Guild Wars 2

So, the second installment of SAB is coming to a close. What was a April fools joke that became a hit, well….didn’t live up to the expectations that well a second time around.

First off, when SAB came out, it seemed like a very good and fun joke. We had a fake commercial to watch, the browser game, and SAB itself. It really seemed like they were going all out with this prank. And it was fun.

Now, with the Back to School, that’s all it was. Just ’here’s SAB! More levels! Umm…bye!" And we were left with it. No commercial (seriously missed the chance there), no browser game to go along, nothing. Really, the PR for it this time was just, gone.

But, now on to the mode itself. First, the good.

Tribulation mode was a good start. Now it feels like an oldie game. You got easy, normal, and hard modes to choose from. Fine by me and all thats needed.

Weapon skins – Yes, good. I love the SAB pistol, now that is fun. And getting different colors for doing different modes? Also a plus. Now, I take it armor is next…? wink wink

Sadly, That’s all I can think of that I liked. I was really disappointed in this installment. It didn’t feel like the same fun I was having before.

Level length – TOO LONG. Holy crap. I know the first levels were short, and level two was to be longer. But this…with so much jumping added, was just TOO LONG. It was just more tedious than fun.

Achievements – Ok, I got my title, yes, but mostly taking the cheap and easy ones to get. I didn’t want to, but when I started working towards the collecting all baubles, I threw up my hands and said screw it. I looked at Dulfy’s video guide, and with that even sped up, it took 45 MINUTES! If I had followed that guide, in normal time, what? An hour? 2? 3? I did w2-2 achieve, and that even pushed me to the edge. Just…no. This was horrible. I wanted to cry. The levels were WAY to long to make this achievement even worth it.

Backtracking – Okay Anet. Even in old 8-bit games, back tracking WAS. NOT. FUN! I mean, running around for all the baubles, especially in w2-2, was a pain. Go near the end, but don’t touch one gate, if you do, you are screwed from getting your achieve. Now, go ALLLLLL the way back to the shortcut eagle (gods help you if didn’t choose infantile mode). Make that jump to him, cause if you don’t, welp, back to the most recent checkpoint and run ALLLL the way again!

Bauble Bauble nerf – So, basically running alts through SAB is useless now. I know, people abused it before with creating a new character each time to keep getting baubles, but so what? They were just used for skins! Who cares?! Let people farm it for their characters!

Collecting baubles for items – Basically, want baubles for the new stuff in w2? Farm w1! Cause there are barely any of those things in w2 to even help you acquire the items!

The good and bad – The SAB lobby. It was a good idea, but turned sour when you realize you are the only one in the lobby after the first week, cause everyone else either quit or gave up on the content.

To sum it up. Once I got my title, I just quit SAB. It wasn’t fun anymore. It was a pain. Not Battletoads pain, but a pain.

Fixes:
w3 needs to have shorter than w2, but a bit longer than w1. I understand that the levels are to get longer, but this was too much.

Undo the bauble bauble chest account bound. Its not needed. The requirements already are high enough with needing fifty and gold. Nothing more.

NO MORE MASSIVE BACKTRACKING!

If you aren’t going to add enough baubles to really pay for the newer items, then why the huge increases in cost? Don’t raise the prices so much if there are like only 13 baubles in a zone.

I’ll come back to SAB when installment three is here, but if its worse than this update, I won’t even care for the achievement.

I came to the sudden realization today that the living story is just a rehash of the personal story.
A sylvary having influence over different factions? Check.
Uniting the factions and leading them? Check.
We all hate the sylvari for various reasons? Check.

Only difference will be one faction works for a dragon, the other doesnt.

No one mentioned the wallet?

The living story started with flame and frost, which were the Fire Legion and the mole people teaming up. Then we have the aetherblade pirate which seem to be inquest and pirates(?)(I assume seperatists) joining forces. Next, we have the watchnights (reprogramming jenna’s bots) and controlling the steam creatures. Next, something has gotten into teq making him smarter and deadlier.

Which brings us up to the next patch, the twilight council. So, either they’ve teamed up with someone else (sons of svanir?) or are going it alone.

And anet has said that Scarlet has her motives, which I assume someone is giving her commands.

