Guild Wars 2

Send that trait to the grave already

ranging from most used to least

Bowl of Orrian Truffle and Meat Stew
Mushroom Loaf
Omnomberry Ghost
Fried Golden Dumpling (when on strength rune)
Bowl of Curry Pumpkin Soup
Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup

lol cant believe it took them so long to get you with all the potential cc in their bags

still the damage output from condi necro is quite bad but it doesn’t lack in variety

Since the bonus boon and condition durations from trait lines have been removed, I think the best you can do to get close to max duration is by using nightmare runes, sigils of malice, giver weapons, koi cakes and a toxic crystals for 95% duration.

I run full zerker with 3 solider trinkets

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I sometimes change the food to endurance regen food
go with what suits your style

thanks for writing this post

well well if it isnt the frandliest engi in game….

the passive is a pain when it draws movement impairing conditions to add to the slow as hell class

teach us how to copy/paste please

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ThePaladin.2140:

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

ThePaladin.2140:

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

OP seriously what are you talking about? I also play medi guard and melting/BBQing thieves is easier than ever.

their condi remove no longer cures immob so just land a scepter/hammer immob after withdraw and burst stealth wont clear it. even if you were so incompetent to not be able to pressure a thief have your smite condition/smiter’s boon, retal and shattered aegis do it for you.
sentinel with a lot of healing? what is the point if your counter pressure is zeros. clearly something is wrong with either your play-style, understanding of your tools or your build.

Might I ask what server do you represent and where do you roam? It might be we’re dealing with different playclass thieves.

babazhook.6805:

Nephrite.6954:

PU mesmers are farrrr more dangerous now compared to thieves. They’ve got bigger burst and better escape thanks to longer stealth duration. I’d worry about them more.

While I have taken every profession to 80 invcluding the mesmer, I would never consider myself a great Mesmer player. 80 percent of my time is on thief.

So last night I take my first look at my mesmer in the new system and rebuild him. That 100 percent to stealth duration caused my jaw to drop. I than set him up as a Condi PU mesmer build , which I had not played before, and went into WvW.

SO easy. Of all the classes I have tried in the new system this was the easiest and deadliest out of the gate. I was 1v4ing guys and not coming close to dying even as they got downed. Yeah they were poor players testing their own builds no doubt bt I am NOT good at mesmer either.

I than ran into other such mesmer builds and it was the same thing. 4 guys and more chasing them around and getting no where.

This right here is why stealth is a BIG draw to your initiative.

My server is mentioned in my signature and I roam the borderlands, rarely do I visit eb.

I’m on blackgate and T1 is a totally different story my friend. Thieves there who roam melt faces.

Ragion.2831:

The stealth issue is something i really don’t understand. Burst, do over 10k, stealth so there is nothing the other non stealth class can react to, come back, do another 10k stealth…i mean it is absurd. That is why of all the defensive mechanics on thief i assumed stealth would be the one that would get limited.

I expected more emphasis to be put on active defense such as blind, ports and evades so its no longer a game of hide and seek but a test of reaction time and decision making. It did not cross my mind that Anet would be so blind enough to encourage unskillful gameplay like stealth spamming so this Acro nerf really came as a shock.

Theres nothing more painful to watch than 2 dp stealth reliant thieves fighting. or one of them fighting a class like necro. Necro is always the one that is forced to waste staff and wells cooldowns while thief is invisible just to avoid or mitigate the high damage attack advantage. Often times youll see a guardian waste shield of wrath to avoid the same thing.

Blinds can be countered by, condition transfer, condi conversion and fast cleanses like smite conditions . Evades can be countered by well timed skills, pressure and conditions but Stealth can only be countered by sheer luck or revealed that either not every class has access to or those who have access to it has to sacrifice something important.

A few weeks ago Devs were talking about putting emphasis on skillful gameplay like steal shortening trap cd and stuff happening when you meet certain conditions, i was silently rejoicing thinking we are going to see dynamic play at its finest, no more passive damage negation like endure pain, signet of stone and excessive access to stealth. Wow was I wrong.

THIS! Ever wonder why non detection is the primary concern of most modern military engagements? It provides a significant initiative advantage as I have stated. Good if you can counter AFTER they’ve made their move, but the way stealth and damage interact in the new system is absolutely ridiculous.

