Guild Wars 2

Off hand sword…. I don’t care if the ele is getting it…. Gimme gimme gimme

Mattmatt.4962:

Goldenrevolver.4371:

vigor and adrenal implant dont stack, have never stacked and will never stack but its perma vigor now without having vigor. if u want to see who has the best vigor now look at thief (endless stamina trait). and to the person who really thought necro is the winner of the vigor nerf spoiler alert that was a joke.

It will stack now
Since the only reason it didnt stack was the endurance regen cap beeing +100%
Guess what: 50 + 50=100 :o

Are you sure it’s additive? And not multiplied? So 75% instead, similar to what this thieves are getting

i’m predicting a condi cleaving hammer,

Strategist.6132:

Are you suggesting that this trait is bad or OP? (or neither?:P) I think this is a good trait and I don’t think it’s OP. I mean thieves can only remove cripple/immob and chill with Withdrawal, so being crippled instead of immobilized is still hampering movement a lot.:P

Actually, when i woke up this morning before seeing these notes, i had that song stuck in my mind.

Wasn’t saying it was bad or Op anyways, I think it will be a really good trait to take.

believing…….. In Karl.

• Don’t Stop:
The effects of cripple and chill on you are reduced by 50%, meaning your movement is decreased by 25% and 33% respectively, rather than 50% and 66%. If you would become immobilized, you are instead crippled for 4 seconds. This effect can only occur once every 10 seconds.

Is there a mystic forge recipe that allows you to throw in a bunch of unused ascended rings and accessories for the chance to get a random one of a different stat?
If not, why not? I’d killed for that.

I gotten one bag slot for one of my characters, and I got to say it’s not worth it. Having the base number of slots filled with 20 slot bags is more than enough to keep me going.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

My point is; why start with Thieves if you can start with Guardians and Elementalist?

Their shadow step deals damage without the need to trait…Thieves requires to take Mug to deal damage — not to mention, their shadowstep damage can crit while Mug cannot.

You said “almost” but you never mention which shadowstep is being telegraph if not all of them.

Because “almost” no one likes thieves.

I would think Pyre Fierceshot or Tybalt for some kind of range spec

I would like to think Roy Cronacher gotten a warning for that :P

If Glint is the elite spec, my guess the spec would be called the Zephyrite or something glinty, with a focus of mobility, (bouncing around with the aspect skills and such).

and if shiro,…..the bodyguard :P

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

largest male norn with a huge mustache is the way to go

you rang?

if there is, im pretty sure mine is 0

Draegon.1508:

It would also give those of us who aren’t 14 year old boys more good armor choices (yes that’s a joke. Take is as one. :P)

still pretty insulting

inb4 non thieves cry about anet breaking stealth/ wanting the “fix” back

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUO_5EALZoM

I’ll just leave this here

no love for off hand swords?

i kinda want that, with with stances

Later date,…like the release date -_-

JonPeters.5630:

MiniEquine.6014:

Any idea for Cooldowns if these would be put in place? The Tomes are pretty cool, but Courage, currently, is almost useless.

I don’t have the heal/boon duration numbers in my head but the current test cooldowns are 180 on signet of course and 30 on “feel my wrath.”

Jon

180? Oof! Would the cast time be reduced then?

DanteZero.9736:

JonPeters.5630:

Wanted to run a potential idea past you all. Comments welcome.

Tome of Courage -> Signet of Courage
Passive: PBAoE Heal every 10 seconds.
Active: Light of Deliverance

Tome of Wrath -> “Feel My Wrath”
Shout that grants Quickness and Fury

We like the idea of tomes and if we did this we would hope to bring them back in a future Elite Specialization.

Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks,

Jon

I love the idea for signet of courage since the tome itself feels very clunky to use, as for “Feel My Wrath” is it safe to assume there will be no voice clip that plays?

Also, a few questions regarding signet of courage:

1. Is there an established range for the passive?
2. Is the activation time the same as the current Light of Deliverance?
3. Can you move while casting Light of Deliverance in the the signet form?

I think one of the wrath tome skill makes the character shout “feel my wrath” so they will just recycle that.

So for signet of Courage, a full heal with a 4 1/2 sec cast on a 30 sec cool down?
And “feel my wraith” would be a Aoe quickness with fury with a 15 sec cool down?

“meh artistic vision”

Why not just remove DE?
Problem solved

I’m all for more skin for males, my norn wants to show off. A lot of armours in game that have a skimpier version for the female could work on the male. Look at the duelist/ named medium set for example. Just change the shape of the chest plate and that could total work on the male. Vise versa male version would look amazing on the females.

I would just like to point out that the OP makes a false assumption, that the armour designers are male. I do believe it was pointed out before that they were design mostly by afemale. Even the skimpier ones.

