Guild Wars 2

With the changes to venom share now being baseline, is there now a viable Condi build for PvE?

mazut.4296:

After chill nerf I only use it if I need the CC and also for movement, Death’s charge is useful at VG green circles and for Matthias, when you place corruptions and poison, but its far from mandatory.

It wasn’t a nerf for condi builds. It was a huge buff.

I really, really do not want to be mean here, but it’s just a simple matter of fact that you’re a bad player if you think this trait is bad.

It’s arguably one of the strongest traits in the necromancers kitten nal.

It’s a MUST in the condition based builds. You know necromancers can dump the conditions they’re currently suffering from, onto the enemy right? This makes corruptions even stronger than just having a flat 33% cd reduction.

I wouldn’t even say it’s “high risk high reward” gameplay..
Just don’t use a corruption unless you have a condi transfer up.

I actually complain to the druids in my group when they’re spamming cleanses because it hinders my DPS.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

You can “consume all” on them. Save them up and use up a stack with each click.

Thank god for that, still a shame the drinks are expensive.

Required to consume 10,000 drinks for this achievement that’s a requisite for the new Shoulder piece.

Are you mad?

Here’s my warrior.

Currently it’s worth 20s, that’s quite poor considering it requires 14 days worth of fractal dailies to acquire.

Once done with crafting unbound, the pages are effectivelly only worth selling, however you can only sell the book, which requires 28 pages, at 2 a day, and once sold you get a measly 20 silver.

That’s 14 days for 20 silver.

That’s pretty poor.

My suggestion is to increase the selling cost of the book to 5g, that accounts to roughly 17s per page, so an additional 34s per day from doing the fractal dailies, still not much in the grand scheme of things, but I think it’s fair, no?

I think it’s safe to say that we were ALL expecting new fractals and new instabilities but were sorely let down by Anet.

To answer the Op’s question properly and as best i can.

It really depends on the fight.

I’d argue that the f1 spamming longbow condi war is the best DPS on gorseval for example due to his large hitbox.
Where as with Vale guardian, i’d say possibly revenant, as that’s the only class i can think of that’s really wanted for raids and whose damage isn’t completely destroyed by movement.

Now in a perfect scenario, if the boss had a large hit box and was stationary 100% of the time, it’d probably be a toss up between Condi Warrior, Condi Engineer & Zerker Ele.

Chris.6089:

Two weeks into this mess, there is no post cursing the Anet yet

I’ve seen quite a few of those.

But yes, the community is indeed very mature, we’re just all starting to lose our patience with the direction this game is going.

ALL Abilities simply need a different coefficient depending on whether they are hitting an NPC or a player.

Fixed.

Ability 1 hits a mob for 2k.
Ability 1 hits a player for 1k.

Ability 2 stuns a mob for 3 seconds.
Ability 2 stuns a player for 1.5 seconds.

Done.

If anet really want to push Guild wars 2 as an e-sport, this is the way to do it without royally kittening over the PVE side of things.

Acratin.3910:

I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. Though I do use sword a lot, skill 3 is well worth using and increases might drastically. Using the facets properly lets you use those attacks from them while still holding the buffs during that time. Axe can add torment and chill. Mace torments, poisons, burns, and adds might. Sword vulnerability is nice, but you get a short lived 20 stacks from using the might facet.

There is a rotation, definitely.

In PvE the rotation is pretty much just Auto attack on sword and hop between Shiro for the Quickness and Malyx for the elite, anything else is a DPS loss lmao.

They don’t care about the games balance, they care about how much they can abuse unintended mechanics to leech the best rewards before it’s changed.

Real pvpers play a class regardless of how well it’s performing, these ESL kittennuts flock back and forth to broken and braindead builds & classes if it’s over-performing in the current meta.

I honestly think the ability should just be reworked..

It’s stupid, needs to pulse aegis instead of blur/dodge.

The games just bad. Period.

The meta has never been so unstable, there are so many cancerous bunker mesmers & condi revs running around who actually think they’re a good player.

