Guild Wars 2

Mystogan.9783:

joshc.3129:

Mystogan.9783:

joshc.3129:

I personally think the real reason why Anet has said MANY times that GW2 will never come to consoles is because they want to maintain 100% control over the game.

If they release GW2 on the PS4 and Xbox One, they would first have to get Sony’s and Microsoft’s approval before they can do anything to the game. Which means if they want to release a bug fix patch or release a new LW episode they would have to first submit it to Sony and Microsoft and wait for them to approve it. This could mean console players could be 1, 2 or 3 LW episodes behind PC players.

I don’t think Microsoft would try to control it at all. They really only get power hungry with games they are developing/publishing. The only thing they would want probably would be a cut of the money coming in from the Xbox side of things. And Microsoft is a lot easier on the rules for updating now a days (At least I think). My friend had a little Indy game that Microsoft had nothing to do with, other than it being sold on the Xbox. It updated like every day for a week or two straight. So I’m pretty sure they are more laid back with things like that now. That being said, I don’t know how Sony is with stuff like that. Like I said, they seem a lot more strict now.

Thus if Anet has 100% control over GW2 they won’t have to give anyone a cut of the profit. Nor will they have to go through a middle man like Microsoft or Sony in order to do anything with their game.

I think it has nothing to do with which console has the least amount of restrictions or how much work it would take to port GW2 to consoles. It all comes down to having full ownership over the profit, full ownership over creative control and full control over the game where they can do what they like. Such as releasing a patch or new content when they want to and not having to wait for someone to approve it first.

I’m pretty sure they would always have full control of their game. Microsoft would never touch their profit, they would probably just want a little of the top from the initial sell of something on Xbox. If you are making $10 selling something. Then someone offers to sell it for you in a different town, they won’t change the product at all but they want $5 from the sell. You are getting $15 now and they are getting $5. Why wouldn’t you do it?

You seem to have strong opinions for someone who knows nothing.

Sony is less strict than Microsoft except for Xbox to PS4 crossplay only because it benefits Microsoft significantly more than sony.

The real less dumb reason is the cost. Let me break it down.

Cost of porting the game to either one of the platforms is expensive.

The cost of releasing patches is about 20k per patch and requires a lot of testing by platform holder. Look at how many patches arena net releases? Arena net could change their process to avoid releasing too many patches but at this stage of the game’s life, why would they?

Platform holder takes 30% of box price per game sold. I think gem store also.

Other MMO franchisee can do that because it was planned during the design process. Gw2 was not planned to have a console release.

The whole premise of this topic is based on the assumption that companies hate easy money. Anet probably doesn’t do it because they think it is not a cost effective use of their time. And it doesn’t even guarantee that there is a large Xbox audience waiting for gw2.

Where they banned or permanently dishonoured? Those are not the same thing.

OP the truth is that the forums were created mainly as a means to contained all the negativity. Or at least that was the reason the former community manager gave us back on my guru days. Before all the anger was spread among multiple sites, while now it is mainly contained here.

The point being that the negativity is perfectly normal for an MMORPG.

TheArtOfMouts.7468:

I’m not sure I have incentive to play the next season ..

A PvPer just gain his wings. Anyways, you don’t have to do anything you dont want to.

OriOri.8724:

Evan Lesh.3295:

We also think automated tournaments would be neat. For viewership, we would have to re-implement the authorized shoutcaster program to allow certain people to stream the tournaments.

It appears that both the players and the devs liked automated tournaments. So what exactly is stopping them from coming back? Don’t have the time to implement it? Don’t have permission to do so?

Resources is probably the issue, since most of dev resources are probably tied to the expansion.

Astralporing.1957:

Tsakhi.8124:

Astralporing.1957:

Sometimes i wonder, what the player reactions would be if the roles were reversed – if Caudecus was the king and Jennah the rebel.

That’s a pretty interesting question, namely because Caudecus feels as though he’s justified for what he does.

That’s not what i had in mind, in truth.

Yeah, Caudecus has a ton of highly questionable motives, and seem to be working mostly for himself. The problem is, if you look closer, Jennah is not so clean either.

It’s just that he’s a creepy older man with a suspicious look and voice, while Jennah is… not. If the image was reversed, i’m sure lot of people would have found reasons to still side with her (in her role as a minister that opposes the king), even if the behaviour and visible motivations of both their roles were to remain completely unchanged beyond the switch of visuals.

