Guild Wars 2

BurningHeavy.7268:

TheOrlyFactor.8341:

Nice to see the raiding community is consistent in being awful as usual. :^)

Why? Boss has dps checks, low dps players get kicked. This is the most logical thing possible! It used to be it didn’t matter how good you were, if you werent running a meta class (read ele) and the group wiped due to lack of dps you were kicked. Terrible eles were filling groups and doing pathetic dps, but since they were meta (because if you’re good the potential dps is through the roof)they’d never get kicked. Now WITH dps meters I DON’T get kicked because my guard pushes 17k dps while eles doing 300dps DO get kicked. It’s fair! I won’t argue that gear score/ilevel is bull kitten but dps meters? no son.

I agree with your comment so much.

And sorry, i have to question the intentions of people rejecting dps meters. If you have low dps and they let you know or they even kick you out of the party, they are giving you a chance to improve.

If you don’t want to improve, why should they be carrying you? What kind of people expect to ruin 9 people’s experience because they are not willing to cooperate?

If you do want to improve, they are just telling you and they probably can give you hints. Even using the dpsmeter yourself would be a great idea. Don’t know why anyone would settle for mediocre performance for life. knowing this is a team game.

Doflamingo.6957:

The sudden shift to the story direction that ArenaNet took isn’t really good at all. Guild Wars 2 was unique because it was focused on the Elder Dragons as main antagonists and each expansion was supposed to be based on one of them but for some reason they gave up on that with living world season 3 and changed it to other random things making it impossible to kill another dragon in next expansion which is a turndown. We waited for so long to find out which Elder Dragon we will fight next only for them to change their mind and give up on the unique story it had.

i am glad it shifted from killing dragons to killing anything else. Once you kill your first dragon, it stops being epic. Any skyrim player can tell you that.

At least now they can take the story wherever they want and create more engaging things than: “dragon awakes, causes mayhem, we kill him, rinse and repeat”.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Well I see we have taken one step closer to being just another run of the mill generic MMO with the addition of mounts. So next xpac we will end up with gear progression. I mean we’ve had everything else added now that every other MMO under the sun has. Why stop now?.

Oh, so you bought into that?

Marketing guy: Tired of the old and tired carrot and stick formula? we are making a completely different MMO. It will not have mounts, or capes, or raids, or decent dungeons like those other successful mmos. No, this one… will NOT have raids, will NOT have mounts, will NOT have decent dungeons… See? there’s no carrot and stick, if there’s no carrot, and no stick!

Except, they forgot to add something to replace all that missing content with. Especially, challenging one, like raids and good dungeons.

So players started requesting the things they missed from other mmos, not necessarily because they needed them, but because they felt the game was lacking and they resorted to comparing to what they already knew.

So gw2 added more gear to grind, new dungeons that at first felt like developers trolling players, raids and now, yes, mounts. Out of all these things, i only tried the dungeons, i reluctantly equipped one or two characters with ascended, and i tried to pug the raids on launch but i didn’t have much time to play during those days.

Now, the mounts, unless they make it some superexpensive stuff, look like new fun ways to explore maps, new things to collect… if this is getting closer to other mmos, i think it’s closer in a good way. GW2 still does a lot of things better than most mmos. And still suffers in other areas. Let them keep improving.

But, a game can never be better for what it doesn’t offer. It can only be better if the content if offers is good.

Squee.7829:

Aenesthesia.1697:

xikira.3264:

In the new expansion please give the option to hide mounts. Also give the option for us to do the story and get to places without using them. This is a win win people that want their mounts get them and the ones that dont won’t have to.
I was extremely excited the the expansion until I learned about the mounts. If this problem would be fixed I would be all abored the hype train again. I’m pretty sure a lot of the people that are unhappy with the mounts probably feel the same way.

what problem do you have with mounts? I wasn’t expecting them but i don’t see how they can hurt. Asking to remove them is like asking to remove the masteries. Why would a player close their mind to new additions to gameplay?

These aren’t even remotely the same thing. He’s not asking to remove mounts. HIDING a thing and removing them are entirely different things.

he is asking to hide them and remove the elements of gameplay that make them useful. He intends to play without mounts. For what purpose i don’t know. If it’s because of immersion, this game killed immersion forever when it introduced the waypoints in the storilyne.