The developers in charge of balance need to be fired, seriously, it’s never been this bad before, and they’re not even going to attempt to fix it until kittening february? and you want this kitten to be e-sports?! Are you kittening out of your mind!?

Did the run with the brazier (as indicated by the screenshot) yet i was unable to interact with the brazier using the torch.

Not sure what went wrong here as everything we did to get the 3rd chest was what we did last week.

I thought that way too, then i realised that more than half the people I’m seeing in “ranked” are the people who “don’t care cos i’m playing for fun.”

These people belong in Unranked, yet they repeatedly queue for ranked because “omg legendary backpack!”

Sorry, but bristleback still needs a nerf lmao, it’s doing a stupid amount of damage when paired up with cele druids.

Give it back it’s health if you’re that upset about it and tone down the damage instead.

ZeftheWicked.3076:

Let’s not start discussions about disgusting, unless you want me to start going on about how pro chornomancers are with their gravity well + avoid well rinse and repeat “skill”. Or thieves and their eternal shadowstepping in with basilisk venom etc.

Point is if such playstyle exists it should not be barred cause it’s bad. If it’s bad then there’a a major issue with balance that should be fixed at it’s core and not given “indefinite quarantene”.

Are you really using thief as an example of something that’s “Disgusting”? :l

Iris Ng.9845:

About 30-50 g for VG depending on how fast and how many slots you can spare.

Per person maybe, can’t see anyone selling a raid spot for 30-50g.. That would mean everybody gets 3-5g each.

I really don’t want to sound like one of those “Toxic elitists” but if you have no intention of building your character optimally for raids, then you have no place in raids. Simple as that.

Simple as that.

a 3 month period between each “major balance patch” is not healthy for the game at all, especially if you want gw2 to kick off as “e-sports” material.

Balance needs to be done constantly, you can’t just go “right, that’s that done for now, see you in 3 months, we’ll just hot fix stuff from now on for the next 3 months.”

Yes, you just need to make sure you have more toughness than your healer (if he has any), no-body else in the raid should have any toughness gear at all.

In that case then, a tool needs to be implemented to monitor your raid members activities so you can see who’s under-performing and help them improve, because as it is right now, it’s a crapshoot, you can’t clearly identify who’s not performing their best, and it’s needed for content like raids.

We’re not all DnT

Just to get an idea on where the community stands for the raid timers.

I personally like the idea of raid timers and do not want to see them gone, otherwise the difficulty of raids will be drastically reduced, however i do feel some tuning is needed.

The timer on Vale guardian feels just right, however for Gorseval it feels incredibly too tight and an increase on the timer would be nice.

Here’s the poll for anyone interested:
http://strawpoll.me/6195694

Condi reaper is actually a lot weaker than Warrior and Engineer, it’s suprising how much of a gap there actually is.

Just use the second best food.

It’s barely a DPS loss and it’s substantially cheaper.

It’s why a lot of flak is being given for it, both systems counter each other. It’s a stupid design and needs looking into/changing.

It’s a tricky situation though, because outside of the traps, DH’s are literal trash, they’re garbage, insanely easy to kill.

They’re DPS monsters but once they’ve exhausted their traps, they’re useless, so if traps get nerfed (Which they should) changes need to be made elsewhere, true shot needs it base damage reduced too, hits way too hard.

Lopez.7369:

Condition reaper isn’t even the meta reaper build. Celestial is.

Pretty sure the Carrion Frostfire build is what most people are running.

Phineas Poe.3018:

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

Phineas Poe.3018:

Scrapper? Tempest?

Scrapper and Tempest are strong, but they don’t kitten out skill for minimal effort, you need to have some form of intelligence to actually play well with one.

I play scrapper myself, and a bad one is easily identifable because they just melt, same with tempests, good ones are scary, bad ones, just melt.

If scrapper and tempest are, as you say, “strong” when well played, then that makes seven out of nine professions viable in top-end PvP.

So what’s the issue?

I think you’ve missed the entire point of this thread.

