Guild Wars 2

unblockables projectiles should be stoped by absorption and refelcts since those are not blocks

@mrauls if i recall ive tryed in the past to use sword 3 to defend against that, if i recall well i was the one that got hitted and it makes sense.

Deflecting Shot > Zealot’s Defense

Since:

Old sword 3 destroyed projectiles, and sufered a change @May 28, 2013 where it no longer destroys unblockable projectiles.

On July 26 skill was changed to actually a 3 seconds block that casts projectiles , so against deflecting shot( that destroys also projectiles), its deflecting shot that is superior if we shoot them against each other and its a unblockable+piercing.

Zealot’s Defense: Destroy ranged attacks while casting magical projectiles + Block Duration: 3s.

Deflecting Shot:
-Fire a missile that blinds enemies and destroys projectiles. Destroying a projectile increases damage dealt and it is unblockable and its piercing atribute.

Take into account that piercing atribute destroys projectiles.
Quote from wiki:
“Projectiles can also be obstructed by environment, or by other enemies in their way, though this can be* negated by piercing*.”

“sorry for the bad english and hope this was what u were asking about”

Gw2 is about gimmicks and players being carried, traps are fine, others classes have equivalent gimmciks.

That is gw2 state of the art they ktrain then your server will have the chance to ktrain other timezone or others empty map.

Meanwhile i am having a blast on node wards…. in another game, wher ewe built structures and need much better tactics than a GG after atack empty structures.

Taobella.6597:

i viewing it more as Power stomp con > con stomp bunker > bunker stomp power

you return to normal order of WvW

not really true most power builds can easilly destroy a bunker guard, due how easy is to make damage in this game and bunker guard surviability is minimal and its damage its minimal.
Overall every damage output build will outperform defensive support/builds.

Rhego.6590:

Hello all,

Me and a couple buddies are starting back up a zerg busting guild. Planning on running 18-20 players, guild builds, discord, etc (definitely contact me if interested)

My question, however, is what is the best tier/server for such a guild? Maybe the lowest server of T1 or T2? Somewhere where finding fights won’t be an issue. Let me know what you all think!

As some one said zerg busting is a bit dead since comabts nowadays are ugly as hell, besides bring more peeps with more AOE sou can overwhelm other blob (gw2 is about aoe spam), its all about gimmickness and builds + the more stacked players u have the better.
I would say top t2 or the weakest(population based) server on the t1.

issue are not condis itself, its the stacks of every cleave/aoe damage being in condi or phisical damage.
And high damage skills on low CD, game is way to much spammable friendly, not much skill is needed to skill management.

issue overall is the spam, not condis alone.

Jski.6180:

Shield generators are ok its the size of there 3 that is the problem as it can cover walls with out needing LOS on what is attking that wall / door. The same thing can be said for AC and many other siegs. LOS of siege should be a must have for a lot of skills and effect to where ppl can hit that siege with attks.

If Anet touches siege LoS again they will mess up again. >:}

Camera LoS in this game must have akitten code lol… easy to glitch, hard to use if fixed

nerf traps? how about redesign HoT specs? game feels so lame atm…. wonder if game is towards lame gammers.

ugly fights everywhere.

Threather.9354:

Well tbf if the PvP and WvW groups are separate entities so obviously there would be some kind of delay as PvP group released theirs and WvW group has to work on unique skins and balancing the income now.

Nice QQ tho with the 10000th thread on the same topic, they have to release asc armor now

WvW was never a important game mode was just a random place for pve’rs ktrain and fight randomly.
They already did what they think they could do for WvW…

Anet temporary placebo decisions strike again, ascended armor for pvp where players will bail out of pvp after get the ascended armor… lol…

Gw2 the game that pretends… to have good solutions.

Crafting is a mess, class balance is play best gimmick, WvW is ktrain like eotm, pvp is still a weak mode since issues are not the rewards…

Haleydawn.3764:

jamesdolla.3954:

do you defenders want it so nothing flips ever? I don’t get why you care to defend these towers/keeps that mean nothing. it’s like you built the tower from scratch.

Because WvW is about both defense and offense… Not flip wars like EoTM.

I agree with the OP tbh, it’s got to be counterable by a defense team, using offense means. My suggestion would be to add another projectile to Ballistas which pierce the bubble.