Thieves are the same everywhere. I have another Account on piken and thieves are no different and actually find the ones i face on my main account better sometimes. It is the same 3 builds that reign with variations in survive-ability choices through gear/rune/food. If they hit hard you will hit harder and catch them when they over extend. if you are running a burst build and allow a defensive battle you wont be the one winning. so instead of complaining how about you post your build? the thief build you are having trouble with? how you go about your fight? what do you know about the class to help you predict the flow of their moves? you are looking for advice/help aren’t you? so help us to help you

grab an engi
equip utility goggles
spec for tools choosing appropriate traits
spam aoe
use analzye
18 seconds of reveal on 20 seconds cooldown

too bad those mesmers got no more stun breaks since they burned their utilities, likely got no condi clear and will get mauled by the friendly zerg

engi respecs back on the run.

I do agree that double stealth duration is a bit lulzy

ThePaladin.2140:

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

OP seriously what are you talking about? I also play medi guard and melting/BBQing thieves is easier than ever.

their condi remove no longer cures immob so just land a scepter/hammer immob after withdraw and burst stealth wont clear it. even if you were so incompetent to not be able to pressure a thief have your smite condition/smiter’s boon, retal and shattered aegis do it for you.
sentinel with a lot of healing? what is the point if your counter pressure is zeros. clearly something is wrong with either your play-style, understanding of your tools or your build.

Might I ask what server do you represent and where do you roam? It might be we’re dealing with different playclass thieves.

babazhook.6805:

Nephrite.6954:

PU mesmers are farrrr more dangerous now compared to thieves. They’ve got bigger burst and better escape thanks to longer stealth duration. I’d worry about them more.

While I have taken every profession to 80 invcluding the mesmer, I would never consider myself a great Mesmer player. 80 percent of my time is on thief.

So last night I take my first look at my mesmer in the new system and rebuild him. That 100 percent to stealth duration caused my jaw to drop. I than set him up as a Condi PU mesmer build , which I had not played before, and went into WvW.

SO easy. Of all the classes I have tried in the new system this was the easiest and deadliest out of the gate. I was 1v4ing guys and not coming close to dying even as they got downed. Yeah they were poor players testing their own builds no doubt bt I am NOT good at mesmer either.

I than ran into other such mesmer builds and it was the same thing. 4 guys and more chasing them around and getting no where.

This right here is why stealth is a BIG draw to your initiative.

My server is mentioned in my signature and I roam the borderlands, rarely do I visit eb.

OP seriously what are you talking about? I also play medi guard and melting/BBQing thieves is easier than ever.

their condi remove no longer cures immob so just land a scepter/hammer immob after withdraw and burst stealth wont clear it. even if you were so incompetent to not be able to pressure a thief have your smite condition/smiter’s boon, retal and shattered aegis do it for you.
sentinel with a lot of healing? what is the point if your counter pressure is zeros. clearly something is wrong with either your play-style, understanding of your tools or your build.

my eyes….it burns!

Vizardlorde.8243:

The traits is so OP it should be removed from the game, lets riot til it is

bump

I wantz back or riot

it could work if you got crit paired also with plague sending though. not sure if it is worth the investment and trouble for LF only

this trait was fantastic with healing spring and sword/warhorn LB(GS) and quickdraw.

the cooldown should be matching the minimum pet swap cooldown not an outrageous 30 seconds.

I hope you liked the taste of your own/team’s poison then….or burns or bleeds and other things.

enjoy BBQing self

now if only there were a passive GM trait that would cast an auto Epidemic to go along with plague sending…that would be a thing of beauty

seriously though just give it a bit of time learn and adapt and wait for burning damage to get axe’ed.

Does an Official Necro Forum Guild actually exists in game? (EU/NA)

Truth be told I have seen the teef and mesmer forum guild members running around on my wvw server and LA quite often and got a bit jealous even though I practically have used those two classes far more often when running solo in wvw than my Necro which is what I main.

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

Here’s an idea.

Merge the effect of merciful intervention into judge’s intervention (the AOE heal)

Then create something truly useful.

to be honest I always thought that SA and WoP should have been merged since they showed off their changes last week and put in zeal to fit the theme better.