When you have to go into meaningless hypothetical, it is probably a good indication that your argument isn’t strong.

We the human players do not trust Caudecus because the evidence presented in the story gave us no reason to trust him. It wasn’t because of his looks nor voice. It was because he was highly suspicious. Then if you are a member of the Whispers it becomes even more apparent why trusting Caudecus is not a smart bet, again that had nothing to do with his appearance or voice.

Jenna might have her own issue but the story hasn’t indicated that she is bad or even close to the level of villainy as Caudecus. Personally, my issues are with her friend the leader of the shining blades. I also have a soft spot for Logan and how things played out wasn’t right. You would think she would have done something, sooner but nope.

phokus.8934:

PvP balance is completely out of whack. But this is what we have to play with today and will just have to wait until the next expansion to see what broken elite specs are released.

No. PvP balance is not completely out of whack or even out of whack. It is kinda balance when you compared to other seasons and years.

Recency bias, it is a thing.

jessiestiles.9437:

Agreed. Not taking 3 months of this. Maybe devs will develop a clue by then.

They were probably working on new specializations.

@Jourdelune.7456:

Exedore.6320:

Jourdelune.7456:

@Kreweless

Thank you to put other word in a better syntax/grammar than mine.

No problem Dal — I’m sure your English is far better than my French xD

NotASmurf.1725:

There’s literally only Sindrenerr right now and even he doesn’t stream daily. There are no PvP streamers left in this game.

Well it’s in between seasons, so there’s not much PvP to stream. And besides that, this game is tough to watch even when you know a lot about it.

Exedore.6320:

In a MOBA, you have characters with fix abilities and roles. It’s very clear what each does or is supposed to do.

What would you guys think about a 1v1 or 2v2 arena fighting game with GuildWars2’s engine, but with fixed characters/builds? This is all fantasy, but wouldn’t that solve the balance issue, the watchability (streamability) issue, and still leave players with the core of what we love about PvP.

The really tragic thing about potentially losing PvP in this game is that, at its heart, the combat is really fun.

Considering the game isn’t balance for 1v1 officially supporting 2v2 will lead to problems that Arena Net isn’t capable for solving.

In any case, guild wars 2 is 4 years old the ship “to make PvP great again” has long sailed. Ask yourself this question. Why should someone leave their current PvP focused game to come to a PvE focused game with some PvP? The answer is probably they wouldn’t or wont. The best thing Arena Net can do is simply appeal to players who currently do not PvP but need an incentive to. Yes, so called PvPers might not like it, but that is the reality. Guild wars 2 PvP isn’t ever going to amount to much, but it can survive with new blood.

Unfortunately, they have made a critical mistake recently. Instead of making ascended gear cost 200g, what they could have done was make getting it a little harder by backloading most of the ascended shards to Byzantium chest.

yes

Aitadis.8269:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Solstace.2514:

KrHome.1920:

Acrisor.8097:

The more PvP you do, the more PvE you need. Awesome game.

For sPvP you don’t need any ascended gear.

It should not be possible at all to get it in that game mode.

Ascended gear should only be accessible in PvE and WvW.

Most people dont just play one game mode.

Fine but why should papers get a free ascended set while pvers have to invest hundreds of gold?

That’s a complete load of garbage, I ran fractals for a short while, and in that time I received enough ascended armor crates for 2 full sets of ascended armor and quite a few weapon crates as well. PvE has it so much easier in gold acquisition and ascended drops compared to both SPvP and WvW combined. WvW where ascended stats matter more than in any other game mode including pve raids, have to be acquired through a random miniscule droprate, they don’t drop every other day from our daily chests like in fractals.

I totally agree with WvW but PvPer don’t need Ascended gear so your argument with respect to that is not good.

Also if getting Ascended gear from fractals was as easy as you claim most people who would have it.

Apolo.5942:

Fluffball.8307:

I play PvP because I think it’s neat. I couldn’t even tell you what the rewards were for last season except that I got a set of armor out of it for a character I don’t play.

You dont matter, the player count spike does.

Apparently, Arena Net thinks the player count spike doesn’t matter.

FrostDraco.8306:

Cynz.9437:

OP, there is thread about it in general discussion. I am certainly not seeing myself buying any ascended gear with pvp/fractals tokens any time soon. It is simply not worth it if you calculate costs of mats + time spent to get those tokens, especially when ascended boxes drop from raids/fractals and you can buy gear for magnetite shards which are not time gated to a season and don’t require crafting stuff.