Actually how the game is being played, how Anet as being pairing servers with diferent players timezones, how Anet dont adress maps bugs and keeps/tower bugs that can be exploited in favour od the offense.

Actually WvW is like EOTM… and gw1 AB cap redundancy, a d big GG after cap a empty structure or with 2 or 3 defenders while ur behind the blob.

WVW is ment for pve players feel good with their gimmick build.

@ScionKai.4907, that damage and sustain -.-"

envy…
As aguard main i need to be carried by traps if i want damage+sustain…stil hate being carried.

ionix.9054, guardian is all about damage, support from guardian comes from Domes and aegis.

Healing power guardian was never a thing(unless u want to be easillyu beated and be carried by your group).

Nowadays u cant play guardian if is not a medi trapper or burn guard defeating bad players.

phokus.8934:

I saw a lot of potatoes just run through RoF every time it was up.

thats the typical gw2 player

And when we are using guard runes and they keep auto ataking and bursting.. while we were blocking … most players dont even stop to atack cause they belive they should win by just clicking a button… when they notice the burn.. to late.

Reset mmr? Deppends how mmr is being traked on this game.

The self heal is really good, the big mistake they did was make a pve aoe spam game with pvp, and not like they did GW1 that was a pvp game with pve.

All that Anet as to think of is that this is not a moba, and its a weak action pvp mmo, they could start reducing the power creep that one class can burst w/o teamplay, that is the only think they need atm port from GW1 since this is a AOE SPAM game, they need to reduce the damage output, and make players start thinking instead of macroing that easilly.

Anet needs to increase CD’s overall,
Reduce AOE, cleave skills.

burst targets in 2 seconds and be bursted in another 2 seconds is not a game based on player skills, there are to many factors for the victors besides player side skill.

Gw2 was not designing with pvp in its mind(was created for the players who want to be good with poor skill dedication) reason pvp isnt good. (its evgen ugly to observe)

@Spartacus.3192, rememmber when players ended with 4 dps classes in one side and 4 monks in the another team?

Long live RA class RNG lel

+1

And theres also a Vit(highest stat) power toughness for those who play classes that have higher damage quoficients and dont need much power.

CrimeMaker.8612:

Everyone is loosing interest in WvW. I guess Anet is getting what they want. They want people to loose interest in WvW even if you love it and fairweather to spvp or spve

The other parts of the game are no better, Anet still thinks its a matter of rewarding.

People leave game when they notice how this game is ment to be played, builds stats etc, crafting.

kefro.9312:

75% say that they dont like desert bl.
So the anet pool was fake, anet is force feeding us… the map sucks and they lied about their pool

lol did u emailed the players that do WvW and dont come to the forum?

Both Alpine and DBL have issues even eb towers have them.

Should we make a vote to remove the 3 maps as well or alpine since alpine only has players when a server as a oposition to stop a ktrain on the main keep???

Rambitshouse.8712:

NO MORE PVE IN WVW.

Caps means I’m super serious.

i would accept WvW in my pve :] thats for sure.

Definding towers and keeps that are easy to take advantage of bugs.

Defending a structure alone

im still waiting for a stealth thief zerg :} would be hilarious!

Korgov.7645:

Stealth Disruptor Traps are only needed because of Stealth stacking. Both are bad for the game and should be removed.

Game is about heavy gimmicks, makes it look like as a good combat structure >:}

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

If people are dropping stealth traps to kill you, I’d bet good money you’re a ghost Thief that spends 95% of a fight in stealth dropping conditions on people. In which case, I think it’s perfectly justified to be laying traps.

Just the time that takes a stealth trap to be deployd any one can kill the player doing it looool, and the stealth thief can go take a siesta before kills the target.

As a DH with shouts i dont have problems with these thiefs, and with traps i can be easilly carried to disrupt the thief actions, but kittens to see 8-10 players going down in just 5 – 6 seconds.. lol

shift+wasd keys+spacebar, this is what i use.

I tend not to macro stuff.

jamesdolla.3954:

Blockhead Magee.3092:

Yeah, the red BL is not one many people want to head to. Call outs for a defense of the Alpine BLs tends to get a quick response on our server. Not so much for desert.

lol if you make a red bl call out the only way you get a response is if you pull ewp and as soon as the defense is over everyone ports out and i don’t blame em.

