Guild Wars 2

Onshidesigns.1069:

aspirine.6852:

Better suggestion is to start buying Gnash support and join the winning team.

Gnash is a vote for more boring Living Stories based on merchants.

And Kiel is a vote for more boring Living Stories where she tags along being boring and useless just to take all the credit for your work, or orders you to jump into a wheat thresher to help a lost puppy find its way home.

You seem to forget that this is a game, so it’s not like the guy will actually screw us over in any way.
And Ellen is extremely weak and bland as a character, whereas Evon is interesting and fun.
Ellen’s presence in the Living Story so far has just been bad writing piled on top of bad writing, and if she wins you can be sure to see even more of her (is that possible? She’s been freakin’ everywhere so far).
Evon could be depicted as a total raving tyrant actively out to ruin us all, but all that matters is that it makes for a fun and interesting experience in the game.
We already know what to expect from Ellen on that front, which would just be more robotic lines on always doing the perfect goodly thing at all times always, no matter how stupid it is within context. Like her Candidate Trial right now where she wants you to fight off a hoard of pirates just to return the unmarked stolen goods to whatever kitten claims to own it.
Within the real world, that would be like seeing a group of thugs in some alley rifling through a stolen purse full of cash, so you full-on murder the thugs, then walk around with the cash saying “Hey, who owns all this money? I want to return it!”
Stupid can’t begin to describe it.

darkace.8925:

Lighter.5631:

because game is all about experiencing visual representation and adventuring epic battles, who cares if a selfish NPC got a spot in the leadership, it won’t affect us, even it does in a living story way, i would rather have a bad guy so the story can get really interesting.

Abaddon fought the other gods. He lost. He was imprisoned. You now know everything there is to know on the subject. Does the visualization of this really making it that much more interesting? The Reactor Meltdown, on the other hand, we know virtually nothing about. Surely some of you more inquisitive types want to know what happened?

How in God’s name is knowing nothing about it a good thing?
For all you know magical pink unicorns of justice could have rode in to put a stop to the nefarious Inquest schemes, and inadvertently blasted the reactor with one of their rainbow lasers, causing the magical sparkly explosion.

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

well with so many people seeming to lean evon right now, maybe not. From what i’ve heard in game and on the forums, evon has the lead because of his fractal. People think it’ll be more epic to see the fall of abaddon as opposed to the many possibilities of the thaumanova reactor. They’ve convinced themselves that the thaumanova fractal will suck, even though the people that came up with the ideas for the fractals are more excited about the thaumanova fractal.

If that’s the case then they need to stop being such kittens and tell us why it’s awesome, ‘cause it sounds like crap. They can’t honestly expect many people to vote for it with nothing more to go on than “An Asuran lab blew up!”.

darkace.8925:

When doing the trial for each candidate Gnashblade says he wants the loot for himself and Kiel says she wants to return the loot to its owner. Why on earth would anyone want to elect Evon Gnashblade to “serve the people”?

And before anyone answers “Abaddon”, would you really rather have a visual representation of lore you’ve known for eight years over a chance to learn something entirely new about the world of Tyria in the Reactor Meltdown?

Better question is, who would vote for such a massive sissy as Kiel handling it like that?

For something like D/D, it gives way more damage negation than Shadow’s Rejuvenation.

Xenon.4537:

I want a staff on my thief, and I want it to play like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KPB911-6Gw

Well, as long as we’re doing that…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOiAxoy5HjQ

No way, all the cool Engineer-style clothes are medium. Running around in platemail as an Engineer would look totally lame.
Besides, considering how the game works, which armor type you have is nothing more than a cosmetic concern anyway. Ever heard of a Bunker Ele? Yeah.
Medium looks better on Engineers, and Heavy armor is completely unnecessary statistically.

Fafnir.5124:

Kain Francois.4328:

It’s still RNG madness. But I have a feeling ANET finally struck a balance between profit and fairness.

I like how we can get weapon tickets all year long, instead of having to stock up on keys and wait for months.

Clame tickets have 25% chance of droping cause they replaced black lion key drops so you must have very horrible luck if you think this is still RNG at all.

5 Keys = 450 Gems
1 Key = 25% chance at Scrap
1 Scrap ~= 360 Gems
10 Scrap = 1 Weapon
10 Scrap/Weapon ~= 3600 Gems
3600 Gems = $45

Like those numbers? Without raving blind luck, a single weapon skin costs more than the entire game.