WARIORSCHARGEING.2637:

no 4K support no crossfire or SLI support . as well as no multi core or ryzen thread ripper or intell I-7 8 and 10 core support

after seeing the announcement for Path of fire and looking at the specs for this new shiny pack . i find it a no buy at all unless specs get changed again , as of right now

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but those that do buy the new pack hope you fully enjoy it and it brings you many good hours of fun play time .

i don’t follow. What pc do you have? which processor? which gpu? or does your pc run Intel, AMD and Nvidia at the same time? Maybe you cool it with unobtanium?

Or are you just waiting for anet to release a higher specced game to justify your next pc purchase?

In the end, you wish all the other players to have fun, which is the only thing that matters when you are playing a game…

Starpilot.7312:

Hi everyone, im stuck on whether i should buy Twilight or the new Expansion i have 100$ and i was wondering is it worth just buying the legendary off the traderpost or getting the Expansion instead. Thanks

trust me, the only legendary thing about the legendary, is the grind to get it. Once you have the legendary, you will see that it was money burnt/time lost.

Also, there are tons of really nice greatswords in the game. I am telling you this because i farmed my ass off for the twilight and now only use it in one of my 8 characters. The others use more appropriate swords.

Buy the expansion, it’s extra content you can enjoy.

xikira.3264:

In the new expansion please give the option to hide mounts. Also give the option for us to do the story and get to places without using them. This is a win win people that want their mounts get them and the ones that dont won’t have to.
I was extremely excited the the expansion until I learned about the mounts. If this problem would be fixed I would be all abored the hype train again. I’m pretty sure a lot of the people that are unhappy with the mounts probably feel the same way.

what problem do you have with mounts? I wasn’t expecting them but i don’t see how they can hurt. Asking to remove them is like asking to remove the masteries. Why would a player close their mind to new additions to gameplay?

What do you mean by impossible story steps? I completed the story this week, with jet lag and a 1 second lag because of either the lousy internet connection in my hotel or the fact i am connected to the european server from Singapore. I found it quite easy, except for the final encounter where i died a couple of times.

mooseface.3025:

OP

Two things:

- crafting is a mess. It has been for quite some time. it is incredibly expensive to gather the mats, and takes time to craft the items. And that’s provided you already leveled your crafting skills.

- however, you don’t need ascended gear for the new maps. I have 8 toons, only one in ascended, and they all went through HOT without any ascended (well, maybe a weapon here, a trinket there). Some of them went through HOT without any trinket at all, as they were new toons and i just wanted the hero points to fully unlock the elite spec. It’s just a matter of knowing which fights to pick. You can’t expect to solo all the hero challenges, you need the help of a punchbag eeer, i mean, friend, for many of them (and still, in my last run, i soloed many challenges that i thought were impossible to solo, with my new ranger, with no trinkets and no sigils…

TLDR: crafting is a mess indeed, but you don’t need it. Rise up and shine!

Djinn.9245:

Just to offset the kneejerk GW2 defenders, I want to support the OP (if he’s still reading) …..

OP, keep in mind that those who think there is no problem either think that because they are naturally good at playing / making their characters “meta”, or they have played the game so much that they became good. Not all GW2 players are in that same situation even if the “defenders” would have you believe it.

Ok, i can be called many things, but kneejerk gw2 defender is definitely not one of those. I ’ve criticized this game many times, and defended some things many other times.

The game does have different challenge tiers.

0 would be the open world. You can barely die there, if at all. Sometimes you go for a glass of water and BAM! next thing you know you are dead when you come back. kitten happens.

1 would be the vanilla personal story. I may have died there when levellling some classes, due to not properly knowing how to use the class, or being half asleep.

4 would be dungeons. The first time you do them they are really challenging. They can be very challenging too, if you run full glass cannon with a group of bad glass cannons. It’s kill before they whack you, and the open world doesn’t prepare you for this.

5 may be the personal HOT story. I don’t know, i did it with my necro and it was easy, but necro usually makes everything easy and reaper made it even easier, so i wouldn’t say it’s going to be easy for everybody.

