Guild Wars 2

Rednik.3809:

Cynz.9437:

funny fact, if i use inf. arrow on my thief with orb, i lose orb… warrior can use GS spells and zoom across the map w/o losing orb….

not to mention, some classes can run really fast with orb w/o run speed punishment, while other classes get shafted

L2difference between teleport skills and movement skills. Warrior skills are affected by slow effects (never noticed 1/2 travel distance on sword leap and gs rush/WW? Oh, I forgot, you never actually played a warrior) and cannot carry you out of immobilize (without picking traits specially for that), thief SB is literally “lel I can mash this button and port across all map”.

did you try to use heartseeker while carrying orb? but yeah you wouldn’t know because lel you never played thief… see i can say such crap as well

fun fact, i do have a warrior and it is probably the most brainless thing i got to play in this game so far outside of necro scepter AA with spite tree

my point is that i am fine with thieves not being able to port, but so warriors shouldn’t be able to zoom across the map as well as other classes

also wars can use their utilities that prevent dmg and CC, but thief can’t use stealth… certanly stealth would be just too good, but classes shouldn’t be able to go immune to dmg

imo the orb should put any class to same run speed, disable all spells and give unique ones

i kind of like that suggestion however some classes (thieves in particular) use it for stability… if this change was implemented they would never get any stability as to get stability from 6th bonus you would actually need to use elite first while already being CCd..which is impossible obviously

the issue is not even lyssa runes itself, it is just absurd amount of aoe/condi spam in pvp atm… direct dmg builds are becomming rare :/

funny fact, if i use inf. arrow on my thief with orb, i lose orb… warrior can use GS spells and zoom across the map w/o losing orb….

not to mention, some classes can run really fast with orb w/o run speed punishment, while other classes get shafted

Since latest patch some NPCs (that didn’t do it before) started to ignore stealth (stealth buff is up, no revealed debuff etc.) and chase and attack person in stealth. Happend to me so far with Mossman in Fractals and Charr NPCs in CoF.

Fix would be nice

1. watch streams where devs played thieves.. it is comical…. will make you stop wonder why thief changes are so silly
2. christmas time, they are probably on vacation till 7th Jan or so, you won’t get any answers till then..if even

as for revealed debuff, probably won’t change… it seems like they keep pushing that venom share crap idea at costs of other builds and course probably won’t change for a while….

just reroll warrior man, save yourself the struggle

OP, if we follow by that logic then every other class should be nerfed too. I did play other classes and compared to thieves they are too forgiving in many aspects.

Take a war for example: oh i suck at dodging? jk lemme pop invul and lol @ enemy while HS + adr. heal keeps me forever alive… oh too many ppl attack me? let me pull GS and zoom across the map

Yes, thieves have good moblity and stealth… but that is it. They literary don’t have anything else. If you don’t believe me, roll a thief, go do some soloq/tpvp so you can experience lv 80 combat, pray that you don’t uninstall after match or two.

Lopez.7369:

In every MMO I know of, most classes only have one or two viable builds. That applies in Guild Wars 2 as well.

well OP assumes that ppl can “change” their builds …. but to what? everything else is garbage…

i play thief…i have like…2? builds left that are OK in pvp lol

oddly enough i actually don’t mind warriors so much…. aoe and condi spam at point on other hand makes me wanna uninstall

wars too effective in pve
too strong in wvw
absurdly broken in pvp

anet nerfs thieves as response… lol

GL interrupting passives heh

someone on our team DCd, warriors said: “we have a dc… ima just gonna afk”

so we had 3v4 for a while, dc’d person comes back, war sits afk the entire match untill the end, then laughs at us

…still no option to report this crap…:/

just roll warrior, necro or engi and don’t bother playing anything else

Since pvp is apprently all about spamming massive aoe on point while having blocks and invul, why don’t you give same crap to thieves? Would be just fair, imo.

And no, i am not talking about cluster bomb and choke bomb that have like 100 years travel time. Give us instant aoe spam with burn ticking for 700 dmg and immob. Thanks.

