Guild Wars 2

MethaneGas.8357:

Shout guard?
Mallyx Leadership runes Revenant —> spam resistance to allies and get perma resistance on yourself?

I faced two warriors 1v2 with a bunk DH and they literally did nothing to me. Not to mention I cleaned my teammates from their whole burst like it was nothing.

You faced a 1v2 and cleaned your teammates conditions? Sounds like someone is lying.

And shout guard is pure trash that they literally die in mere seconds.

Again, my opinion. DM is much better.

And what oh kitten abilities are you talking about? There aren’t any…

Travelers for sure in PvP.

Shiyo.3578:

Instead of “oh crap” “get out of jail free” buttons you have passive knockback in the form of heavy light.

Enjoy.

I don’t even know what to say to this. I’d be willing to give up Heavy Light for any remote semblance of a good mobility skill. Comparing Heavy Light to any of those abilities just shows how shortsightedness you are.

The skill floor is really low while the ceiling is extremely high for Dragonhunter.

You really have to time your dodges, know when to use Courage and Resolve and really know when to get out of a fight.

The one thing that Guardians don’t have going for them, and I’ve said it before, is an “oh kitten ” button. They don’t have Endure Pain, Blink, Stealth – staples of most classes that can get out of a situation when needed. And Dragon’s Maw is leaps and bounds better than Renewed Focus.

DH burst and damage and control is really high with traps and longbow but to play DH at a really high level you have to be spot on with every move. You can’t really spam one ability and call it a day unlike with say, Revenant.

So I don’t necessarily think other classes can do it better it’s just that the other classes have a lower skill ceiling and can make mistakes and still get out when needed. You have to play it kitten near perfect every game but for most people, they’ll get brain fatigued and switch off to something less demanding but almost equally as rewarding.

All of this is my opinion gathered from gameplay.

Common practice to nerf abilities based on the general consensus of bad players. They make up this game so they will cater to them.

I envy those who are getting 50/50 split.

20 games played, 7 won…

I envy those who are doing win/loss/win/loss rotation.

16 games played, 6 wins. For one, the games are less enjoyable this season compared to last. At least I had closer games last season – so far I think I had one or two games that were close, the others not so much.

The fun factor for me so far is at an all time low.

Playing against Warriors is just flat out frustrating and rage inducing at the moment.

Hmm, good points. I’ll definitely pick it backup later today and give it a whirl!

HeadCrowned.6834:

No I think resistance in itself is too powerful. It would be better to make it for example reduce incomming condition damage by 50%. A boon that could totally annihilate any condi build without boonstrip is just a misplaced boon. It also forces you to take a condi class that has access to boonstrip, so mesmer or necro. This reduces build diversity, while we actually want more build diversity.

You have to consider access to Resistance. For example, if a Guardian shout had Resistance (2s), then if they wanted that boon, they’d have to give up a trap or a meditation.

The rate at which you can apply conditions far outweighs the recharge timer and upkeep of Resistance currently. There is very little down time for clearing conditions as they’re quickly reapplied with potent stacks.

Do you save Dragon Maw for when you’re getting focused or when players are in downed state?

A big thing to note is what you said – difficult to face builds 1v1 – I’ve always saw Guardian/DH has a supplemental class that when untouched, can turn the tides of a fight.

I probably didn’t play it as well as I could have but for those who want to see it in action as of recent, I have a few raw videos on twitch – not meant to hijack/pimp. I just captured gameplay to review myself and see what I can do different with the hammer.

https://www.twitch.tv/mnphokus/profile

Saiyan – any videos of game play?

I used Hammer as more of a control than damage unless there were downed players and needed some cleave.

It worked best when I had a knockback against a target with Longbow followed by Hammer 3/zealot’s embrace and then RoW/trap to keep them contained.

It’ll definitely work better if they just decrease the cast time of the Hammer abilities. For now, I just stick with sword/shield.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

phokus.8934:

Condition Immunity – this is the Resistance boon so more access to it?
Condition Reflect – Mesmers have Arcane Thievery which transfers conditions to a target and Necros have something similar I think.

Personally, I’d rather see more access to Resistance but not at the Warrior level.

plague signet.
Sigil of generosity.
Resistance can be stripped or corrupted.
Mesmer have strip. Necro has corruption. Either way, resistence as a condition control tool is useless them.

As Resistance should be countered…
People talk about build diversity so as of today, no one (99%) runs boon strip on Mesmer. Necro Corrupt Boon is an excellent counter to Resistance as there needs to be some counterplay to it.

Resistance is an extremely powerful tool to counter conditions. It makes the most sense to incorporate into more classes rather than a complete overhaul of classifying conditions and other abilities.

End of S2 until about a week ago.

