If there is no connection, then ArenaNet certainly wants to make it seem like there is one. And you can’t say there isn’t one because Elder Dragons weren’t a thing during Prophecies, for why I point to Glint.
I do think Prophecies intended for something different. She was hiding from something yes but she was, as far as we knew, the last of living dragons. There were of course plenty of theories as to who or what was hunting her. The Elder Dragons didn’t become a thing until they were shoehorned in EoTN as a segway to GW2. For example, we’ve already come to the conclusion that the Bloodstones were changed somewhat to promote GW2 lore. Based on how lousy EoTN was, I do think EDs didn’t become a concept until they scrapped GW: Utopia and decided they wanted a legitimate sequel.
Well given Tequatl and Brightghast, in Arah you see plenty of these Dragon Champions flying around assaulting the air ships. They’re less difficult of course being that it’s a story mission limited to a small group of people. Names given to the former(s) are just nicknames for specific Champions that siege two specific areas.
And quite frankly, you were the only commander in this whole story who has half a brain.
In regards to Rytlock I could just as much say that his feud with Logan early on was pretty stupid. All because Logan chose to go back and he held Logan accountable even though Eir was not only leading of the group but Snaff didn’t die because of Logan – Logan didn’t put Snaff in harms way and then laugh before running off. That’s not to say Logan was any less selfish, he had his issues too but it all came across as a high school drama.
Though I did like how he spoke to Rox and then to you the player. I think he’s sensible when he wants to be.
Personally, pun intended, the Personal Story has been very lack luster since the start. I think they tried to hard to fix what wasn’t broken and in doing so really under-delivered on their promises. That being said, yes the Living World has improved since half way through Season 1 but while they’ve made some minor mistakes that I myself aren’t too offended by, there’s still this underlying sense of the lack of immersion. I just don’t feel it, it feels forced.
And while I could suggest ideas, probably repeat things I had stated in the past, it would be a huge undertaking to tackle any one of those suggestions.
I also find it a stretch that the Searing Cauldron was tapping into Kralkatorrik’s energy and merely look at the damage of the crystals to be coincidence. Remember, back when Prophecies was out there wasn’t any indication of Elder Dragons – this didn’t become a thing until EoTN and they wanted a segway into GW2.
Lore progression, at last.
Persistence. That would be neat but a HUGE undertaking. Not impossible but I’m of the opinion it would be unlikely. As cool as that would be.
1. Margonites
They look and sound very interesting even though I don’t know if their wings will be used a lot, if at all, among issues.
They don’t exist as far as can be told. Margonites were just humans that became corrupted due to their loyalty towards Abaddon, as he was like their North Star so to speak. As a result they were corrupted when he went evil and became sterile.
Unless if you’re talking about the Largos… I originally thought maybe the Largos were Margonites but I’ve long since dropped that theory since the race themselves were just sea-faring humans.
By all accounts and likelyhood, if Anet wanted to go through with what how they hinted everything in the buildup instead of adding more and more new characters and content nobody will remember; Mordremoth’s champion would be Faolain.
Faolain and Caithe discovered Mordremoth’s corruption. Caithe resisted it through will, Faolain gave into it for power. She went bonkers, and started spreading it through the Nightmare Court, this being what Scarlet knew and blackmailed Caithe with assumedly through the Aetherblade path/section of Twilight Arbor.
Faolain is still alive, and has merely retreated from the Arbor. She’ll return, probably further insane.Of course this may have already taken a 180 degree turn for “nah, man, original characters”, but.
I don’t believe the nightmare is connected to Mordremoth. Therefore, I don’t believe that Faolain will be his champion. To me the nightmare is part of the dream and that the nightmare court are still protected by it.
I don’t think Faolain is his champion either but I do think Mord is the root (pun intended) cause of the Nightmare. Considering the dialog centered around Omadd and Scarlet, Omadd said whatever she encountered in his machine was something she brought in with her. I believe that is a significant hint, whether the Pale Tree is a minion of Mord or not – I do think he’s had some influence in conjuring the Nightmare; however, being that his existence has been kept so heavily secret, his role in the Nightmare has been minuscule.
Using an analogy I used weeks back, it’s like Mord is holding the pot that is the Dream but not having his hands inside of it. The Dream acting like a field of protection so he can’t get as directly involved.
I actually really liked Straights of Devastation for its linking dynamic events.