On more serious note: will we ever see any help vs aoe spam in pvp for thieves ? :/

make points radius bigger like graveyard for example…. here i particulary fixed aoe spam issue

i like how warrior passive trait is twice better than thief healing spell lol

as for topic: it was said many many times, HS alone isn’t an issue, the issue with wars is that they have too much of everything

wanna hate me? day ago i bought 4 GS with tokens, threw in MF, got dawn… it was first time i ever put 4 exotic GS in MF… and i play thief too xD

none… playing other classes makes me feel sad about thieves :/

cliffside: long, no loot
dredge: really really long stupid annoying, medum loot…

molten boss at the end with all the buggy invisible dmg is just the cherry on the top…

Regardless graphic settings, some fire balls never show up during encounter yet deal dmg.
Going to edge of the platform causes agony dmg as well.

IS THIS EVER GONNA BE FIXED or we just gonna call it “HARD CONTENT” and deal with it?

my team sent me many times to assault far point (playing thief)…. what’s your point?…

wiki is hard yo

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pistol_Whip

my issue is not new players

my issue is ppl who don’t know wtf they are doing and refuse to communicate

simply example that sadly happend quite few times

party member: (runs like a chicken around instead of sitting on his designated spot so warrior could do gate in cof p1 causing us to fail obviously)

me: do you know what to do?
party member: (silence)
me: it is ok if you are new, just say it…
party member: (silence)

what should i do in that situation?

as for uplvs, i was uplv myself and i ran my own dungeons

as for fractals, sry but not gonna take people that have less than 50 AR for lv 49 fractal, that is just given by game mechanics

what else am i suppose to do being perma chilled crippled while trying to get hit on target withe perma swiftness -_- ?

i used to get weapon every 2-3rd lv 48 run pre patch

after patch:
got 2 skin somewhere on the way between lv 30 and 40
0 skins since lv 40, running lv 49 almost every day :/

similar issue here happend as well: no spell goes off but i can move around, dodge, talk to people in chat and use consumables… just not spells…

have to completely shut down the client and log in back to fix it -_-

went to temple
see enemy war and ranger pulling out bows
stole axe from warriors → blind field → used axe to reflect crap they were shooting at me
they both stood in it and ate own dmg and died
stomped both in blind powder
they on map chat: “thieves are OP”
me: …

walk away… -_-

i play d/p
most troubles i have in spvp are:

1) engi nade spammers, especially bunker ones, can’t touch them, i don’t even bother anymore
2) zerker guards, while you can in fact kill them, in 99% of the time they will one shot you
-3) tanky condi warriors or bunker warriors in generall – yeah~~~

Simplicity.7208:

JTan.1687:
Solo Queue victories: 948
Solo Queue losses: 514
Team Queue victories: 0
Team Queue losses: 0

Obvious photoshop troll is obvious. Learn to leaderboard.

um, we were getting tripple chests for wins…btw

glaphen.5230:

Warrior does not have even half the defenses of a Mesmer and with all those defenses if you couldn’t dodge the obvious Eviscerate animation its a learn to play issue.

i lol’d..warriors…survival….lower than mesmer…HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA, you made my day sir…(and i don’t even play mesmer)

because warriors by all means don’t have ANY way to keep target CCd/stop them from dodging…oh wait

Hello, i play d/p and since new armor came out i decided to change my armor around a bit so i made this build and look for opnion.