So, all the big bad factions are being brought together by Scarlet, who is being commanded by someone else. I predict that finally(!) we are either getting another dragon appearing, or crystal desert is opening up.

knives.6345:

MikaHR.1978:

knives.6345:

MikaHR.1978:

Zanthrax.6538:

Im so shocked at how many people are so ill informed, assuming that they will add more tiers of gear the grind is insane they are caving to the 1%‘ers aka hardcore players….when they don’t realise everything they are saying is false and to be brutally honest those vocal forum complainers are the 1%’ers -_-

You are shocked at how you yourself are so ill informed

READ MY SIG

And the best they told was “we HOPE we wont add new tier” rofl

Anyway, you dont even need new tier for endless gear grind, they already have boatload of grind in this tier, dont worry, youll et new gear to grind every few months.

I read it as “should have” not “would have” so…

Also, I’m not seeing there anything that implies BiS gear – it only implies that at 80, you “should” already be competitive with others – which you are. Assuming you have rares.

Really?

Read it AGAIN rofl, seems it didnt sit well, hey read it as many times as you need to sink in.

K. I’ll copy-paste.

Colin Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”

Everyone, including casual- no need to explain what this means.
by level 80 should have – again, “should” not “would”
best statistical loot – does not imply Best-in-stats-gear
We want – does not mean “we will”
Equal in power base – tell me how much difference it is to have ascended over exotic?

I was still in greens, blues, and a rare or two when i first hit 80, not full exotics! Colin lied!

champ.7021:

Serophous.9085:

as with weapons, legendary armor will have same stats as ascended. and most likely same function as legendary weapons atm
Hopefully Lgendary Gear will be like the Obsidian Armor in GW; New look same stats as Ascended gear just harder to get the Mats for and to create.

You mean the refining of the mats will be harder in terms of the patience required not to just throw your keyboard out the window and shout “why do i have to wait another day to do this again!!!!”

no idea, that is going to depend on how precursors are going to be crafted first.

Galphar.3901:

The biggest complaint those of us that are GW vets have is that the new armor not only has a new LOOK but also better STATS. When Anet released Factions the new armor didn’t have any better stats than the armor we could get in Prophecies, it just required different materials for the new look. The “top” armor in GW all the way through EotN was Obsidian armor. The reason for this was not because if better stats but because it was the hardest to make. You had to farm UW for Ectos and then you had to run FoW to go to the place to craft it. As said before, I never got any Obsidian Armor on any of my Toons and I played all the way through Eotn.

as with weapons, legendary armor will have same stats as ascended. and most likely same function as legendary weapons atm
Hopefully Lgendary Gear will be like the Obsidian Armor in GW; New look same stats as Ascended gear just harder to get the Mats for and to create.

apparently, if a dev says something will happen. It must happen. If it does not, it is a broken promise and they must be flamed…

now if only this worked in the real world….

cesmode.4257:

I agree and disagree with the OP.

He does sound like he is one of those “please hand me everything for free, no work required”..entitelements, etc.

But at the same time, the whole purpose of the thread is to illustrate the fact that yet another customer fell to the bait and switch. He bought Colin J’s line of “At max level we want everyone to be on equal footing”(not quoted verbatim) and is now upset. I totally hear his point.

I just want to know, what content is he unable to do because he doesnt have ascended gear?

Mastruq.2463:

Serophous.9085:

Chuo.4238:

Think I’m done with GW2 for 2013, to be honest. I’ve missed half the LS due to being sent overseas, came back to find a tier gear grind that’s out of this world, and a Super Adventure Box, the one update that was actually fun, has been turned into a painful grind fest that’s pay-to-win.

I have things I can hope for, but I don’t really see anything advertised that I’m looking forward to. This just isn’t the same game I bought. It’s gotten out of control.

Its only a grind if you want it NOW. Im up to four already and i havent been grinding.

Your definition of pay to win is wrong.

He came back from a half year break, dont you think if he doesnt have a ton of mats stashed or is sitting on a pile of golf, that Ascended weapons seem like a big hurdle?

That aside, I disagree with his idea of pay to win but telling him he is wrong (implying your opinion is right or more valid) seems arrogant.

Yes, he has been gone awhile, I understand that. But you missed my point, i said if he wanted them NOW that it is a grind. A big hurdle.