Saying that as pvp’er you don’t need gear is stupid, a lot of players don’t just sit in pvp 24/7 but also participate in other aspects of the game. At least in fractals ascended gear is a must, simply due to infusions. You are not going to get into many raiding groups as well nowadays unless you have proper ascended gear.

I personally have been participating in every game mode (although i quit wvw ages ago, too boring): i raid every week, i do fractals every day and pvp obviously. From my experience gold and mats gains from pvp are absolute joke outside of recent ranked rewards during the season, but it is time gated and not always available unlike fractals or raids. The chances to get ascended from pvp are also absolute joke. I have had more drops from killing 9 bosses in 1 week and some fractal runs than in months of pvp.

You just invalidated your own point. If you are playing other game modes, then you are earning gold from said game modes, which means you can pay for it like everyone else.

Also the statement about raids is an outright lie. At most groups require asc trinkets and weapons, not ascended armor. And even then most groups only require exotic. And with the new patch giving you easy access to an ascended weapon, and berry farming literally giving you trinkets up the kitten , no one should be complaining about this AT ALL.

This wouldn’t be a guild wars 2 forum without someone crying about something and intentionally ignoring facts.

Like you said, PvPers exclusive players do not need ascended gear for anything. If you are not a PvP exclusive player then you can make money from the other modes of play.

Why should crafters be punish for crafting when you can just lose your way into a full set of ascended gear?

Buran.3796:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Making ascended gear a joke is bad in the long run for a genre that needs some grind.

Making ascended gear a new tier of gear instead of just a cosmetic skin was a mistake in a game which promised to not increase the tiers vertically and to rely in cosmentics and horizontal progression.

Making a secod generation of ascended gear with 4 stats x piece and enhanced stats was even worse, only partially adressed due they at least provided an affordable way to reset the stats.

The grind for gear in MMOs has sense as a carrot when provides constant progression and advantages or is requiered to achieve high end content. But in GW2 you don’t need ascended items to do PvE raids.

I totally agree that making ascended gear was a mistake but that isn’t the issue here. The issue was that the old system defeated the purpose of introducing ascended gear in the first place. Also the people who are whining about ascended gear are the types who enjoy chasing carrots on the stick even if it isn’t needed (ie REQUIRED) in any Guild wars 2 content INCLUDING raids.

Acrisor.8097:

ArenaNet did warn us, only not about this change, or other changes. They requested in a poll if we would accept profession locking from queue (see: https://feedback.guildwars2.com/en)

I am curious, what would be the results if they had this statement for a poll:

The Guild Wars 2 PvP team is exploring an awesome idea of changing the way Ascended PvP gear is obtained. We wish for Ascended items in PvP to not only require Ascended Shard of Glory, but to also require PvE materials obtained from crafting at level 500 (ascended) with their respective professions. We believe this will improve those rewards, by getting them in line with other ascended gear.
Would you like Ascended PvP items to be:
A} obtained straight from vendor with only Ascended Shard of Glory;
B} obtained from vendor with Ascended Shard of Glory plus other ascended crafting materials.

Leaving ascended gear in the old system defeated the purpose of introducing ascended gear in the first place. Ascended gear was introduced because getting exotics was a joke. Making ascended gear a joke is bad in the long run for a genre that needs some grind.

Ruthenium Panther.8679:

Tongku.5326:

but it should have never been so disproportionally cheap and easy to get in the 1st place.

Sure. But the problem is that they should give everybody spend their asc shards before introducing new system.

They gave you five days to spend it. At this stage it is nearly all your fault.

Pyriall.1683:

Ithilwen.1529:

Pyriall.1683:

@Ithilwen.1529-Why would you assume sarcasm? Is it because the build, when played correctly, contradicts your narrative? Mantra Mesmer does a ridiculous amount of burst with a very short cool down between burst cycles. AND can be done from stealth. It will global most builds that do not have an immunity and more often ones that do not proc an auto immunity like Defy Pain and Self-Regulating Defenses.

Please do post that build. I don’t think it exists.. but I’d be happy to test the idea. I thought you were sarcastic because your claim sounded, well, chimerical.

Again, please post that build, I’d love to try it.

It’s the standard power mantra build- http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAsfRl0nhy0YJawGNwtGLnGUZGaeCIDwCW+5Tiy1B-TpRBABAcIAM+IA8wJAgsyAR8AAua/BA

Though I have seen you play and you aren’t going to be able to pull off the combo with any consistency, but that’s not the fault of the build.