- Nobody talks about Cantha’s state today, not even the Zephyrites which were probably there. 100 years and not a single sign even from the other side.
False. The Zephyrites did state they have done trading with Canthans. The state of the world at Guild Wars 2’s launch even stated that Cantha was prospering but ties between Tyria and Cantha were severed because of Zhaitan’s rise creating a road- block.
- The art district of Divnitiy’s Reach is destroyed without explanation. The architecture of said district was canthan design. (Divnity’s Reach – 6 districts – 6 human origins but that needs to get determined)
The Hole? That doesn’t really have a connection with the Continent. With the sound of something lurking in the sewers, I always felt it was signs of the Destroyers creating sink holes in their wake – it was a reason why I felt Prim would be next and not Mord… that is until Scarlet came around.
- The solid ocean maybe belongs to it. There are at least some matching informations. see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/lore/lore/Jade-Maw-Fractal-Lore/first#post4258281
Which doesn’t mean much. Cantha was pleagued by a lot of evils and still survived, Tyria copes while EDs ravage the place. As far as we know the Empire has flourished well enough. The Jade Maw Factral however is best explained by how the Fractals work, the Asura were literally trying to create alternate dimensions and what these did was draw from existing content, what we see in that Fractal of course is not the reality of Cantha. The Jade Sea became a lake/ocean since the Jade began to thaw after Shiro’s defeat; his curse was lifted.
I’m not seeing a correlation. Yes there was a beast(s) in the Jade Sea frozen but I hardly consider that serious enough to wipe out all of canthan civilization. The lack of details of what DSD is up to can also be just as well explained that its interests lie elsewhere.
Those are just indications, but the world seems to be closer connected like we think. If Cantha is fine or has some common problems, why doesn’t anyone tell? There are airships, creatures with huge knowledge (Zommoros is surely not the only one) and even humans that look canthan and no one even bothered to get contact?
Firstly, contact was already slim due to Emperor Usuku’s xenophobia so Zhaitan rising up and stranding the Xunlai while also separating Tyria from Cantha was the nail in the coffin. With our interests in the Elder Dragons, it’s safe to say resources set for exploring are preoccupied with the effort to war with the Elder Dragons and while Zhaitan is dead, the Risen still exist.
We just can’t go there because they chose to focus on Living World instead of expansions. I would like to think when we go visit Cantha it would be to take many Tengu to their desired homeland while usurping the tyrannical ruler but I don’t expect to see anything of Cantha until we finish off Primordus at least (thus freeing up the Tengu since they have been fighting the Destroyers in the Dominion of Winds).
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I’m still waiting to see a Kodan monk. Give them staff-fighting and take from City of Hero’s Eye of The Storm, give it to the staff as it’s number 2.
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- There are indications that Cantha is destroyed (partially or full).
According to what source? Ships have sailed, ran into Zhaitan’s forces, and washed ashore on the Tyrian coast but all other mentions of Cantha imply it has prospered with much success.
It’s possible they could willing become corrupted while remaining connected to the dream and the pale tree but right now we don’t enough really.
I find it strongly unlikely, not this soon anyways. I think the NC would be operating parallel with Mord’s intentions without realizing it assuming he is behind the Nightmare. Although I am curious to see what the NC has been up to since Mord awoke and what their take on him is.
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You, myself, and just about everybody else.
My take on the Sylvari as dragon minions theory is that it only made sense if the Pale Tree was intended as a sleeper cell but was raised in such a way that it can’t be controlled by Mordremoth any more.
I’d think it no different than the Keepers in Mass Effect. Through the seed being found and nutured outside of Mord’s plans, the tree imprinted on Ventari which changed its whole persona. People often underestimate parenting skills, you can teach a pit bull to be graciously loving and gentle.
you can’t give the grove’s avatar a get out of jail free card.. the hierarchy of all other playable races is susceptible to damage.. if it can’t be done without conflicting player character creation, then it’s substandard game lore..
This is because Queen Jennah, Knut Whitebear, Smodur the unflinching, and the Arcane council ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR BABIES TO BE MADE.
The Pale tree, KINDA freaking is for the Sylvari race.
basically, it’d cause the same amount of work in a sense as curing the foefire would.
Unless the death of the Pale Tree somehow acts as a biological trigger for the Sylvari and enables them to reproduce.
That’d be pretty dumb. I’d expect a new seed get planted and watching it gradually grow during the downtime before Season 3 if the Pale Tree was to be eliminated.
