Guild Wars 2

What’s a pt?
Physical Trainer?
Part timer?
Prestigious Tickler?

I’m not sure I understand what the OP is about.

I’m not sure whether guards themselves need to be harder but the Tower and Keep lords definitely do. Currently it is possible to ninja a keep with a level 80, 5-man group (I’ve done this on numerous occasions)

Arani.9057:

I think the idea that an engineer has a “scan” ability, or a ranger has a “track” ability that can reveal hidden charecter via showing their footprint path (track) or a glowing trail (scan) on the map, and see where players went within the last say 60s or so showing where people ran to hide to. Putting them on par as perfect Mesmer Sweepers.

But it’s not portal that the person who is upset a mesmer hid they are upset they couldn’t find them reasonably easy, and the fix isn’t kill mesmer it’s what’s another viable option to have a CHANCE to find said mesmers also giving other classes the ability to contribute tot he war efforts.

This is good in theory, but the sad part is once you add a way to detect players such as scanning or tracking, a hack can be made that gives any player the ability to do it. Especially in a game like GW2 where it relies heavily on client side data. We saw this in Age of Conan where rangers could track on the mini-map, a hack was developed that allowed any class to activate the same mechanic and see all player dots on the minimap.

If GW2 didn’t rely on client side data so much, the game itself would suffer with major rubber banding and other latency orientated crap because the server determines where you are and everything around you instead of both client and server correlating the data.
(I probably could explain this better, I’m sure an expert will pop in to correct me if I haven’t explained it correctly)

Balidore.2790:

Elthurien.8356:

Portal Wars
15 characters zzz

No portal, just skill. Try again. Would you like videos?

Not really but it appears you posted them anyway. I’m not going to watch them though. I thought this was a fun thread but it appears I mistook your cryptic rage post for a lighthearted riddle.

Portal Wars
15 characters zzz

I’m not raging. I’m just voicing a concern and asking the question to see what other crafters think about gear creep.

As the title suggests.
My main character Elthuzar is 400 in Jewelcrafting, Huntsman, Cooking, Leatherworking and soon to be weaponsmithing. What will be the point of being a jeweler when the new ascended gear makes my exotic recipes obsolete?

John Lucier.5486:

Elthurien.8356:

SoM is brilliant combined with any condition damage. I use a glass cannon build in WvW but I still use caltrops, choking gas cloud and death blossom when I plan on staying engaged in a fight. The heals they give allow me to continue bouncing around from target to target without dying immediately, meaning more downed enemies that don’t rally off my corpse.

Still going to need a video, anyone can make it sound like it works on paper. But in actual practice the veterans know its just not possible. Such an insignificant amount of healing will never save you from a group of enemies, especially when every class can hit you for 2-5k+ sometimes 10k+, Much less knock you down. Much less immobilize and AOE/melee you/corrupt boon you while dagger storming. Also the evade on DB is extremely short, not even half the animation. Also, its not like it heals you on every tick of caltrops or bleed, only when it applies, so thats still very little.

Sorry bud I wont be posting any vids. If you’re interested test it, if not just ignore me. Wont affect my gameplay any.

I’ve been lucky in that the last month I have spent 5/7 days each week working away from internet capability. Every time I get back I’m fresh and ready to jump back into WvW. Maybe the answer is just taking a few days off or even a week. Jump back into it after a break and you might renew your initial enjoyment.

I would be perfectly happy if all the orb gave was a bonus to the keep it was held in

“I love being rooted while I wait for pistol whip to finish”

Probably the wrong forum to ask this question considering it is the WvW forum.

I would suggest casting cnd between your dodge and your steal before you backstab

I doubt the majority of SoR truly believe we are being double teamed. Even if it were the case it just means I get more people to fight because they aren’t splitting focus. I would take it as a compliment if I met IoJ and SoS at the same time and they stopped attacking each other to focus on me.

