Guild Wars 2

lyndztanica.1739:

Lua.4163:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Generally, I think people overact about those small clipping issues. GW is really the only community so sensitive toward clipping. You can find this in almost every game because it is very hard to fix. Anyway, I don’t even see clipping as a problem, I just ignore it and think it’s a part of games since the first games with polygons appeared.

Also the stuff like the ‘new human female walking animation’ – I watched a video and haven’t even noticed a differfence, even after watching it several times and reading a description.

Really, just stop with all the complaining and enjoy the awesome armor skins we receive from Anet.

I made a post on the Game Bugs Forum and I really don’t think it is a “small clipping issue” as you can see on my screenshots. And this issue is very easy to fix, they could remove the neck ornament or even make it part of the helmet so when you turn the helmet off it disappears too.

It’s very easy to say to just ignore this, because really? This is something they might want to have considered when initially designing this outfit. And given the large number of hairstyles this happens with, it makes it look like little to no thought about this as a potential problem was given in the design phase. Now something I bought to be used on 4-5 low-level characters can now only be used on… 2 of my level 80s. Because they’re the only ones who have hairstyles that don’t clip with this.

Not everybody has long hair and the reason why they probably made a helm was because people really are that annoyed as they claim to be they can either get shorter hair, wear the helm or not buy the outfit.

Clipping isn’t going to go away, you might as well find outfits that minimize it.

Valik Shin.9027:

silvermember.8941:

Valik Shin.9027:

anzenketh.3759:

For those asking for more balanced matches I challenge you to come up with a idea that will 100% work in another thread. This includes keeping in mind the following.

1.) Not just a 1-2 hour game but something that is about a week long.
2.) Something that will not drive the population though the roof.
3.) Allow a maximum of 200-300 players to participate at any given period of time.
4.) Something that will not develop large queues.
5.) Something that will not turn into exactly what you are upset about. Stacking on the winning team.
6.) Something that will get pride in a chosen faction and allow friends to play together.

I think you will find it is no so easy to do this.

My only concern is how hard the meta will be. A lot of players do not have a extensive period of time to play each week. Already some will be left out due to school/vacation/other.

Rewards based on a ratio of active wvw population to score. Perfect? No but still better than what we have

How do you determine active WvW population in a fair and balance way. Secondly, you solution punishes players on active servers, while YOU as a player might not care, developers have to care. Anet has to be as fair as possible, that’s is their job.

So really your solution is terrible. Anyways, so glad you are not a developer.

To make people spread out and not stack u have to punish the most active servers. I gives incentive to move to less active servers. It rewards skill over numbers. As for counting numbers that’s a bit tricky. Could b based on number of people who completed the achievement , having to spend a certain amount of time in wvw, experience gained or a mix of all 3. Again counting active is the hard part.

You are not the first person to suggest that.

Arenanet isn’t going to force players to move. Rarely do companies ever do that unless it is absolutely necessary. So that is a terrible suggestion. Moving players involves breaking up guilds separating from and possibly family from each other, a company like Arenanet will never do that.

CboStL.4965:

silvermember.8941:

CboStL.4965:

Spicyhash.7605:

I don’t even have words for this. Your entitlement is absolutely stunning. Life doesn’t always work out the way you want it to, and you should just accept that you aren’t going to be handed this title in accordance with whatever schedule you’re on. If you want the title this badly, you should find time to play during your vacation. If not, tough luck. Lots of people in GW2 “go without” and don’t get the things they want because that’s just how it is. Nobody deserves to have anything handed to them and it is absurd that you would expect ANet to cater just to you. What about people who are on vacation for two weeks out of the four, should we reduce the requirement to two weeks? What about people who are on an entire month long vacation? Maybe we should just give out the title and max tickets to everyone so it’s “fair”. Ugh. Sickening.

Take a nap

You should as well. he isn’t wrong.

guild wars 2 is a game and life goes on.

Where did I imply he was wrong? He said it in an extremely nasty and immature way. He needs to take a nap.

“Take a nap” can be interpreted into a lot of things. If that was what you meant, I am sorry.

With that said, sometimes you have to be blunt. People are used to be treated like they are special snowflakes on gaming forums.

CboStL.4965:

Spicyhash.7605:

I don’t even have words for this. Your entitlement is absolutely stunning. Life doesn’t always work out the way you want it to, and you should just accept that you aren’t going to be handed this title in accordance with whatever schedule you’re on. If you want the title this badly, you should find time to play during your vacation. If not, tough luck. Lots of people in GW2 “go without” and don’t get the things they want because that’s just how it is. Nobody deserves to have anything handed to them and it is absurd that you would expect ANet to cater just to you. What about people who are on vacation for two weeks out of the four, should we reduce the requirement to two weeks? What about people who are on an entire month long vacation? Maybe we should just give out the title and max tickets to everyone so it’s “fair”. Ugh. Sickening.

