They gave us no sequence for either of the 2 lower boss cycles and said nothing about whether events would run simultaneously.
Always more of their mystery.
Some of those achievements don’t count towards the final reward.
This is not a race.
There is extremely little talent involved.
The rewards are not awarded according to which position you finish in.
The skills are intentionally glitched.
Actions that normally work every time, only work most of the time here.
Each time a skill fails, (and at least one will every trip) you usually start over.
The 3 elemental spirits generally only block normally good moves of the leaders.
This is not a race by any definition.
Maybe, “The Generally Intentionally Glitched Dolyak Experience” would work for a name.
Perhaps then more people will try it.
I made myself read this entire thread. I realize now that I don’t main Ranger anymore and this thread pretty clearly shows why. I leveled 3 other professions over the last 3 months and they are just so much more fun to play.
I played Ranger for 16 months and loved the concept of pet and ranged combat. “The Concept”, not what it became. I believe the Devs are totally stumped over Ranger and urge you to at least try another profession before committing any significant effort into this one.
I do wonder how anyone can claim the profession is fine, knowing how misleading and damaging that can be to other players and to the Devs. I guess if being the best of the worst is a goal…..
Funny, I haven’t even looked at the other 3 professions forums. Haven’t needed to.
I don’t understand why they aren’t basically “giving” the Favors away.
At 5, 7 or 10 gold per sovereign weapon skin, that’s quite a gold sink.
There’s little point in having more than one of the other 2 rewards and there’s lots of good looking weapon skins.
Glad you like the pets. That’s what drew me to Ranger right away.
It’s also why I almost never play Ranger anymore.
They have clearly established that the pet mechanic is broken and that they don’t know how to fix it.
An unpenalized damage, all range class.
So Players will wait, or be new, and they will ask other players whether the content is worth purchasing, or they will come here to see if it’s worth buying.
Looking around these forums I see a lot of, anger, mistrust, tons of threads about failure to communicate or to fix or balance, and I’m wondering why anyone coming here would ever buy it? Whether it’s good or not.
I think I would have started with a huge communications effort here in the forums first.
If this is not a bug, then your game is pointless.
Looks like another 400 or so will be constantly deleted from my inventory over the next month. (Ok, bloodstone too…)
I understand if there are long lines for the gambits, but if there aren’t, why not allow sales?
This is still not giving credit. If there is a top 3 requirement, it doesn’t state so.
Text or ASCII based? Would the Realm of Angmar, with my 300 baud modem count?
As much as I want to agree…..
After playing Ranger since day one, I got tired of all the constant nerfs and totally lack of Dev understanding, I leveled a Warrior (in a hundredth of the time). The difference was amazing. The Warrior has constant instant access to many forms of swiftness and you get Fury or Might most of the time too. All the weapons work. The class mechanic works. Everything just simply flows perfectly. Everyone seems glad to see me show up. I know, it’s soooooooo strange!
I love my Ranger and will always play it, but do yourself a favor and try a different class or two. You’ll be suprized, or absolutely stunned like me.
I thought all of those sigils were Zommoros food.
What a GREAT WAY to send in game hate right through the roof.
I think that must be what they were going for with their April 15th Social improvements.
Ya think?
Exactly. Of course it’s not going to happen a lot, but still, this is not completely thought out design. One chest ain’t the end of the world and I like the concept but the design should have included allowances for very larger groups and for when the last settlement is on one end, she shouldn’t then spawn near the other end.
Yeah, cleared the 4th settlement and she spawned so far away she was dead before I could get there.
This is designed failure.
Each release should have content designed to reward skill, which means groups of 5 to solo, along with larger group events like the Marionette that require group coordination but not massive guild coordination, along with story driven content that draws us through new maps with new content to new Bosses/Dragons, along with fun filler stuff like the SAB when the Story has to slow while map completion is done.
How’s that for one sentence?
Actually, I wouldn’t mind if individual maps were released in sections that coordinated with the LS. It might give new meaning and options to the Yellow Heart Tasks.
I may have already acquired some of these new Ranger Traits. No problem with the acquiring aspect, except that I don’t know if I have gotten any. The reason I don’t know, is that I know that I will never use a single one of the new ones and don’t see any actual additional value in any of them for any build that anyone would actually use. That is the problem.
Actually, literature started well before the 1940s. References date the Robin Hood story to the 14th century. Oddly, about the same time as the first hand held pistol was made in China. Those didn’t become functional until the 19th century. For 400 years, the main weapons used were what a GW@ Ranger uses now, excluding a rifle.
Many “sword and sorcery’s” books, fantasy’s and even some heroic epics dealt with what is now, somebodies ideal of what a GW2 Ranger should be.
I think your starting pet is at least partially determined by the race you choose, along with the way you answer the startup questions. Might want to check that out ahead of time.