That’s cold.

Solstace.2514:

KrHome.1920:

Acrisor.8097:

The more PvP you do, the more PvE you need. Awesome game.

For sPvP you don’t need any ascended gear.

It should not be possible at all to get it in that game mode.

Ascended gear should only be accessible in PvE and WvW.

Most people dont just play one game mode.

Fine but why should papers get a free ascended set while pvers have to invest hundreds of gold?

It will never happen. Except for the fact that Arena net do not have the resources to handle 4 versions of the game. Combined with the fact that each patch cost a lot of money about 50k. Then the fact that the market for a four year old game isn’t huge, you can see why you should give up on that dream.

Btw keeping all options is simply marketing speak for it could happen, just like it could happen that I get a billion dollars from Bill Gates.

Assuming what you said is true, way to go Arena net. Your implementation blows. I wanted it to be more fair but this is not that fair and it defeats the purpose of implementing ascended gear in PvP.

Maybe it is a bug, how about you make a bug compliant instead of trying to be an kitten about it.

When S6 gets announce we will all know at the exact same time.

BlackBeard.2873:

Anet doesn’t design for roles and holes…they just give everyone everything, with each class getting a little bit more of certain things to “specialize.”

The necromancer still exist, so that isn’t entirely true. Quickness should come with a cost and the fact that it doesn’t is extremely idiotic.

^ dat

felincyriac.5981:

Ider.1276:

felincyriac.5981:

(I’ve yet to even get a full set of exotics btw, so can’t really do anything too hardcore)

Don’t waste hardened leather for exotic craft. Better farm some gold and buy exotics (for zerk stats Zhed’s/Nika’s/Devona’s depending on armor type) from trading post. You can buy a full set for like 15-20 gold. Alternatively you can grind Verdant Brink a bit and buy an exotic set for airship parts (must have Itzel mastery to access the vendor).
Exotic craft is dead, save that hardened leather for insignias to craft ascended armor.

welp I needed a viper’s exotic set, but those are account bound >.< , ty for the info tho

Never ever craft exotic viper. It isn’t worth the cost.

Necromancer removed from game due to complexity of balancing.

Terrorsquad.2349:

Results of a small poll I did concerning Season 6 Ranked matches showed that only 29% of the players want SoloQ only for Season 6.

Whereas 67% of the people want SoloQ AND TeamQ in Season 6.

Eventhough the poll has only 300 votes, with this big of a % difference, I think it’s quite clear what the majority of the community wants..-

Results: http://www.strawpoll.me/12343163/r

That’s not how statistics work. You cannot say it is clear what the majority of the community wants."

It isn’t clear. That isn’t statistics work. Yes, you can get an accurate reflection of a large population using a small sample size, but that sample size must be truly random. This isn’t. All you manager to achieve was get a few forum visitors and probably some redditors. Those two site do not reflect the general population.

Although, I do agree with the spirit of your comment that both solo and teamQ should coexist.

The reason why build templates don’t exist has less to do with PvP which is barebones and all to do with its implementation in PvE and WvW. They could do it now but they will kitten off PvE which is significantly more important than PvP.

Stand The Wall.6987:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Stand The Wall.6987:

hypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehype

Why?

It is just a balance patch, it ain’t that big of a deal. Or to be more precise it is better to be cautiously optimistic than overly hype.

bet youre the life of the party

Actually I am usually the life of the party but nice try though.

In any case, the smart money is to always be cautiously optimistic especially with Arena Net. Take this from someone who has seen their work since 2006.

But hey it’s your choice to do whatever you want. I just hate for you to have one more thing to complain about.

Dawdler.8521:

So the big question:

Will balance between the classes in WvW both zerg/roaming be considered even once or is this a pure PvE/sPvP rebalance as usual?

Why would zerg balance matter? The whole point of a zerg is to be unbalance at least more so than PvP and PvE. Also roaming isn’t going to be balance because the game is based around teams of 5 not 1v1.

gebrechen.5643:

So, if Ascended Gear in pvp will be more expensive, I really hope it finally has the same status normal Ascended Gear has and the stats can be changed with the mystic forge.

This is seems to be more of an oversight. It usually ahppens with new ascended pieces.

Stand The Wall.6987:

hypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehypehype

Why?