I don’t know what he does in game. If he does this and that, than he will eventually get all the mats (or gold to buy them) to make an ascended weapon. He could also be one of the lucky few to get one from a chest.

And there was a whole debate on play to win on the SAB forums. I’m not going to start that again here, but his definition is wrong on it.

Im going to type backwards in lfg now.

Draco.2806:

Odokuro.5049:

What I get from your post is that you DO NOT want to work for anything

YES

What exactly is the attraction of having a second job you have to pay for?

In fact, isn’t this the biggest promise Guild Wars 2 rode into the spotlight on its shiny white stallion? That it wouldn’t be like other MMOs?That it wouldn’t be a grind? That it wouldn’t be “work”? That it would be simply “fun”?

This shouldn’t be a second job. It’s absurd. It shouldn’t require “work”. It’s a GAME. For PLAYING. For FUN.

Actually, you iust huy the game and content is free….

What do you do in the game? Cause all i see is you are holding yourself back anyway without spending laurels. Get the accessories, buy some dyes, get t6 mats.
I honestly dont get the wvw debate. Anet said wvw will never be balanced with classes involved. So why do people want the gear to be balanced?

Chuo.4238:

Think I’m done with GW2 for 2013, to be honest. I’ve missed half the LS due to being sent overseas, came back to find a tier gear grind that’s out of this world, and a Super Adventure Box, the one update that was actually fun, has been turned into a painful grind fest that’s pay-to-win.

I have things I can hope for, but I don’t really see anything advertised that I’m looking forward to. This just isn’t the same game I bought. It’s gotten out of control.

Its only a grind if you want it NOW. Im up to four already and i havent been grinding.

Your definition of pay to win is wrong.

What you experienced is what many of us have been waiting for in video games. That sense of accomplishment, of beating something hard and enjoying in the celebration of it. Now, if you experience that feeling over and over again, it has less of an effect, till it no longer matters anymore.

As for your friend who doesnt want to ‘study’ to beat a boss. Fine, then he can learn what didnt work this time and try something else. Im glad anet is moving away from just stacking on boss and dpsing. Also, that other guy away from any n64 or older video games.

ive had it happen to. I hop on, try firing, and nothing happening. Then i get yelled at for not shooting

Galtrix.7369:

Boysenberry.1869:

My Asura looks down on everyone (including other Asura sometimes) and will make it known to chat from time to time. My other characters are more friendly, although my Humans still blame the Charr whenever an event fails.

Because I’m a norn, I look down on you.

Everyone looks down on asura.

I made one angry thinking he was a new backpack from the blt. Turns out i was wrong. Didnt matter, at least there was a new test subject for the cattlepult.

Bloodstone dust + bars = new infusions for discovering?

But really anet, make the dragon bars and stuff sellable. Keep the two weapon parts account bound and ascended weapon account bound too.

Im glad im not the only one in this

I want to know if each boss week gives another pair. I want to use mine to really make my charr necro look like a demon but…

GOSU.9574:

The reason you can not sell ascended mats, and the reason you are time-gated on creating some of the required materials for ascended weapons is Anet wants control over how fast you can aquire them.

Colin Johanson stated people got exotics much faster than they had expected and that shortened the “end game” (grind, my word there). So now to control within the strictest measure possible, no you can not sell your ascended mats.

The more productive thing to ask Anet to allow you to do with them is use them as some other sort of currency. Let’s say….hrm…repair armor by visiting a Armorsmith, instead of having to pay silver.

Yeah….no…you can already buy all the mats you need off the tp except the dust bars, dragon ore, etc. The bars need to craft the weapon pieces and inscription are on the tp. So really, you can ignore the time gate if you have the income, which doing the other stuff for the soulbound items can help with.

Having said that, i do agree making the bars (not raw mats that make them) should be sellable on tp.

IceBlink.4317:

I’d rather have all animations for skill 1 changing depending on what is in offhand. If a non-offensive weapon such as a focus or shield is in the offhand, then skill 1 stays the same. If an offensive weapon is in offhand such as a sword, then skill 1 incorporates the use of the offhand into the attacking chain while keeping the same animation timing and attack type.