Take a nap

You should as well. he isn’t wrong.

guild wars 2 is a game and life goes on.

Valik Shin.9027:

anzenketh.3759:

For those asking for more balanced matches I challenge you to come up with a idea that will 100% work in another thread. This includes keeping in mind the following.

1.) Not just a 1-2 hour game but something that is about a week long.
2.) Something that will not drive the population though the roof.
3.) Allow a maximum of 200-300 players to participate at any given period of time.
4.) Something that will not develop large queues.
5.) Something that will not turn into exactly what you are upset about. Stacking on the winning team.
6.) Something that will get pride in a chosen faction and allow friends to play together.

I think you will find it is no so easy to do this.

My only concern is how hard the meta will be. A lot of players do not have a extensive period of time to play each week. Already some will be left out due to school/vacation/other.

Rewards based on a ratio of active wvw population to score. Perfect? No but still better than what we have

How do you determine active WvW population in a fair and balance way. Secondly, you solution punishes players on active servers, while YOU as a player might not care, developers have to care. Anet has to be as fair as possible, that’s is their job.

So really your solution is terrible. Anyways, so glad you are not a developer.

Mayama.1854:

Torsailr.8456:

Axialbloom.8109:

Agreed. Our feedback will be (even more) meaningless for the last 2 professions at this rate.

This isn’t really a fair statement to make. Development times are much longer than most people realize. No, 2 weeks isn’t enough time to read feedback and make changes, but then 8 weeks is on the short side too. The most that would ever be changed in this time frame is a slight tweaking of numbers; the actual functional changes being made won’t change. Any feedback dictating a large change to anything they’ve announced won’t be happening until the next patch.

Do you play dota2? They tweak and drasticaly change things faster than 2 weaks if needed.

Apparently, dota2 is the same size and scope of guild wars 2 right? Because that is what you are implying and they are not really.

Changing number isn’t that hard and Arenanet has shown to be able to do that extremely fast, the question is are the players well informed to be able to determine whether something needs to change or not.

dietzero.3514:

It was obviously a two-handed sword.

Also, why do you sign your name on every post?

Pretentious people love to do that.

They were never really useful since they all amounted to lol make me op.

Some of them were useful but I think arenanet realized the fan base were not smart enough to know CDI were just suggestions not a design document. People throught it existed so anet would implement them, anet just wanted ideas on were to go next for improvement.

It didn’t hurt that half of the post amounted to this is pointless.

morrolan.9608:

DiogoSilva.7089:

They are going with the right philosophy to address FGS and tornado. Remove their unintended abuse, while making them stronger at what they were intended to be. Now let’s just hope that the buffs will be enough to justify using both skills in normal situations.

I see no mention of buffing other parts of FGS merely nerfing the side effects. Which will just make it not worth using.

You also see no mentioned of the other changes the elementalist will get but we both know they will.

Maybe you are right, but getting angry and mad about it is pointless.

LordByron.8369:

So finally “Mr izzy i play only war and i hate ele” managed to nerf ele again.
Did he spot some ele in WWW and pve and he didn t want them i guess XD

He said many months ago while ele was unviable and still asked to nerf ele FGS …

I have no words on how biased some people is and how much they can .

Trust me until izzy is in the balancing team you can forget a balanced ele in ANY part of the game.
2 years and still nerfing anything that makes us viable.

The meteornado nerf will just release ele to the role of waterbot again in WWW.

I just hope you can check how many ele players will be in WWW before and after this great idea.

we are already few…but we will be less.
And War GS is untouched GG….

Oh and trust me not only FGS 4 will be nerfed.
Expect also FGS 3 i can bet on it.

Melodramatic much?

Tornado in WvW was nice, but it wasn’t the must defining thing about the ele. It’s lost wont suddenly make us healbots, well you can if you want to.

Secondly, did not say anything about nerfing tornado, they just said they will change the functionality so how about we just wait and see in the next 3 weeks or so.

FGS needed to be nerfed, so that is good. It is good for the game.

Paul.4081:

Sawnic.6795:

grifflyman.8102:

Don’t spend gems till they start listening to the community.

They do. Just not the majority of the forums.

There’s a reason why the reddit board is more active than the GW2 forums.

Only paying attention to pats on the back isn’t a good thing.

