Guild Wars 2

Vayne.8563:

Phadde.7362:

Zeldain.5710:

Vayne.8563:

You split the playerbase and end up taking some of the people doing the open world event into the smaller raid event (because you’re not going to have an 80 man raid) and then if ten or twenty groups do this, there might not EVER be enough people to do it in the open world…and that’s a problem, because Anet wants this game to be about the open world. They’ve always said that.

But of those guilds aren’t doing the open world content anyway because it sucks, why does it matter?

It’s very reasonable to argue that adding an instanced alternative would make the Open World version suffer. The instanced version shouldn’t be released at the same time, because of this.

Instead, wouldn’t it make sense to release the instanced version (in a seprate part of the Mists so that it makes sense) a week or so after the original one has ended?

I really like this idea. My only question will be this…

Will the people who want this, knowing an instance is coming if they just wait, not play the content in the world and therefore end up in the situation I outlined above.

This dividing of the playerbase thing isn’t just my concern, it’s a concern Anet themselves have expressed before…in more than one comment.

Illogical argument. If it’s instanced casuals have as much ability to queue up and pug it as anyone else, all the instancing would really do is kill 2 hour wait times.

Vayne.8563:

This game was designed so people could play different builds. Some types of players, rangers, necros, engies, have trouble getting invited to groups. But in open world content, they can play what they want and still participate.

And end up being the weak links that fail the event for everyone else…..yay!

It should have been instanced and started when 125 people were in the queue

Raine.1394:

What the trinity would provide is meaningful combat roles so we could stop talking about zerker gear. I mean, that’s really what all those threads address, the fact that there is only really one role and that is DPS.

The thing is, even the, the core mechanics of the game which people are highlighting as the issue now, would still need to be changed. The dominance of zerker gear is that healing stat scales terribly making any sort of healer role useless outside of passive regen from guardian or banner warrior. Toughness in PVE is largely useless since most boss mechanics (ie the biggest issue with the game) are almost entirely based around 1 shot kills. A healer can’t heal through 1 shot mechanics and toughness being redundant against 1 shot mechanics really only leaves players to use active defenses (dodge) since a lot of the time CC ones like blind don’t work on bosses (immune…) so the only efficient mechanic as DESIGNED by the game mechanics is to go DPS and knock them out ASAP. Without an overhaul to boss mechanics a trinity system wouldn’t achieve anything because current boss mechanics don’t allow for anything else.

Ignavia.7420:

Enlighten me if I understood it wrong, but didn’t they say they know that this is not the complete solution to the dominance of Berserker gear in PvE and that further changes are coming down the road?

Much like precursor scavenger hunt promised over a year ago….I’ll believe it when I see it, the track record for delivering in a timely fashion isn’t particularly high and has a high habit of changing direction entirely.

ThiBash.5634:

The ‘evil guys become permanent allies’ bit only works if they’ve done things that the hero can forgive. The amount of damage caused by Scarlet is too great for that to be believable. Unless she was controlled by outside forces, I’d not see that happen in any believable way.

It’s good that she’ll be Ceara again then It seems pretty telling that as soon as she went “insane” her identity changed from Ceara to Scarlet Briar…outside force there you go….she’ll be back to Ceara again by then end of the LS.

LittleLepton.8915:

Just curious, why is Faren not on this list?

Also, is it possible that if Kasmeer dies, there will be Faren, Marjory, Braham, Rox, New Asura, and, I guess , a Sylvari? I’d laugh if the sylvari is Trahearne, but I bet it will either be a reformed Scarlet or a brand new one.

Pretty much, It seems fairly obvious to me by the end of the S1 LS Scarlet will become Ceara again. Ceara became Scarlet due to an experiment went wrong and she went insane becoming Scarlet (why hello there Joker backstory). Given the back story invested into the character it really seems unlikely they’ll kill her off, someone at Anet is far too attached to her for that to happen, so not being able to kill her off it’s more probable she’s really been an anti-hero the whole time and the motivation behind her plan will be to stop the big bad coming (that she saw in the Eternal Alchemy experiment that mad her go insane), she’ll some how regain her sanity, be part of destiny’s edge 2.0 due to her knowledge of what’s to come but be the untrusted outsider (since conflict will be needed to be “interesting”….think of her as the new Eir, were everyone is narky at her because “SHE DUN KILLED SNAFF!”) which will all lead into LS S2.