What has not been addressed here is the plain and simple fact that most of the players that find bows and pets fun think of ranger as a character doing damage from range.
Yes, I use sword/warhorn but that’s not my choice, it’s the only way to be effective at all.
If Ranger is ever going to take an equal useful place among the other classes, those bows and pets have to become effective. Both bows and all pets.
When that happens, melee with frost spirit and spotter will still be good, and the so called selfish/bad players will have a way to play effectively without the need to play PvE content in a way that seems selfish.
Oh, please don’t bother giving your interpretation of what a ranger is. It doesn’t matter. We start this game with our own expectations. If the game doesn’t live up to them, we either unhappily move on or lower our expectations. Other’s expectations generally don’t matter.
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Celestial sigils and runes have enough defense to keep you alive combined with enough offense to get the job done, eventually.
Longer fight, less risk, basically.
Now that we will be able to change our traits on the fly, we should be better prepared for each individual fight. This reduces the risk involved and therefore the need for the durability these runes and sigils provide.
Add to that the reduced cost of dying because of no repair costs, (less risk). That’s seems like some pretty big variables to just say 6% but they have to start somewhere. Celestial may have to go through a trail and error period to ultimately regain it’s true value.
There’s a lot of different things to do in this game and many way to enjoy it.
I’m kind of surprised by a lot of the comments here that imply that if I’m not playing and enjoying the exact same parts of the game that you are, I shouldn’t even be allowed to play here, even though we both paid the same for it.
The AP change seems wrong but we just don’t know enough yet to be sure. There are plenty of other ways to resolve the issue, some as simple as giving players a one time option to be removed from the leaderboard. There’s something else going on here.
Changes to the games reward structure could require this AP change. Efforts designed to make gameplay more friendly, or to restructure grouping or in game communication, or any number of things combined could require it.
Nothing I’ve read in this thread changes my perspective, that the game play that I enjoy, will become rewardless to me. But, let’s wait and see what this week brings. Maybe the issue will be lost in the new changes.
The limits on daily and monthly APs overall seems modest. Let’s say you do 10 dailies (twice as many as you need to complete the daily) for 1,000 days straight. IIRC, each daily is 1AP. It would take you 2.7 years to hit that ceiling. Seems like that gives devs plenty of time to come back to these numbers as time progresses to see if they need adjusting in the scale of the game’s lifespan.
I don’t see how this is discouraging at all. I’d venture to guess that a majority of players will not hit this cap any time soon. I’m glad it’ll put a cap on AP inflation from this source, tbh. Like I said, I’d be very surprised if these were numbers that were not re-evaulated at the end of each year or something.
So we clearly need to get caps put on the content that you enjoy specifically so you will understand our perspective. Is that what you’re saying?
Err..? What other AP content is unlimited and causes max-total AP inflation in the way dailies/monthlies currently do? I can think of the salvaging achievement… but maybe you’ll have other examples to provide.
Every other achievement in the game is a solid one-time earning for hitting a landmark (10 AP for killing this meta boss) or a stepping stone for a similarly limited category (500/1,000 somethings slayed).
Also: implying that I don’t like dailies.
I wasn’t implying anything. I used the word specifically. Meaning content that you enjoy, not that you don’t enjoy.
You say that you don’t see it as discouraging. You guess your in the majority. You demand there is AP inflation occurring.
Guess what? It’s just your opinion. Perhaps your opinion would change if it was the part of the game you enjoyed most that was capped.
And seriously? You are going to compare a daily or monthly achievement with one time achievements? So we have one daily and one monthly period. Everyone will love that….
As an AP hunter, this is a horrible change. I wont be able to play the content that I want. Strange, never once did I think that the AP panel demanded anything t all.
The limits on daily and monthly APs overall seems modest. Let’s say you do 10 dailies (twice as many as you need to complete the daily) for 1,000 days straight. IIRC, each daily is 1AP. It would take you 2.7 years to hit that ceiling. Seems like that gives devs plenty of time to come back to these numbers as time progresses to see if they need adjusting in the scale of the game’s lifespan.
I don’t see how this is discouraging at all. I’d venture to guess that a majority of players will not hit this cap any time soon. I’m glad it’ll put a cap on AP inflation from this source, tbh. Like I said, I’d be very surprised if these were numbers that were not re-evaulated at the end of each year or something.
So we clearly need to get caps put on the content that you enjoy specifically so you will understand our perspective. Is that what you’re saying?
Tumult, does this mean you only played GW2 to get daily points? What about doing dungeons, or living story, or PvP/WvW. Did you never try them out? If you have, you notice there are a lot of points to be gotten there, which you can approach anytime now instead of doing dailies.
For a lot of people, the only reason to log in daily is for the daily achievement. Certainly the other achievements are interesting but not always practical to progress / complete in only an hour each week night.