Reddit is just a less toxic version of the official forums, so really they are really “paying attention to pats on the back” isn’t really happening.

IT seems more like they are listening to the general population and less to the hardcore which will include this forum and reddit. If you read the forums you can pretty much see the same names posting most of the time, which means both reddit and gw2 forums represent a very loud vocal minority and does not reflect the game’s population except for hardcore PvP.

Hence why it feels like they are not listening, they probably are but have to consider the bigger population opinion more.

Pifil.5193:

Blaeys.3102:

They have to standardize the armor because some racial armor wont translate to human models.

Displaying racial armour as its human racial equivalent would fix that quite easily but I suspect it’s to simplify and speed up target recognition; so, for example, when you see a male human in cabalist armour you instantly know he’s a necromancer.

Didn’t that go the way of the dodo bird when they brought in outfits? I haven’t play in a long time to know.

ArrDee.2573:

Wahoo! Bye frands!

EDIT:

@: Balance: it’s something we’re definitely keeping in mind as we experiment with different game types. Some things carry over just fine from Conquest, others become weaker, and others become stronger. It’s inherent/to be expected in having different goals in different game modes.

The solution is SO SIMPLE!!!! Split up abilities into PvP and PvE versions! You did it in GW1! Why won’t you commit to it for GW2! You already did it for some skills like old Dhuumfire and the revealed timer! Why aren’t you committing! Why! WHY!

Wahoo!

It is only simple for you because you don’t HAVE to worry about anybody except yourself.

The developers certainly have to worry about the game as a WHOLE. So not it is never as simple as you seem to think. You are not the first person to come up with that idea, they did it in their previous game and obviously found an issue with continuing with that path.

But hey what do I know.

Phaeton.9582:

silvermember.8941:

Phaeton.9582:

IMO they should rebalance the impact might has on condition damage output.

Might stacking is too easy to achieve, and if this game is ever taken to a truly competitive level a pro team could abuse this easily. Its already being done to some degree in these ele/warrior comps, and I’ve got builds that take this even further. It would be a clear nerf if there wasn’t so many other rotten mechanics which might stacking builds can stomp on.

Everybody comes up with some kitteneyed reason why Guild wars 2 pvp isn’t competitive, I honestly doubt the might problem is the reason or even one of the reason guild wars 2 PvP has issues. Might stacking is not the problem, not even one of the problems. But hey what do I know.

Please understand that I didn’t say this is why it isn’t competitive. I merely stated that if it was a bit more competitive, this would be a major issue.

I see, but isn’t that putting the cart ahead of the horse?

They need a bindable button like smite has to cancel skills. After starting smite last nite, I have to wonder why people bother.

A lot of elementalist play purely by rotation, so they are extremely predictable. If you have an issue with them i suggest you read all the guides or even play an ele. Once you get an understanding of the elementalist, it becomes exceedingly obvious just how predictable they are.

A lot of ele players and nothing more than gloried bots. That rely on muscle memory.

Phaeton.9582:

IMO they should rebalance the impact might has on condition damage output.

Might stacking is too easy to achieve, and if this game is ever taken to a truly competitive level a pro team could abuse this easily. Its already being done to some degree in these ele/warrior comps, and I’ve got builds that take this even further. It would be a clear nerf if there wasn’t so many other rotten mechanics which might stacking builds can stomp on.

Everybody comes up with some kitteneyed reason why Guild wars 2 pvp isn’t competitive, I honestly doubt the might problem is the reason or even one of the reason guild wars 2 PvP has issues. Might stacking is not the problem, not even one of the problems. But hey what do I know.

Design flaw.

Guild wars 2 should have had more game modes other than conquest.

Guild wars 2 should have only had 1 mode of damage, physical with condition damage existing only as a bonus damage for doing something complex. it should not have been a method of damage.

DarkWasp.7291:

On F2P, B2P and P2P: GW1 proved they could do minimal cash shop and stay afloat on game sales.

On rewards: Yes I agree completely with the idea that something that can be bought is not really a reward. We may have a ton of skins in the game already, but they aren’t really giving us a reward reason to hype/play new content.

Instead of your friends telling you:

“Hey, come check out this new Dry Top place where you can work toward ninja armor!”

It’s:

“Hey come check out this new Dry Top place! Also you can buy this ninja costume with money or go back to wherever and farm champs to get it!”

It’s just not the same. Even if you save up gems before every LS update, is that really playing the new content for the new rewards?

Actually guild wars 1 did not prove anything.