The irony will be the bigger emphasis on berserker now than before since berserkers will be less capable of compensating the lack of dps from other less efficient pve stat sets. As a lot of people are already in berserker gear but could for the most part pug with people that were not optimised ok it’ll likely not be the case so much anymore so the LFG will likely be even more slanted to berserker since the reduce in dps means less ability to carry weaker stat sets from others….community is going to get worse :\

You can’t really balance them, not against other stats in pve. When you make stat options that are purely offensive while other sets are more balanced to middle of the road (off/def) the offensive load out is always going to win out in pve in an active combat system.

defensive stats aren’t going to be made more useful or desireable in pve unless boss mechanics are completely reworked from being one shot attacks to being lower damage faster sustained dps ones which just defeats the purpose of the dodge mechanic.

All that can be gathered is that the stat combinations available were poorly thought out, unless boss mechanics are completely over turned berserker is always going to be top dog since any skilled player can use active dodging to mitigate damage, reducing berseker damage will see an increase in aggressively slanted berserker requirements in LFG as a team will be less capable of carrying people that are using less useful stat combinations….the community is going to get worse.

All that’s going to happen is boss encounters will take a little longer and people will 100% not want the useless not max dps builds even more since the rest of the team won’t be able to carry them like they currently can.

I fully expect the LFG to be far more aggressive in it’s requirements once the change happens.

I’ve already stopped logging in after this proposed change. Honestly, after grinding out ascended gear, to have the stats change on you (when realistically the issue is the games mechanics being broken which is why the player base is so heavily skewed on certain stats…fix the mechanics, I realise you may need to have devs rather than stacking your employee base with content designers to get that change done but hey if you want to kill your game with bad decisions I can’t stop you) without having the chance to change the stats post forced change without having to regrind to get new stats….nah thanks, I’m done, the mistreatment of the player base because it’s easier to band-aid a situation with constant nerfs (when as said the issue is the game mechanics being borked) is getting a little tedious.

PattyCakeChamp.5268:

From my understanding its a 10% hit to crit dmg… not overall dmg. As for your topic, dunno.

The max dps builds are based around 100% crit chance so it would be a 10% damage reduction since every hit they did was critcal.

TP

I invest around 100g a day and get around a 10g – 20g a day return, I could easily invest more and get more of a return but I don’t even spend 1g daily so I don’t see it being worth my time since that 100g investment see’s me get whatever I want.

Having said that, with your current 14g, you’re better off doing the dailies (dungeon runs, world boss rare chests, most people will salvage/sell those but I just mystic forge them, over a two and a bit months I got howl, kudzu and rodgort…so sad on the last one…just from dumping the greens and yellows randomly into the forge, granted I was planning for dark matter for ascended gear) or aggressively investing (ie park yourself at the trading post for hours on end) until you have enough to just do the daily investment over 15 minutes each day.

JonPeters.5630:

We are trying to take steps to address some of the dominance of Berserker/DPS players. More info next week, I think.

Jon

After most have already gone through the time gated ascended crafting and have used their laurels…if it suddenly becomes ineffective rather than bringing other specs up you’ll likely see a mass exodus due to messing around your player base by wasted time gated materials.

The thing is, the proper channels aren’t working. There’s a certain mesmer player that most NA T1 servers will know of (he’s transferred through a few of them) who’s been a known cheat for over a year using the flying hack (will fly over towers/keeps walls with the super jump/fly hack and then portal in a zerg) and a year later he’s till in game, still doing it.

With how extremely public the hacks are (ie see youtube) and how long they persist in game, it’s extremely poor form from Anet to do next to nothing about it or react in a timely fashion.