It is just a balance patch, it ain’t that big of a deal. Or to be more precise it is better to be cautiously optimistic than overly hype.

It isn’t fun for people like me who spent a lot of money leveling crafting only for some guy to lose their way into a 5/6 ascended pieces.

In any case, the current system was too generous. I think the new system is too extreme. The new crafting material or mastery whatever should be sellable on TP by players with level 500 crafting, however to prevent it from being devalued Arena net should set a high minimum sell price.

The game could be dying, but who are you trying to convince? Other players or Arena net. If you are trying to convince other players, so far you are doing a kittenty job at it. Clickbaits will only get you so far.

If you are trying to convince Arena Net, remember they can actually see the numbers.;

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Naked Faren yet again. This is what…the 4th time?

• Beach speedo
• Scarlet trying to cook him
• Jungle escapades
• And now this?

Did I miss any?

cringe

Nothing more disturbing than a person using “cringe.” There are other words in the dictionary.

Arena Net should add Team Q only and Solo Only. So when TeamQ inevitably fails, people will not have to keep wondering why.

Here is a much better and less short sighted way to give everybody what they want. Give Pips for loses, but tie it to some invisible personal score (old personal score system). So something like top score but less strict. The only way to get the points for the win is by reaching a point tier.

You can only get that score by reaching that personal score tier and you don’t see your score until the end.

Reaper Alim.4176:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Supreme.3164:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Reaper Alim.4176:

snip.

Holy hyperbole. You are good.

Honestly with your attitude including past post, i am glad arena net decided to focus on making the game mode more attractive rather than cuddle your fragile ego.

At the very least they learned this basic mistake from Gw1. While having veterans is nice, it is always better to try and bring in more players. In gw1, vets made it impossible for new players to join by automatically rejecting any player with low R. Eventually, as veterans left no veterans replaced them and PvP died faster than it necessary.

But you will never be able to deny the fact that GW1 PvP was and will remain far superior in terms of quality..and numbers:

1) 30+ Top Teams = Check
2) Mouthwatering display of skill on screen= Check
3) Simple Team arena matches watched by hundreds of people = Check
4) Multiple game mode with hundreds of players each = Check
5) Huge build diversity at any level = Check
6) PvP scene lasting more than 5 years = Check

..Now pls try to replicate these numbers with GW2…pls just try it, especially point 6..I mean…GW2 PvP already on his deathbed after only 3 years….actually it has been a declining element since couple of year ago…you can’t even touch GW1.

You talk about GW1 elitism as a bad thing…it had its disadvantages but the main benefit was filtering of true pvpers from the rest.

Those seriously in love with the idea of pvp, were able to wait weeks begging in chat for a chance despite having Rank 0 ( I did that for 3 weeks before a guy gave me a chance..and I ended my pvp life in gw1 at r8)

Players in gw1 had dedication…here they will launch a tantrum if they don’t get their “toy” after few matches or so…or will cry if they wait for more than 5m on queue…………….-_-…………yeah I’d rather have that “elitism” back ty

Out of 30 pvers who come to pvp…28 are in for the shiny reward and will leave after, those 2 who remain will instead become the pvpers of tomorrow…those “elitist jerks” in GW1 would have simply pushed those 28 pvers out of pvp that much quicker than wait for them to simply leave

Let me start by saying you miss the whole point of my post.

Guild wars 1 PvP was better. It had more builds in theory, more game modes and less competition in terms of PvP. None of these saved it from dying faster than guild wars 2. Guild wars 1 did such a great job at filtering Noobs from the true PvPers (special snowflake syndrome) that it killed itself. Even with Arena net constantly messing up PvP, Guild wars 2 is more alive after 4 years than guild wars 2 was alive after 2.5 years and gw2 has to contend with all those other PvP games.

Final, before complain about tantrums maybe look through your own post history. If you don’t want to, look at the front page, a lot of it is whining from true PvPer.

Snip

I am sorry for not being clearer, which invalidates whatever you were trying to say. I meant competing as in mind share. There are a lot PvP options today than when guild wars 1 was release. Even with how unperfect guild wars 2 is, it is still around after 4 years while guild wars 1 was dead in less than 2.5. Even with how Arena net is supposedly killing the game by being inclusive (hahaha).

The point being MMO need the casuals more than the special snowflakes like yourself and I am glad Arena net is being inclusive, if only to come to the forums and read professional QQers such as yourself QQ.