Guild wars 1 relied on stand alone content. But here is the biggest difference between guild wars 1 and 2. Guild wars 1 was initially made with far less people when gw1 was released it was made with 65 vs 250 for guild wars 2. Even with those numbers the fact that they had to keep making standalones every 6 months is a testament to that.

All of that doesn’t include the difference in size and scale of guild wars 1 vs guild wars 2. Whenever you make this back sit estimate, always remember the ROI because why invest for 5 years building guild wars 2 if the ROI is terrible. I like to think that the amount of investment Ncsoft put into guild wars 2 at least to the point where they went from 65 to currently 300 employees wasn’t small.

The point when you made your comment you probably did not think it through, but why should I be shocked a lot of players on this forum are terrible at looking pass they own noses.

Ryan.9387:

Please try to understand Smith’s explanation.

If you still don’t think that flipping is beneficial you are clearly incapable or unwilling to understand the economics and should just stop complaining here.

an MMORPG forum where uninformed players are not complaining about things they do not understand, good luck with that buddy.

Vol.7601:

Just stop Wanze. It’s a battle you cannot win >_>

Let us hang out along the Royal Terrace conducting our transactions while the peasants mingle and protest outside!

Yep. The best way to deal with crazy is to let them get tired with arguing amongst themselves. Arguing against them fuel and gives the illusion they are not making very idiotic statements.

What a terrible idea.

The fact of the matter is, even if they increase rewards as long as the TP is global flppers will always make money off the TP. Flippers rely on human beings being lazy, unless you fix the lazy in humans you cannot get rid of flipping.

Secondly, what other MMO changed their system becausae player quit and don’t say Diablo 3 because the issues gw2 has are not related to it.

ZaxanRazor.6235:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

broken mechanics ? hahahaha i defeated her with 8 orbs it is not broken mechanic it is just you

Constantly losing your target is a broken mechanic. You can’t really argue otherwise.

Also, trying to make stuff up in order to boast is really, really sad.

Buddy, there is something in the game called:Call Target, it makes it easier to reacquire target if you lose it. ANd you can use it without being in a group, it is a nice handy tool.

If you did not know about it, I can see why you lack the ability to beat Liadri.

laokoko.7403:

Behellagh.1468:

We have an explanation. The fact some don’t believe it doesn’t change it.

I dont’ think people care about the explanation. So obviously, it is not a they don’t believe factor.

The main point is they are unhappy.

People think they deserve stuff, so when they don’t get what they want.

The point being you can’t please everyone. They will always be somesone not happy especially on an mmorpg forum so u might as well not bother.

If you can afford it, buy it. Don’t listen to those people that project some stupid importance on legendary because they are nothing more than glorified skins. Why isn’t the same importance placed on any other skins, you can buy?

No offense but at 80 if you need hearts then you are definitely I have to question your skill as a player.

$60 for 1k gold? since when?

Migraine.5810:

Behellagh.1468:

No, they are only available in the kits and the kits are one use only.

That’s too bad. I’d like a permanent option with the new hairstyles.

Thanks!

And how would they make money? that is why don’t only release new options every few weeks.

If you want a perma version find a way to buy that perma hairstyle change.

Becka Williams.4978:

BobbyStein.2315:

Ice of Dragons.1637:

I didnt saw any arena net comment on our prediction lately or any comment in living world in general. I know they dont wat to spoil the conent but a few hints would be cool or at least jumping in on the discusion.

We’re pretty sensitive to giving away story spoilers, which is why I don’t often comment on Living World release speculation.

So sensitive, you refused to give out information in the actual living story itself. Yet we figured everything out anyways. Perhaps this monomaniacal focus on “spoilers” is misplaced?

That is exactly what he said, you just rephrased it for some odd reason. He doesn’t want to ruin anything, which will happen by getting involved whether by accidentally given away too much or by forcing the discussion into a specific path and destroying all the creative theories.

sorudo.9054:

if this really is GW2 then they finally worked on some skyrim-like maps, something i love to see more of

ewww, less skyrim good.

nearlight.3064:

Well Nagr, you might want to clarify that you are good enough to solo and sell arah before posting that you can make 50 gold a day. You made it sound like anyone could do that, when thats not true at all because not all of use are PVE heroes. If I melee lupi on ele in a group, I usually die, and thats because I suck at reading and reacting to his attacks. But thats fine since being a master of arah isn’t one of aspirations in this game, but its great for those who can.

What he said wasn’t wrong, it just left out some information that might be critical to certain people.