SoM is brilliant combined with any condition damage. I use a glass cannon build in WvW but I still use caltrops, choking gas cloud and death blossom when I plan on staying engaged in a fight. The heals they give allow me to continue bouncing around from target to target without dying immediately, meaning more downed enemies that don’t rally off my corpse.

hplee.2839:

Tyaen.5148:

There is just so much awesomeness here. GL IoJ.

OK, now SoR folks you have just earned my respect.

" We beat you guys last week and we can do it again"

From now on i won’t jump on SoR dead bodies anymore!

I wouldn’t want to deny anyone the chance to victory dance on my corpse. Jump away, gl hf.

I could see a crossbow for thief as a slow firing ranged with stealth option, blowout, piercing shot and a burning shot option. Crossbows were one of the first projectiles to have an advanced version of fire bolts, they used a cannister that would explode on impact iirc.

1. Aimed shot: Insert generic slow firing auto attack that causes vulnerability with projectile finisher here.
1.a) Sniping shot: Insert high damage stealth attack (less dmg than backstab) that deals vulnerability.
2. Firebolt: Shoot an incendiary bolt at your foe (dmg + burning)
3. Blunt shot: Shoot a blunt bolt at your foe (low dmg + blowout)
4. Piercing shot: Shoot a bolt that penetrates through multiple opponents.
5. Camoflague: Grants stealth for 3 seconds.

Well at least I’m still having fun. Best $60 I’ve ever spent.
Looking forward to hooking up with all my friends again tonight as I do every night, whether we win or lose, don’t render or can’t cap, as long as I’m picking myself off the ground and fighting against good opponents I’ll continue to be happy playing this game.
We might lose this week and we might lack organisation sometimes but I enjoy myself even when I get one-shot. I enjoy it when some smart kitten dances on my corpse and love doing it back to them.

For those that feel the need for large scale coordinated content, have you considered getting your feet wet in WvW? I came from PvE raiding games like EQ2, WoW, Rift and I am finding WvW to be far superior to PvE raiding because of the human factor. This is only my opinion obviously but fighting against human opponents and adapting strategies to match or counter is so much more interesting and challenging and it has all the great aspects of raiding like:

• noobs standing in fire
• avoiding ground targeted AoE poo
• collecting tokens to spend on gear
• getting killed in two seconds when you fail to react (whether it be standing in fire or shooting at a reflect shield)
• trying to coordinate a large group of people to accomplish a common goal
• thieves dying when they fail at their uber move in melee

It’s just like raiding but your enemy isn’t scripted AI and theres no gear treadmill or entry barrier.

Signet of Agility is also handy to refill your endurance bar after using Haste.

“We don’t need a diverse set of weapon skills, six is more than enough.”

Einlanzer.1627:

It should especially be done for the OH. While I don’t like being “forced” to dual-wield weapons (or use a 2 hander) with any profession, it particularly bugs me on the thief because they’re so obviously built around it when they shouldn’t be.

I agree with this. The Thief class was supposed to be just that, a Thief. Not an Venomous Assassin or a Shadow-Jumping X-Man.

I really wish that I could have played a non-dual wielding, non-poison using, non-invisible using Thief. A dagger or short sword in one hand, and an empty hand to poke my enemy in the eye if he gets too close. I’m tired of being typecasted into a super-stealth-ninja-assassin-dual wielding-one-shotting-hand-of-doom, I just want to be a cowardly scumbag with a shiv and a pocket full of dirty tricks.

20k is easy to accomplish in WvW because of the amount of low level glass cannons in gear that is lower than their current level.

Immobilization and movement to make it harder to hit Cloak and Dagger.

iMav.7869:

I hope its an endless labrynth style dungeon that just keep getting harder and harder as you go until your group wipes (making you lose).

I also hope there is some kind of scoreboard so you can see how your group does compared to others.

This would be cool. Like a modern day Gauntlet or Diablo endless.