Not buy mail, they’ll flag you and prob ban you for gold selling for sending that amount given others got banned (and had to contact support to get unbanned) for sending less than that.

it’s main value to me is that the crafting stations are right next to trading post npc and the mystic forge

LittleLepton.8915:

Illusions.3108:

i dont think so, maybe the dwarves will come back?

Tengu, Kodan, Skritt(?)

If anything it’ll be the tengu as they provide customisation (kodan don’t, beyond armor they’re all the same) and they can use the exist charr armor (tengu have the same body mesh as char, just different proportions same way human/norn/sylvari have the same body and armor meshes)

Aberrant.6749:

You still make 43s over mat cost so there is some profit there. Deldrimor steel ingots give you more though (59s)

http://www.gw2spidy.com/ is a wonderful place.

Which is pretty tiny compared with at release they were generating a couple gold profit since silk, linen, wool, were far far cheaper.

Gunsnroll.2657:

You have to choose the stats at first use, if I’m not wrong.

that is correct

Nabrok.9023:

How many times do they need to say that content traditionally associated with expansions will be released through LS updates before people notice?

Probably not until they actually do it, given that all permanent content last year from the LS was changing a world boss or fixing existing content (fractals) there’s really not a lot of supported actions to put much merit into the claim that LS updates will be were expansion like content will be because the LS for the vast majority is very limited content that disappears wiki is very unlike an expansion which adds permanent content.

it’s safer to not run defense, if two or three people in the team aren’t running DPS the zerkers will in most cases die and it will take forever for the boss to go down while the rest of the team are doing no damage. On the other hand if you have a full team of DPS who are optimised most dungeon bosses are dead in 10 to 20 seconds rather than up to 10 minutes.

lordkrall.7241:

Being able to select minor traits yourself would be a massive balancing nightmare though.

The trait lines are built around certain traits being “forced” after all.

While true it would be, but then you look at the existing classes and they aren’t balanced anyway. The whole trait and skill system need significant balancing at the current point anyway.

Flissy.4093:

I can’t see many people that were not interested at release being interested now. Not to mention, more silk is probably being salvaged now it’s worth something.

At release it was profitable to sell damask bolts, currently it’s not, a lot of people saw the profit and sold sold sold, now there’s no profit they are making it for their own use.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

2014 is going to be an amazing year for GW2 and the community!

Chris

Didn’t we hear that about 2013 and all we got was Scarlet did everything and an ascended gear grind.

kokiman.2364:

Protoavis.9107:

kokiman.2364:

RedShipRaider.9560:

Romo.3709:

Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…

Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.

You need 70 AR for scale 50?

to mitigate the damage

Wiki said you get 1% damage with 70 AR from agony. Shouldn’t 60 AR be enough?

In theory, in practice though it’s not practical between the agony every 10 seconds, depending on the boss you face at the end it can mean wiping hard and alot if it’s a boss that spews out a lot of aoe agony in a tiny floor space

kokiman.2364:

RedShipRaider.9560:

Romo.3709:

Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…

Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.

You need 70 AR for scale 50?

to mitigate the damage

Honestly I prefer the phone apps for it than the websites, there’s quite a few apps on android which just tracking world event bosses.

I dunno why any of you think a third party not at all affiliated with Anet would know anything….

The last time hype like this started up it was to reveal scarlet….and well that wasn’t better than an expansion.

Guardian.5142:

I LOVE and hate JPs. Instead of just reacting to another complaint thread, why don’t we just post our favorites!

The one (well two) near the dredge dungeon. The near vertical climb up the ice wall for the second jp there is pretty easy and quite pretty to look at from the top down.

TexZero.7910:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

TexZero.7910:

I think the generic excuse is….

Everyone heard what they wanted to hear and for the most part we (arenanet) have held true to our vision of the manifesto.

…It’s a shame that GW2 has literally become the Fable of its genre. Way over hyped with a plethora of empty promises.

Basically players like you have your own idea of what the Manifesto meant. So far, I haven’t seen any broken promises, since the Manifesto still holds true to today. And with GW2 being named game of the year in 2013, I’m hard pressed to see how you still think the way you do.