I will say that it is funny watching you spazz out at someone being better than you by calling them a PvE hero. Which is funny because if you don’t PvP or WvW, then you are in fact also a PvE hero by definition and if you PvP, it makes one question why you would want a legendary.

crafting was designed as a way to guarantee for players that hate RNG or hate dungeons gear drops, not as a way to make profit out of it.

Rym.1469:

WvWvW =/ Open PvP zone.

WvWvW maps are simply too big, too plain, have map buffs and stuff like -40% condition duration food enabled, which is a joke.

They also highly favorize zerging.

There is no clear definition of open world PvP because each player has it own silly definition. Unless a the PvP system reward noobs by letting them gank unprepared, they will usually be zergs. Since everybody would be looking for PvP and not be a sitting duck for a noob with leet gear.

In a lot of open world PvP game they is usually zerging.

Sleazebag.9427:

i would like them to add more stuff to the home instances but it seems that they gave up on the whole concept early in the game’s life. it’s a real shame.

Given how the game soon after release when through a drastic deviation, I suspect they were hoping the fix it while they work on an expansion and that totally blew in their faces.

I always laugh when people see something make inferences OR imagine it, then act shocked when it doesn’t meet reality. It is almost like everything they were expecting was imaginary.

The point being, we don’t have enough information or any information to be excited about or even start making up stuff aka expect the bare mininum when it comes to games and you will never be disappointed. Disappointment exist because YOU the player like to imagine things that will NOT match reality.

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

darkace.8925:

Celestina.2894:

darkace.8925:

Celestina.2894:

darkace.8925:

- DE 2.0 sucking all of the air out of the room
– “Collect 150 drill fragments from the rubble in Lion’s Arch” achievement
– a whole lot of bugs
– “new items in the cash shop!”.

^Lots of posts like this no matter what

I tell you what, if you can find anything in the track record ArenaNet has established for themselves that shows my expectations to be unreasonable I’ll sincerely apologize for upsetting your sensibilities.

Now now, no need for your jimmies to be rustled. I just pointed it out.

So you’ve got nothing to show my expectations to be unfounded? I didn’t think so.

Such needless antagonism. So typical of the forums…

It is typical of him. With the amount of complaining he does, sometimes valid most of the times not, it is best to let him get it out of the system and not engage him.

Even if what he said was true, I am sure even him realizes that the other options are not much better than what guild wars 2 currently has or he would be playing those other options. Or maybe he does and just enjoys trolling the forums, who knows.

^while that gives you a good estimate if you want it now and are not willing to take your time. If you are willing to take your time, after 450 it is advisable that you craft dust until 475 which will save you a lot of money then go back to following the guide.

Marcos.3690:

silvermember.8941:

Obsidia.5127:

This will do nothing for Guild Wars 2.

Whether or not it does something, how does that affect you in any reasonable way? Does it take away something from you? Are you negatively impacted by it?

If it does nothing that is fine, live goes on. Gw2 pvping not working out, is not the end of the world, afterall it is just a game.

They could use the resources and money to actually fix the game and hire someone, everyone knows really few devs work on pvp if any

A more likely scenario is they that they money they are supposedly saving doesn’t get used for anything else, since the money it cost to run the event will still be insignificant compared to hiring, training and keeping someone for more than a few months yet a lone a year.

I know right, you are probably used to a world where you don’t need to think about those stuff. Typing stuff without thinking of the consequence is the easiest way to seem clever without being clever.

Obsidia.5127:

This will do nothing for Guild Wars 2.

Whether or not it does something, how does that affect you in any reasonable way? Does it take away something from you? Are you negatively impacted by it?

If it does nothing that is fine, live goes on. Gw2 pvping not working out, is not the end of the world, afterall it is just a game.

Mystic.5934:

Master SK is far cheaper than Mystic SK
your calculate seems to ignore the cost of Mystic Forge Stones. For 516 stones at today’s gold -> gem price, that’s another 23,220 gems = 2,800 gold. So instead of 45g8s56c it’s 2845g8s56c
on the other hand, 42,955 salvages with Mystic SK costs:
42,955 / 25 = 1718.2 × 15s36c = 263g91s55c
that’s 2581g cheaper: 1/10.8 as much
sure; you could get a few stones for ‘free’ through AP chests, and those would of course yield cheaper kits. But it would take around 45,000 AP to get that many stones.

Aside from that recommendation; great spreadsheets!

If you have over a 100 mystic forge stones what would be an alternate and consistent way to use them?

Darnis.4056:

You and another player both get to a node that’s uncontested and owned by the enemy You ;
A) Leave the Point
B) Start typing for the other Player to leave so you can get the points.
C)Acquire double the Points by double capping

D) You get 1 more player for faster cap. Having 2 players on a cap is good strategy, just imagine having 3 players, 3 is always better than 1. Having lived thrice is great.