Man, it’s looking like all the Aetherized weapons will be disappointing. I don’t understand why they aren’t just giving us the Aetherblade ones.
Makes all the difficulty in getting them kinda moot…

Donari.5237:

judging by the greatsword seen in the live stream preview of the minigames. Aetherblade will hopefully include the rapier and the steam pistol

Wait, what stream? I want to see this greatsword. Someone said the hammer is different from the Aetherblade one as well.

Garuna.1593:

err
https://d3b4yo2b5lbfy.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/12222AB-Sword-and-Dagger.jpg
the sword= no rapier?

And it looks terrible… not cool.

Issues.5789:

Grimwolf.7163:

Even if ticket scraps were a 100% drop chance, that would still be 900 gems for a single weapon skin. This is disgusting.
And what is it really, 30%? 20%? Do the math.

So how is it 900 gems for a single weapon skin? It says it can cost 1 Black Lion Weapon Ticket or 10 Black Lion Weapon Ticket Scraps. Both come from Black lion chests.

I said that, from scraps, it would be at BEST 900, assuming you got a ticket scrap from every single chest.
900 is a terrible value, and in reality it will be far more expensive still.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Iason Evan.3806:

Grimwolf.7163:

Even if ticket scraps were a 100% drop chance, that would still be 900 gems for a single weapon skin. This is disgusting.
And what is it really, 30%? 20%? Do the math.

People don’t just want weapons outright. They want the rarity associated with them. You don’t see many Wintersday weapon skins on players (I’m referring to the ones sold on the cash shop during Wintersday). You don’t see Rox’s stuff on many players either. ArenaNet is doing this stuff better now too. We can get these new skins many ways:

1.) Do the Aetherblade Horde Mode thing and hope you get one like everyone else and have fun with the NEW content

2.) Get the ticket scraps after buying a lot of BL Keys.

3.) Get lucky and get a ticket outright

4.) Buy one off the BL Market that players post their because they aren’t soulbound til use

IDK what the issue is here. We are getting new skins almost 2 times a month now if not 2 times a month now forever. At what point is it good enough? If you could outright buy the skins you wouldn’t want them because people would all be running around with them except that nobody wants that really. We secretly want them to be rare so that others gawk at them when we run by and that doesn’t happen to skins that can outright be purchased.

Pretty much this… They’ve added 4 ways to get them. This is better than we could of ever hoped for. Anyone complaining now is just complaining for the sake of wanting to hear their own voice.

We got RNG boxes + TP + Build up to buy + Loot Drop

They pretty much listened to every suggestion on the forums yet people still complain.

I could pay you $20 to permanently maim yourself in any way you choose. Then you’d have thousands of options to choose from for that reward! Doesn’t mean any of them are good.

Even if ticket scraps were a 100% drop chance, that would still be 900 gems for a single weapon skin. This is disgusting.
And what is it really, 30%? 20%? Do the math.

It was from some sort of interview someone got. Anyway, that’s why I put it in quotes; regardless of what may have been said, I doubt EVERYONE will get EVERY weapon.
Warrior with a focus and such.

Since the recent news has made it apparent that all classes will eventually get “all” weapons, greatswords for Thieves is by far one of the less ridiculous options and would likely not be so far off (compared to say, staves, scepters, foci, hammers, shields, axes, etc).
And in brainstorming ideas for skills, I feel it isn’t even as ridiculous a concept as many might think.
Examples;

Malicious Strike – Attack from Stealth to Leap and strike your foe, stunning them. Range 450.
Repeating Strike – Strike your target while remaining stationary. On a successful hit, subsequent activations cost significantly less Initiative and strike faster.
Flashing Blade – Whirl in place, striking nearby foes while evading and reflecting projectiles. Animation 3/4s
Shadow Fang – Throw your sword, striking and crippling foes in a line. Activate a second time to shadowstep to your sword.
Dark Defense – Block the next attack against you, enter Stealth and Shadowstep back. Stealth 3s, Shadowstep 450 distance.

With this it would work as a combination of AoE melee direct damage and defense.

Or they could make it an ordinary no-recharge kit you can swap in and out that simply immobilizes you while active. The current power its capable of would certainly warrant that. Maybe up the recharge on the actual attacks a bit to compensate.

Even if you could make an effective build without a kit, the shear lack of abilities and things to do would bore you to death.
I’ve tried no-kit builds in the past; forget about viability, it simply is not remotely fun.
The funnest way to play an Engineer to me is like a non-magic Elementalist. Swapping through a few different kits to have as many abilities on hand as possible, finding ways to effectively combo them together.