I ran this build a little while back and it works okay but not great. Mainly due to the limiting factor of the slow wind up on hammer abilities. I used JI instead of CoP and also at times switched out ToF for CoP because the pressure gets too much at times.

If you play with a Mesmer then ring of warden and Moa will drop them quick. Overall it’s the same medi trapper build but with hammer and pack runes. Now if they would only cut down the ridiculous wind up time on hammer skills ….

As someone who is heavily involved in software development, you better believe I’m making sure my team knows what they’re saying, how to articulate features of the application, camera or not.

It’s an embarrassment that he didn’t and he seems so heavily involved with class abilities. You’re giving him way too much credit and lenience, Obtena.

I’ve had this for about a month now after using the 64 bit client. I don’t remember if it happened when I was using the 32 bit client.

Forum bug, hoo!!

Evan Lesh.3295:

Configs were wonky for the first 30 minutes of the season in case some people here played during that period.

This is why you should never be an early adopter.

To even consider using spirit weapons over Meditations/Traps, we would need updated traits to do what those utilities do. Akin to Warriors getting Defy Pain after taking x percentage of damage, Guardians would need something similar.

I’m trying to think of other ways to incorporate such things with spirit weapons but I am having a hard time thinking how clunky and complex those abilities would be.

FrownyClown.8402:

I just had 5 losses in a row. I won my first game though. None of the games were close.

The problem is simple: look at your signature!

Yeah I’m confused on what you’re saying here… from the screenshot, it was a close fair fight. You just seem to be under the guise that you were supposed to steamroll the other team because you were paired with a group?

And as Mes pointed out, you’re going up other “skilled” members.

While I’m sitting here waiting for a meeting to start, I have to ask why they don’t do Q/A session about what we’d like to see regarding DH/Guardian changes.

At the very least they can see where they can focus their efforts of thought and where the most impactful changes can be made.

Guardian/DH has some pretty clear and definitive holes and when we wait for changes and are met with graphical fixes, it’s very frustrating as a customer.

Condition Immunity – this is the Resistance boon so more access to it?
Condition Reflect – Mesmers have Arcane Thievery which transfers conditions to a target and Necros have something similar I think.

Personally, I’d rather see more access to Resistance but not at the Warrior level.

R O C.6574:

So like i said, the diversity we want won’t happen until they release new elite specs and the core builds we used to love are gone forever.

Core builds in the sense of using 3 core lines is gone.

ANet’s new approach is using the core lines to supplement the elite specs and from there you will start seeing build… role diversity.

I’d really love to know why Guardians/DH get no love at all.

The worst part is the silence from this phantom balance team.

drcraig.9403:

King Cephalopod.7942:

drcraig.9403:

Balance sustain=Remove vitality & toughness from all amulets.

Done dada!

Don’t give them ideas.

Hear me out for minute. Lots of people are crying about warrior adrenal health now. Is adrenal health over tuned? No not at all. The problem is I can pick an amulet that bumps my base health from 19k to 28k. Now, it seems like adrenal health is op. Same can be said for numerous professions using numerous forms of sustain. Take away vitality and toughness and all of a sudden combat gets a whole lot deadlier and people need to make adjustments. Instead we have professions that can stand on point and 1 v 2 and 1 v 3. They don’t kill anybody but they don’t die either. Borrrring.

Sure if they normalized all health pools from each class. What you’re suggesting would mean Guardians getting one-shot with their 11k base health.

ronpierce.2760:

phokus.8934:

I’d rather there be more access to Resistance.

That would not fix the issue of how the game plays, it would be an easy fix bandaid at pushing conditions out of viability, and would likely end up very similar to diamond skin. Resistance, as it is, is a very poorly designed Boon designed to hard counter. It has its uses in moderation, but like Quickness (should have been), it should not be easily stackable.

This solution fixes many issues at once without trying to give the finger to conditions, but rather, making their play and counter play more defined, controllable and easy to follow. This should lead to better and more fun gameplay without masking the problem out of existence.

I’m not quite seeing how adding more access to Resistance would be a band aid. What you’re proposing is a completely huge overhaul that just won’t happen so let’s be realistic here for just a minute.

Condition cleansing priority would be a start followed by access to Resistance but in limited duration.

Zelulose.8695:

phokus.8934:

I’d rather there be more access to Resistance.

Then conditions would be useless in the game. Look at warrior with the resistance changes if they had more They would be extremely hard to kill.

Warrior is an outlier but resistance would not make conditions useless as the duration is low today and gives a much needed boost against condi spam weapon 1.

I’d rather there be more access to Resistance.

The problem with Guardians, through my eyes, is that they’re so far behind the 8 ball in terms of abilities that they’d have to nerf all other classes/elites just to get on the DH level.