Jack of Tears.9458:

If yer havin’ fun ya can’t be doin’ it wrong.

QFT

I don’t think you’re doing it wrong at all. In my opinion, using Dagger/Pistol requires more skill than any other Thief weapon set, especially in a PvE setting, so if you’re playing it and you’re having fun, you can’t be doing anything wrong.

If they add a darkness falls type dungeon, i hope it is a separate map (so it doesnt add to queue times) but also that it is a traditional masonry trap filled, claustrophobic maze of a dungeon that of massive scale (about EB size) and I hope it has solo, group and zerg size content all within the one map.

Rpgtabbycat.5869:

Personally I’ve found GW2’s crafting to be far more interesting than WoW. Plus you get XP for doing it. I just enjoy discovering the new recipes. I believe the only crafting profession that really requires a lot of materials and expense is cooking.

I agree with this statement. GW2 crafting is one of the best I’ve seen. I have 400 in all but 4 crafts on one character. The discovery feature is my favourite aspect

Daendur.2357:

Elthurien.8356:

Mug is fine. On an 80 in exotics or PvP gear it maxes out at around 4k crit. These 5-6k numbers are from WvW, and gone are the days of getting a 9k Mug crit with 150% dmg from ASig.[cut]

5860 dmg done yesterday in sPvP on a ranger… can’t provide screenshot, sorry.

The only way that is possible in sPvP is if you were already under 50% health, you had frenzy up or you were already affected by vulnerability.

Soulstar.7812:

Elthurien.8356:

Soulstar.7812:

BioHazard.2147:

Australian too !!

What weapons and structures do Australians have?

Boomerang
Stubby (Beer in a bottle)
Durry (cigarette)
Thongs (not the underwear but the flip flops you put on your feet)

You could have a profession called The Bogun that has a stubby in one hand and a durry in the other. Special attacks include:

• flickin’ the durry mate: Flick your cigarette (durry) into the enemies face.
• Call Shazza: summons a Bogun chick that berates your enemy with foul language unbefitting of a lady
• She’ll be ’right: Ignores condition effects (but they still do damage at the end of duration)
• Bludgin (not to be confused with bludgeon): Sit around and do nothing while taking all the credit
• Fangin it: grants swiftness

You know, I am no aussie… but I would like to see a drop-bear in game…

I don’t think the gaming community are ready to take on something as dangerous as a dropbear. They can’t even handle backstabbing invisible thieves, a dropbear would be far more dangerous.

xtorma.1283:

Why not just take the camp, and strip the supply.

The supply line is just one aspect of it. A destroyed bridge also cuts reinforcements to the keep, adds an additional choke point to a keep assault and gives the defenders an extra supply drain if they need to repair it. It also gives the defenders an advantage in that they can destroy the bridge to deter an invading force or force them to attack a different gate. Imagine if the south bridge of Hills keep was destructible, making the north gate the only way in or out for supply, reinforcements or even invaders.

Soulstar.7812:

BioHazard.2147:

Australian too !!

What weapons and structures do Australians have?

Boomerang
Stubby (Beer in a bottle)
Durry (cigarette)
Thongs (not the underwear but the flip flops you put on your feet)

You could have a profession called The Bogun that has a stubby in one hand and a durry in the other. Special attacks include:

• flickin’ the durry mate: Flick your cigarette (durry) into the enemies face.
• Call Shazza: summons a Bogun chick that berates your enemy with foul language unbefitting of a lady
• She’ll be ’right: Ignores condition effects (but they still do damage at the end of duration)
• Bludgin (not to be confused with bludgeon): Sit around and do nothing while taking all the credit
• Fangin it: grants swiftness

This suggestion is for future content ideas, whether for content patch or expansion.

There is one thing missing that I would really love to see in WvW one day, Destructible bridges. It would need a new map or a change to existing maps to be of any worth, but if there were several supply routes that could only be traversed via a bridge, with impassable cliffs on either side of the destination this would be a great addition to objective control.