Because a Thief and a Ranger each using a Shortbow are so similar?

Greatsword could easily be a melee, AoE condition damage weapon. All the other Engineer weapons act as if mechanically altered, so I imagine that would as well.
It could have a lot of Bleeding, Crippling and even Burning.

Wolf.5816:

Making all weapons accessible to all professions… This sounds like a dream.

Now if they give Engineers the ability to wield Greatswords I won’t have to keep begging and praying for the Chainsaw Kit.

This pleases me.

My thoughts exactly.
Give me greatsword!

Helcor.9527:

22,215 in a second. Maybe less. Please explain how to counter this with no reaction time allowed?
Let me guess I didnt bring my anti thief build/traits/armor/skillzzz or I need to L2P ha

3k dagger auto hit… there’s yer problem; sucky gear.
Post the screeny now of a Berserker Mesmer killing you with wand autos and beg to get that nerfed XD
’Cause the damage was just SO OP!

I would also like greatswords for Thief. I don’t care how strange it seems superficially… I want it. And then I want to get the… no wait, kitten it; if they give all weapons to every class, I’m turning my Engineer into my main so I can rock the Greatsaw on HIM.

Aw, I thought it was funny… guess others don’t.

Vote Gnashblade, you know you want to.

matthen.5024:

Maybe celestial is okay for hybrid builds that use a good mix of power and condition damage? That throws in one more state. Healing, too… although he scales like kitten with healing power in most builds.

This is not a definitive statement… more if a hypothesis worth testing. Shortbow comes to mind as a weapon that benefits from both power and condition damage. Not many pure Shortbow builds out there, though. P/D gets some power damage from skills 3 and 5. However, it seems pretty sketchy given all the work it would take to craft the items.

I tried it in actual practice by taking the Celestial amulet and runes in the Mists, and tried making a build the utilizes direct damage, condition damage and healing.
It all sucked. Hard.
Direct damage was garbage, condition damage was garbage, healing was garbage, defense was garbage… basically, I couldn’t do anything. At one point I totally got my butt handed to me by some moronic Death Blossom spammer. And I had D/D with Shadow’s Embrace for constant Bleed cleansing.
My Bleeds, as one example, were ticking for only around 66.

I’m more impressed you can get away with putting Shadow Trap there, and not shadowstep back into a wall half way through the tunnel.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

It matters, but we all pretty much know exactly what happened at the Mouth of Torment.

Nobody knows what happened at Thaumanova…yet.

Nor does anyone care.
New does not equal interesting. Old and cool beats new and dull any day.

Kojiden.8405:

So Evon works for the Black Lion Trading company. I figured if he became a council member that he would try to enact policies to create a monopoly for the black lion trading company by disallowing other trading companies access to Lion’s Arch. However in Kiel’s propaganda video it saws that Evon is buddy buddy with the consortium. So I’m not entirely sure if the consortium is just an exception or if he really has no plans on drowning out the competition with his council status.

I’m pro-free trade and I don’t really know what Evon’s policies would be on it. Someone tell me what to think.

..Evon’s propaganda video also claimed Kiel was hanging out at the beach and partying during the Karka attacks.
Though… I don’t think that was entirely inaccurate <_<

While I want Evon to win, and actually think he likely will, I think ANet really may have been, for whatever reason, encouraging Kiel as the winner.
She’s been the main character in the past few Living Story events, and Evon came completely out of nowhere.
Too bad for ANet they aren’t great at writing important NPCs, and players often end up hating their guts (Kormir, Trahearne, Logan, Varesh etc).

Many of you are probably thinking “Why would I want that? It’s still terrible RNG. I didn’t participate in that before, and making it cheaper won’t change that. Waypoints help everyone.”
Well, you’d be WRONG.
Reduced key prices means that new people will be buying them, and people who already buy them will buy even more.
But how does this affect you, you may be wondering.
Well, many of the items from the Black Lion chests can be sold over the Trading Post.
Including the permanent service contracts, such as permanent portable banking or permanent Black Lion Traders.
More people opening the chests means that more of these items will be flooding the market. Which in turn means that the prices of these items on the Trading Post will drop, allowing you to far more easily purchase them with gold.

A vote for Gnashblade is a vote for merchant access for selling junk mid-dungeon, for collecting your Trading Post sales at any time and place, portable bank access, plush backpacks and dyes.
Are Waypoints worth that much to you?

Did anyone else happen to notice the rapier also has a slight wobble to it as it moves?
I’m assuming that’s a large contributor to the interest already here, though.

