S P E E D Starr #0 Necro NA or
I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
Ya, I’m leader board 26 and can confirm everyone up here is bad. I wished I placed bronze so I could have a challenge,I hear the guys down there are monsters.
The real monsters are the players who 2-man cap an empty Home while your glass Thief attempts to solo 2 Warrs and an Ele at mid.
but who is actually dumber the theif trying to 3v1? or the 2 cappers?
Been using something like this for a while now. Its pretty interesting… ive found the best strat as a necro now is to literally make the entire team focus me (which they will do almost 100 of the time) and i just kite and stay alive long enough that we can get a +1 somewhere. You can change amulets and traits a a bit depending on the comp of the other team…. more specifically you can go a little glassy on the ammy if the other team doesnt have a theif. Biggest issue you are going to have is you can not win a 1v1 againts those trolly condi thieves. Also you probably wont be able to kill a warrior but he wont be able to kill you either as long as you dont eat EVERY stun.
its the way the designed it. There are some certain combinations of signets where i could see a serious problem combined with other traits for health regen and shroud regen.
its because they made DS a transform. And they dev see it as almost an pseudo invuln.
gais gais am best necro na this mm is da brokeenest i win all placement games i am the carriest playa in hemispear i place wood div wai dis? i am Legend so place me legen also give me shines also plox stop all the dummy haxxors abd make surest i winns the mathes k thnk u
as a necro you shouldn’t need movement speed to much…. between the warhorn and the need to be babysat in higher tiers you should pretty much have perma swiftness. As far as necro mobility it was improved so much with reaper. Effective use of RS2 and wurm makes for a pretty mobile necro
Playing necro I always kind of cringe if I dont have a support on my team. maybe thats just me though.
If your pug team don’t play as a team don’t move together you are totally useless there with necro as you just will be the food of the enemy + your survivability don’t scale well enough other than some 1v1 up to which class/classes jump on you. Which means if your team don’t have teamplay or never support/help. You can’t do kitten on those matches just suffer the necro issues because of non teamplayer pugs and bad survivability scale + enemy use all focus necro tactikitten
erally the first thing i tell my team “kill the other necro while i attempt to survive and kite as long as i possibly can” now it seems you are much better off going for the kills and losing the point temporarily.
@thatnaeslguard
Wish I had known, I’d have been first in line.
@exiton
This person displayed near perfect timing and skill rotations. They basically hard carried there team and seemed to be everywhere.
-edit- Also, I’d contend that “getting better” is more about the individual than it is about getting on TS and following someone’s orders.
honestly just from what ive seen you post i dont think you are in tune enough with this game to know what “perfect timing and skill rotations are”
you can only go so far on your own. You eventually hit a wall that requires you to work WITH VOICE COMMS WITH A TEAM.
i agree i also enjoy the taste of mesmer tears.
I would love to see someone with out a doubt show any particular person was using macros.
i second this fantabulous idea.
please prove your allegations before blaming others for your loss or lack of skill.
This build is pretty hilarious for 1v1s… and really an situation… i know it looks really wierd and i sort of made it by accident but if you kite the warrior around you can win as long as you dodge the pretty obvious stuns. In teamfights yeah your minions will die… but once you get enough lf you can stay in ds for longer than youd think. you pull condis to you and gain lf as your minions pull condis off of you its pretty fun. But you really need to kite and blood fiend and heal shout are completely interchangeable. can also use CC if you feel like it. You wont be having condi issues.
The only time i really die on this build is to that dumb troll dodge condi build or if i mis use the wurm.
im a casual player and i can do that combo in your video no problem…. on a rev i do what you were talking about without even thinking about it lol… just reflex now.
yeah i can hit all of the Glint macros at the same time on my mouse no problem….. also used to be able to do the stow tricks on ele and mes without macros np……
anyone complaining about macros is really just showing they are a sore sport who wants to blame their on shortcomings on others.
so much stupid false information here with a bunch of people assuming kitten because of their “opninion” kittening hilarious
only one appropriate response to this. Welcome to the Interwebs!
And while i typically dont troll or afk or anything like that the people that do really dont bother me much, oh noes i might lose a game i wont have fun if i lose a game! I dont have fun playing this game i only have fun winning….. To all those people i suggest single player games.