Really then explain the following quote from the manifesto

“We want combat to be meaningful. We don’t want you going oh i swung my sword, i swung my sword again.” -Colin

Explain how this has been held true in open world combat whatsoever ?

Is open world combat fun that’s completely relative to the player however what i can state is the so called depth of combat that’s “new and innovating” are nothing but words. The combat system fully disregards any play style that isn’t spam auto attack or spam your big burst combo. The combo fields and cross player interactions are utterly disappointing and do not bring anything to a fight.

There’s quite a few instances of quotes like the above that stand out, and that is exactly why we have the novel “CDI” threads. The community is not happy with the direction the game took from what had been described to us.

I question why you say that of open world considering most of the dungeons currently involve players just stacking on the boss and swinging their (great)swords

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Batdogi.7142:

I’ve played worse grindfests than GW2. That said, it has become more grindy than it started out.

/played WoW grinding reputation for a snow cat mount (that was before “the tardening”)
//Built a guild city in AOC…okay “assisted” in building a guild city in AOC. No human could grind that much singlehandedly.
///slashies are teh cool? right?

You could build CITIES??? Like, Guild Housing, only on a larger scale?

yes

cranked.3812:

Really though, I thought they accidently changed the grenth hood or something along those lines when they patched something else and then reverted it back when the mistake was realized?

They reverted it because someone (asura) complained. It’s like what they’ve done with the sylvari armors. The changes aren’t accidental, they just flip back and forth on cosmetics as soon as someone complains about them

VOLKON.1290:

Show me where the endless gear grind is in this game and I’ll consider considering that they may have shifted from the ideas presented in the manifesto. Yes, ascended gear itself can be a bit grindy (read: Time consuming) to get. However there is no endless treadmill of tossing away old gear for newer, more powerful gear which is exactly what the manifesto was referring to.

There is no treadmill, as promised. The fact that they’ve stuck to the manifesto in that regards is commendable.

They’ve also say they can’t promise it will remain BiS gear…which really just seems more like they are already in talks of either a level increase or a new tier at some point in the future.

Dalanor.5387:

$$$

/15 chars

Likely the case, the tone of things seemed to change after the change in major share holder for the parent company, a shareholder who’s well known for only caring about profit margins. Launch date followed soon after acquisition was finalised. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a required gem quota to fill each month.

Malediktus.9250:

There could be more gold sinks other than taxes. Stuff which currently cost gems like upgrade extractors, transmuation stones and transmuation splitters.
Anet just took the easy route to also justify why traders and speculators are good for the game.

which reduces the point of buying gems which isn’t going to happen….

geez people can’t take jokes :\

Humans got hungry and ate them all to extinction…it wouldn’t be the first time.

well now hackers know which accounts are worth trying to break in to

Orangensaft.7139:

actually i think picture 1 is underwater legendary aura and not what malchior said

The toon is dual wielding…you can’t do that under water.

It’s clearly holding the minstrel.

I think regen warrior, 3seconds regen (boosted up to 4 and a bit with tactics trait line and givers armor, not on weapons and trinkets though) which heals every seconds (so 4 ticks) . I think each banner can apply the regen seperately and they apply it every 3 seconds which if I’m correct would mean applying 4 seconds of regen every 3 seconds to 15 random players. Compare with Battle Presence which I believe hits a max of 5.

Also the regen amount for banner is 390 base vs 315 base

Haralin.1473:

heavy armor classes are faster than leather classes in the world of tyria

Speedy Kits and Rocket Boots

To be fair, some of the heavy armor in game (ie gladiator) would weigh less than most of the leather and light armor (male…female light armor is usually dental floss) in game.

Tasslehoff.5738:

Some ppl like new daily, some not, who cares we want to know what Anet say about it. Stay or change or somethink we want to communicate with devs..

What they say about it…well they implemented it, probably means they’re for it unless the new dailies randomly came up and no one on their end knows how, but if that were the case there’s bigger issues.

solrik.6028:

I don’t really care about achievements so 95% of the ones I have came from not trying to get them.