6 is probably open world HOT. If you haven’t played dungeons and went from vanilla story to this, boy are you going to suffer. Even if you have some skill, you will learn that there are some fights that are not worth picking. Don’t fight that elite smokescale with your shortbow thief!

8 is fractals, the highest levels. People playing there forget how tough they are because they have played them so many times, but for a newbie high level fractals are a no no.

10 is sPVP. No matter how skilled you get, you end up being pitched against equally skilled players. PVP really forces you to learn how to master your class and then playing the rest of the game is just a matter of having the right tools for the job.

Note: i didn’t rate raids because my playing schedule makes it almost impossible to be logged long enough to form a group and actually get to try the content. I tried at launch, and after spending more hours waiting than playing, decided raids were not for me until my kids grow older and become independant.

My Ele Y spent some time in the mists, and these lousy wings are all she brought back…

If you want floating, why not get the electromagnetic glider? (I think it’s called that way). It’s a really cheap toy that will have your ele floating whenever he/she is not in combat. Also has some flashy particle effects.

OriOri.8724:

Leather has gotten very expensive, and ANet will be implementing a way to farm leather soon. But it doesn’t cost 50 gold to make an exotic insignia. It costs 10-15 gold depending on the stats you want. Whether or not exotic insignias should be this expensive or not is up for debate (I think they should be cheaper considering exotics are mostly used by newer players who don’t have that much money), but they don’t cost 50 gold

Viper’s intricate gossamer insignia requires 5 gossamer patches. Each patch requires 10 cured hardened leather squares. each square sells for 1g, you do the math.

drunkenpilot.9837:

Nah. It’s not that bad, disregard the melodrama. For those who have been away for several years, PvP has been totally revamped since you last played, and while it’s true that HoT power creep has caused many old builds to be obsolete, PvP and WvW are not the total disaster that Deceiver would have you believe.

i’d say pvp is in a terrible spot right now. A few days ago i spent a couple of hours fighting a player who had destroyed me in a match, in a personal arena. It was the most fun pvp experience i’ve had in this game.

What kills it in conquest mode? the spamming. Every skill now procs 2-3 effects, and the cooldowns are very short. This means that in a team fight all hell breaks lose and the team with the longest invulnerabilities or better resurrect skills wins the fight. Also, there’s so much area cc being thrown around that it gets really frustrating.

The fact you have to fight over nodes and run against the timer to cap them, means that you cannot fight strategically, you have to fully commit and destroy your oponent in seconds or be ready to be ganked by his teammates.

1v1 are actually fun, but there’s no game mode that takes advantage of a more strategic, less spamy pvp.

i liked housing in skyrim, since it was MY game, and i would spend time playing anywhere without affecting other player’s quality of game.

But, being this an open world MMO, anything that keeps players in their own little space, apart from the open world, effectively worsens everyone’s experience.

The challenge for the developers, is to get people out in the open world, so it doesn’t look deserted, and housing goes the opposite way.

Seriously, the cost of the leather has gone out of control.

It now costs 50+ gold to make an exotic insignia, just for the leather, without taking other materials into account. So an exotic set costs 300g just for the insignias, if you are to craft it.

It’s actually cheaper to craft one ascended greatsword, than what it costs to craft exotic medium gloves!!!!

And leveling leatherworking past 400 seems like burning gold right now.

Can anet address this situation? this makes armor crafting completely useless, as there are a lot more time-efficient ways to get the same pieces of armor.

DeadlyDahlia.9102:

This is an amazing shot Aenesthesia! What do you use for your screenshots? (or do you just have great graphics specs and amazing timing?)

Thanks! for my screenshots, i just max everything (FPS falls to 5 or 6), adjust the camera settings till i get the framing I want, and time the shot to get a cool pose. In this case that wasn’t necessary because i was using the electromagnetic slider. Anet really went cheap with the animation (or lack of) but it makes for some cool pics.

Miki Zu Heltzer.4018:

Remade my Sylvari ele into a human tempest.

wow, hadn’t seen the first pic. Such a cool shot!

Here’s mine, enjoying her new toys:

Cynz.9437:

They admitted that matchmaking builds one team that has high chance to win vs team that has way lesser chance to win. T

this is not what they admitted.