Ive been one of the people who said it would be OP as kitten for necros to get healed in shroud by allies… but now with the death of the ele and and rise being nerfed into oblivion i think it could work now… but i would make it some sort of trait option in blood.
The thing is that we already this option, it’s called vampiric healing a.k.a “siphon health” and it can work quite decently with the right build, slap Blighter’s Boon with it and you can regen in Shroud very convincingly.
As a side note, the real issue with necros durability is always going to be the lack of self-blocks/invulns and poor access to stability, doesn’t matter how good a necro can regen inside or outside Shroud, if we don’t have a form of babysitting (ally peeling) then we’re food to CC chain.
Oh you are right of course I completely forgot what any of the traits in the blood magic line do, and I’ve never tried a vamp necro before. Is it effective?
As far as the cc… well core necro might not have much stab but reaper has it. And I’m not talking about 1v1 fights…. teamfights you will have someone near you and yes you get cced alot because people gun for the necro and half of your teammates heals will go to waste unless you are incredibly coordinated, it’s not that we can be cced so much anymore it’s we basically deny ourselves of support 50% of the time.
It’s possible that if we allowed heals through deathshroud maybe like get 50% of the incoming heals while in ds plus regen now works through shroud. Just as a start… although I do see the potential for necros to become unkillable tanks in some scenarios.
Also making heals work through ds may discourage people from targeting necro first all the time reducing CC
Well I’m getting nowhere with my opinion.
If the developers think a corruption necro could use sustainability then I imagine allowing regen in shroud is a good way to do that. I honestly see repercussions in that, but I won’t comment on it anymore.If you dont tell what kind of repercussion there could be, how should we then know if your objection is justified or not?
Because he has a secret build that can abuse the regeneration boon on a necro that no one since launch has thought of because of just how many variables we have to work with when making build………..
Regeneration in shroud would be fine… maybe make you last another half second before dying….
Ive been one of the people who said it would be OP as kitten for necros to get healed in shroud by allies… but now with the death of the ele and and rise being nerfed into oblivion i think it could work now… but i would make it some sort of trait option in blood.
I don’t get the poo poo party on the staff 2.
It has AoE, it provides weakness, and if you hit someone using a skill, it hits like a truck and dazes. All of this for 5 energy on a five second cooldown.
Why the hate? It’s a great skill, especially in PvP.
Staff 2 is totally a great skill on paper, but in practice the fact that it’s a two-part skill makes it clunky and awkward and too slow to use as a reactionary skill or a quick interrupt. That’s my understanding of the staff 2 hate anyway, but all of that seems more relevant to Pvp. All in all I agree that Staff is a pretty great weapon for the rev all round, skill 2 is the only one that could be better.
swap to shiro hit that quickness and then staff 2 2 1111111
@frostdraco
“There is no stun break in curses or death magic, the two trait lines I advised against. Are you even reading my words?”
does plague signet trait not count?
Indeed it does.
I don’t think he’s able to talk about more than one trait line at a time though. It’s his traits or you obviously know nothing, talking about the synergy of two trait line’s traits ( for example: Shrouded Removal, Speed of shadow and Foot in the Grave) seems to just go over his head.
I was talking about curses specifically. That seems to go over YOUR head.
if you were talking about curses than you were wrong. There is a stunbreak in curses.
While plague sending theoretically is indeed a stunbreak, i dont think it is really useful as a stunbreak. Cmon a stunbreak that requires you to crit something, when you have 3 more more conditions on you is a near impossible task while cced (i say near impossible since it is possible to active it with locust swarm etc.).
i understand.
That wasn’t the point though.
@frostdraco
“There is no stun break in curses or death magic, the two trait lines I advised against. Are you even reading my words?”
does plague signet trait not count?
Indeed it does.
I don’t think he’s able to talk about more than one trait line at a time though. It’s his traits or you obviously know nothing, talking about the synergy of two trait line’s traits ( for example: Shrouded Removal, Speed of shadow and Foot in the Grave) seems to just go over his head.
I was talking about curses specifically. That seems to go over YOUR head.
if you were talking about curses than you were wrong. There is a stunbreak in curses.
