Guild Wars 2

Tier 2/3 seems to have a lot more fun than Tier 1. As much as I like my original server, I’d much rather be in a tier that doesn’t have pointless forum warrior arguments and just has overall fun. The quirky things going on in this thread, you don’t see going on in the tier 1 thread. That, and if our queues are bad, I can’t imagine how it would be on a tier 1 server.

I aim to do some more WvW than usual this week. I don’t during the weekend because that’s when the guild I’m in runs dungeons, which we don’t normally have time for during the week. Looking forward to running with fellow FAs.

This score update brought to you by a fiery ginger Norn and some moa birds.

Oh, I was censoring for the sake of the other player and people in my guild, not sure why I included myself – habit I guess.

Your point 5, ok yeah I was probably exagerrating, but going 2v1 against a thief in the past, it definitely felt like they were stealthing every 5 secs (even if it was only for 3 secs or w/e at a time per stealth). Its still annoying, because that means I have to start blindly throwing traps and I drop target. It happens frequently, hence why it felt like every 5 secs or w/e.

Your point 6, ok fair enough. Can a necro solo a supply camp with a PVT minion build? I dunno, but I’m willing to try it once my gear setup is complete. What does a thief do to solo a camp?

Ergh, keep on thinking of more things. If I understand correctly, a thief can spam skills based on initiative. If I could spam rapid fire with longbow without a recharge, that wouldn’t be OP? (My rapid fire tops out at I think 5k for a non power build). Yeah, being able to do 5k total dmg without waiting on a recharge would be a bit much.

My observations:

I am farming some mobs in frostgorge and saw a thief kill a lvl 80 mob in 1 hit with backstab. So I asked him if he does that in WvW and his reply was all the time. Screenshot attached for proof of this. Sure, he could just be saying that, but I’ve seen the exact same thing happen in WvW. Maybe not 1 hit, but I’ve seen them kill in 2. The fact that they can stealth from what roughly seems every 5 seconds is also slightly ridiculous. A thief without any support set can solo a supply camp as well. If you’re any other class, you will most likely need some support equipment to take a supply camp yourself.

I’m sure I’m going to get flamed for this, but this is just my observations.

Maybe its just because I’m a condition build, but I wish I could kill a lvl 80 as a ranger in 1 hit.

Yeah, I’m sure there’s plenty of threads on this, but I don’t feel like looking. I am farming some mobs in frostgorge and saw a thief kill a lvl 80 mob in 1 hit with backstab. So I asked him if he does that in WvW and his reply was all the time. Screenshot attached for proof of this. Sure, he could just be saying that, but I’ve seen the exact same thing happen in WvW. Maybe not 1 hit, but I’ve seen them kill in 2. The fact that they can stealth from what roughly seems every 5 seconds is also slightly ridiculous. A thief without any support set can solo a supply camp as well. If you’re any other class, you will most likely need some support equipment to take a supply camp yourself.

I’m sure I’m going to get flamed for this, but this is just my observations.

Jeknar.6184:

4/4 queues… And it’s not friday reset… BG decided to show up with more force now?

Anyway, score updates. (I’m not closing in my face because my Ranger got mauled by a Bear)

So you’ll nude on your ranger but not your sexier ele? What? :o

Oh and nice shot of Jormag’s Claw in the background there!

Greetings from Orr! Plush griffon and cat friend with a score update.

This game has been out since August and there’s still events that bug from day 1. Right now, the southern invasion event is bugged for Balth’s temple and they are not moving – they’re even way off the path.

Due to whatever bugs are occurring with shadow behemoth, I have yet to even fight that boss (I started doing the human zones very late on my first character which was Norn).

The pact airship crash survivors event continues to bug.

I’m sure there’s even more than these 3. Why can’t these events be permanently fixed, or if they are small insignificant ones (pact airship crash survivors for example), why can’t they just be removed from the game?

I’m sorry but its unacceptable that there’s events that were bugging out since day 1 are still bugging out now. Please fix them or remove them entirely.

Jeknar.6184:

Scores Update… And NO! No nuding… Screw you!

Do it or get Feisty back to doing the updates! :o

Next week’s matchups look hilarious at the moment – http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA. I know, this is not my tier’s thread, but thought I’d share because its kinda epic actually.