For example, if a warrior was using an axe in mainhand and a sword in offhand, Double Chop (the second chain attack) is done with the sword instead, but remains the same damage type (two hits, no conditions).

While i like that idea, as thiefs already yav something like that with their #3 skill depending on your weapons, atm im just looking for for a better feel in combat.

luckyguse.2674:

I want you to go down to Home Depot or a local hardware store and buy yourself a couple of heavy hatches. Walk out into the woods and try to “dual wield” while chopping a tree down. Good luck not breaking your left wrist (if you’re right handed).

Dual wielding 2 heavy weapons is not as easy at it sounds. Unless you’re ambidextrous, your “off hand” is typically used for defensive purposes.

I dont deal with home depot, not after they refused to take back the staff i crafted after it wouldnt conjure up meteor storm…

Using swords for example on warrior:

Primary hand 1 attack, remakns unchanged.
Second attack, if offhand weapon equiped, the off hand weapon performs the attack (same effects and dmg as old main hand).
Third attack is both weapons striking at once.

…is basically spamming one the whole time, while my other hand sits there doing nothing until i press 4 or five for a longer than norm CD attack…

I’m not talking about focuses, shields, etc, I’m talking about duel axes, swords.

It just seems so…off to me.

We barely beat FE. Many people dont read patch notes and thought, ‘ill stand IN the fire ele all the time! WTF WHI DED?!’

No, heres what will really happen;

People killing teq, getting maybe 25 to 50, then

‘Your game will restart in 2 min’

Behellagh.1468:

If they start by activating it to only 5% of the active game population that is still likely 100x more players than are in the closed beta. It is a LFG tool, you need lots of people LFG to test it properly.

In the end for me is just a way to join and get booted by more teams faster for not running with “1337 zerker gear”.

Just like with gw2lfg, you can pick and choose the groups you want to join. They get to put a tag with what they are looking for. So if you want to avoid the zerker only groups, dont join the ‘speed run’ description.

Ripred.4605:

am I the only one that noticed the Commander Tybalt Leftpaw in the background?

Nope, noticed that first before the sword. Looks like after death, tybalt found 100g to buy the tag. It prob went like this:

Welp, going to claw island that may get attacked soon. Better tak out a 100g life insurance policy just incase….
Hmmm…if i fake my death now, ill be 100g richer and can buy a promotion…

Himei.5379:

Lonesamurai.4852:

Zoid.2568:

Yeah, i don’t hope they nerf any more content.
It’s something else to whine about a new feature coming out and just a few days before its release they announce it’s going to be in beta and only for a limited amount of players, while they have advertised this new LFG Tool to release with the update 17 september. Players will be coming back for this update, a lot and they can’t use the LFG Tool. Not a very good strategy.

Indeed

Why advertise something as a MAJOR inclusion in not only a content update, but a living world update and then set it as limited roll out?!?

Madness

Agreed but they probably couldnt get it to run smooth as they hoped. Even if it was “smoothed” by Anet’s standards, probably will be buggy for the players since we will be using it on a account much higher than Anet can test.

Probably runs smooth in internal testing, but as we know and seen, that never translates well to live all the time.

Is this kind of a…lets be blunt….kitten move? Yes. I was never for a lfg tool in the first place, as i am haunted by other games lfgs. But i can give this a chance. At least it LOOKS different and pretty much functions like gw2lfg.com.

I can wait. If it means a better and more polished system, good enough for me.

Erick Alastor.3917:

And this is why people whine about people who whine about vertical progression.
It’s obvious there will ever be people complaining about everything (like for the wallet), but please try to discern better them from us.
Plus I suppose we are quite more numerous.

People will kitten for kittening sake.

Tues we’ll see threads of everyone complaining that teq is too hard now, or is unfair (bugs and glitches warrented, i can see people getting stuck in undertow). Then itll get nerfed, become to easy, people will complain, anet doesnt know what their doing, yadda yadda yadda…

But hey! According to some people, the game is dyin and barely anyone plays! So your chance to be in the beta are pretty good!

I plan on doing the same thing with my nephew when he gets older.

I’ll probably hook up my old NES though and start him on Battletoads.