If so, you must be colorblind – no offense in the statement but there is an obvious color change from the rest of Orr and I could only see a colorblind person not being able to tell.
I see it, I just don’t feel there’s any specific significance post-rise. Maybe when Orr was first established, the ground in ML was always blue-ish and being submerged for so long slowly weathered it to a pale-green dull blue. So I don’t take much from aesthetics other than the artistic quality of it.
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Question: Why has Rytlock failed?
Answer: Because the plot said so.
It’s really a no brainer.
It’s like I always say, “Were Nedd smart to begin with, Game of Thrones would be a pointless story.”
Those would have to be some big caves….
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/6/68/Ruins_of_Orr_map.jpg
So gloomy stormclouds caused that dispersing pattern? The one that fans out right from the spot where Zhaitan was sitting?
I don’t see a pattern at all. You’re looking at aesthetics based on the current lighting of the map. Wouldn’t take too much from it personally.
I’m expecting the NC to get involved sometime. We know Scarlet brokered a deal with them so she could do her research in their territory but we never found out what it was the NC looked to gain from their brief allegiance.
Alright, don’t get me wrong. I wouldn’t have a problem with them changing the start of the game for new players and discarding the personal story entirely if I thought Areanet would go through the effort to do so. Maybe they will one of these days, but that would require tons of work and I don’t think such a dramatic change will happen in a living story update. Maybe if they ever made a proper expansion.
I think it would be kind of cool actually. See the first few chapters for Charr get changed where ghosts aren’t a problem (new dynamic events set in place) and then have their prologue changed to reflect the deed while giving new objectives. This would give existing Charr something to brag about, a trophy of sorts. They could even create some event so existing Charr passed that story could also participate in the new prologue.
That’d be pretty cool. It all boils down to level of interest and the amount of effort put into it.
Clouds exist over all of Orr, actually, and has been consistently present since the Cataclysm – as well as a deathly chill in the air, etc. that’s talked about in both Sea of Sorrows and in Orr itself.
Clouds exist all over the planet. I’m referring to storm clouds, they’re dark and they give a gloomy appearance, which means there isn’t some kind of unique property but merely weather altering the look of the landscape.
Shine some light and I guarantee Malachor’s leap would have the same appearance.
IIR, It has been destroyed when Scarlet attacked LA, no ?
No, it most definitely was not. When vines first started appearing in Brisban people, such as myself, were running around looking to other zones for where the vines were going. Fort Marriner at the start of Episode 1 was very much still intact.
Nice find, I didn’t even look at the close at it! Can this be a thing, ANet? Like for real!
I know I’m not the first one who made the suggestion as I’m sure plenty of others have but the responses were all the same rhetorical comments of how armor types are built so differently that they wouldn’t mesh well. All armors need is a fix with those that don’t but I would love to wear light armors on my heavies or heavies on my light while still getting the value of my respected weight class. TOR had done this with armorings when they introduced Adaptable Armor Sets, surely with enough time ANet could do it here.
I’d love to ask what the Forgotten learned but oh… Glint killed them after the ritual.
Oh wow, I thought I knew Glint’s story but that’s a part I’ve never heard before. Is that in the book ?
“I can hear the thoughts of creatures. I am an oracle. I heard their plots against my master, stopped them before they reached him, killed them in their tracks. But I also felt their agony, their loss….”
priory NPC’s say that we use rituals in magic because we don’t have a complete grasp of the natural laws of magic. So it is possible for the effects of the ritual to be completed somewhere else without the actual ritual.
Possible but the likelihood is immensely unlikely.
How? That would be the perfect answer. It would entail that there isn’t any one specific way to combat corruption. We know based on what the Pale Tree said, that strong will power can do it as well and considering Champions are believed to have some level of conscience; it’s not unlikely in the least.
Beings can imprint on objects and Ventari didn’t just inscribe words in stone to leave it behind. No, he stuck around – he stuck around for so long that either the Pale Tree dragged his spirit into The Dream or created a near perfect copy of him. By that logic, it is entirely likely that intervention plays a huge role nurturing the Tree.
I’d love to ask what the Forgotten learned but oh… Glint killed them after the ritual.
Stone Summit Dragon confirmed, there’s our seventh.
The simple answer is geography. In Malachor’s Leap there’re perpetual clouds over head.