Ken DeBoer.9268:

Wanze.8410:

NuclearBuddha.8641:

Mystic.5934:

not available on the TP

http://www.gw2spidy.com/search/zealot?rarity_filter=-1&sort_name=asc

?

Edit: and

http://www.gw2spidy.com/search/keeper%27s/2?rarity_filter=-1&sort_name=asc

He is talking about the recipes from the Emmisaries form last year Pavilion, like Rune of Perplexity. They are account bound.

That was a big fail on Anet’s part. I missed one of the recipes last year and my inner completionist is crying.

So did you manage to get all those exclusive mini pets as well?

Nerelith.7360:

silvermember.8941:

You mean the same arrogance you seem very terrible at projecting? Actually, I am wrong you seem more desperate than arrogant considering you had to resort to calling others white knight.

Players like you exist in every game, even world of warcraft has delusional players such as yourself the delude themselves into believing WOW is going to die because they don’t like the game.

Guild wars 2 has been out for 666 days and so far it is looking more healthier than games that were recently released. If guild wars 2 isn’t dead by now, it wont be dead due to whatever nonexistent reasons you want to give. It will go down due to its inevitable decline like every mmo does.

I would Hope I was terrible at projecting arrogance, since I do not consider myself arrogant, so thank you for the compliment.

That out of the way. Gw2 has flaws. There exist in every forum white knights that champion the company, regardless of the merits. They feel it is their responsibility, as a fan of the product to defend it regardless of whjether the faults are real or imagined, and whether their defence is based On logic or passion. They will resort to any and all methods to get " the enemy" to quiet down.

I am not saying anything you don’t Know, it just seems that me saying it upsets you.

Yes there are also people that will trash the game Just as passionately. …

I am not among them, I defended Anet, when it made decisions worth defending. I explained why I felt some choices made made sense. But at the same time, I am aware, that Anet is fallible.

So calling out faults of a product I payed for…is perfectly within my rights. And mentioning that there is White Knighting going on, may not be something people that enjoy the game like to hear, but it is the truth, as it is true On Wow forums, or ESO forums, or TSW forums..etc…

Or are you saying that white knights do not post on the gw2 forums?

You might not think you are arrogant but your posts say otherwise. Only an terrible arrogant person would believe just because they hate the game’s direction means the game is going to die. It is the same idiotic arguments a lot of players made when guild wars 2 first came out, when ascended gear was introduce and when the LS was announced. So there is a history of people trying to project their view onto others.

There is nothing inherently wrong with calling out a product flaws. The problem as shown by this thread is that a lot of people are calling out flaws out of ignorance. Their whole argument is based on the lack of understanding on how the system works. You see players complaining how TP player make more money than farming, but without understanding the why. YOu see others complain about the gold to gem ratio without understanding why.

The biggest source of your arrogance is your usage of the word white knight. You are so deluded into believing that anybody that doesn’t accept your point of view is clearly white knight and not someone who simply disagrees with you. A lot of people for example hate the LS, I like the concept of it because it is different than the same crap I have played for nearly 7 years, it has some flaws but what doesn’t. But if you were to read the forum, some people want WOW raid and so anybody that doesn’t want WOW raid is a white knight, anybody that dares to disagree with them is a white knight.

tl;dr
arrogant players consider opinions that make guild wars 2 different from the WOWs, ESO etc to be the white knights and not someone who has a different opinion from theirs.

A lot of players usually claim to want something different the truth is, they want the same thing but somehow different.

Nerelith.7360:

silvermember.8941:

Nerelith.7360:

Devata.6589:

Aleglast.6027:

Devata.6589:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

There is nothing to fix because nothing is broken.

You can still get the same 1600 gems for $20 that you could when the game launched.

First of all, thats not playing the game. That is supporting the downfall of the game.

Secondly, those 20 dollar get you much more gold now. That is a problem.

Thats a problem? rewarding people who support the game? how is giving the company money supporting its downfall? are you insane? do you think about these things before you wright them?

Yes and I am saying that for over a year now.

Spending money on gems is supporting it’s downfall. It’s not supporting the game.

How is it better for the quality of a game to have haircuts available in a cash-shop then having a barber in the game?

How is having this endless boring gold-grind any good for the game?

How is having ‘cool’ items mainly bing in the cash-shop in stead of mainly in the game a positive?

How is having instruments in a cash-shop better then having a musician craft in the game.