I know its reset night, but the rankings according to http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA at the bottom of the page look hilarious. It looks so f’ed up. Lol.

Usagi.4835:

Jeknar.6184:

Usagi.4835:

Hey, Feisty! Back off!

+1

I don’t see beautyful eyes in the screenshot…

There!

Psssssh, if you’re going with humanoid, go Norn or go home. :P

I’d say I get around 5-10 ectos a week. Maybe more. I try to run a fractal tier 2 fractal daily (1 even diff in the 10-19 tier) and a tier 1 fractal daily (1 even diff in the 1-9 tier) everyday.

There’s no point into going to Southsun after they removed that. The champ karka will get bored. Why go to Southsun when there’s a new wp in Cursed Shores that takes you to the southern part of it where a lot of the oric and ancient wood nodes spawn? Cursed Shore also has way more farming opportunities than Southsun. Southsun is more or less a waste of space currently.

pot.6805:

Looking forward to this matchup. Thank Zhaitan the forum warriors from that one server won’t be in the t2 matchup anymore.

I highly doubt you are talking about SBI, so I assume SoR. Will SoR be up for fighting the forum warriors that SoS has? (This is meant to be humorous, relax.)

Looking forward to Feisty’s updates and the matchup. I hope BG doesn’t kitten us too much. :P

BG, be nice to us (FA) in the next matchup. I’m a fragile ginger. :P Aside from my fractal daily(s), I will try to play as much WvW as I can/have patience for.

Rofl, yes, it should. Quaggan the Hutt.

Blade.9317:

Score update brought to you by Feisty (it looks like everyone is taking the day off):

Punch that chicken in the face! Just hope its not a Zelda chicken.

kash.9213:

Stiv.1820:

The simple loot bag change adds a lot of fun to WvW. Now we get a chest if there is better loot which is just something that kicks off lewt loving brain chemicals even if there is no real difference.

Why stop there? Let’s see bigger chests if a rare is inside and a ridiculous golden JP sized one if there is an exotic inside.

I’d rage as never before if there were a jumping puzzle size box sitting next to my corpse that will never get revived.

Haha. That would suck. “Sweet, a huge chest to open, oh crap, I just died! FML!”

Does the loot chest work as intended in WvW? Is the loot better than white, blue or green? I ask because its not working that way in PvE.

I can’t determine if the drops are better. I should just go do the Malchor’s Leap escort chain to determine that. On some of the cursed shore events, I have a hard time tagging mobs as a ranger, especially at Penitent event. I can put traps down, but the mobs being invulnerable as they walk up triggers the traps and they don’t get damaged. If I put traps down after they become vulnerable, they’re already dead due to the mass amount of AoE going off.

Kerithlan.1659:

Magiofdeath.2745:

Kaineng vs FA vs JQ for a classical GW:Factions battle royale (the Dragon empire – Kaineng – vs the tree huggers – FA – and turtle lovers – JQ). Ok not really, I don’t really care who FA faces, as long as its relatively fun.

15 weeks against Eredon Terrace it is!

Not sure I understand what this means.

zhonnika.1784:

Don’t really care, I’ll fight anyone. Would prefer an old school gw1 matchup of JQ vs FA. Juggs vs Turtles. If only we could get siege turtles to carry our supply instead of yaks.

Lol that would be amazing. FA could get Juggs to carry our supply.

Kaineng vs FA vs JQ for a classical GW:Factions battle royale (the Dragon empire – Kaineng – vs the tree huggers – FA – and turtle lovers – JQ). Ok not really, I don’t really care who FA faces, as long as its relatively fun.

IMO, they should have a 3rd daily/monthly catered to WvW and every single version of daily/monthly should award laurels. This way, you could play the way you want. I’m hoping they do this for the big WvW update.

This is the best page of the thread. General good attitude, fireworks and fun had by all 3 servers. I wish I could of had witnessed this while I was on JQ. Ahh well. Good luck in the reset you all!

BG, I look forward to seeing you guys once again. I’m sure you’ll roflstomp Tier 2. Feisty, looking forward to the awesome score reports. It will probably not be long lasting though, as I’m sure you guys will move back up to Tier 1 pretty quick. Best of luck to you all, not that you need it.