Yeah, he’ll love me…

Stooperdale.3560:

“6 days for a top tier weapon. Thats all it took me, a humble non hardcore player to get an ascended weapon”

I’m sorry but getting 500 dragonite and 500 empyreal in 6 days is most people’s idea of hardcore.

500 / 6 = 83.333

so, for dragonite ore, 4-5 of the world boss events a day, and he is done. And many happen right after the other, so no time wasted.

as for empyreal, thats four different dungeon paths a day, and one jump puzzle. Heck, he could do two of the same dungeon path (CoF 1 & 2), on two different characters and it would work. Fast dungeon run, fast events. Boom, done in 6 days. I got mine in 6 days, prob sooner if I actually rushed for it.

And someone not knowing what to do with 1000g? I’ll take it, then I can buy the inscription, buy the metal needed to craft the weapon parts, and make the rest of my ascended after a few more dungeon runs.

JDGumby.7685:

Serophous.9085:

JDGumby.7685:

Serophous.9085:

Ya know, after looking at the list, it could actually take 2-3 days to get an ascended weapon.

…if you already have most of the list stocked up. If you’re starting from scratch, you are going to take a LOT longer.

Nah. Im just gonna buy the stuff on the tp, get my stars for the bars, then craft one tonight.

Having enough cash stored up to buy most of the list rather than having the materials stocked is, frankly, the same thing. Either way, you will get it a LOT faster than if you were starting from scratch.

The thing is, i didnt even try to stock up, just like with karma, i had nothing to spend gold on, except a precursor, but i dont want any of the legendaries.

Ok, i did play the tp a bit, buying all the ori ore while it was low and crafting to 500 then selling back left overs, but that was it.

If anything, as the game goes on, more supply on the tp, lower prices, easier to get ascended.

JDGumby.7685:

Serophous.9085:

Ya know, after looking at the list, it could actually take 2-3 days to get an ascended weapon.

…if you already have most of the list stocked up. If you’re starting from scratch, you are going to take a LOT longer.

Nah. Im just gonna buy the stuff on the tp, get my stars for the bars, then craft one tonight.

Ya know, after looking at the list, it could actually take 2-3 days to get an ascended weapon.

Vayne.8563:

maddoctor.2738:

Serophous.9085:

Wolfheart.1938:

No you get your head outside of you know what. If I don’t like the direction where the game is going I have the right to voice my opinion. I like GW2, it was more than worth the 60 bucks but I’d like to keep playing for longer and adding grinding in spades just to get BiS slot will hurt my enjoyment of the game.

And heck no, a casual player isn’t gonna have 105 globs of ecto, 105 t6 mats, 500+ orichalcum ores, 500+ ancient wood logs, 80k karma (karma nerf anyone?), 900 mithril ores and whatever else you need to craft your first weapon. I compiled the list earlier but the thread was deleted, not worth posting it again because people are gonna tell me that 100 keeps to get enough empyreal fragments for 1 weapon is okay.

I would like to stop playing my Guardian for once and bring my Necro in WvW, but to think that I lose 2,5k HP + bonuses from WvW ranks and go from full ascendeds to full exotics…

P.s. plz stop spreading misinformation, they didn’t state ascended is gonna be the last tier. Check Colin’s latest interview

You mean where he said it should be the last tier, other than legendary, unless something happens like a new game director who can change it then?

He said last tier for 2013. That doesn’t mean there will be a new tier in 2014, he had to play it safe in any case. As others said, there is always a chance for a change in management/direction, let’s hope it won’t happen in 2014.

Actually that’s not what he said. You’re referring to an older statement, which was replaced by a newer statement in the PAX video interview.

What he basically said was he hopes this is the last tier and he certainly things that it will be, but he can’t tell that 7 years in the future it might not change, or that someone else couldn’t buy the company and it would change.

Thats what i was trying to get at. And really, all gaming companies try to be vague in many areas cause of that reason.

Do they want to add new tiers? No. Are they planning to? No. Could something happen in the future (gw2 sold to different company, department shake ups, etc) that could change that? Yes.

Wolfheart.1938:

No you get your head outside of you know what. If I don’t like the direction where the game is going I have the right to voice my opinion. I like GW2, it was more than worth the 60 bucks but I’d like to keep playing for longer and adding grinding in spades just to get BiS slot will hurt my enjoyment of the game.