Kiel sucks. She’s by far the less interesting of the two as a character, and the rewards for electing her are worse as well. The rewards thing is somewhat subjective, but as a character, you have to admit she’s spectacularly dull.

Also, if anyone really favors humans, they’d vote Gnashblade. That means getting the Human fractal, rather than the boring Asura one.

Pff, the Asura, Sylvari and Norn are all lame; they were poorly planned, thrown in last minute for the final expansion, and don’t fit terribly well with the rest of the game. Because the game was built around them not even existing.
So screw lame Asura lore, I say.
Not in 100 years could I get too much of the demon god of magic and madness! Abaddon was the greatest character spawned from that game, and made Nightfall awesome.

The right kind of siege could be used to circumvent the mindless zerg v. zerg strategy forced on us right now. For example, the ability to build a ladder that small groups could use to bypass a keep wall would add great tactical options by allowing you to just sneak up behind a mindless zerg standing at the gate. Even the possibility of an enemy using that would force you to split up to cover various areas.
Low supply to make, but limited in how frequently it can take people over and can be destroyed by just one or two people in reasonable time without siege.

Big Tower.5423:

Maces are lighter than swords, small hammers too…

Are you seriously trying to argue whether or not dual wielding swords would make sense in this game, at all?
Maybe some visual evidence will help here, because words sure aren’t;
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/51155/gw079.jpg
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/63974/gw001.jpg
http://maleficincantations.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/gw522.jpg
http://apocalypsecheesecake.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/gw104.jpg
http://cache.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/309234_S/guild-wars-2-warrior-profession-guide-the-masters-of-weaponry.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/6052/gw135w.jpg

No one would take 10% damage reduction only while in Stealth. Full-on Protection, that I would consider.

Actually, Patience is bad because it is universally inferior to the 2 Initiative on Stealth, and is just bad in general because it is only ever capable of restoring a single Initiative after waiting 3 seconds in Stealth.
It should give 1 Initiative on activation, and another Initiative every 2 seconds after.
But that would just make perma-stealth even worse, so more likely it should just be deleted and replaced completely.

Is it really that easy though, to get several people organized together who’ve all spent points on a bonus that only shines when other people also have much invested in it, when you have no ability to rearrange those points?
99% of the time those points would be wasted and non-refundable.

And what about Repair Mastery? Where does that have any value at all?

I’ll admit it has some useless traits, and Blind boosts would be great. I think if any were to get an overhaul, Deadly Arts is in far greater need. Worthwhile traits are a real rarity in that line. Lotus Poison used to be tree-defining awesomeness, but they nerfed the crap out of it…

YuiRS.8129:

randomfightfan.4091:

Surbrus.6942:

jonwar.4186:

I dont particularly have any ideas on what this would be

Thieves are supposed to be a finesse fighter, at least for looks. Holding let alone using an offhand sword would be terribly awkward, unbalancing, etc. Might as well ask why Thieves don’t get a big 2H hammer as well.

I suppose there is probably some anime or something you guys are basing this duel wielding sword shenanigans off of, but that shouldn’t be a factor.

Awkward and imbalanced? I’d like to direct you to exibit A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI1ylg4GKv8

Isn’t your character supposed to be amazing and train every day? If someone were to train every day with 2 swords, they’d get used to fighting with 2 swords. There’s quite a few flashy sword styles with 2 swords but I didn’t want to link some Japanese person doing form or crap videos like Hidden Tiger or w/e it’s called.

Using two swords is like using two pistols. Looks cool (to some) and uneducated people think you can learn to do it, but it’s just bad and impractical.

Just like casting lightning bolts from a staff, am I right?

Also… IN – THIS – VERY – GAME – People dual wield swords. It happens. It’s already there.
And also, unlike two pistols, people actually did use a sword in each hand in real life. As has already been mentioned.
Also, can I ask what training makes you such an expert on swordsmanship?

In regard to Venom function, I might prefer it if they gave all Venoms a single charge, but drastically reduced the recharge. Like ~15 seconds base. Of course Venomous Strength would have to be altered as well.

Vol.5241:

Mad Rasputin.7809:

While I agree with the sentiment that this is WvW and if you don’t want to fight don’t come here, getting their rears handed to them by ‘griefers’ is in no way shape or form going to encourage anyone to stick around and play WvW. Just the opposite I think.

Well for one, they’re not griefers.

And second, if you play WvW, expect to die a lot. If everything was so easy and you never died, what’s the fun in that?