I was? I responded to Aieo then Soma, then decided to give some advice about some of the SoS forum warriors complaining about JQ’s transfers that they have no control over. How is that talking to myself. I am referring to the mass complaints your server has had over JQ’s transfers…..

I don’t comment on the FA thread, because they don’t complain. I am just voicing my opinion on why people complaining in this tier is ridiculous. Ahh well, if you all want to be angsty, and not have fun with the game, to each his own.

Ok, here’s the bottom line on all this transfer business..

Just as I cannot control who the American president is (voting only goes so far), you all cannot control where people decide to go for their home server. Sure, I can complain about our president till I am red in the face, but its not worth it. Likewise, people not on JQ (and maybe some JQ people) can complain about what server people decided to join but in the end, you have no control over it, so why stress yourself out over it? I don’t agree with the choice in President my fellow Americans chose, and I’m sure SoS, BG and maybe even some JQ people don’t agree with the server the transfers chose. A video game should be about fun as opposed to being like a second job. If you’re not having fun, then maybe you need to step back from it for a time. Fun to me is not complaining about mass transfers, using holiday events or holidays as an excuse for losing (which I know JQ is also at fault with), not having to apply for time off (sorry MERC, but that was just an example of what I think is not normal), and just enjoying the competition. If I get annoyed with WvW, I stop and go do something else. Some of you (on all 3 servers) act like this is a 2nd job and your salary and life is depending on it. Please take a second look and determine if this is the way you want to play a video game, because again, its meant to be fun, not stressful. If I offend you with this post, I did not intend to, and just trying to make a point. If you are this stressed out over it, take a break, come back and maybe in the future, look at is as merely a fun competition, not a 2nd life.

Porky’s a good example as someone that seems to enjoy the competition.

I don’t see the point in the chest for the ‘good’ loot. Its not even working correctly. I got a chest and it had a white item in it. This just seems something random they added that isn’t really needed or doesn’t work. I’d rather have them fix the “get the pact survivors up on their feet” event in Cursed Shore that’s STILL bugged.

I can understand some of the changes, but some of them I do not understand. I’ll go thru the list, mention changes I’ve noticed and say if they were necessary or not.

Snowblind Fractal
Addition of melee svanir at the ice wall campfires – acceptable change, just having ranged guys was pretty easy
Campfires seemingly going out faster at the elemental boss thing & possibly more elemental adds – not necessary, there was enough to do in that fight

Swamp fractal
Tree walls seem to spawn more often and they seem a lot harder to jump over – not necessary at all – this part was a decent difficulty to begin with
Mossman tree trick – necessary, tree tick made this fight trivial

Aquatic ruins fractal
No changes, seems the same

Underground fractal
Wheel trick on the champ dredge gone – I was neutral about wheel trick, I don’t care that its gone – the fight was easy enough just kiting the boss around and killing its adds
Ice Elemental boss – somewhat necessary – it was rather easy to begin with, but what it did pre-patch today and yesterday was ridiculous (I am not sure if its considerably better now, didn’t get that fractal tonight)

Raving asura fractal
Need to use crystals on fan below 10 (is this true?) – no biggie – its not like that crystal to power fan mechanic is hard

Volcano fractal
Seems the same

Thoughts from anyone else?

How does this work now? I know there’s been a post about this already and I did try the search function but was not able to find it. Can we get more than 1 daily chest for each tier (1-9, 10-19, 20-29, etc)?

Thanks.

Azure Prower.8701:

I think the mass transfers has tipped the balance and destroyed the morale of SoS this week. It really is a game changer.

But that’s just for this week. SoS hasn’t given up as a server yet. Because Oceanics never die and will never abandon/band wagon to other servers like some.

I guess I bandwagoned to FA – kidding, kidding.

I’m sure you guys will get your morale back and once again put Tier 1 on its’ toes. See, I can be nice.

Ok, someone go test the underground fractal ice ele boss. :P

On the news and announcements thread for yesterday’s patch, there’s a 3rd post highlighting changes a few mins ago. I haven’t downloaded a new patch, so where is it?