How is it better to not being able to hunt down mini’s in the game-world as game-play but having most mini’s in the cash-shop (more gold-grind) or cash.

All that stuff it not better for the game. It’s taking elements out of the game, it has made the game a big gold-grind and so has only made the game worse. By buying gems that is exactly what you are supporting so yes that is bad for the game.

Wrote a whole topic about it: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/A-focus-on-micro-transactions/page/3#post3593248 Have a read.

I agree. By buying gems Under this environment you send a message to the developers that you are perfectly happy if all the cool stuff is hidden behind the gem store. While very little actually makes it’s way to the game.

Another game that tried this was Tera. I remember these very discussions In Tera’s forums.

It’s Interesting that people were saying then." Gw2 just came out, am leaving this to go play Gw2,. the cash shop centric game this has turned to, is Not something I will support." and people there …railed as many here are railing now.

They also said " They will be back, they always come back."

Where is Tera now?

Your argument seem to forget something VERY critical about TERA and it is that TERA was a terrible game, the only good thing was the combat and they still manage to ruin it by making all skills lock you down.

The game failed even in Korea and they are more acceptable to the game’s mechanics.

Also show me a game forum that isn’t polluted with whining and QQs? People will always complain some because of genuine concern others because they think they deserve more than they actually do, like the OP.

There is a commonality with Gw2 forums though. The same Arrogant attitude. “They will come back, they always come back.”

Then when “they” don’t, and the game fails, players that are white knights that defend all actions By Anet, even actions that were they in some other game would make people wonder….. look around and ask.’ why are servers merging ( oops been tere, done that… i.e. Megaserver)… Why are people leaving???"

Jus’ sayin…. I can understand Liking a game, but white knighting it against all grievances??

• points to Tera’s corpse.* " There but by the Graces of the Six… go you."

You mean the same arrogance you seem very terrible at projecting? Actually, I am wrong you seem more desperate than arrogant considering you had to resort to calling others white knight.

Players like you exist in every game, even world of warcraft has delusional players such as yourself the delude themselves into believing WOW is going to die because they don’t like the game.

Guild wars 2 has been out for 666 days and so far it is looking more healthier than games that were recently released. If guild wars 2 isn’t dead by now, it wont be dead due to whatever nonexistent reasons you want to give. It will go down due to its inevitable decline like every mmo does.

Nerelith.7360:

Devata.6589:

Aleglast.6027:

Devata.6589:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

There is nothing to fix because nothing is broken.

You can still get the same 1600 gems for $20 that you could when the game launched.

First of all, thats not playing the game. That is supporting the downfall of the game.

Secondly, those 20 dollar get you much more gold now. That is a problem.

Thats a problem? rewarding people who support the game? how is giving the company money supporting its downfall? are you insane? do you think about these things before you wright them?

Yes and I am saying that for over a year now.

Spending money on gems is supporting it’s downfall. It’s not supporting the game.

How is it better for the quality of a game to have haircuts available in a cash-shop then having a barber in the game?

How is having this endless boring gold-grind any good for the game?

How is having ‘cool’ items mainly bing in the cash-shop in stead of mainly in the game a positive?

How is having instruments in a cash-shop better then having a musician craft in the game.

How is it better to not being able to hunt down mini’s in the game-world as game-play but having most mini’s in the cash-shop (more gold-grind) or cash.

All that stuff it not better for the game. It’s taking elements out of the game, it has made the game a big gold-grind and so has only made the game worse. By buying gems that is exactly what you are supporting so yes that is bad for the game.

Wrote a whole topic about it: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/A-focus-on-micro-transactions/page/3#post3593248 Have a read.

I agree. By buying gems Under this environment you send a message to the developers that you are perfectly happy if all the cool stuff is hidden behind the gem store. While very little actually makes it’s way to the game.

Another game that tried this was Tera. I remember these very discussions In Tera’s forums.

It’s Interesting that people were saying then." Gw2 just came out, am leaving this to go play Gw2,. the cash shop centric game this has turned to, is Not something I will support." and people there …railed as many here are railing now.

They also said " They will be back, they always come back."

Where is Tera now?

Your argument seem to forget something VERY critical about TERA and it is that TERA was a terrible game, the only good thing was the combat and they still manage to ruin it by making all skills lock you down.

The game failed even in Korea and they are more acceptable to the game’s mechanics.

Also show me a game forum that isn’t polluted with whining and QQs? People will always complain some because of genuine concern others because they think they deserve more than they actually do, like the OP.

Zaoda.1653:

silvermember.8941:

Zaoda.1653:

The price for 100 gems is insane now. 11-13g? :-/ like another person said, I feel sorry for new players!