Since we already have WvW, I’d rather the Devs spend time and resources on something else.
Good luck.
WvW is dead.
Remove WvW servers and add open PvP Tyria. That would be fun. It could be like WvW. As the OP stated, guilds could claim outposts/cities and attempt to defend them. By holding an outpost someone in Arah let’s say, your guild could gain MF bonuses or something in the area that surrounds it, ect.. ect.. I would spend hours and hours in to this game mode. It would easily replace WvW.
Probably something that would never happen but it would be fun.
Reminds me of old Ultima Online days.
would be pretty freaking awesome. Would certainly give pvp players a reason to go into PVE a little…. If it turned into something like UO where the PvP players protected theyre pve spawners, give better loot in the open PvP server to encourage people to risk playing it and possibly dying.
again i say all this but we both know there are too many entitled brats that will fight against anything that might give pvp players something nice. Because they are too “paranoid” about dying in a video game where you cant even be looted….
“i dont want people greifing me while im fighting monsters”
They arent greifing you….. they arent bullying you. Its a game they happen to enjooy fighting other players, you happen to enjoy pressing 1 in a corner.
Ultima Online PvP was the best ive ever played, Massive fights where pve players and pvp players get in on the action. What made it magical is both pve and pvp players needed each other. Pve players needed PvPers to protect them from the other pvpers and PvPers need pvers to make sure it didnt take an hour to kill the spawn.
Best time ive ever had in a video game
@frostdraco
“There is no stun break in curses or death magic, the two trait lines I advised against. Are you even reading my words?”
does plague signet trait not count?
Clone death traits were the worst Ithilwen. Everyone complains about passives yet you want to bring back the number one culprit? No. Thank. You.
To the OP, I like this suggestion. Years ago my go to was power shatter and I really miss it. Mesmers should be more than just portals and moas.
Someone likes passives, tis all it is.
lol what a joke i remember when i used to have people accusing me of macroing because i could do the stow ele stow weapon lol
so whatever i play pvp i lose a lot, i got 11 loses 3 wins on this ranked season
i dont play pvp much and im noob, i tried play unranked and it was worst than ranked
is there any skill balance or just random skill players ?Unfortunately, since the game balance is completely gone, build matter more than anything else.
Take a “net” META build.
Like you find on metabattle.com.
Then train that build for 2 or 3 hours in hotjoin (don’t play cap, simply try to kill people).
Then do some unranked until you feel confortable with where to GO.
Then rank queue will get better for you.
Sorry… BUILD > Skill in this game. Sad, since it was Skill > Build before the june 2015 patch.
In every single game is Build on first place (LoL,Dota,Aion,AoC,UltimaOnline,EvE and many other game) , same in real life is build(muscles/equipment) > skill =)
You said ultima online. I like you man.
Bad players hurt the game FAR more than toxic players. It’s the sad reality. Although, they aren’t mutually exclusive.
The problem is not whether there are good and bad players. There’s always been good and bad, in every competitive game, be it video game or irl.
But playing in PVP in videogames didn’t feel like playing with children before and it was still fun to play (thanks LoL, thanks rewards!).- Yelling and insulting never helps winning a game, this is useless no matter what.
- Yes, there are some behaviors that shouldn’t happen in higher divisions, but this is rarely where the worst toxicity happens. When you’re in low division, by definition you will find players that are good and bad, deal with it, if you’re really that good, teach your team what to do and tell them where to go.
- Everyone has to start as a rookie, everyone has to learn. And most importantly: Everyone has the right to play. As stated before, this toxic behavior doesn’t only happen in ranked. “Go back to pve” is pure elitism and just a terrible way to welcome a new player. Rookies can’t leave unranked with the full experience needed for ranked, they need more practice.
- A large portion of the whiners complain whenever they start losing, and not because someone in particular is bad. It’s just how things are, there’s gotta be a loser. But when you lose a fight by a few points, you could just admit this was a good fight and congrats the other team. Fair-play can be nice too.
Insulting is a cheesy way to hide your own lack of leadership (and skill, sometimes). Again, a good player is able to give instructions from the start so that the “not so good players” know where they’re expected. This is infinitely better than flat out insulting them because you think you’re a pvp god.