Note: i am by no means changing backpice since it cost me 500 globs to make it T_T

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYUQJAoalUmaOHdy9E/JFy2jKsnIKOFGlTpVgm6KEVA-j0CBYfA4fgkFAUBgZmgpmBK3UZtwpIas6aYKXCyaXJVKgIWGB-w

be happy they are spamming HS at you, meaning they are stupid and don’t know own class heh

i would be scared of thieves that actually don’t spam it…._

7k HS at 100% HP is impossible (even if you play glass necro)… screenshots or didn’t happen

this HS with 30/30/…. traits (aka full glass), zerker gear (with some ptv), with wvw bloodlust, w/o food however
let’s assume it always crits, w/o additional debuffs and buffs it would hit you for 2k dmg maybe but surely no where near 7k

don’t forget you also have armor that reduces dmg taken, so the number would be probably way lower

my guess, what truly happend, is that thief went stealth, hit you for 10k+ backstab and then went to spam heartseeker since you probably went under 50% of you HP

actually i believe it is a bug

it indeed happend to me once and i didn’t even do anything, i was suddenly up and at full HP

i wish i knew why it happend but i have no idea :/

P.S. playing thief mainly btw

i saw burning ticking for 600+ before, that is way higher than any condi out there and it actually higher than some normal attacks, which really puzzles me why it is even allowed to tick for such high dmg

the problem with fear as with any CCs in this game, quite few of them are hard to read and there is no DR on CCs as well

if devs don’t want to implement DR in this game i think fear should work like in certain game i used to play: if you are feared and took certain amount dmg (% of your HP), fear breaks… there were quite few times where i died in full fear and i couldn’t do anything about it as shadow step is on 45 sec CD and often you get feared into some wall where you can’t even see anything to even be able to target shadow step on any floor

also quite few time i died getting feared into some texture and being stuck there -_-

CCs are necessary for certain classes, but being CCd to the point where you are not being able to do anything untill you are dead just generated major frustration and is not good for game imo

from balance point: what really puzzles me is why warriors are actually allowed to have so many heavy CCs… CC should make up for lack of moblity or survivability but wars don’t lack any of that… so what is the reason?

side note: i know i will get flamed by necros but i think scepter auto attack combined with traits is way too strong, i play necro as well and i was able to down people with just AA alone…it is really wrong in many ways (no risk, no costs).. i think dmg and effect from scepter AA should be shifted to other spells as well as traits

i find ice stab that we can steal from eles is horse kitten and is useless in 90% of the time… gunk at least allows quite few combo finishers

- why does Mossman attack you through stealth and keeps following you regardless if you are stealthed or not?

- why can dredge snipers attack you through the car but you can attack them back? worst part, it seems like dredge car actually absorbs??? some of the aoe as cluster and choke bomb wouldn’t have any effect not any aoe mark on the fllow if it somehow ended up particualry on the car

- why is loot at lv 40+ so garbage? i am at lv 50 and i didn’t see a single weaponskin since lv 34 and i keep getting rings that are not even infused…. why did loot had to be nerfed so bad? it used to be so much better outside of the gold reward at the end

- why at molten boss you keep taking ridicilous amount of fire dmg and sometimes random agony if you stand anywhere close to the edge of the platform?

- why does aoe effect on new maps has wider effect range than the circles marking it? you can literary stand outside of those cirles and still eat dmg from them

- WHY THE HELL exotics (that you can usually sell) dropping in fractals are account bound?!!!

- why finishing aether map as 3rd map causes your dungeon to bug out and after hitting promt button nothing happens since apprently boss instance failed to be generated….. why is that bug still there?

- WHY does LFg bug after changing post 5 or so times or when people keep leaving group and you can’t make any …unless you completely log out of the game…

i come from wow and LoL…

gw2 pvp is actually rather unique as it is more of mix of wow and LoL pvp

the thing about wow pvp, it was so heavily unbalanced that you could easily reach 1800-2k rating in arena w/o any sort of communication…. i have done it even with completely random set up for kitten and giggles like dk/rogue/sp

it is possible to win LoL matches simple the game pace is different and most can be still coordinated via team chat/pings

i do think it is kind of wrong that there is no real team requirement to do tpvp but i do think it should give more reward as organizing team is actually tiresome (especially with such small pvp community)

perfectly, i would love to see similar system like in LoL/RBG in wow:
- you can do soloq alone or with 1 friend
- you can do tpvp with a party of 5 but not alone
- i would leave the match rewards as they are though