Xillllix.3485:

With ESO new xpac on the way and small scale pvp coming I think GW2 devs really need to step it up with their class balancing as well as lack of gamemodes and build variety.

Not really. Guild wars 2 PvP might have issues but Guild wars 2 arguably plays better than ESO. New game modes isn’t going to help ESO if the gameplay still blows.

Also when ESO coming out in June there literally no way for Arena net to respond, not that they need to anyways. Anyways, for the past 4 years every single mmo with PvP was suppose destroy guild wars 2 and so far none of them have been able to.

Supreme.3164:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Reaper Alim.4176:

snip.

Holy hyperbole. You are good.

Honestly with your attitude including past post, i am glad arena net decided to focus on making the game mode more attractive rather than cuddle your fragile ego.

At the very least they learned this basic mistake from Gw1. While having veterans is nice, it is always better to try and bring in more players. In gw1, vets made it impossible for new players to join by automatically rejecting any player with low R. Eventually, as veterans left no veterans replaced them and PvP died faster than it necessary.

But you will never be able to deny the fact that GW1 PvP was and will remain far superior in terms of quality..and numbers:

1) 30+ Top Teams = Check
2) Mouthwatering display of skill on screen= Check
3) Simple Team arena matches watched by hundreds of people = Check
4) Multiple game mode with hundreds of players each = Check
5) Huge build diversity at any level = Check
6) PvP scene lasting more than 5 years = Check

..Now pls try to replicate these numbers with GW2…pls just try it, especially point 6..I mean…GW2 PvP already on his deathbed after only 3 years….actually it has been a declining element since couple of year ago…you can’t even touch GW1.

You talk about GW1 elitism as a bad thing…it had its disadvantages but the main benefit was filtering of true pvpers from the rest.

Those seriously in love with the idea of pvp, were able to wait weeks begging in chat for a chance despite having Rank 0 ( I did that for 3 weeks before a guy gave me a chance..and I ended my pvp life in gw1 at r8)

Players in gw1 had dedication…here they will launch a tantrum if they don’t get their “toy” after few matches or so…or will cry if they wait for more than 5m on queue…………….-_-…………yeah I’d rather have that “elitism” back ty

Out of 30 pvers who come to pvp…28 are in for the shiny reward and will leave after, those 2 who remain will instead become the pvpers of tomorrow…those “elitist jerks” in GW1 would have simply pushed those 28 pvers out of pvp that much quicker than wait for them to simply leave

Let me start by saying you miss the whole point of my post.

Guild wars 1 PvP was better. It had more builds in theory, more game modes and less competition in terms of PvP. None of these saved it from dying faster than guild wars 2. Guild wars 1 did such a great job at filtering Noobs from the true PvPers (special snowflake syndrome) that it killed itself. Even with Arena net constantly messing up PvP, Guild wars 2 is more alive after 4 years than guild wars 2 was alive after 2.5 years and gw2 has to contend with all those other PvP games.

Final, before complain about tantrums maybe look through your own post history. If you don’t want to, look at the front page, a lot of it is whining from true PvPer.

Reaper Alim.4176:

From what I’ve personally noticed since ANet started to bribe PvEers to PvP in ranked in Season 1. GW2’s PvP match quality took a complete nose dive and has been getting worst and worst ever since. Now that is coming from a, ex dedicated GW2 PvP player who had 20 plus active PvP friends at one point. Who now sucks at this game from lack of practice, and playing.

Again since you’ve asked this question I can only talk from my personal view. The PvE rewards mixed with the lack of PvP support in GW2 has me with a friends list of a bunch of inactive friends. And now I struggle to play GW2 for longer then one hour at a time at best.

To me the huge PvE rewards helped big time, in completely destroying PvP in GW2 for me. To the point it forced me to look for PvP elsewhere. But meh what do ANet cares, I expect this to be infracted, by the admins, and then ban me from the forums for one month, just for the kittens and giggles.

TL;DL

Bringing huge PvE rewards into PvP. Has completely made the game mode for me and my old PvP friends who no longer PvPs in GW2, boring and close to unplayable. Because the match quality was decreased by many many folds.

Holy hyperbole. You are good.

Honestly with your attitude including past post, i am glad arena net decided to focus on making the game mode more attractive rather than cuddle your fragile ego.

At the very least they learned this basic mistake from Gw1. While having veterans is nice, it is always better to try and bring in more players. In gw1, vets made it impossible for new players to join by automatically rejecting any player with low R. Eventually, as veterans left no veterans replaced them and PvP died faster than it necessary.