Controlling the bridge would be just as important as holding the supply camp and would add a third phase to defending/attacking the supply routes to a keep (phase one is the supply, two is the sentry) Invaders would want to blow up bridges forcing keep defenders to use up valuable supply to repair in order to reopen supply routes.

It was slowed down because the damage output and the ability to spam it made it far more powerful than any other ability. In the beta weekends you could literally wipe out a melee group by mashing 2 and stacking 25 bleeds almost instantly (with detonation) or do 5-7k crits. The timing was necessary, however if you want to see something cool, get into voip with 4 other thieves and time your cluster bombs when defending a keep. Count out 3…2…1…fire in vent and watch those door bashers melt under 35k worth of combined crits.

My main is a Thief but I’m levelling up a guardian at the moment because I played a Warrior Priest throughout my time in WAR. One vital piece of information that many people don’t realise is that Thieves only have one stability skill and it’s on their Dagger Storm elite.

A thief’s biggest weaknesses are knockdown/blowouts, and immobilisation. The Guardian is probably the best equipped profession to counter a Thief, using things like retaliation, aegis, blowout, immobilise and knockdowns, and even blinds. Heavy toughness will reduce a fully buffed backstab critical to around 7k, non-critical will be around 3k (I have done extensive testing on these numbers, a full combo of mug/cnd/bs will average around 10k on heavy golem for the perfect storm combo).

With timing you can completely negate 2 out of 3 of the backstab combo by hitting F4 after your initial Aegis is soaked up by mug or cnd. As soon as that backstab is negated you have a couple of seconds to react and trap him before revealed is down, but even if he can stealth again, he wont be able to pull off the big combo for another 35-45 seconds (Assassin Sig and steal will be on cool down). This is the time you need to trap him with either a knockdown, immobilise or blowout, keeping retaliation up as much as possible so that he damages himself trying to damage you.

I Hope this adds some insight to how they work, I’m looking forward to mauling a few thieves on my new guardian

I Had a great time last night with our midnight crew trying to take back SoR border. Favourite part of the night was when we found an SoS mesmer in Bay keep and just as I was about to banish him off the wall he got the portal down at the final moment and the whole invading team appeared on me. I was melted in seconds but it was great fun regardless. I have no problem with portal bombing, it’s a great tactic that always keeps you on your toes. Whether we lose this round or not doesn’t matter one bit because I’m having a great time fighting a losing battle. I just wish more people could more optimistic about the game, facing a superior or even equal foe, whether it be numbers, levels or tactics is what makes the game fun for me.

The only thing I don’t like is not getting a random chance of dungeon pieces to drop. I don’t like saving up tokens to buy cool looking gear from a vendor, it feels disconnected and artificial. I like the lack of gear treadmill once you get full exotics, but I just wish the cool looking items had a chance to drop in the boss chests. For this reason alone I don’t enjoy doing dungeons for armor skins and focus on WvW as my endgame.

Daecollo.9578:

They are probably nerfing cloak and dagger to not stealth anymore.

Then they can just call it Dagger lol

Mug is fine. On an 80 in exotics or PvP gear it maxes out at around 4k crit. These 5-6k numbers are from WvW, and gone are the days of getting a 9k Mug crit with 150% dmg from ASig.

Personally I would prefer to have a blowout on steal instead of damage, this would kill the current mug/cnd/backstab combo as a blowout will place them out of melee range, but it would still be a useful utility as a set up for group play (Shadowstep behind the target and then steal/bo them back into your team for example). For those that are unfamiliar with blowout, it is the one that knocks the target back, Guardian’s Banish (Hammer), Engineers Big Ol’Bomb, Elementalists updraft.

DanH.5879:

i am more inclined that the devs are nerfing based on number of whine threads and posts, than on actual statistics, which makes me sad …
did you know that pistol whip is now as useless as auto attack ???