I have around 600 hours playtime and I have never seen anyone discriminating solely because of low AP. Neither have I seen someone require other to be above a certain AP and neither have I seen anyone ever mention that High AP = High Skill so I have no idea where you got that from.

watch the LFG tool and dungeons for awhile, it does crop up, it’s not super common but I see it at least once a day.

DarkSpirit.7046:

The demand for silk scraps, when it reaches a stable level, would be tied more to how worth while it is to craft bolt of damask. The crafting profit of bolt damask was very high when the patch first started but it has come down significantly since then even though it is still profitable to craft.

This.

In a few months (set of armor takes around a month, a lot of these people who sell damask are likely to get ascended when profits dry up, with the profit not really being worth it to sell damask currently they are likely starting on their first set so likely to remain around current market value for the next month or two depending on any fluctuations) will start to decrease. I imagine it’ll eventually get down to 5g(ish) per bolt of damask. I’d say silk will likely remain around the current price give or take for the next three months.1

Nothing unusual about it really, there was more inflow of the item during the event than now, it’s likely a 1 time release item (like most other back skins) and will increase in value over time, as the price of the item is increasing currently it’s unlikely the buy orders are going to be filled so that gold sitting there in the buy order is now useless.

I’ve done very similar with other limited release items, once the event is over it’s not like more supply is coming in to fill those buy orders.

a t s e.9614:

“Ascended gear drops” , the chances are even lower than a pre. I think crafting a superior tier of gear shouldn’t be forced. It’s not like it was a legendary. I’d rather buy from TP directly 200g\piece, wouldn’t be too bad.

It’s really not lower than a pre

it’s just they come from certain activities (fractals, wvw, etc)

I don’t wvw much or fractal much but when fractal weekly happened I got an ascended weapon chest, when wvw season 1 ended the liquid karma leveled me up and the bonus chest was an ascended weapon chest, running guild rush and the bonus chest was an ascended accessory….considering apart from doing 2 or 3 dungeons a day, world bosses and whatever the daily or LS achieves are my toon is parked in from of the TP they really don’t seem to be nearly as rare drops as people make out. Granted none of the stats dropped were particularly useful to me.

Meanwhile the only pre’s I’ve had are from the Mystic Forge.

digiowl.9620:

The “less danger at range” argument may have held up in PVE, if the game had a functional way to manipulate aggro (aka tank). Without it, a ranged attacker may well find himself in melee with a enemy pretty quickly. That is, unless he wants to do the whole Benny Hill routine around the room…

No one is meant to remain stationery in combat, including ranged players, if they were the skills would root them while attacking.

Orion Templar.4589:

Good points and thoughtful feedback. I respectfully disagree though, simply from the perspective that to the publishers, this is a missed sale opportunity.

If they kept the Mistfire Wolf fully exclusive to DDE pre-orders only, what would that gain them? Possibly a small amount of community goodwill from a static group of players that bought the DDE.

Having it available to buy at a very high price bundled with other items gains them what? A small amount of account holders willing to spend the money to upgrade.

If they offered the Mistfire Wolf skill separately for a lower price what would that gain them? Potentially a much higher number of unit sales resulting in increased revenue and pleased players.

If I were them I’d go for the third scenario.

You’re making assumptions without anything to back up the assumptions. It’s impossible to determine from our lack of available information if those interested in the mistwolf skill are unwilling to pay for the upgrade would in anyway outnumber those who are willing.

Adding to that, the mistwolf skill is terrible, it’s literally a contender for most useless elite that if anyone were spending cash on it they’d more than likely feel ripped off at any price.

Yargesh.4965:

lordkrall.7241:

Just a small correction.
They never actually confirmed anything about Ascended being the last tier.
They only said that there will be no new tier added THIS year.

I for one don’t think they will add more, but lets at least be clear on what they actually said.

I remember Colin also saying he personally would not like to see another tier. Does not mean there would not be one, he could leave or the company could decide it was worthwhile. I don’t see the need and hope it is not added. I don’t see the need for level increase either but that I think would be years away if at all.

Colin also has said he see’s the level cap being raised so who knows