You get killed in EBJ? Bring your friends. At least this time you have a shared interest in doing it.

A group going through the JP in WvW, and simply deciding to fight others who go through it as well is not griefing.
A group just sitting around on their hands inside the JP waiting for others to try to make it through, just so they can kill them and stop them from getting an achievement, is absolutely griefing. That is the very definition of griefing.

aelflune.8590:

DeeSystm.1256:

That was the point

Seems like just bad argumentation. We’re not both necessarily right.

Aberrant.6749:

Prolly = probably. It’s not as slanted as I think you think it is. I’ve had many OK thieves drop dead in stealth while trying to get away because of how I plaid the fight.

You should lose any 1v2 if the skill levels are equal regardless of the classes involved. Thieves end fights quickly in these situations… yes. Thief isn’t the only class that can come out of kitten nowhere and take you down very quickly though.

If you could consistently win in a 1v2 at the same OK or above skill level then your class would be OP and in need of a nerf. I agree… people care about fairness. I don’t see why it’s only fair when people can not be killed quickly in a 1v2 on their own class though >.>

Um, you seem to be the one giving the slanted account. I said 50-50, and I think that’s fair given that there are variations in skill level and performance (depending on external factors) between players who have ‘OK’ skills.

Also, NPC guard and thief vs. a player is not a 2v1. This is not theory crafting. And my point is we should be talking about spontaneous fights that actually happen in WvW all the time. Their spontaneity gives stealthed players (with stealth-related bonuses on top of the element of surprise) a pretty large advantage. Assuming players of equal skill, clearly the player who hits first and does significant damage (and then disappears for a short while) has an advantage. This seems obvious and yet so many people are not honest enough to admit it. I wonder why.

Many classes are perfectly capable of sniping a person at 1500 range. Elementalists can also RtL Bomb someone out of nowhere.

When these were announced, I kinda hoped they’d improve the effect of each piece of supply used. Restoring more HP per tick.
I suppose that might cause problems with people getting mad at others without these skills for “wasting” supplies they take, but… I still think it would’ve been better than what we got.
I don’t think you can even use this to build/repair more effectively while under attack, because the enemy will just undo what you did. It won’t do much to help you build/repair faster, since the majority of time is spent running back and forth from the supplies. What good are these skills, really?

Lighter.5631:

you probably watched too much what was that called? something something online?sword art? oh kids. why don’t you just ask for all weapons available for thieves anyway, i mean there’s thieves with all weapons across all media.

You.. I don’t… Are you insulting people who watch anime, while also insinuating that you watch it yourself?

Also, two sword fighting is a real thing. It isn’t fantasy. I’m pretty sure the legendary Japanese swordsmen and author of The Book of Five Rings, Musashi, used a sword in each hand as just one example. Though the left one was a shortsword.

After the last couple buffs, first giving it an impressive 1200 range then dropping the cooldown to 20 seconds, I thought this would finally be an amazing and fun skill to use. I’ve used it before certainly, but not much since it was never any good. Mostly the recharge was morbidly unjustified relative to the effect.
So I’ve been trying to use it a lot now, and it almost never seems to work. Not unless the enemy is perfectly still.
It travels at an incredibly slow pace, and has absolutely no tracking whatsoever past initial activation. The slightest movement will cause it to completely miss.
On top of that, it suffers the same issue as Shadowsteps, wherein the tiniest bump in terrain will stop the target from reaching you. I’ve had many occasions where I’d manage to hit someone and they’d just fall flat down without going anywhere.
In fact, I’ve had it fail to pull someone to me in a situation where I’m quite sure Steal would have successfully taken me to them. I’ve even done exactly that a couple times after it failed to move them.

So… still a long way to go in improving it I guess.

Surbrus.6942:

jonwar.4186:

I dont particularly have any ideas on what this would be

Thieves are supposed to be a finesse fighter, at least for looks. Holding let alone using an offhand sword would be terribly awkward, unbalancing, etc. Might as well ask why Thieves don’t get a big 2H hammer as well.

I suppose there is probably some anime or something you guys are basing this duel wielding sword shenanigans off of, but that shouldn’t be a factor.

Moron, Warriors and Mesmers in this very game dual wield swords.

If you’re trying to attack the Thief in Stealth, keep in mind that you won’t actually see damage numbers show on screen if you hit them successfully. The only way you’ll know you actually hit them is if you are either using auto attack and the chain progresses, or you watch the combat log.
That, I think, is the main thing that gives people the impression that they can’t kill a Stealthed Thief.
I personally think that needs to be fixed.