Same happens with Alpine…

this vote only reach players that come to the forum complaning ^^ does not reaches others like the Anet mail pool did.. XD

And it is not a map issue its a game mechanic issue and Anet fix stuff, bugs apart Desert map is to good for this game lol..
….Game lacks mechanics.

Mylerian.9176:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Mylerian.9176:

It’s not that bad of a map. If you know it , and realize there are some advantages to it.

Advantages like being able to leap into keeps or pvd without pesky defenders bothering you…..

No. I do not like that part of it. That is cheating and should not be in the game or tolerated. I am taking about for open field fights. It makes it much more fun with all the cool choke points, and other attributes that come with a large map.

The only thing is how i hate the bugs Anet left to be exploited -.-" or it looks like that.

Being Alpine or Desert its the same, both maps are use to be ktrained.. even alpine is most time empty.. and easy to ktrain as well.

So its a game model issue or game mode is intended to be ktrained to make every one happy( every skrits loves free rewards)..

p.s i play mostime on defending, and even on eb theres a few nasty spots that Anet needs to make walls invunerable, when making damage to clifs.

At the end game is full of gimmicks tobe abused that is the true tactics abaout this game.

Roxory.9854:

Oppps lol, I think the new system is crap, people can still grind 100s of games and get to gold, which I thought the basis was to eliminate grinding to highlight skill. Only difference is you can’t have a good coordinated team anymore.

GW2 was built in that every gamers has a chance to be in high ranks

Casual game… its not the traditional pvp game nor the traditional mmo.
Game is designed to be played by a kitten player and succceed.

Jhoul.6923:

Kastylx.3725:

Sezz.3029:

Too much aoe affecting the game right now. They need to increase the cool down on all aoe skills on all classes not just guard. But, yes I agree. Guard is op and it takes 0 skill to play.

Just make it work like it was in wow(?) with pets; limit the max damage you can take from aoe every second, job done, it would solve wvw problem too.

this++

To much AOE is one of the top 5 things gw2 was ment to be built in.

Apocolyptic.5068, WvW is about numbers dont expect to find decent players…

And when people say kitten stuff dont worry Anet wont take any action against it, if they see the logs they see legit stuff.

Just lol back and block those players :]

Only changes Anet can do to WvW is via Reward Tracks to obtain (some limited ascended )gear in pve, dont expect much.

i like Quaggans..

.. in my soup.

Maybe becuase WvW dont need solution?

We just expected to much from this gamemode…

In terms of heals guardian is not bad at all, but against the skill spam avaliable in this game it could heal a bit to cover the lack of health in some skills.

Still the issue of bruiser it is a problem for the guardian, sometimes it feels that was the intention for Anet to make guardiana bruiser but our stats and traits dont allow that, theres to much conflict to aquire that setup that makes a useless build with low damage and low surviability compared with other classes.
Being forced to use traps is a awfull conceptm or meditation most of time, anything else does not work… because its way to weak effect.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Yes Sw/F and Mace Shield with Menders is a very Viable build

If using traps :| or medi traps.

Guardian can reach close to 4.3k and still have alot of condi cleanses, still easy to beat with melee or condi builds… lool….

With the daze trap system :P well i could be carried with that, now its diferent XD

Uthrax.4975:

Aeolus.3615:

Does WvW really needs a solution??

WvW was not ment to be played full time, just a place for pver’s well.. zerg fighthing, ganking, etc.

So WvW must be working like Anet wanted, they have done linking and some pseudo score adjustments, i doubt they change WvW more since it will contradict in what WvW was initially for

WvW was never about:
Server Identity
Guild Identity and purpose
Different play styles
Different time zones

Was about purelly on pvers taking break of pve and ktrain the thing out of it when they can, reason Anet never done strong changes on how WvW has beeen played.

Totally agree, except ‘WvW Tournaments’ and ‘Server Leaderboards’.

That was the the placebo(as in excuse) content Anet did for the gamemode have something to be played for… if u take that out.. theres zero diference between eotm and wvw.

Does WvW really needs a solution??

WvW was not ment to be played full time, just a place for pver’s well.. zerg fighthing, ganking, etc.

So WvW must be working like Anet wanted, they have done linking and some pseudo score adjustments, i doubt they change WvW more since it will contradict in what WvW was initially for

WvW was never about:
Server Identity
Guild Identity and purpose
Different play styles
Different time zones

Was about purelly on pvers taking break of pve and ktrain the thing out of it when they can, reason Anet never done strong changes on how WvW has beeen played.