As someone in love with sylvari and having one as a main I have always hated the theory about the Pale Tree being connected to an Elder Dragon, unless there would somehow be a good elder dragon… but yeah.
Well good and bad are subjective. The Dragons just have motives. You don’t call a wolf evil because you put yourself in front of its food while it’s starving, that’s just not how nature works. That being said, if the theory were true it’s simply due to intervention just as the Forgotten approached Glint, a seed was found and taken by Ronan and Ventari went on further to nurture the tree.
It’s entirely possible.
Concept art straight from the wiki.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/2/26/Dragon_15_concept_art.jpg
Anyone noticed the that the mouth plant flower(Mordem Thraser maw) appears right in the location where Omadd’s machine is?
Is it? I personally focused more on the point that where ever the Mordem Trasher rose up there was also a waypoint.
Nah he didn’t rise up where Omadd’s machine is. That’s the new area we’ll be going to. You can check it out the new area by doing a little jumping puzzle.
That is most definitely Omadd’s machine.
I know this probably doesn’t have any link and probably any lore guru here would hate me for this but…anyone notice how the trailer refers to the ancient evil from the west (Mordy) as the Shadow of the Dragon which is coincidentally also the name of the dragon in the Sylvari tutorial?
I think that raises a good question. Was the Shadow that Caithe believed to be representation of Zhaitan nothing more than mistaken identity? Having said time and time again, I believed the whole roots and brush wasn’t merely how the Sylvari saw life while in the Dream but instead a hint of some underlying evil that even the most seasoned Sylvari misinterpreted to be Zhaitan. We’re being lead to believe the Pale Tree had been keeping secrets from her people to prevent Mordremoth’s corruption and what better way to prevent your children from falling into madness than to keep them safe and sound.
Watching it again does make me wonder though. What if that’s the Nightmare Court using Mordremoth’s advances to their benefit to assault the Pale Tree? We know Scarlet struck a deal with the NC but their terms were never revealed even in the new path for Twilight Arbor.
anyone notice that that plant monster spawns right at Omadd’s machine? Apparently Taimi’s work has some effect, not to sure I’m all psyched at the outcome though
I wasn’t expecting the solution to work out anyways. She does look terrified though.
It’s not about who is strongest but rather a matter of opportunity. Right now Mord is just being very active with little prep time. He awakens in a matter of months if not weeks (I don’t believe it was established that a year had passed since Scarlet’s demise) and suddenly he’s got Mordrem and roots as thick as houses seeping through the Earth all in search of stuff.
Every other Dragon thus far, that we have seen, refrained from crossing into one another’s territory. That doesn’t mean they can’t but it means they each have their own habitat in which they operate within. Zhaitan tried to break that mold but failed and Jormag didn’t even complete it’s first step before his forces were pushed back; preventing him from heading to LA.
Mordremoth on the other hand is using the earth. This doesn’t mean the mordrem haven’t encountered destroyers but we haven’t received any details of the event taking place either. I assume Primordus is simply lower under ground and the destroyers are using the old catacombs, once dredge and asura caverns alike, to travel and wreak havoc – giving both forces quite a bit of room to pass by one another without altercation.
We only see a few descendants and gravestones. Resurrection magic at some point ceased to exist in-lore, and has been mostly forgotten about. People still died of old age even with resurrection magic, btw, that stuff only resurrected folks who died of swords and whatnot (so it seemed). And waypoints don’t resurrect, PCs in GW2 never die – hence why the states are called “downed” and “defeated” not “dead”. You’re merely knocked unconscious every time.
I don’t think it ever ceased to exist, merely that the spells to do so were forgotton/lost or simply it became harder to do, eventually getting near impossible to do without lots of rituals and all.
Probably around the same time the UW ‘sealed off’ if I had to guess. Same thing that blocked humanity from getting into the underworld made it harder for spirits to come back out and get into their bodies again?
Of course, res magic doesn’t do a thing concerning old age. You’d res them from old age cause of death… so they could live a tiny bit longer and die of old age again <_<
The resurrection shrines were Grenth’s doing. Since Nightfall set the narrative that the Gods were having less interest in the world of Tyria, I figured these Shrines would become useless. Hence, we have the downed-states in GW2 and the player character is never “canon-logically” dead.
I think Oola is alive too, even if she’s not by herself or has shown up.