They said, and it’s true by empirical evidence, that you are matched against any team within a certain range of pips in your division. that team can be better a lot better, similar or worse than yours. You don’t know, and the only way to know is by winning (or losing) the match.

it’s the fairest possible method: if you are better than your division, you advance. If you are not, you get stuck.

The only hard part is actually measuring how good a player is and finding teammates with similar skill. but it holds true for season 1, 2 and 3.

what’s stagnant about this meta? it’s the meta that promotes active defense, good positioning, dodging….

Increasing damage dealt by defensive buids promotes standing in one place dealing damage while some other guy saves your kitten, or while you tank the damage. What’s the point in it?

Krysard.1364:

Actually I would say that reapers negate revs 1v1, but revs negate reapers when teamfighting.

How can that be? unrelenting assault damage is laughable when in teamfights. Rev buffs provide a good source of damage vs the other team, via corrupt boon, and your teammates can help you with the burst needed to down the rev while in a 1v1 they should be able to evade all your damaging moves.

Ennui.1597:

Aenesthesia.1697:

Ennui.1597:

I’m the guy you don’t want in ranked pvp… and I’m playing in ranked pvp. I’m not competitive. I’m erratic in my performance. Sometimes I do everything right and am a statistically significant factor in the success of my solo queue team. Sometimes I make the mistake that costs my team the match (I would argue that many of us do; such is human).

I play leagues to have fun, because there’s no point in competition if you don’t care about the outcome. The grind comes from repeating an activity on auto pilot. PVP leagues cannot be efficiently played in auto pilot. You have to win THIS match. You hate it if you lose THIS chance to advance division. That’s where the fun is. The other team may be the greatest ever, but i have to beat them nonetheless, or i lose my precious PIPs. There’s a real challenge. There’s real competition. There’s of course frustration and salt if all goes wrong.

Exactly. My point was more about me coming into leagues with a very casual mindset and thus being a little more casual in my gameplay. It’s one thing for top players to make mistakes, but it’s another for someone like me to come in all “easy come, easy go” when my teammates are there to win. I let myself get dragged into leagues because it was new and shiny, but it’s probably not the place for me to be, which is okay, but in the future I should really respect competitive players’ territory. Monster of a run-on there, but you get my point.

believe me, if you are a few pips away from legendary, you are not nearly as casual as you think you are…

Asrat.2645:

…..actual existence of mmrhell has been statistically proven.
It is a fact that the algorithm keeps players down, tho its just a minority.

it’s just a minority that are being treated like kitten by mm and knowing that still refuse to find other players to play with and keep complaining about their kittenty mmr….

Sirendor.1394:

Aenesthesia.1697:

Jana.6831:

Anet, could you please stop this nonsense by balancing your game?

I’m sick of the daily “THIEF ADVISE” threads written by noobs who think they can tell a thief how to play because they’re really good in this faceroll meta – slowclap

the problem is not the balance.

It’s that 9 out of 10 thieves don’t know how to play. How do i know this? because 1 out of 10 thieves completely destroys my necro. Of the rest, 1 tries but ends up fleeing, 8 die.

while i do a decent necro, i am not even close to great, so if regular thieves cannot kill a decent necro with no life force, chances are they cannot kill anything. The fact that some thieves not only can kill, but completely destroy me, means the average thieve sucks.

What did I just read?

First you say ‘balance is not the problem’. Then you say ‘1/10 thieves wins against me on necro, and i’m only decent’. This proves that balance IS the problem… No, the 9 other thieves do not suck. The 1 thief that beats you is the exception. Thief class is just not as viable as the other classes.

thief is not balanced to beat other professions if you don’t play well. It’s balanced to destroy some professions if you play great.

The fact that it has a higher skill floor doesn’t mean it’s unbalanced, the skill ceiling is also higher.

Most of the thieves that complain just don’t know how to play well enough. I’ve seen many thieves carrying their team hard. they are so mobile they can have a big impact in the game, provided they don’t go to die at far at the start and keep dying from there on.

chill damage is laughable, and the skill can and should be avoided easily by everyone that’s not being ccd already.

the ice field is what makes the skill worthy, as hitting somebody with it is almost impossible, at least you create some preassure on point.