If you come to an agreement on a game plan and certain players do the opposite……There’s no coaching that stupidity.
Besides I didn’t buy Guild Wars Virtual Coach Edition. I bought regular old GW2.
Oh come on, how often do pug groups actually talk about what to do beforehand, besides who go home?
You guys take the worst examples while ignoring the fact that they are not the most common, lots of trash talking is actually thrown as soon as a team is losing, just because some people are pro at blaming everyone.It always surprises me how people think trash talking is okay because someone is supposely bad. It’s not, Internet makes it easier but it certainly doesn’t make it more right.
You also don’t need to be a coach to give advices to help your team win, that just makes you a more adult player and proves with actual facts that you’re good. And if anything, it’s less work than just spamming insults.
Thanks at least some players are actually good at that.
This is the interwebs no one is an adult. And I kind of like it that way. Besides trash talk can only bother you if you let it. You are in control.
I’m not saying I am skilled and not acting tough I apologize if my observation offended you.
I’m i the only one that thinks chat rage is hilarious?
I fully agree with you here.
If you are still at the level where 4 people are camping home you and your team have a lot more to worry about than boss kills. Boss stealing is a skill. It requires map awareness and skill timing. Lets not remove any more skill based things from this game.
Stealing bosses is a great mechanic that requires capitalizing on someone’s mistake, map awareness, not to mention very rewarding to pull off, where you essentially gamble your time.
Any other mechanic would just dumb it down to the point where the first person to blindly rush the NPC is heavily favoured, they’d hardly have to think about getting stopped/killed or stolen as long as they put a bunch of conditions up. It’s really fine as is.
Or you could take 51% health from the NPC and then peel. Then the enemy rolls up and kills the NPC and you get the points. That sounds fair…
They wouldn’t try to kill it………
As much as I think it’s a cool idea it would ruin zerker stance for wars which is what I’m guessing is how you got your idea due to the resistance on war. Zerker stance would have to get reverted (necros would be super countered) or it would have to pulse resistance quickly.
Resistance is strong but it’s still a boon and technically it’s not 100% immune. So you can still load people up and when the resistance ends it does its damage.
All the resistance skills would have to be buffed some other way to make up for the difference it might actually cause more imbalance
I caved and got overwatch. We play ok? I am esports Mcree.
You would play mcree.
Aeroxe played against you a decent amount you were always respectable and better than your giving yourself credit for. Gl in medicine you’ll be a fine physician.
Rock “dear anet please ban paper because.” “ps scissors is fine”
the 40% uptime quickness mancer ive been playing uses wells and its quite entertaining.
Ya revamped DH is a bit too strong right now. But dont forget Revanent. They have blocks evades energy regen and perma protection/regeneration if they feel like it. They could use some toning down as they already have 2 healing skills to boot.
i mean i know technically shiro has a heal… but cmon….
oooh o like this lets compare a weapon skill with a utility skill on an entirely different class this should work
Well, why so many special snowflakes think this is a suggestion?
This is “what if” thread,
While your question may be hypothetical it’s clear it has a suggestive element.
Minions only scale off of three player-based stats: Condition Damage, Condition Duration, and Boon Duration. If you were to plan on using minions, Condition Damage over Power is the route that you would rather take anyway.
Is this accurate?
That is the point, you running a non meta build will make you “Better” since you will need to learn what and when to dodge/burst/timing ect. When you eventually switch back to a meta build you will have a better grasp of the basics.
(This was mostly directed at new player’s i have no clue about your total game xp/time )
Ehh might be true for some basic stuff, but the cooldowns and gameplay are going to be different with the meta build. Different strengths/weaknesses.
Regon don’t lie and say you main thief you just picked it up recently.. You main DH
So, if you pick a new class and play it the most often currently, then that isn’t your main?
Your main is the one you have the most experience on. Like for season 1 and 2 I mostly played rev but my main was still reaper.
I’d be willing to play with you guys for a little bit just to see if we mesh. I’ve played in a ton of ag tourneys usually as an FA. Almost won a few as FA team. I play Reaper and Rev.
Worst class right now, and probably ever
lol, hyperbole much with the ever part.