On the phone, so I’m not digging through the net to find that sources, just take my word.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Also, conditions need to work on objects.

Crits as well.

In the newer instances, I found a condi build to be pretty effective on some of the bosses compared to a dps power set.

Even if caltrops broke stealth, the problem of you having to walk out of the aoe is still there, hell a quick thief could use sneak attack before the first tick hits.

I think it looks pretty good on a chart, change the headgear to tier 3 cultural, or seer, and your good to go.

A venom share thief that doesn’t need 6 points in shadow arts

Saucermote.9140:

BobbyT.7192:

lordkrall.7241:

BobbyT.7192:

No, it be like i pay for an item that cost 4.75$, i give them 5.00$ and they keep the change.

So you would prefer that they simply rounded the price up in order to avoid getting uneven amounts of gems?

The gem to gold price is constantly moving so one of these days it is fully possible that those pointless little numbers will be usable.

I prefer that they allow me to sell the amount of gems I want and I get exact amount of gold in return, silver and copper included.

Perhaps only allow it in small amounts to prevent people from being shocked in fast price changes

Why? people will be upset over anything (like my rants for instants). That’s no excuse to not include that level of transparency.

Another note, if I’m trying to convert a certain amount of gems to gold. Let say 200 gems, I got to put in the exact amount of gold i think 200 gems is worth.

Is it 20 g? higher.
30 g? lower

It makes the whole process tedious and frustrating, I shouldn’t have to guess the going rate of gems.
It would be fair simpler, less frustrating, and (going to pull that card) a lot easier for new players to understand if we were able to input the amount of gems we have to get the exact amount of gold it’s worth. (I sound like a broken record -_-)

lordkrall.7241:

BobbyT.7192:

No, it be like i pay for an item that cost 4.75$, i give them 5.00$ and they keep the change.

So you would prefer that they simply rounded the price up in order to avoid getting uneven amounts of gems?

The gem to gold price is constantly moving so one of these days it is fully possible that those pointless little numbers will be usable.

I prefer that they allow me to sell the amount of gems I want and I get exact amount of gold in return, silver and copper included.

Gaile Gray.6029:

daimasei.4091:

What I’m supposed to do with 1 gem???

What do you do with 1 cent in change? Isn’t it the same thing?

No, it be like i pay for an item that cost 4.75$, i give them 5.00$ and they keep the change.

Vayne.8563:

So that’s the issue? That people get stuck with like less than 9 gems?

While it might be a bit vexing…this is hardly what you could call a cash grab. Wtb a reality check.

WTB the exact amount of gold i pay for. Loosing 11s might not be a big deal to some but it is to others. why should they be punished not getting exact change?

Gaile Gray.6029:

Here’s the interface for exchanging gems for gold.

Hopefully someone can explain what they feel is wrong about this, because in both cases the amount is carefully parsed to the smallest denominator that I can see.

Are you concerned that you cannot buy 512 gold, 4 silver, and 93 copper? Well, that’s true, it’s not possible. But there’s no “cash grab” that I can see, and I’m trying to understand what your concerns are.

It might seem like minimal thing, but people do find this important. To the penny pinchers (best term i could come up with), in the long run they would earn a lot less gold then they normal would.
I don’t think its to much of an issue to be able to sell the gem i have to get the exact amount of gems.

Gaile Gray.6029:

I confess: I’m confused. I just went and talked to our UI developer/programmer type people, and they opened up the UI and showed me an incremental purchase rate. As they put in a figure, say, 512 gems, they got a price in gold, silver, and copper, nothing rounded up to the next gold. And when they completed the transaction that amount — and only that amount — was what was deducted from their total currency.

Can you show me what you’re seeing that doesn’t present an exact amount?

Thanks.

the issue with this system is that you can’t convert gems to gold in smaller denominations than 1 gold.
If i have 8 gems and the ratio of gem to gold is 9 to 1. How am I about to sell that off,

The difference between 1 and 2 gold is like ~8 gems, how does that round off? am i potentially loosing 1 copper – 99 silver and 99 copper? why am i not able to precisely sell the amount of gems i have,

I think it would be better when converting gems to gold to be able to sell it by the gems and get the precise amount of gold, silver and copper for what ever its worth

IllegalChocolate.6938:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

IllegalChocolate.6938:

You are aware that they are a business right? I just want to make sure you know that.

Oh, I know they’re a business. Thanks for informing me of that (with links!). Now, shall I be clear what I mean? Let’s see, shall we . . . twice now we’ve had a case where the forum turned itself upside down, along with Reddit and elsewhere, until someone blinked. The Commander tags thing was easy, and simple, and it could almost be argued to have been a setup so we had the illusion we could change the course of events.