StickerHappy.8052:

phokus.8934:

I’d figure you could look beyond what the OP said and see that they’re trying to make a point.

But healing (with Smiter’s Boon) is not sustained damage at all. It’s Smite Condition but not generally used/setup to do damage on top of a player. I’m not sure why you’re saying block is sustain damage when it’s not a reflect nor does it have a damaging effect.

This, of course, is using the Meditrapper build.

Meditrapper can get 2 f2s that heal for 4k each, remove 3 conditions when traited, Trap heal.

2 5 second blocks with Stab. all with renewed focus Focus block, etc.

How is that not sustain? Sustain does not always mean healing.

The context of the OP is making reference to damage. I don’t recall anyone using sustain in GW2 as an LoL context of survivability.

I’d figure you could look beyond what the OP said and see that they’re trying to make a point.

But healing (with Smiter’s Boon) is not sustained damage at all. It’s Smite Condition but not generally used/setup to do damage on top of a player. I’m not sure why you’re saying block is sustain damage when it’s not a reflect nor does it have a damaging effect.

This, of course, is using the Meditrapper build.

Everything you listed there does not equate to sustain at all.

And no one takes staff in pvp and even outside of that, their mobility is completely garbage. If JI didn’t require a target, I’d be saying something different.

Really, the most annoying? Coming from a Revenant and Ele…

But I’ll take your ridiculous post and atrocious that you complain about everything in this game and in life.

Goats are like mushrooms. If you shoot a duck, I’m scared of toasters.

To add…

Renewed Focus needs to recharge the Virtues on activation and not at the end.
Symbol of Energy – fire field – please, stop with the light fields
Shouts – heal by default; 1200 base
Skills that make you stationary – get rid of it; I’d rather see a decrease in movement then staying still as a sitting target
Shield 5 – turn it into a reflect instead of absorb

I think I can go on but I’ll save myself the hassle and just wait until next week to see what changes they bring to DH/Guardian.

I’m a bit on the fence with Merc going away but now it looks like Sage’s Amulet will be taken.

In any event, we’re going to expect more changes next week so we’ll see where we stand.

Him saying what he said just verbally reinforces how the EU season is going. There’s no reason to try and like he said, they’re off focusing on other games.

You people need to stop putting these players on different pedestals. At the end of the day, they’re just looking to make a few extra bucks.

You took his quote completely out of context.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/WoodenPotatoes-on-Moa-nerf/first#post6139598

Traps are nice in open pve. I feel like for so long it was a boring monotonous fighting style with vanilla guard that made me go Mesmer. But as of late I find myself going on my DH for hot maps.

Dahkeus.8243:

phokus.8934:

You can get to legendary on any build for any class. It only reinforces that the pip and matchmaking system is so inherently flawed.

That reply is so full of holes, I don’t even know where to start, lol. If you can show some inkling of having some basis in reason beyond this crudely stitching of convenient correlations, then maybe there’s a reason to take you serious, but until then…lol.

I take it you never frequent the pvp subforum then. And the same could be said about what you wrote in relation to him getting to legendary.

Grinding out pips is nothing more than a grind. It literally takes zero skill to get to legendary if you play enough games.

Let that sink in, wrap your head around that, and come to the realization that the pvp leveling/ranking system is more flawed than your response.

You can get to legendary on any build for any class. It only reinforces that the pip and matchmaking system is so inherently flawed.

Guardians really don’t have that “oh sh**” skill that can get them out of a situation like most classes.

I’ll use Mesmer as an example as it’s really the only other class I play. They have a few ways to get out of those situations with one big one being Blink. The big thing going for this is that it doesn’t require a target. It mimics JI but with JI, you need a target… kind of useless if you’re stunned/cc and you have no way of getting out, Aegis application is minimal and only applies to one attack and Wings of Resolve can be interrupted (and no heal!).

Guardian falls short in a lot of places that worked when the game was first out but its abilities have not caught up with the times of today’s game.

He’s a pver so who really cares what he says about SoH?

To put this into context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPDxFxrlbEs

I don’t really understand why people are all up in arms over changes and then they say they’ve quit this game a while back.

The nerf to Moa is perfectly acceptable and fine, even for any Mesmer who runs nostalgic glasses. 6 seconds is still quite a bit of time to coordinate damage on someone. Skills are being tuned to elites and you can bet that they’ll continue to be tuned as other elites are released.

You need to move beyond core specs as they’re complementary to elite specializations now. Elite specializations is the new game now. There’s no way that they’ll keep core specs on an even par with elite specializations – what’s the incentive for pvpers/wvw to buy expansion packs then?

Admittedly, this is a weird time as we only have one elite specialization to choose from but I’ll guarantee any amount of gold that it’ll be better when we get more.

You need to move past core specs being on the same field as elites. The game has so should you.