And heck no, a casual player isn’t gonna have 105 globs of ecto, 105 t6 mats, 500+ orichalcum ores, 500+ ancient wood logs, 80k karma (karma nerf anyone?), 900 mithril ores and whatever else you need to craft your first weapon. I compiled the list earlier but the thread was deleted, not worth posting it again because people are gonna tell me that 100 keeps to get enough empyreal fragments for 1 weapon is okay.

I would like to stop playing my Guardian for once and bring my Necro in WvW, but to think that I lose 2,5k HP + bonuses from WvW ranks and go from full ascendeds to full exotics…

P.s. plz stop spreading misinformation, they didn’t state ascended is gonna be the last tier. Check Colin’s latest interview

You mean where he said it should be the last tier, other than legendary, unless something happens like a new game director who can change it then?

Huh, ya know, thinking back to older mmos and messahe boards, the arguments were pve never required skilled, only pvp. I mean, pve is facing a scripted creature. Big attack coming, press dodge now. Red circle, move now. Press 1,2,3,4,5 for best dps.

Heck, people who pvp will have more skill than anyone who pves. Whats harder than facing an opponent that thinks for itself?

haviz.1340:

Serophous.9085:

You spend 1 to 2 hours playing a game. And expect to be rewarded with the bis gear immediately. That, is laughable.

Your lack of understament is. I don’t expect to be rewarded with bis gear immediately. I’m against new tier of the gear when there is no content that would support its introduction and against the method of acquisition of said tier. You’re getting bis gear for doing mindless activities while challenging content gives you basically skins since you will have to transmute those.

No new content? Hold on, fractals has new content? I got bored with that place after 20. Why? Same bosses, same mechanics, just an extra dot. Just higher hp mobs and deal more dmg. Ooooo.

Fractals had no content patch since November, that’s 10 months. They’ve been left to rot for living story crap.

Again, i play more stuff than you. I wvw, do boss events (what is this lag you speak of?), go to other areas and i never spent much time in to see whats going in, or soloing group events woth champs tjat can bring a hurting to you.

You do more variety than me but all of this is mindnumbing.

Now, explain to me, why you, who plays a tiny fraction of the game, for only a few hours, deserves better gear than anyone else?

Playing something challenging like arah dungeon should reward you proportionally to spamming 1 in open world. The reward ratio to risk and effort put is currently completely broken. High risk/no reward and no risk/high reward sounds okay to you?

Arah? Challenging? Sure, keep thinking that. You don’t need coordinated teams to do dungeons. They are easy enough as is.

Go ahead, try the balthazar escort event, try just spamming one to keep the escort alive.

Try Grenth temple just spamming one.

Try lyssa just spamming one, enjoy the risen ape during that event.

I agree, some need more updating, and teq is the first to happen to. I can’t wait to see how hard he is. I want the challenge. Its why I love SAB trib mode.

But if you complain about people doing the most efficient way to get something, and come here to complain because you are handicapping yourself. I feel no pity. play the WHOLE GAME.

Dresden.1736:

You’re not doing yourselves any favors holding onto these things. Use them as they come up and increase your MF as you go.

I was opening up a bunch of boxes at the time.

Katz.5143:

Ah, I see …you can refine your small luck stacks to get the larger luck. Basically it is to save clicking on 10 luck stacks. You refine into less items to click on. As it gives an account bound product I assume the only purpose is to save you having to click a lot?

Well, there went over 250 clicks on my mouse. And pointer finger is giving me nasty looks.

I beat 1-1 with 10 coins on trib. Got over 250 baubles (5 coins worth) 2 bauble baubles, and a continue coin. Almost even if you ask me.

I noticed this too. Wondering if its just a glitch…

Chessrook.8643:

Rukh.9287:

Brendar.3548:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

how about a new formula to make them into “ascended buffs” or something. :p
The kinda like the food and oil buffs thing.

That would likely be Chef 500

This is a really good idea.

Yes. Consuming pieces of or dust from the Bloodstone. There’s no way this can possibly backfire on the average creature’s digestive system.

I ate etheron once, and got a stomache. But that was etheron, bloodstone dust will be different

Someone on my server got it from the chest in the golem event. Needless to say he showed it off right away.

They drop, but are really rare.