this game should be an activity event like crab toss… not a pvp map

- will skyhammer be ever removed from soloq?
- will thieves ever be able to at least contest points in stealth?
- any plans on making point radius bigger (like graveyard) so counter aoe spam?
- any plans on making different type of matches like capture the flag?
- any plans on dealing with condi (still doh) meta by tweaking amulets (no tanky + condi dmg maybe?)
- any plans on min rank requirement to do tpvp/soloq?
- any plans on dealing with afkers in tpvp/soloq?
- any plans on shifting dmg from pets to player?
- any plans dealing with asura tiny models and barely visible animations in visual effect spam during fights?
- speaking of transfering of the looks from pve: if my character wears certain armor in pvr and goes in pvp and chooses that look for pvp, will the armor in pve still remain or would i need 2 sets of those?
- any plans on shifting thief survivability away from stealth and (nerfed -_-) moblity only? or any plans on giving thieves more team support?

asura mes in stealth, gl reading that generic telegraphed spell… heh

i hated necros on my thief

i rolled a necro and realized how necros are in fact even more powerful than i thought

can’t build toughness/healing on thief w/o turning the build into complete garbage…good try though

my opnion on the whole is: all classes should have similar trade off for similar effectivness

for example:
if you want more CCs, you should trade off dmg or survivability for it
if you want to go tanky, you should trade off dmg for it
you want moblity, you should trade off survivability for it etc.

you shouldn’t be able to build tanky mobile CC machine with high dmg on top of it

the problem is that some classes indeed are too effective for little trade off

also condi dmg/tanky gear shouldn’t exist, you should be able either to build tanky or for dmg, but not both in one

having a class that is too effective in every area just causes frustration for other players, they either end up rerolling that very class or quit game, eventually game becomes boring and ppl quit (example: WoW pvp in MoP, high rated arena was consisting of mages and warriors only, people got bored of getting one shot/one shotting other and quit game → arena kind of died out)

i do everything pvp, pve and wvw

i like this game for that very fact that it doesn’t have holy trinity

i come from WoW where having healer was a must, it was very frustrating in any aspect of the game

It started to happen after latest patch. Only 2 occurences so far. The game sound stops to works and keeps repeating sound for w/e spell was used before sound bugged out = let’s say to that very moment mesmer used auto attack, that sound would get repeated non stop and other sounds wouldn’t play untill game client is restarted. Playing however is still possible, just with that repeated sound on that very spell.

Other sounds on computer work, so it is only game. Also trying to close game, Windows shows message that programm is not responding, alt+f4 doesn’t stop the process either so only way to close client is via task manager.

P.S. changing sound options (volume for example) during that bug doesn’t have any effect on sound.

Rednik.3809:

Cynz.9437:

nice joke

I’m not joking.

you can’t per definition burst down bunker engi unless he is really bad and doesn’t know what he is playing

i run 40+ fractals every day
almost every day i get dredge
knowing that i gonna sit at mandatory clown car killing same mob over and over again for least 15+ min i might as well try to skip all other trash

- i am a thief lol
- my role? cheerleader… probably…jokes aside, more of havoc squad, scout, person with sieg masteries lol
- more team support, thieves serverly lack it (venom share is not the solution)
- issues for zerg? too squishy, no stability/protection, lack of team support, too focused on single target dmg -> SB being only real source of AoE, no real AoE CCs, so why bring thief in to fight a zerg when you can bring classes that actually have support, aoe CCs and dmg

thieves are still good roamers though, but this is not what topic is about

..so you can exploit town clothes again? no ty

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

Stacking is for bads, and skipping is for exploiters.

i am a thief, my class is per definition an exploit xD

hahaha loved it

btw i like necros in dungeon groups

Rednik.3809:

Cynz.9437:

my bad, mixed it with impale…

as for going out of point, the issue is, yes i can do it but issue is to get warrior down requires time, sometimes too much time

How fast you can burst down condition bunker engi?

nice joke