Nah. More level purely 80 zones would be neat though. If we ever go into another continent (Cantha, Elona), they may raise the cap, but I don’t think that would be necessary. You could have the low lvl zones for any new races specific to that continent, then have the later zones lvl 80 (the region of unwaking waters in Cantha for example could be a good lvl 80 zone or the southern parts of Jade Sea/Echovald Forest).

Somewhat like Waffler’s idea. I would make the borderlands maps not copy-pasta’s of each other, and make each one different terrain or something. The most northern one could be reminiscent of wayfarer foothills or lornar’s pass with green landscape in the foothills of the map and snowy landscape in the higher altitude areas. There could even be a keep at the most northern point (I’m thinking kinda like Helm’s Deep from LotR, except with another layer of walls/gates to fit in with the keeps in WvW as they have an outer and inner – Helm’s Deep only had a outer wall, then a main door into the stronghold).

Leo Paul.1659:

Im tired of wvw. Staying out of it since the patch has already fixed fotm i can finally get the ascended rings. No new updates on it that makes it more interesting. It’s a blessing in disguise that we are third this week. Alleviates the pressure off and gives us time to work on pve. Congrats to jq for winning.

Excuse the offtopic bit, but I hope you don’t get the underground fractal ice elemental variation – that boss is ridiculous now.

Ontopic – if BG goes down to Tier 2 and FA goes up to Tier 2, I will be able to enjoy Feisty’s score updates. :o Then again, the reset may screw all this up.

SoS recruits and gets quite a few guilds, its ok. JQ recruits and gets quite a few guilds, everyone that goes to JQ is considered a bandwagoning coward. What is wrong with this picture?

Ohai.8346:

If any of you JQ guys dislike the queue times, feel free to come over to SoS and fight against the bandwaggoning cowards who need victories handed to them on a plate instead of earning it.
No queues over here bar reset night, ever

Because it wasn’t handed on a silver platter the past several weeks to SoS right?

SoS has some of the most disrespectful players I’ve ever witnessed in any game community.

Please fix the ice elemental boss in underground fractal. Its nearly impossible now with it spamming AoE agony/ice chunks every 15 secs.

A dev response on this would be fantastic.

Yeah, this new attack the ice elemental does is a bit much.

I was just doing a fractal 14 and the ice elemental boss looked like it was doing a new move. Dropping aoe circles all over the place (up to 8 at at time) and each one drops ice chunks. When the aoe circles go down, you take agony damage. I don’t ever recall this boss doing this in the past. Is this intended because it wasn’t in the patch notes?

10 FotM dailys = 1 ascended ring.

35 days worth of dailys = 1 ascended amulet.

That’s rather dumb.

Bankzilla.2984:

kitten, does JQ not know when to stop recruiting? they already have now 2x the wvw population than any other server and you’re still bringing in more?

Did you read the previous post?

Polismassa.6740:

Point is, JQ is no longer in need of more Bodies in WvW, if your guild is thinking of transferring to a new home in T1, i would recommend Blackgate, Sea of Sorrows, Kaineng or Sanctum of Rall. All of them have solid communities, and a great organizational structure.

Yeah, I am no longer on JQ, but you’re just simply wrong, Bankzilla.

Amity.8549:

The point I’m trying to make, and I’m not trying to sound offensive, is that coverage isn’t simply everything; based on tonights performance there is a lot of room for improvements in overall strategy and map macro.

Well put and you’re right, coverage is not everything. If you have a bunch of people that don’t know what they’re doing, you’re going to lose the lead. I’d rather have a smaller group of people that know what they’re doing than to have a larger group of people that are just facerolling their keyboards.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Magiofdeath.2745:

jojojoon.8607:

Tobias Steele.2071:

jojojoon.8607:

Ohai.8346:

JaredKincade.9761:

Ohai.8346:

Kirbyprime.2645:

Problem is, their overall weekly coverage is fairly high so they can chase and surpass BG easily enough. That is, assuming that BG didn’t get some major guild infusion.

I wouldn’t bet on SoS dropping to T2 until Thursday night.

