to unbalance the rest of the game during the beta test.
I would not base my impression of the class from that, specially not when mesmers are running around 1-shotting everyone and the condi damage is off the chart.
Is Anet ever going to do something about the mesmers destroying everyone? It’s getting really annoying to be constantly interrupted and then bursted in 1 second.
The stab changes more than anything favors the bigger blob who will have more ccs. In the old meta stability had a set duration no matter how many people you were going to dive into; it was balanced in a manner to give a better chance to the smaller group.
That said, smaller groups of hardcore players have and will find new ways to win against large blobs… If they don’t then they will leave the game.
The proof Stronghold shouldn’t have it’s own queue is that it’s still a prototype map of a gamemode.
Unless they have 4-5 more maps it’s never going to take off, people are just going to get bored. It’s not because it’s not great, it’s just that without variety people get tired quickly unless perhaps if it is a complete eSport; but we’ve just taken 3 steps back in that direction with the last update and class/skill balance changes.
It should be mixed with the other maps until more maps are added.
It’s just a lot worse than before since the condi+burst update. Until Anet rebalance the game there is nothing we can do but play this or take a break.
The condi stacking limit worked well, removing it was just a huge mistake and the game is suffering because of it. They could have buffed burning without removing the stack-limit.
Arcane Brilliance still centers the BLAST finisher on the opponent rather than the Ele. In order to get it to function correctly you have to have no target.
They can only add so much fields to the game. They would hit the same limitations fast.
Not to mention that those fields have to be worthwhile first. They would also devalue other fields, since you can already get every possible old effect out if fields.
Well I don’t know, they could have overlapping fields interact, or have a new combo system. Combo whirl and projectiles should be improved. They could have skill interaction between classes with some new elites.
If everyone would just leave these almost-empty servers then perhaps Anet would fix the issue. Right now it seems that it would take only 4 tier to sustain the whole WvW population.
Since day 1 I’ve been suggesting that Anet makes new field-types to change the group play potential. They’ve added boons and condi, which are somewhat interesting.
New fields would really change the way people fight and would make a bigger contrast.
Necro kills ele with like 2 auto attacks in lich form. I’ve seen good necros around and they really kick kitten . I don’t think it’s the worse, by far.
The worse at the moment is the thief, because it can only burst and with the condi meta it melts away faster than an ele.
Ele worse than warrior or guardian made me laugh. After i saw it I didn’t bother reading the whole thing since it won’t be informative anyways.
But it is weaker than both heavy classes, I play all 3 and win more fights on my war or guard even if I have about 4000 hours on ele, 100 on guard and 10 on war. Guard burst is faster than ele now (2.5 seconds or less to kill the heavy golem), and it has more survival ability. Warrior rampage is also way OP.
I really don’t understand the idea behind removing a map and having 3 copies of a new map.
First of all the new map has too much ground to cover for the current server population. Second of all, 3 version of the same map just seems like a less than ideal solution to the WvW server balance problem.
I would recommend the following:
1- Remove EotM from it’s current karma farm system
2- Have 4 WvW maps: EBG, Alpine BL, Desert BL, EotM
3- Bring back the Orb to the Alpine BL map, make it so that a server that has the Orb for over 24 hours gain control of the citadel.
4- Make it so that Server are all merged on an 3-Alliances based system. Create overflows every week according to the world population of the previous week, let people have a main overflow, and guest to other overflows when their overflow is full, with a penalty to XP or loot.
5- Make the matches best out of 7 days, with a winner and reward every daily reset. For example if servers are tied 2-2-2 the last day would be a really intense fight to win. Each day should be also divided in smaller four-hours long matches (without keep upgrade resetting); In case of a draw the server with the most player kills should win.
6- Every map should have a mechanic that has repercussions on another map.
A new system similar to what I propose would guarantee both map variety, server balance, player involvement in the scoring mechanic and a fight intensity that increase as the week progresses.
That said, everything about the new map looks amazing.
Your 4th point, not even gonna comment on b/c that is just ridiculous.
Is it? Because some big companies out there don’t think it is, and think it’s way better than having 10 empty servers.
As for point 5 it would fix what is a completely broken PPT system that only represent server coverage. I don’t see how that would be ridiculous.
I simply won’t play revenant because the no weapon swap. There are way to many instances in this game where you need to switch back and forth. I don’t want to use just a hammer at all times only because you need ranged for a lot of fights.