Kamara.4187:

Keviin Snow.5760:

server in wvw , spawn camp for hours day after day , now ppl just got sick of it and less and less ppl on our server play wvw , why do ANET allow people to spawn camp ,
i had play other games and spawn camp is not allow , server build ton of seiges outside our spawn , we cant do anything

There are three ways to get out of the spawn area and this game allows for group stealth.

not in eb :P, at least thats where ic lots of players… just going for the stairs XD

People need to pay more atention to the map :P to see every map has 2 more escapes..

and tanky guardian are easilly beated… so this would not bring anything new….

Bruiser would work with guardian runes, trait to burn on block and damange on block, still we cant have that nor our stats support that genra of build, best we can have is the burn “DPS” build.

Besides no damage guardian(mace/shiel – shouts combo).. can even be ignored in combat, or killed w/ any effort.

Ive tryed mace shield sword focus combo with traps on the past, being carried purelly by traps dazing and damage targets was the most useless gameplay ive found, still sadly needed traps gimmickness for damage…. anything outside medi trap combo does not performs well or have poor effect in the combat…

Ross Biddle.2367:

This is funny because Rev, while having a damage shave, is still fundamentally broken due to mechanical design.

XD

Rev was initialy desingned to have no weapon swap, then Anet gave wapon swap w/o changing/balance the tools ReV had to compensate the weapon swap lacking…

OP means balance to GW2 class design standards, deal with it :} that is all the game is about, play what carries the most, when one gets shaved moe to another one.

Norbe.7630:

i think OP is referring to Reformat the WvW
Rebooting is like shutting down WvW for maintenance work then starts again after a few hours

Reboot= restart the computer (turning it off and turning it back on)

Format= completely erasing everything on your computer (harddrive) including pictures movies

Reformat= means same as format but implies that after the format that information is going to be put back on that drive and is generally used by IT techs to mean re-installing windows or whatever your OS of choice is

the question is, at what Operating System would be installed after the reformat

Slackware or OpenBSD… very menly oses… would be much more skill based.

Still WvW needs to be simplier to improve and have way much less ktrain redundancy.

Kicast.1459:

steelheart.7386:

maxwelgm.4315:

Core guardian virtues were buffed, the DH ones remain the same, with the added bonus that traps do not daze anymore and apply slow instead.

That said, slow is so deadly on this meta that anyone not running diamond skin or mallyx might as well give up on teamfights, the spam is too much to channel anything.

The change from daze to cripple is a huge nerf dont kid yourself.

It is not criplle it is slow. Slow is slowering your casts and not tour movements.

As a DH myself its a good change pitty that this skills are limited to pvp only.

i dont tell other people to play another game, as for example, people from my class wanted to play a game so i spared some time between classes, since they were interested in GW2, and i played gw2 for a bit…

showed pvp (actually did good with my burn guard build) they were horrified with the power creep overall of the game.
showed wvw state (was outmaned with 1 blobs ktraining )
showed timed gated pve prograssion towards masteries
Showed the crafting system how to unlock stuff, fractals, and afew other pve stuff.

Every one was … very pretty game but… but… ok… can u reccommend a decent game?

the same way some downed skills that should knockback, dont knockback players without stability…

Norbe.7630:

CrimeMaker.8612:

I have this gut feeling that the upcoming patch is going to kitten a lot of WvW players off.
GG boiis.

If Anet can’t control the bandwagon on their own game………
…how can they control the bandwagon of players from here moving to other games?

please open more stacked server

Servers cant handle that… stacked players, since its a aoe spam game, would easilly lag every one, unless Anet enforced diferent timezones so A ktrain w/o oponents and B would ktrain later w/o oponents something similiar with what we have now. :< while C servers would have always the outmaned warning and gets ktrained all day and night.

Spartacus.3192:

Core Burn Guard is looking pretty viable now.

yeah, but is a guardian, easy to beat -.-", people that loose to them are people that dont know the skills.

Funny i think killshot its the only power creep gimmick that should exist…

I would nerf hammer rev, than killshot warriors…

Rev/Dh trapper, is the class for noobs after all.

Sadly anything for guardian outside medi/traps wont work while figthing….

If i play with traps i win, if i dont play with traps i loose, if this isnt being carried i dont know what it is….