How exactly does cash shop access affect new players?

I thought it would kinda be common sense, but…

When you’re new you don’t have much gold, and if you want stuff from the gemstore, you’re going to have to get rich fast – especially if there is something in the store that you want but is only on for a limited time and you don’t want to spend real life money on it.

I think you are conflating entitlement with common sense, but why should I be shocked. Give a man an inch and they demand a foot.

I also thought it was common sense that you don’t NEED anything in the cash shop to play or enjoy the game. So as a new player it really doesn’t matter if you cant afford anything in the cash shop because you are not suppose to. If you don’t have gold, use cash, if you don’t have cash use gold and if you dont have gold and don’t want to spend cash, you don’t deserve anything from the cash shop.

I know it is hard, when you THINK you are ENTITLED to stuff. Eventually, you are going to have to get over it, this one of those things that ARenanet will never change since for most reasonable people, the current system is sufficient.

snow.8097:

and in 6 months 1g is 1gem worth and anet gonna swim in Money because no one can buy the gem stuff with Gold anymore and pays real Money for new skins
longtime Mission completed anet

I don’t think anet cares if you can’t buy stuff with gold, they would prefer $$. Using gold to get gems was a brilliant ploy to get more players tempted to buy more gems. As gems to gold raises more players become tempted to do $$ to gem to gold.

A for profit is always looking at ways to make profit.

Charak.9761:

I made 200k gold

But iunno what else to buy

You could donate it. You could do what scrogged mcduck and swim in it. Or buy someone random player the anomaly.

Zaoda.1653:

The price for 100 gems is insane now. 11-13g? :-/ like another person said, I feel sorry for new players!

How exactly does cash shop access affect new players?

phys.7689:

Behellagh.1468:

silvermember.8941:

Behellagh.1468:

So we went from discussing inflation back to the old standby of “fair” earning per hour.

If Wanze makes a ton of money per week from players not willing to be smart about buying and selling on the TP, good for him.

but it is not fair because for some reason video games specifically MMO have always been a bastion of fairness.

[sardonic]

I think it’s more EGO self gratification. Only LEET players with SKILZ should earn the most and get the best items. Therefore displaying them proudly on your character is proof of your greatness. Any game play that opposes that is a sign of the game being broken. Allowing players to buy such an item with earnings from sources that aren’t rewards from being a LEET player with SKILZ tarnishes the rep of that item which in turn diminishes their use as symbol of a players greatness.

So therefore it burns their buns when a player can earn money doing an activity that doesn’t highlight SKILZ. But it turns out that it’s because these LEET players are actually the ones throwing their “excess” gold to those who understand how to gather it for themselves on the TP.

So sure, your skills rescued the Queen in record time but all that loot you simply dumped onto the TP as fast as possible (kitten error selling bug slowing you down), well a TP master was able to turn a profit on them because you couldn’t be bothered to spend the 5 minutes earning it yourself. It’s the age old Brains vs Brawn rivalry. And like the tech industry in the real world, brains win. And this ticks off brawn to no end.

i dont believe every reward should be focused on leet player with skills, but they should have some things that you can best obtain by reaching that level. I think that ideally, they would reward different players diffierently appropriate to their chosen playstyles, and have the rewards get better as you progress in that content, whether that be through leet skills, time put in, or ingenuity.
An even more ideal structure would some how reward players for adding value to the game, but that would be complex to design.

But to the point of the thread, rare items will always be expensive with this system, and will generally move out of reach until the people with greater resources get theirs first, essentially lowering demand. It doesnt have to be inflation for this to occur. In fact such items can go up in value even while general earning and many other items stay the same or maintain their value.

This is basically the way this system will express itself given the right circumstances.

How do you define a leet player? Everything in PvE can be accomplished either by persistence or by following a guide some better player has made for you. The point being there is no such thing as some leet level.

So how exactly do you define leet?

Just like in life, wealth favors the lucky and the most intelligent, it doesn’t reward the foot soldier, it never can because being a foot soldier is a matter of following a guide presented to you by dulfy. If you give everybody something, you end up giving them nothing.

Anyways, your suggestions will never really work unless they completely get rid of player’s laziness or lack of foresight which is the driving force behind the fastest way to acquire gold.

Behellagh.1468:

So we went from discussing inflation back to the old standby of “fair” earning per hour.

If Wanze makes a ton of money per week from players not willing to be smart about buying and selling on the TP, good for him.

but it is not fair because for some reason video games specifically MMO have always been a bastion of fairness.