She’s dead. But you can see a computer of her in Metrica Providence.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Oola
Then people would just turn around and complain that Season updates are too short for how much time we have to wait between large updates.
The Tengu aren’t likely to happen and shouldn’t be until they start setting a narrative to go back to Cantha.
They’re supposed to be hard.
They’re supposed to be a challenge.
It’s not even that challenging either though. You just look up guides, do the jumping puzzles, explore, kill. Most of it is mindless work, set up objectives and knock em down.
The best solution for people who think it’s “hard” is to get out there and start doing stuff. Otherwise, sitting around solves nothing – the achievements don’t achieve themselves.
Breakdown of the video:
36 seconds of NPCs reacting to things off screen. They literally stand in place looking left, right, and over their shoulder. :\
Why is that an unsettling thing? It’s meant to build suspense, an ominous presence.
Also looks like a new area to Dry Top is being added. Look at those piles of sand. I forget who uploaded the video during Episode 2 when they broke out of the latest map addition and found new areas but some of those spots (while shot from different angles) are present.
I think what’s annoying about the summit is it’s made to sound like some monsterous task when the personal story basically has us unite the races of Tyria to fight Zhaitan. What’s going on is the same problem that plagued Mass Effect, it’s been done before but the races make it sound like it’s a new concept.
Honestly, I see it being more practical to introduce in Season 3 or whenever Primordus becomes a threat. They would be a perfect race to lead into Cantha, with their desire to retake the prestigious lands.
My opinion is already bias because I don’t like the flower. :P
I think people need to take a moment however and think about the long run when we’re episodes 9-10 or into Season 3. People will be able to go back into Season 2 from Episode 3 and on to build the back item quite quickly. We’re time gated due to release schedule but come the next season, players visiting these episodes wont have this problem.
Good, I like my veggies fried… sometimes.
Rytlock: “It all hinges on Sohothin, my sword. There were originally two of them — Sohothin and another called Magdaer. They were given to the Ascalonians as protection against invasion.”
“Magdaer is a legendary sword of Orrian origin, dating back to a time when the Gods of Tyria walked among the humans and lived in the City of Arah. At some point, Magdaer and its sister, Sohothin, were given as gifts to the Ascalonian royal line to ensure continued peace.”
I agree with your points regarding the Crown. Though I thought Rytlock’s comments about Sohothin were a reasonable summary for players who might not know previously. I don’t think there’s a contradiction, ensuring peace vs defense against invasion is pretty similar.
I was surprised that there was no mention of Eir still having the fragments of Magdaer though.
Edit: Regarding the crown, the only explanation I can think of is if Ember Doomforge had returned to the vault and then deliberately tried to hide the crown for some reason.
Being devil’s advocate for a moment, the Charr are likely under the impression that the sister swords were created for specifically malicious purposes and don’t know the exact history. After all, they spent so much time just destroying anything human in Ascalon. Remember, these are words coming from a Charr – the race in which was robbed. That’s a decent reason to be sour over, making the events subjective based on its effects to an audience.
While the Charr see it as weapons of mass destruction, I’d hazard a guess that someone like Logan would just as easily say it was purely Adelbern’s doing as he took the final leap to insanity.
she doesn’t say that line to anyone but the sylvari. if she did, it flew right over me.
she stands between the sylvari and mordremoth. it’s kinda implied that she immunizes against all dragons period, but i think that might have been sloppy writing. i don’t know. that scene was in dire need of a rewrite.
I don’t think it implies that at all. She seems pretty direct when she tries to explain the similarities between Mord’s corruption on sylvari and how Zhaitan’s corruption affected the dead. While yes it’s sloppy, I think it was more so direct that because of their fauna-like nature, the Sylvari are incredibly susceptible where as we haven’t gotten any detailed accounts of non-sylvari being corrupted by Mord.
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I think a perma ban is a little extreme and would be ok with temp banning these people but at the same time only like half of all are receiving the treatment. Just punish them all.
It’s for crafting your back piece. Check out: Dulfy
Depends on what class you are and what happens you’re using. As a warrior, I use the rifle and just range him – let the others try to melee. That being said, using greatswords can work if you time your dodge and whirling strikes appropriately.
Kraggy?
If you’re referring to Kralkatorrik, there are no G’s in his name, and he’s in the Crystal desert, which is a completely different direction.
That and the two priory members say they had a magical artifact of some sort, their dolyak was specifically targeted and wounded from the vines in Iron Marches.
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