Now it’s worked with this, which is also a rather subdued change overall – just add a “custom” place. Simple enough change on the user-end and maybe even possibly one on the coding end.

So, what do you think will happen if their next big announcement isn’t liked by the forums? I predict we’ll see this all over again.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the consumer base will approve of changes made with utmost integrity. Actually now that I think of it I don’t ever recall a consumer backfire on any design that was made for the sake of the consumer pool when it is executed properly.

How about we try that?

I know its an outlandish concept for a lot of people but I honest to the six believe it is a working design!

Was it executed properly though? i know a lot people get will get upset with anything (internet). but 1700 post in a day would not be over nothing

Azhure.1857:

Continued negativity even after Gaile’s last few statements is depressing to me. Meh.
Gaile, try not to take any of …. this… home with you.

No one is trying to be mean to Gaile for the sake of it, a lot of people were just mad at the company and she was just the unfortunate shield for the blunt force of all this. It just a reality of PR, i’m sure a lot of people wish she didn’t have to take all of of it, and talk to the developers directly.

Some are still made at Anet that something like this happen and that they need to build back up the trust that has been tarnished.
I for one don’t think something like this won’t happen again, unless they change how they communicate with the community.

BTW i want my graph back too.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Azhure.1857:

Thank you, Gaile, for an official response here on the forums.

Absolutely!

I’m sorry we weren’t able to answer earlier, but it took a bit of time to research how best to address player concerns. I’m glad that this is going to be resolved in a way that will give players a great deal of flexibility, customization, personalization, the whole lot.

I was just thrilled when the devs said the custom option could be done. I think my “Yaaaay!” was heard in downtown Seattle.

“YAY!!! They’ll stop yelling at meh Q_Q”

lol wish you well.

I would like to think it didn’t just take Kotaku to get involved to make this sort of change. The backlash is bigger than thing anything Anet had to deal with ever, big enough to get outside communities involved., Either way good news all around.

Again, I don’t think I could stress this enough, if there was any sort of communication on this sort of idea ahead of time, (like a month) mild rage & criticism would have been raised early (relatively compare to this gong show), changes could have been made, and most would be happy/ content/ not create a 1700 post thread in 24h.

People will always hate something, (welcome to the internet) i just think its best to keep in contained within the forum and not spread to media outlets :P

Baltzenger.2467:

BobbyT.7192:

Just under 600 posts and 6000 views under 7 hours, a lot of negative feedback in game, on the forum, Facebook, reddit, twitter.
Very hard to find a positive comment about this new gem system, you see a lot suggestions on how to change, and the defenders that you usually see with any change in there giving constructive criticism or silent altogether, (even myself who I like to think that I’m more forgiving on most of Anets directions),
I didn’t think it was possible, something of a myth, something rare as having 2 Eternities drop for you on a white mob, but they did it. Anet was able to get the majority of the community to agree on something, o.O……. Don’t think that has ever happen in this company’s history.
It would have been a magical moment too, like seeing a bloody unicorn or a condi d/d thief, Too bad it’s about this. Even when ascended gear first came out, at least they had some of the fan based defend it.

And this wouldn’t have happen if anet had actually communicated with us about this before hand. If we had known even a month before that a system like this was in the works, feedback could have been given, changes could have been made, and this mess could have been avoided.
Would there have been a lot negative feed back in the mean time? Yeah it would, a vocal minority would hate it, but that would have been contained to the forums, and I would think I would be a lot better then was is going on now, because I don’t think this is a vocal minority anymore.

I got to ask, is what your getting now really worth keeping the current policy over?
Sure, let say you make changes based on current feedback and bam, most are content.
All goes back to normal, life goes on.
But what happens when the next feature comes without warning and it too isn’t fit for purpose? Another change that makes your community question your business practices and good will towards your players. Is that backlash worth it? Would you rather not have a few people on the forums mad at you than a good chunk of the player base? I just don’t know.
I might be hyping this up more than it actually is, being caught up in the anger, maybe I am underestimating the amount of negative feedback u guys have gotten in the past, but I’ve following anet since factions (WHERES MY CANTHA) and I have never seen it this bad, plus I don’t rant as often as I should.

PS, meant to post this in the anets lack of transparency thread

You know what buddy? We might just need to go to starting zones and ask ourselves to new players what they think, teach them how to use the forums and such. If these confused new players exist at all, we should be able to find them.

I would think they would be confused just on the amount of kitten that is going on right now.

Another note, was totally going to make a troll tread claiming to be a new player confused with the new system making no attempts to hid the fact that I’m not. you know get the ball rolling faster. But thought I put that effort into something more constructive.