But where is the fun in gaining internet sympathy from other irrational players?

Ninski.5680:

Exedore.6320:

Isn’t ability to carry part of skill?

Population isn’t big enough to support separate queues.

Merge NA and EU and it will be, there’s already players playing from both regions anyways, if that’s really what’s holding them back.

As soon as you invent light speed internet arena net would gladly merge both Na/EU.

kdaddy.5431:

i cant believe people actually want this.

Considering all OP has been doing in the past few weeks is kitten and moan about almost every single aspect of this game. Finding an effective way to give up really isn’t surprising.

He seems to be the type that blames his tools for his shabby workmanship.

Razor.9872:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Phineas Poe.3018:

steelheart.7386:

Phineas Poe.3018:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Phineas Poe.3018:

suffish.4150:

Spoichiche.1290:

“Tell me what’s the point of playing?

1. It clearly isn’t fun".

The post should just end here. There’s no point in playing if you don’t enjoy it.
I don’t believe anyone with half a brain would play a game that they don’t find fun, or enjoy in some way.

If you truly think this then you are not a competitive or really an ambitious player. I have played over 650 games this season already and, trying to be as accurate as possible, I would say 70% of those I really, REALLY did not want to play. I have spent over half this season absolutely hating pvp and feeling like quitting the game after many of my losses. But I don’t just stop playing because I don’t enjoy it. I don’t play this game for fun. If I did I would not even have half of the 5.2k hours I have invested in this game. No matter if it is pve or pvp, I play to achieve a target and I will not stop playing, however much I hate what I am doing, until I have done what I want to. To be honest, I WISH I could think in the way you do, it would make me a lot happier, but me and many other simply can’t.

And it is not just me who thinks like this, I know that many people would keep playing when they hate this game like I sometimes do just so they can achieve what they want. When you see a thread like this with someone saying how much they hate the game yet they continue to play, it means that they are a person who thinks like me and will keep going even if they don’t like what they are doing. Pvp, especially this season, does encourage people to think in this way more than ever.

That, or they have literally nothing else to do with their life. Or both.

This sounds like incredibly destructive behavior and was honestly very depressing to read.

Video games are a hobby. Unless you’re a YouTube content creator or a Twitch streamer, you’re probably not even making any money playing this game. It’s a good and healthy thing to always strive for improvement when it comes to your hobbies, whether that’s gaming or otherwise. My wife is a ferocious knitter and always challenges herself by taking on more ambitious projects; I too play video games with much the same energy, and am always striving to improve as a player.

But at the core of that ambition is the pursuit of play, not work.

I hope your life turns around at some point and you eventually see the error in this approach.

His view isn’t destructive in the slightest. You are just saying words with no understanding of what you are saying, talking by cliche.

His enjoyment (FUN) is to get better and achieve something in the game. So the end goal is the fun.

That is something a lot of people do, people who are DRIVEN to succeed in various aspects of life. It is not destructive at all, it is a personality trait he has and it is a desirable one in some ways.

Do you think climbing Mount Everest is “fun” whilst you are doing it? Or do people do it for the end goal, hoping in the end they will achieve something which gives them satisfaction.

It is similar in a ton of games and all areas of life. For some people the end goal is so desirable that they will go through an non-fun portion to get to it.

I am actually kind of like you in my outlook on life. But you have to realise that not everyone is the same.

Not sure what you’re rambling about. He literally said in his post “I don’t play this game to have fun.”

You are making a judgement call on someone motivations for playing based on your own and thats pretty presumptious of you. People play for different reasons whether you find them valid or not. Thats what he is saying I think.

Just because people play for different reasons that doesn’t mean they’re all defensible. Someone could boot up Guild Wars 2 simply to troll other players and make everyone else have a bad time around them.

Besides, I am not “presuming” anything. His actions and opinions are quite defined and obvious. He literally says he doesn’t play the game to have fun. I personally find that to be incredibly destructive behavior.

A judgment call is absolutely being made here, but the evaluation isn’t based on conjecture. I am stating an opinion and you are welcome to disagree with it.

This is a dumb conversation, so you’re welcome to continue it without me.

irrational stuff

Actually, Phineas Poe was the one being rational.

It doesn’t take a much effort to see just how irrational OP is. It is like each passing day, more of his sanity is slipping away, in a hilarious but mostly sad way.