I was one of the first people to crunch the numbers on it after the 15% nerf and found that it was only slightly better than auto attack. I’m sick of it. It’s never going to stop either.

Once these oxygen thieves are finished complaining about backstab, they will move onto Clusterbomb, then Dancing Dagger, ,Dagger Storm, then Mug, then Cloak and Dagger, then Caltrops, then Unload, then they will find something else to kitten about, when all the damage abilities have been reduced to rubble, they will undoubtedly complain about Signet of Shadows, Venom Sharing, or some other rare ability that we manage to work into a build when we have nothing left.

I honestly don’t care too much about backstab because I don’t use it. However, If the Thief gets any more nerfs without some form of buff in another area to offset the loss, then why bother even playing the game?

Wasn’t VS the server with French Canadians on it? Now you’re complaining that Desolation has US players on it? That’s a bit rich.

Sword C doesn’t make sense. Changing the stun to a daze, reducing it’s damage and giving aegis instead of evade? Give it range, take away the aegis and call it headshot.

Damage was already reduced with no compensation, remove the root, pistol whip fixed.

glass cannon P/P unload is better than pistol whip for single target takedowns anyway. Similar damage, at range, with no root and you still get daze from headshot and smoke from BP. All the pistol whip nerf did for me was force me into range when I’d rather be in melee. I never saw the attraction in uber stealth or backstab builds, I don’t want to see backstab nerfed either but it wont affect me in the least. If our burst is nerfed more then we are going to need more than just poison and bleeding for conditions. I would love to see burning and confusion added to our capability.

Did you dance on the corpse? I heard it helps them respawn quicker. I can’t back that up with anything factual but It is fun dancing on corpses.

If I could delve into the dark recesses of my mind to discover why I prefer to play male characters I’m afraid that I might uncover some dark cosmic Cthulu-esque secret and render myself permanently and irrevocably insane. It’s better to just accept that I don’t enjoy playing female characters as I don’t connect to them as much as I do a male character. Maybe I see my characters as an extension of myself, maybe I just don’t like 12 year old kids trying to chat me up because they think I’m a real gurl, or maybe I am a Human Thief of Divinitys Reach playing an Electronics Technician in remote Australia doing mundane quests for a large organisation with little reward.. kitten . now I’m confused.

This is a great idea as it offers variety without overall power increase. It would be great to have an option to choose a condition based skill to slot instead of a direct damage skill as a variant for example. Like if Thief skill death blossom had an alternative that dealt poison instead of bleed or direct damage but without the evasion. Variety would be a welcome change.

Add legendary armour to the game with a minor 0.25% stat increase per piece but an epic cosmetic look to it. That should keep the OP busy for the next hundred years finding all the materials for a full suit of legendary armour and jewellery. If each piece was as challenging to get as a legendary weapon… crisis averted.

Dacromir, I realised that your axe suggestion was a parody I was only responding to the OP and anyone else thinking of offering suggested weapon skills. There is a fairly basic format to weapons skills and it’s quite easy to come up with a few if you use a trait builder website for guidance on the format.

I just want to point out that if you are going to suggest weapon sets and skills, it’s best to make sure they don’t overlap with other professions. New ideas that aren’t already being used will generally get a closer look and a higher chance of actually making it into the game.

ie; A ranged attack that does damage and applies vulnerability is just a dual pistol body shot, why would the developers at Arena net put resources into making a rifle ability do the same thing when it’s already there on a pistol?

Ideas and suggestions are great, but if you want the developers to take you seriously, I would suggest looking over the non-Thief profession weapon skills first to make sure you don’t just write down something that already exists. Some professions do have similar abilities to others, but there is usually some kind of flavour variation that makes it unique to that profession.

Example Torch dual skill for the Thief:
Torch
3. Slash and Burn: Slash at your foe then set them on fire.
Initiative: 5
Damage: 252
Burning (6s): 504 Damage
Range: 130