Baltzenger.2467:

We drink to nostalgia, to the days come and gone
For the greatest Aggression that they have just done
We’ll drive out this Tricksters from this game that we love
With our blood and not our wallets we will take back our Home

Down with the GemStore! The killer of games!
On the day of your death we will drink and we’ll sing
We’re the children of Tyria, and we fight all our lives
And when the Underworld beckons everyone of us dies
But this land is ours and we’ll see it wiped clean
Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams

Down with the GemStore! The killer of games!
On the day you revealed your true intention
We raised with pitchforks, and torches of our own
The Bashing yore missed, has just begun

It’s no dragon this time, but it is something far worse
A scourge that has sullied the last of our hopes

We drink to nostalgia, for lost merrier times
When the coming of Mad King meant fun and not This
When the player was happier
When we trusted your Team
When you cared about us
When you loved it too.

:(

Think Im going to play Skyrim for a few weeks, and login once just so I don’t have to pay for the next episode of living story.
It’s too bad, I was starting to get back into spvp.

Just under 600 posts and 6000 views under 7 hours, a lot of negative feedback in game, on the forum, Facebook, reddit, twitter.
Very hard to find a positive comment about this new gem system, you see a lot suggestions on how to change, and the defenders that you usually see with any change in there giving constructive criticism or silent altogether, (even myself who I like to think that I’m more forgiving on most of Anets directions),
I didn’t think it was possible, something of a myth, something rare as having 2 Eternities drop for you on a white mob, but they did it. Anet was able to get the majority of the community to agree on something, o.O……. Don’t think that has ever happen in this company’s history.
It would have been a magical moment too, like seeing a bloody unicorn or a condi d/d thief, Too bad it’s about this. Even when ascended gear first came out, at least they had some of the fan based defend it.

And this wouldn’t have happen if anet had actually communicated with us about this before hand. If we had known even a month before that a system like this was in the works, feedback could have been given, changes could have been made, and this mess could have been avoided.
Would there have been a lot negative feed back in the mean time? Yeah it would, a vocal minority would hate it, but that would have been contained to the forums, and I would think I would be a lot better then was is going on now, because I don’t think this is a vocal minority anymore.

I got to ask, is what your getting now really worth keeping the current policy over?
Sure, let say you make changes based on current feedback and bam, most are content.
All goes back to normal, life goes on.
But what happens when the next feature comes without warning and it too isn’t fit for purpose? Another change that makes your community question your business practices and good will towards your players. Is that backlash worth it? Would you rather not have a few people on the forums mad at you than a good chunk of the player base? I just don’t know.
I might be hyping this up more than it actually is, being caught up in the anger, maybe I am underestimating the amount of negative feedback u guys have gotten in the past, but I’ve following anet since factions (WHERES MY CANTHA) and I have never seen it this bad, plus I don’t rant as often as I should.

PS, meant to post this in the anets lack of transparency thread

for a outfit you didn’t have to spend gems on, it’s actually pretty good, i prefer it to the witch’s outfit tbh

Like really? how am i suppose to get rid of these gems? i don’t like having leftovers gems after getting what i want from gem store? Either let me sell or buy the amount of gems i want,……. or sell me something worth 8 gems :P

Piogre.2164:

I main an engineer. I have three of them, out of 12 characters. I consider myself a strong advocate of engineer interests. And right now, what engineers need is not a buff. There was a time when they needed help in that department, and anet has made them strong.

What engineers need right now is quality-of-life fixes. Remove hobosacks, make grenade kit less carpal-tunnel inducing, and do something about the fact that profession loot gives us the least valuable loot overall.

You forgot giving us more elites, supply crate gets old after awhile.

Zero Day.2594:

D: It is sad though… ever since the dawn of power rangers… there has been less thief QQ on forums. I miss that.

well that’s because thieves have been hit with the nerf hammer almost every single update since launch, not only is there not much to QQ about but also you don’t see many of them as you use too, most move on, like to the ranger for example.

As mention before, most of the effects u get from venom are available else where and those won’t kitten u.
Poison, vulnerability, and torment? p/d are no strangers to these. Heck just having a short bow and traiting into deadly arts will get you all the poison u will need.

Immobilize one of the more useful venoms (in relation to the others) can be obtain with a sword or pistol when needed

Chill? One thing thieves lack but not really needed with of the gab closers or escape skills they have.

Heal? Lol

messiah.1908:

here is a vid on my trapper build while wvw zerg fight. must say the stealth is nice and much helpful. but still have to get used to place it on the right moment or the right spot to get the full 3 sec
the video is the first time i use it so havent got used to it much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh_y6eORSCQ

Nothing against you or anything, you did pretty well, but that video just confirmed what I already knew about p/p. It really kitten boring. :P