Cecilia.5179:

Weren’t condi necros hard counters to revenant? When did this change?

in a group fight yes, condi necros melt revs because they cannot keep up with the aoe and when they block we can still hurt them, so they cannot shake the pressure.

but in a 1v1, i feel like i don’t output enough damage to keep up with them. They can negate my bursts while dealing damage at the same time, and then my unblockable condis don’t kill them as quickly as their direct damage kills me. I think it’s the only matchup I almost always lose.

but i have to say i don’t recall receiving 7k damage from their staff#5 ever.

Gittons.8510:

I want to know what you guys think and i am speaking about PvE here and not pvp unlike…80% of the internet oddly enough but reaper has completely ruined me for other classes, to do massive dmg with decent self healing all i need to do is pop 2 wells, which on there own does thousands of dps, use a focus to get like 10 vul instantly, go greatsword to boost that to max vul and blind and then reaper shroud and just melt everything while my flesh golem’s ability to eat defiance bars for breakfast means that cc is easy too and i also have a lot of condition removal as well.
my issue with that is that does insane dmg, frankly absurd and yet it is so easy, dagger m1 alone can churn out dmg with vamp healing that would make other classes blush, it is too easy,
no positioning,
no juggling 30 skills,
no timing or massive combos to worry about,

so i go from that easy and fairly tanky classes to others and i feel just so much more weaker, having to juggle dozens of things like engineers or the whole thing with traps and positions with dragon hunter feels so much more weaker but takes more effort and high dps classes like warrior do not have the healing that reaper has by far, so the classes feel either weak as paper or fragile as glass and yet takes so much more effort and learning to even do.

anybody else have this issue? i regret having reaper as my first character so much, anybody got any idea how to un-ruin myself from this? i want to enjoy all the classes, so much unique style to them all but i just can not when i know i can press like 8 buttons on my other character and destroy everything.

if you take the time to learn, you can play with any class. Unlocking reaper in HOT maps was one of the easiest things, but i also breezed past it as 6 more professions. Some professions are not as tanky, but have a much more dynamic playstyle and are a lot better at supporting allies and messing up with enemies.

Ennui.1597:

I’m the guy you don’t want in ranked pvp… and I’m playing in ranked pvp. I’m not competitive. I’m erratic in my performance. Sometimes I do everything right and am a statistically significant factor in the success of my solo queue team. Sometimes I make the mistake that costs my team the match (I would argue that many of us do; such is human).

You make it sound like competitive players don’t make mistakes that cost their team the match, or always play the same way.

I’ve seen leeto on his way to legendary, not using his heal when he was half dead (and ended up dying) or not preventing a burst with RS when he had it coming, dying far from points, all sorts of mistakes, you name them. It’s only normal. We are all humans, and the guy plays so much he is bound to commit mistakes unless he can keep his concentrarion for 20 hours, which nobody normally can.

I play leagues to have fun, because there’s no point in competition if you don’t care about the outcome. The grind comes from repeating an activity on auto pilot. PVP leagues cannot be efficiently played in auto pilot. You have to win THIS match. You hate it if you lose THIS chance to advance division. That’s where the fun is. The other team may be the greatest ever, but i have to beat them nonetheless, or i lose my precious PIPs. There’s a real challenge. There’s real competition. There’s of course frustration and salt if all goes wrong.

Embrace it.

Or quit.

Jana.6831:

Anet, could you please stop this nonsense by balancing your game?

I’m sick of the daily “THIEF ADVISE” threads written by noobs who think they can tell a thief how to play because they’re really good in this faceroll meta – slowclap

the problem is not the balance.

It’s that 9 out of 10 thieves don’t know how to play. How do i know this? because 1 out of 10 thieves completely destroys my necro. Of the rest, 1 tries but ends up fleeing, 8 die.

while i do a decent necro, i am not even close to great, so if regular thieves cannot kill a decent necro with no life force, chances are they cannot kill anything. The fact that some thieves not only can kill, but completely destroy me, means the average thieve sucks.

Banning would be too much, but i agree something should be done about it. I played against a team with 2 eles and two rangers and it was impossible to kill anyone.