SoS has never been stacked, we always had 1 map close to empty and 1 half full. BG brought in 3 big guilds this week, and JQ around 13 major guilds.
The competition is not possible for SoS now and our numbers can not compete with those of the recruit servers.
Gonna be a borefest for JQ for the next forever when the transfer locks hit on Monday. They overkilled it, simple as that. All they needed was a couple solid guilds, not 13+
HoD 2.0 just like prx said on their internal forums that they were going to create, they dislike competition only winning no matter the costs.

How many guilds did SoS bring in? I can think of several, but I am no expert.

We brought in 1 asian guild and 1 european guild, both timezones we had zero guilds in prior to these 2. So now we have 1 guild covering each timezone.

You forgot that SOS also gained PTX and TRA. That’s 4 guilds total which equals what BG received. Please don’t try to use selective memory or twist facts to try to “trick” others to believe SOS is not a stack server in regards to wvw. If you’re new to SOS, let me help you by listing their wvw community:

AFS
DIE
HLX
MERC
OCX
ONE
pW
TS
Agg
ATac
DM
Dop
DR
Fang
FoE
Free
LEM
Ons
Tsym
VI
Work
Zn
Votf
ND
PTX
TRA

lol… I got finger cramps typing that huge list of wvw guilds in SOS.

You do realise most of those guilds you named are either really small or pvx with pve focus, but dont let that get in the way of the jade quarry propaganda train.

Likewise for other guilds in other servers. Don’t assume every guild in other servers are hardcore wvw guilds either. Plus, I don’t think every guild that has transferred to JQ or BG are major guilds with 100+ wvw players. Some are probably more pve more than wvw. Some are probably not even 1/3 of the size of MERC.

If I recall correctly SOS posters were the ones saying they have the the most wvw guilds of any server in NA a few weeks ago. I don’t see how that is has changed when they have CONTINUED to win #1 since then AND have added guilds during the recruitment process.

They seem to change their facts/story when they are threatened to lose first place. Its what entitled/elitist people do.

You’re not in t1 why do you continue to post inflammatory posts in our match thread. I know you love jq its extremely obvious but be respectful, and if you cant do that don’t comment at all.

I can do whatever I want. I USED to be on JQ. I still have friends on JQ. I transferred because I have rl friends on FA that I wanted to game with. I still have respect for JQ’s community, and I like pointing out when SoS is saying false things, which you all tend to do.

Maybe I’ll see you in tier 2 one day soon.

Evalana.5480:

Salad score update. With a couple/few other heads of lettuce!

Mmm salad, time to get the thousand island.

Azure Prower.8701:

Actinotus.6410:

Azure Prower.8701:

MingYew.8521:

HAHAHA, SOS just prepare to lose and drop tier. We, JQ are sure to win and keep on crushing you no matter what. Even ppl from SBI hate you guys that they come to us and help us to crush you.

Good job JQ, we’re number one.

Edit: I forgot, even PRX come to us.

SoS has been through worse. This was SoS 5 months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ntkZC6RTg

I have such fond memories if that matchup…

…and am so sad to now see ET ranked 24th from 24 US servers.

Exactly my point. SoS stands the test of time whilst other servers are temporary. I’m putting my money on BG being the next server to plummet in ranking.

JQ has stood the test of time mind you. They’ve been in Tier 1 since launch. Clearly, you’re not talking about longevity in being #1 since BG hasn’t been #1 yet.

People seem to forget JQ has been in tier 1 since launch.

“It was New Year’s week”
“We have less population than BG and JQ”

Last week, everyone was saying BG has terrible numbers, now this week people are saying BG has more numbers than SoS? Huh?

If you drop a tier – see you in Tier 2 when/if we get there SoS. I will have fun killing you all once again and I look forward to the excuses you’ll make if FA does better than you.

If you do stay in Tier 1 after this week, then quit your whining – you can’t be expected to have 1st place be handed to you on a silver platter all the time.

Evalana.5480:

Here is a random score update, my Necro has a new pair of dancing shoes.

Dat Norn, lol. She looks awesome. :P

saiyr.3071:

Magiofdeath.2745:

To that Norn thief on DB that I lured into the godslore zerg, I dun like you. :P

Def need better armor.

Maguuma – how many unwanted transfers did you get?

Think of it this way, before this we queued like two maps map at reset.

As opposed to all 4. Heh.