Started playing 6 moth ago, done some research before starting. To my knowledge, no one was pushed so hard out off meta when even non-meta builds on other classes are considered better than best DH builds. Then again, i just started playing 6 moth ago, so you can use that against my point.
Yeah the whole 6 months thing kinda ruins your credibility there.
best way to beat a warrior is just to keep kiting and spaming scepter 1, save your transfers and stunbreak for when they inevitably catch up to you. The longer you can keep up the scepter 1 spam safely the better off you are.
I would actually say it was because it was already subpar in competitive play and so ridiculous to the low tier that it didn’t matter if they nerfed it as long as they thought of a way to resurrect it all around.
Then again I understand red circles are bad and dh has red circles…
I’m guessing either dh’s or somwho they buff all vanilla specs.
no way will it be DH, because everyone at ANET thinks DH is in a good place and even as it is currently, all the scrubs whine that they are getting owned by Trap DH.
They don’t really balance for the low level population though…. I know it’s a higher percentage of the population but in the upper tiers dhs are garbage and we didn’t see any? (Could be wrong) in recent tourneys.
They do balance mainly for the average, most populated player base. They’re the one’s who keep the game going so I don’t know why you would say that… DH is a really good class when going up against Amber rated players so they need to walk a fine line with buffs/nerfs.
Nope they dont. They balance at the competitive level. Would be pretty silly to balance around the low skill players…. would absolutely ruin competitive play
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Go ahead and look at the nerfs and changes to these classes and you will clearly see that they don’t. Competitive play revolves around the common factor and that is the every day player who doesn’t play in PvP competitive. The pool of competitive players is so small compared to others. You need to think outside of your thought vacuum.
Your absolutely right I have no idea I’ll just be in my “own” little world over here you enjoy yours.
I’m guessing either dh’s or somwho they buff all vanilla specs.
no way will it be DH, because everyone at ANET thinks DH is in a good place and even as it is currently, all the scrubs whine that they are getting owned by Trap DH.
They don’t really balance for the low level population though…. I know it’s a higher percentage of the population but in the upper tiers dhs are garbage and we didn’t see any? (Could be wrong) in recent tourneys.
They do balance mainly for the average, most populated player base. They’re the one’s who keep the game going so I don’t know why you would say that… DH is a really good class when going up against Amber rated players so they need to walk a fine line with buffs/nerfs.
Nope they dont. They balance at the competitive level. Would be pretty silly to balance around the low skill players…. would absolutely ruin competitive play
If ANET balanced around competitive play why do they keep nerfing DH in every patch? Seeing a DH in high level play is as common as Unicorn sightings in Central Park. DH is the purest example of ANET balancing for the masses and not for competitive play.
Which is exactly why I said I think dh or vanilla classes will be buffed…..
I’m guessing either dh’s or somwho they buff all vanilla specs.
no way will it be DH, because everyone at ANET thinks DH is in a good place and even as it is currently, all the scrubs whine that they are getting owned by Trap DH.
They don’t really balance for the low level population though…. I know it’s a higher percentage of the population but in the upper tiers dhs are garbage and we didn’t see any? (Could be wrong) in recent tourneys.
They do balance mainly for the average, most populated player base. They’re the one’s who keep the game going so I don’t know why you would say that… DH is a really good class when going up against Amber rated players so they need to walk a fine line with buffs/nerfs.
Nope they dont. They balance at the competitive level. Would be pretty silly to balance around the low skill players…. would absolutely ruin competitive play
I’m guessing either dh’s or somwho they buff all vanilla specs.
no way will it be DH, because everyone at ANET thinks DH is in a good place and even as it is currently, all the scrubs whine that they are getting owned by Trap DH.
They don’t really balance for the low level population though…. I know it’s a higher percentage of the population but in the upper tiers dhs are garbage and we didn’t see any? (Could be wrong) in recent tourneys.
I’m guessing either dh’s or somwho they buff all vanilla specs.
Anecdotal evidence here but my acct isn’t quite beta but very close maybe even day of launch and I won about 60 matches this season out of around 68…… so I don’t think it’s old accts are bugged. In my opinion it’s because I haven’t stopped improving. I didn’t tank my mmr on purpose like everyone else did season 1 and 2.
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