The worst part, though, was that once we capped a point, the people in my team would leave it completely unguarded, meaning they didn’t have to fight to retake it and it was the same impossible to win fight all over again.

shagwell.1349:

Check the gold flow and ban. Oh wait, Anet doesn’t even ban for afk, language or leaving. Just delete the game

Ban why? Is there any punishment for trying to win matches?

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

In the end players who soloq in a team setting do so because they feel/realize they have the choice between trying alone or not at all a lot of the time. Why do you think soloq is so popular? It answer an obvious demand.

Reasoning the way you do is akin to telling a homeless person to get a home to change her life. As if she didn’t wanted to. The problem obviously isn’t her not wanting.

As to why solo q is popular, in season 1 you actually got punished for teaming up with people if you weren’t already good as a team, as the system whould pitch you against high mmr teams.

Season 2 should have destroyed soloq. Yet sill people insist in banging their heads against the same wall while complaining it’s too tough. Yeah, it’s too tough alright… it’s a wall!

I know it’s not always easy to find a decent group to play with. I almost always play after 1 am, so go tell me. The players i knew that got me out of the mmr hell in amber are no longer playing, and my guild mates completely passed on pvp since HOT came out, and they just hit sapphire in a week of playtime, but never played with me.

So I know it’s not that easy, but you have to factor what is worse: playing one more match with the ugly thief that suicides far at the start of the match, or spending the same time looking for a group.

the difference with the homeless, is that the homeless actually cannot get herself a home. Any player can get himself one or two players to team up with.

Ithilwen.1529:

I feel like I got led into trying an impossible task just to be another body in pvp for the elites to beat on.*

Right now I feel I ought to give up on this game.

You attempted to try a very possible task, whithout checking what the real requirements were, just to find out you don’t have what it takes to succeed.

You should give up on this game if it’s not fun for you. Period. Getting some rare wings has nothing to do with that.

aaha, this is so true!

every time i run ele, i stay on point eating kitten like crazy while my glass teammates stay miles away from me, my auras and my heals, doing miserable damage. Don’t they teach you to fight on point on elementary school?

This is almost as bad as the thieves commiting suicide on far at the start of the match. No, actually, it is worse, since it guarantees a full wipe.

Well, Tenebria, the thing is, that, while MMR hell is real, it’s 100% the player’s fault.

Because, as you state, your calculations are for SOLO QEUE players. So yes, for a stubborn player that refuses to team up even after seeing how his teammates’ quality quickly deteriorates after a 10 losing streak, it can be hell, but a hell of his own making.

I am now in such a position, after reaching ruby t3, i am now back in t1 with a 10 loss streak. Some of the games i lost were really close calls (5 points), so not all hope is lost, but it’s obvious for me that each game is going to get worse than the later, so I am in this difficult position where i have to either:

a- play one more game, knowing i will be fighting against odds.
b- quit playing. I am not going to reach diamond a this rate so, who cares? i can always go unranked and train my revenant. it’s said they are op, anyway.
c- find some decent players to team up with, so I won’t care what my MMR is.

If I choose option a, I am clearly sealing my fate.

If i choose b, i will get better for next season, and it’s likely i’ll get more wins by adding some offensive support and quick rez/stomping to my team, while right now i can only efficiently play defense (elementalist) and offense (necro), two roles that are usually covered easily.

If i choose c, i will have my destiny in my hands, and not in the hands of the MMR. My mmr will improve as i win more games and eventually i’ll be able to solo qeue again.

i think it’s a no-brainer.

Supreme.3164:

I don’t think there is much space for discussion here once again, I mean every TOP player has confirmed that right now ele can’t 1vs1 anything as there is no dmg whatsoever and all that’s left is a healbot build that accomplish nothing on its own.

At this point asking for more nerfs on ele it’s not sad..it’s not laughable…it’s just pathetic and pitiful

that what i thought… i mean, elementalists do fine as support only nowadays, and only as long as they don’t get heavy cced+burst. So this guy wants to remove the support capability. Good. Eles are still good for pve, luckily.

TPMN.1483:

And here in lies the problem – personal MMR (profession based) does not = team based MMR.

4 thiefs + 1 War (Above average MMR on individual classes/account)
VS
1 Necro, Ele, Engineer, Thief, War (Average MMR)

The Above average MMR team lost – 500v100.
The problem is the above average MMR team couldnt reroll alts – it didnt go well as a team comp. The above average MMR team loses MMR.

uh, why didn’t they reroll? You get the worst team comp ever and no one changes profession? They deserved to lose.