The problem with DH isn’t the damage, it’s the daze on traps trait combined with the elite trap pretty much holding you in place for 5 seconds, knocking you down constantly if you even try to move an inch.

CC in this game needs toning down, a LOT.

As someone else has mentioned, a Chrono + DH can pretty much keep you stunlocked indefinitely, and it’s kittening stupid.

So, can we expect teams like car crashed then that abused this system to also face justice, or because they bring viewers to twitch, they’re exempt from this? because i really hope the “big name teams” get punished too, because they’ve been doing it as well.

The community has changed because Anet has split it apart with HoT.

The 4 Maps shipped with HoT are just a constant grind. “want this? Grind that.” “oh you want this? Grind that!” once you’ve done the story, it literally boils down to grinding the same events over and over again in the same 4 maps in the same way because they’re linked in such a way that an idiot can’t get lost.
Combine it with arguably the most poorly designed WvW map, on top of the most broken meta the games ever had in GW2 since launch in PvP, and it’s no wonder people are getting frustrated and taking out their anger on their fellow players.

Anet’s entire mindset with the game has changed since launch, and not for the better, you can look at every decision they’ve made so far and you can literally go “Yeah that was done to boost gem sales.”

Previously it seemed like they actually cared about the game and it’s community and promoted healthy play, but now, they just keep pushing kitten into the gem store, give us stupid “roadmaps for the years ahead” (4 major balance patches a YEAR when they want this game to be esports as an example) they want to gravitate away from the “zerk meta” yet they wholy promote it in raids with the incredibly strict enrage timers.

And in response to the “ascended was promised as the final tier” it is.
Legendary armor isn’t going to have more stats over Ascended. Ascended is still the final tier as far as stats are concerned.

When you compare other games expansions to what was contained in the base game, you have to look at HoT and assume that you’ve payed what you would for an expansion, for something that’s on DLC levels.

Seriously, compare the amount of content in HoT to any other MMO’s expansion pack, it’s drastically less content.

Hell, look at EQ2, that games mostly dead yet it still manages to churn out more content in it’s expansion packs than HoT did.

Phineas Poe.3018:

Scrapper? Tempest?

Scrapper and Tempest are strong, but they don’t kitten out skill for minimal effort, you need to have some form of intelligence to actually play well with one.

I play scrapper myself, and a bad one is easily identifable because they just melt, same with tempests, good ones are scary, bad ones, just melt.

Bunker Alacrity Mesmers.
Bunker Healing Druids.
Trap Spamming DH tards.
Condi Revenants.
Condi Reapers.

Literally the only classes being played right now.

All running the same build that they’ve found on metabattle.

Everyone complaining.. It’s not being nerfed, it’s being fixed, they were being stealthed and the stealth was NOT breaking on them at all, even after wearing off, they would remain invisible..

What about the insanely bad balance, when’s that going to be looked at?

Is this for PvE or PvP? Because Condi Zerker is pretty insane in PvE

Let’s also not forget that they stated there would be balance patches before each league, and this “leagues” balance patch was apparently on june 23rd when HoT launched.

That wasn’t a balance patch Anet. That was something that kittened with the balance.

Is it the boon duration?

Yup, Condi revenants currently have TOO much, they need some things taken away or the damage gutted.

Have to agree, the “woo. Whirl finishers.” part of it is just underwhelming and doesn’t make up for the dogkitten damage the thing does.

If it did damage akin to Guardian traps, then I’d appreciate it.

Marauder Scrapper > Reaper

Raids are most definitely not “on farm” by most people lmao, what are you smoking?

Just curious, finished the collection today and the NPC within the fractals tells me to “come back at a later time.”

I don’t really think leagues were designed with solo players in mind.

Armor isn’t much, but yeah, true shot is a bit out of order.

kittening morons posting i swear, I’m complaining about the reduction of visual clutter affecting DH traps in a tremendously stupid way, not DH being strong.

Timston.1976:

Oh shut up already and complain on of the other thousand posts about traps

Actually read my post instead of just going by the title maybe?