I think GH should return as Valor master so GS/H playstyle could afford to pick both. right now valor master traits are quite boring and weak.

you are right about their current placement though. as it stands now they should not see the light of day competing against 2 of the best guardian traits in their respective trait lines.

RIP dear Infusion of Shadows.
You will always be in me heart, trusty friend.

errrr….nvm xD

I am not sure but I heard it was an intended design decision…

RIP spirit ranger

traited engi turrets hand out boons like candy in comparison

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Well, the reddit thread caught the attention of UI dev Merryeli, sooooo fingers crossed

Thanks for passing the news!

I want my immobilize and fear removal back >.>

RIP Hide in shadows

Always nice to watch content made by you, Nemesis.

I’d go with nay if you fight stuff with a ton of cleave and aoe like engi medi guard etc since pets will be dying at a quicker rate than before

unless you use something tanky like drakes/spiders etc since pets will eat all the aoe.

I just know I miss my extra kitten handy range on the off hands.

I cant get used to its sight it just looks wrong to my eyes but the functionality is just awesome

I like ti and will take some time to get used to

played carrion and cele scepter/wh staff 66006 and I actually only killed people with their own condi

I did not like my personal pressure and defense with MOSTLY signets on bar but the transfer and then covering them with SoS and fear was a thing of glory against pesky engis but tanky condi rangers didnt care much. patient thieves just outplayed me much with improvisation making me waste dodges for the skull fear…

replaced CoCo with SoV which I never expected I’d ever do…had fun afterwards with condi guard BBQing everything including MM necros with traited justice.

I am still sad about plague/CoCo/Lich.

I like it better this way…much much better than watching shoutbow and cele engis with vamp eat damage and kite for days in fire field/throwing nades behind.
this is just the kind of fun I wanted to have….the anticipation and feeling of danger keeping you on your toes watching closely

Flumek.9043:

An honorable sepoku.

I think I cried a lil x.x

Terrorsquad.2349:

+1 hopefully this is a bug.

signets build looked actually good for 1vs1/2 but going in with full gimmicks bar dont mean much when you are focused and loaded up in a bigger fight since those signets wont generate LF to pop shroud or help juke the focus. maybe giving up a signet or two for s.walk/armor or worm might work better for us.

overall im sure it will work nicely for condimancers. if only terror and PoC were not in the same tier though…

Glad to see I was not the only one who was disappointed with that minor along with the master tier xD

now if only that minor slot was infusion of shadows instead or something a bit useful for oneself

Larynx.2453:

Gcostanza.2086:

Female Character, Librarian glasses, Scarf, check check check. How to thief

Forgot the blue flower hair. Bonus round: If they stream or make videos they have an anime character somewhere on their screen.

Not bad….

master tier is trash/worthless but I might need some of that SA to out-stealth mesmers with new and improved PU or fellow thieves. I also do not believe thief got a better condi remove elsewhere so…

hello again Flesh Golem! I never really did miss ya there ol blind and worthless smelly friend trying to pick up pebbles and flowers while your master gets ping ponged for sport! but there is nothing better left to pick

Zin.6170:

dominik.9721:

I’m necro and I find this offensive

(?_x) ??

Here…..take some stacks of vuln

This hurts me

the saddest nerf was retiring my infusion of shadows :’(

lol so that’s why we are not getting buffs xD

bringing back cloaked in shadows and/or infusion of shadows to master tier would make things more manageable

I never realized that garbage trait still existed in the notes…I cannot believe it survived it’s just so mind boggling…

meanwhile I’ll use my heal, utilities and elite I was provide to help kill myself to get into downstate faster. It gets even better when I trait for them!

it doesn’t matter how much it is improved as long as it competes with Path of Corruption and Terror with a functionality like that and no improvement to corruption skills to make slotting a whole bar of them WORTH it.

How disheartening indeed….of all classes its engineer nonetheless

there are no words i could use to describe my disappointment

WhiteCrow.5310:

The answer is, none of us won the balance changes. I’ll cite my source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am9gVQB8gss

lol I think I dieded laughing…

imma bury self with some virtual rocks in the coffin xD