NeXeD.3042:

Aenesthesia.1697:

Buffalo Bruiser.3567:

It’s matchmaking period. Teams with higher individual MMR players are matched against teams with lower individual MMR ratings.

THAT’S MATCHMAKING.

Now if you want to type out your monologue about why players earn lower MMR, be my guest.

This is actually a better description:

Teams with any mmr are matched against teams with any mmr. The best team wins.

Say whatever you want. Before the match, you don’t know if the enemy is better or worse, you don’t know if they will play as a team or as @ssholes. You don’t know nothing, but the things you know about yourself. What the op is giving you, is tools to improve yourself, and improve your team also. The enemy team can have any given mmr, you have to beat them nontheless, or you won’t get your next pip.

So essentially everyone should worry about what they are doing to help the game rather than yell at teammates for doing something they probably shouldn’t have. Instead try to adapt accordingly.

exactly!

yelling at teammates may help them realise they are doing someting wrong, but usually people are put off by the yelling and don’t learn kitten. So your efforts are better spent trying to coordinate the mess you have.

also, you never know if the opposing team is not having internal trouble too.

jessiestiles.9437:

Matchmaking from the perspective of a season 2 legendary player:

“Look, I know matchmaking isn’t perfect. I had two loses on my way to legendary. TWO!! It could be better but it is better than last season. Last season was a struggle and had nothing to do with skill. The reason I couldn’t win last season was because of my teammates. I don’t understand why people are complaining. All my teammates this season are awesome. It’s so easy and nothing to do with matchmaking. Git gud punk.”

Matchmaking from a ruby season 1 and ruby on my way to diamond season 2 player:

season 1 was a nightmare, with very close to 50% win ratio and terrible bad streaks (10 games was the worse). I knew that, to get to diamond, i had to play x number of matches because, no matter what, the game would try to make me lose eventually. I did the math and decided i couldn’t play so many matches in the time i had, so i quit.

season 2 has been much better: i got a bad streak at the start, so no easy ride to legendary for me. I ended up with the worse teammates i ever had and even made a post about it, but i cured it by teaming up with the only 2 randoms that used the search tool. From that moment and on, i left amber pretty quick, i struggled a bit through emerald, and still made it, and by sapphire my mmr was high enough to get me decent players that made the ride a lot easier, but still had 3 losses here and there (followed a lot of times by 3 wins). I also realised (too late, sadly, when i was at sapphire t5) that before 1am a lot of really bad players are around, and matches get exponentially easier if your mmr doesn’t suck.

My best winning streak is 7. My worst losing streak is 5. I never played more than 4 losing games without resorting to grouping afterwards, because I read about people with 30 losing streak and I am definitely NOT going to be that guy.

Rubi started bad: 4 straight loses. But i have discovered a way to boost my MMR that’s working miracles. I am also playing more professions, in order to try to always get a balanced team.

One more thing: i am anything but a great player. I sometimes spam skills that would be better saved, i sometimes take my chances going to some point and I get wrecked, i may have gone wonkers on a revenant while he was using infuse light more often than reasonable, and i notice i destroy the average player i find, meaning, yes, that the average player is really BAD, so no wonder so many people are complaining, uh?

Buffalo Bruiser.3567:

It’s matchmaking period. Teams with higher individual MMR players are matched against teams with lower individual MMR ratings.

THAT’S MATCHMAKING.

Now if you want to type out your monologue about why players earn lower MMR, be my guest.

This is actually a better description:

Teams with any mmr are matched against teams with any mmr. The best team wins.

Say whatever you want. Before the match, you don’t know if the enemy is better or worse, you don’t know if they will play as a team or as @ssholes. You don’t know nothing, but the things you know about yourself. What the op is giving you, is tools to improve yourself, and improve your team also. The enemy team can have any given mmr, you have to beat them nontheless, or you won’t get your next pip.

Agemnon.4608:

You’ll be scaled up to the highest rated player’s MMR and get way tougher matchups so you’ll likely be the reason why they’ll lose (no offense).