Highlie.7641:

You have been doing this for 4 year’s now Op.

If that doesn’t fit the definition of insanity I don’t know what does.

It is usually difficult for an irrational person to realize they are irrational.

vorpal.1497:

It’s hard to get excited after begging for a feature for 3-4 years

They were not asking you to be excited.

Here is a suggestion.

Is arena net holding you hostage? If they are, give us a signal, else. Get a life.

This is a game. You play games to have fun, if you are not having fun, it is time to give up and go do something more productive of your time other than make threads whining about everything.

Ayrilana.1396:

PlatinumMember.5274:

Ayrilana.1396:

PlatinumMember.5274:

CMM.6712:

Adry.7512:

Seyiwaji.4082:

1) we have been posting those report for years now. In fact, as they doubled their income and such, they didn’t delete those post. why?
2)We don’t care about other games. so stop talking about it. don’t compare nut and apple.
3)They didn’t improve anything:
-less communication
-only improving pve and calling this game competitive game
-class balance in pvp is still kitten
-Good Dev seems to have left the company.
4) People already stated, they don’t want outfit they want armor.
What did the Boss said? armor take too long to be made.
So they don’t care really about the customers’ wishes

common sense tells me that if they create more armor skins for gem store, then we get less armor skins for in-game, simple. PVP has improved about 100x, balance is pretty kitten good. you still get wrecked? sorry to hear that. Good devs left the company???? and you got this info from where?

Colin, Chris to name a couple from recent memory.

Colin works for Amazon. Amazon tends to pay significant more than what the average game developer gets paid.

Now, Colin was a cool guy but as a game director I would disagree that he was good or that the game suffered because he left. I would actually argue that the game improved after he left. Like it or not, Colin was responsible for the mess that was HOT initially. It was after he left that most of the problems with HOT started getting fixed. The big patch in march 2016 was after he had left.

Most of the living story content, as well as the April HoT patch, were well in development by the time he left. Content and fixes don’t just magically happen so you can’t just use the date he left as a cut off and assume that everything that comes after it he had no control over prior to leaving.

His job was to prevent the mess that was HOt in the first place. If I kitten up and then fix my kitten up, I don’t get credit for it. It was his job to make a great game and HoT had a lot of issues.

You are right that the new content started development when he was around. the key being “started.” I doubt he had that much influence on any of the latter content like the newest maps.

Also the new content seems to have been designed to move away from the his mistakes.

ANYWAYS my point is, the game hasn’t suffered from his departure. THe newest map which arguably had the least amount of his influence is also one of the best maps we have had.

EDIT: I mean look at where all those previous Arena net developers ended. They are working on that kittenty Breakaway game.

That’s your opinion that HoT was a mess. Many others, including me, disagree with you.

He very likely had input into the first two episodes as well as the April update. The lastest episode began after he left. He was there for the groundwork of the current living story season that you appear to enjoy.

That’s your opinion again about things in HoT being mistakes. Others would disagree. The maps are all very different because each team was different and had their own take on how they wanted the map to flow.

Whether the game suffered or not from his departure doesn’t have any bearing on how he performed. It just means that the staff are very capable. I’ve seen departments in corporations go without directors for months and those departments don’t suffer. The staff know what to do and there is always someone in the position for the interim to assist in the transition for who fills the position permanently.

I have no idea why where the other devs left to has anything to do with this.

It really isn’t an opinion when the CEO of the company apologies and goes into depth about fixing some of HoT’s issue.

In any case, you have your opinion fuel by something not supported by facts. Mine kinda supporrted by the words of Mike O Brien. You would think some of Colin caliber would work on Crucible, but nope he got assigned to what looks like a kittenty battle PvP.

Behellagh.1468:

PlatinumMember.5274:

EDIT: I mean look at where all those previous Arena net developers ended. They are working on that kittenty Breakaway game.

Actually they are working on a different game for Amazon Game Studios, Crucible.

“Crucible is a battle to the last survivor on a hostile alien world. Players choose and customize heroes, making alliances and betraying allies on their path to victory. An additional player heightens the drama by triggering events, live-streaming the battles, and interacting with viewers.”

Really?

https://forums.playbreakaway.com/topic/19/should-players-in-twitch-chat-be-able-to-impact-gameplay-in-any-way/15

So I guess there must be a second Colin. I guess Amazon studios has two Colin’s with the exact same name.