Hm……SAB trib mode or wvw with DB….SAB trb seems more fun.

And yaks use to face tc before, least their rpers are fun.

haviz.1340:

Serophous.9085:

I like these responses.

Im gonna play football with one hand tied behind my back and complain about losing because the other team has everyone using two.

You CHOOSE to handicap yourself. Dont blame others for doing everything and getting stuff faster.

I’m playing content made specifically for coordinated teams and getting almost no rewards. On the other hand you spend hours at spamming 1 during lagfest events and are rewarded unproportionally to your input. Your analogy is hiliarous to say the least, I’m actually putting infinitely more effort than you do.

I choose not to die from boredom while doing mindnumbing, brainless activity people like you find entertaining. What happened to “play how I want”? At the launch you could have got BiS gear from numbers of sources, wvw, dungeons, karma, crafting.

Explain logically, why people like you need gear progression without any new content? You can’t have fun without it?

You spend 1 to 2 hours playing a game. And expect to be rewarded with the bis gear immediately. That, is laughable.

No new content? Hold on, fractals has new content? I got bored with that place after 20. Why? Same bosses, same mechanics, just an extra dot. Just higher hp mobs and deal more dmg. Ooooo.

Again, i play more stuff than you. I wvw, do boss events (what is this lag you speak of?), go to other areas and i never spent much time in to see whats going in, or soloing group events woth champs tjat can bring a hurting to you.

Now, explain to me, why you, who plays a tiny fraction of the game, for only a few hours, deserves better gear than anyone else?

haviz.1340:

Serophous.9085:

Hm, i just need emp crystals apparently, and time. So im on track.

How you say?

IM JUST PLAYING THE GAME

The cool thing to do now is salvage everything you get, go to different zones (you wont just get 80 loot all the time) . Even in wvw killing lower players gives me lower end loot. Or i get badges, which then i buy prints and sell on tp, then buy lower loot to salvage.

I’m playing a game – fractals. I get ~100 bloodstones, 49 empyreal fragments, 0 dragonite ores and 1-2g for 1-2 hours of work.

I can also do arah, arguably the hardest dungeon. Average completion time for a pug would be 30-45 minutes while getting 50 bloodstones, 20 empyreal fragments, 0 dragonite ores and 2g.

Sounds okay to you compared to someone who spam 1 and gets >20x more for miniscule effort?

I like these responses.

Im gonna play football with one hand tied behind my back and complain about losing because the other team has everyone using two.

You CHOOSE to handicap yourself. Dont blame others for doing everything and getting stuff faster.

Hm, i just need emp crystals apparently, and time. So im on track.

How you say?

IM JUST PLAYING THE GAME

The cool thing to do now is salvage everything you get, go to different zones (you wont just get 80 loot all the time) . Even in wvw killing lower players gives me lower end loot. Or i get badges, which then i buy prints and sell on tp, then buy lower loot to salvage.

The current system is thus:

Hold a tower, earn points every tick, or kill dolyaks. And of course, as many of us know, this really caters to the bigger servers with the most coverage. So if you lose to a ‘night crew’ you are screwed the rest of the match.

So, the current system of scoring needs an overhaul. Points need to be earned in different ways or different means.

Lets look at what goes on in wvw:

Roaming
Capturing points
Defending points
Fight Club
GvG

So, if we try to make objectives that are appealing to all aspects, then maybe this can work better to balance fights.

By no means am I saying my idea is correct, I am merely starting a discussion and hoping it can hit off to make wvw better.

Now, we have a bar that records the point ticks to see what bonus our who server gets. Why can’t we do the same thing for scoring? Will it be more complicated, need balancing, and fine tuning? yes, of course.

Example: Kills. Lets say that when a server earns 10,000 kills, they get 200pts added to their score.

The defending events: every time a place is defended, it earns points depending on what was defended (dolyaks being the lowest, followed by camps, towers, SM). Once that bar fills, more points added. Same can go for assaulting and capturing.

The point ticks can still happen, but this would at least give servers a better chance at earning points to try and keep up during offpeak hours.

Edusd.7893:

Posted here as per request: “Soth Deadpaw”(commissioned)

So freaken sweet, I love it. Guys, commision this person, the gold is worth it!