What you want to do is get on Teamspeak with MMR equals.

what? matchups don’t take mmr into account. MMR is only used to find your team members. Matchups are random within a range of you tier in your division.

But, of course, if you team up with a legendary player, you will play against legendary players… that’s bad if you want to progress…

I actually didnt get to try blade and soul pvp. I leveled a bit and realised that the game is decades behind gw2. And i have been a disser of gw2 for years, but them i went to standard mmo maps and, god, how could i play wow for so many years? (Well, the answer is easy, raids kept me off the maps)

JTGuevara.9018:

it’s DONE. The matchmaking is absolutely atrocious, along with game balance and a flawed league/pip system.

People are quitting in droves. One of the only reasons you even see people playing is to grind out the season for the backpack or grind rewards. If those two things did not exist, pvp is DEAD. These leagues are a JOKE.

- pvp didn’t exist before the leagues system.

- Most of people reached dragon by farming fake matches.

- Most of people also got their dailies by joining fake matches.

Amineo.8951:

Speaking of Ruby and pips, with 50% winrate, it’s obviously a dice roll until I get win streaks to get out thanks to MMR of course, which promotes tryharding at it’s best.

Why don’t you try to understand how the system works before complaining? There’s no 50% win rate anymore. You get pitched against other people within a certain range of the tier in the division you are in, regardless of their mmr, so you only have a 50% chance to win in the long run, if you are an average player for that tier.

drgast.1469:

I’ve seen lots of complaining on here and just about every match is people voicing their displeasure. Lobby is full of unhappy people. Just want to know if anybody is actually happy with the way things are? Matchmaking, meta, all of it.

meta is.. weird, but a lot less awful than season 1.

The matchmaking and progression are much better than in season 1. It took me a lot less effort to reach ruby, and i didn’t get a single one of those lucky endless win streaks.

Now, i have to decide whether to try to reach diamond or just quit, because i don’t play nearly enough to reach diamond before the season ends (unless i get 75% win rate which, playing late at night, is almost impossible)

Buffalo Bruiser.3567:

i dont expect a good player to carry me. but people say good players should be able to do so. just never happens for me

because, if you blow out every game every night, you are not getting grouped with good players, so no one is going to carry you anywhere.

I don’t know if you are so bad or you just landed in a mmr hell. Have you tried teaming up with other players? also, i discovered a couple of days ago (better late than never) that matches are indeed a lot easier before 00:30. I always play around 1am or later, and i never suspected the difference would be so noticeable.

Fivedawgs.4267:

The OP argument is valid, it useless to blame him for his shortfalls when the MMR algorithm says:

We will match you with folks around your MMR but won’t consider your team MMR to find you opponents.

I belive what the OP want is a system where each team has a 50/50 chance at winning not a jumbo slot.

well, if that’s the OP’s view, he is just plain wrong.

I mean, he is right if he wants even matches, but why should the matches be even in a league?

let’s put all footbal teams in the same division. Let’s call it amber division. During the season, all the teams have the chance to reach legendary division, but, here’s the catch, Barcelona only gets to play against Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and PSG. Meanwhile, Swansea gets to play against third division teams…. from Central Asia.

At the end of the season, Swansea is up there with Barcelona, while Real Madrid is still in amber trying to beat Chelsea…. Fair, right?

celldwell.5029:

ranked is unplayable at legend+

woah, you win ratio….

is that solo?

Rolisteel.1375:

Then win with your 3 thieves vs necro, rev, ele

see what i did there

i have lost to 3 thieves, with a well balanced team. We had the correct classes, but my team exploded against the thieves. Me included. Actually, two of the 3 thieves defeated me easily a few times 1on1 in that match.

Riku.1093:

Amineo.8951:

Riku.1093:

Extreme.8350:

Stop playing theif problem solved

Okay, then explain this. Rumor has it, necro is one of the strongest classes in the game for pvp.

Doesn’t matter with the class people are playing, it’s basically RNG when you reach Ruby in SoloQ this season…

Im in emerald.

my god, with such a losing streak, on emerald, at this time, what do you expect? you will get bots and worse on your team. Just find at least one decent player and teamup with him. You will start winning games and your mmr will eventually recover but, after losing so much, it will take time.