If you are interested in points, then you are interested in other activities besides dailies because they give a loooot more points short term. If you are not interested in points then nothing will be taken away from you.
Absolutely wrong. I have no interest in PvP and will never care whether there are points available there. Basically the same for WvW although I do enjoy some of that content sometimes.
We each set our own goals for this game. I get to play the way I want, and so do you.
Your entitled to your opinion, but that never means it has to be mine.
For me, this game now has an ENDGAME of 10k AP. Then I find another game.
“There will be a limit of 10,000 daily and 5,000 monthly achievement points”
This confuses me greatly. I have a very few times gotten 10 points for daily, usually about 7 or 8. 10,000?
Total points, not points every day. You can see them if you hover over your number in the achievement UI.
@Tumult I guarantee you haven’t reached the caps
True, I haven’t. My mistake but it doesn’t change anything. We all pick our own goals. If AP farming is what you enjoy, then you now have an endgame of 10k.
10k AP is now ENDGAME for me.
Regardless of the intent of the suggestion, I suspect Anet simply see’s this as another way to force PvE players into the other parts of the game. I just wish they would check to see if they move to another part or another game.
Someone said there’s 3 groups of Devs working separately, but you can bet the other 2 are saying “We want the PvE players here too”, whether they want to or not.
Having reached the acclaimed tag, I have a fair amount of AP but I have never looked at any leader board and never will. Leader boards are very counter productive, except at the top, and simply drive a lot of players away.
With this change it now means that when I reach that 10k goal, it’s the final goal, and I then find a new game. Yes Anet, a very interesting business plan…
Having met those AP goals I guess I’m supposed to leave now.
I hope you know how many of us there are….
The OP was complaining that Rangers were unfairly impacted by the reduction in Crit damage. REALITY compelled me to point out that A ) the reduction is absolutely proportional for EVERYONE, and B ) When you’re starting from a lower base (which Rangers do) the absolute magnitude of the loss is in fact smaller than other classes.
So, I am in fact against the “Ranger pity festival” this thread tried to throw.
Rangers have problems. The Ferocity change ISN’T ONE OF THEM.
Wow, I’m really impressed with your confidence. The word “Knights” keeps popping into my head when I consider these changes. We don’t always play like they expect.
The OP was complaining that Rangers were unfairly impacted by the reduction in Crit damage. REALITY compelled me to point out that A ) the reduction is absolutely proportional for EVERYONE, and B ) When you’re starting from a lower base (which Rangers do) the absolute magnitude of the loss is in fact smaller than other classes.
So, I am in fact against the “Ranger pity festival” this thread tried to throw.
Rangers have problems. The Ferocity change ISN’T ONE OF THEM.
Wow, I’m really impressed with your confidence. The word “Knights” keeps popping into my head when I consider these changes.
I’d still wait and I’d expect anything I craft to be nerfed soon. I didn’t say the nerf would be unwarranted, simply that it will happen.
You can level a Ranger to 80 in PvE and never dodge once. Many rangers have done this. Actually, if your constantly minding your pets, because of their admittedly broken mechanic, and trying to not jump off the cliff with your sword, (another major mechanic finally being changed) you don’t have a lot of time to experiment with dodge.
Now, at 80 with good gear, enter Dungeons, WvW, PvP, where all you really have to do is dodge and you get instant hatred from the other classes who cant understand how you can be so bad. Add the broken pets and well…..
So is it wrong to have a profession that doesn’t have to dodge much at all, or is it wrong to make dodge the main mechanic in the game for everyone else, or is there something in between?
A game is all about fun. And the question is:
is it more fun to:
1: re-gear a GW2 ele (underpowered class, already quite broken) because our ascended set we spent time and money on got nerfed to the ground?
or
2: discover the world of a new big MMO?Fun is subjective.
What is more fun?
1. The painful endeavor of abandoning one game to begin grinding through yet another mmo that may or may not be any good, and run the risk of coming full circle to the disappointing realization that you just wasted months of your life on something you don’t enjoy, while coming up with overly long sentences to use in pseudo-occam’s razer straw man arguments.
or
2. A new outlook on stats and gear.
Clearly number 1. You almost described our experience with this game perfectly. Just add that we see the game has great potential but instead everything is constantly nerfed. Once you realize the constant destruction of effort is designed to push us towards the gem shop, it’s time.
I don’t think it is silence so much as exceptionally poor communication. Many Dev posts generate pages of additional questions. Granted, what happened with the Knight fight was enough silence to make players leave.
Players are trying to help make the game better too. We don’t need more confusion. Perhaps a game Communications specialist would be as helpful as a game economist.
“Any character that was created before the feature pack build will be grandfathered into the system; meaning that they will have traits 1 through 12 of each line unlocked. The new 13 traits will need to be unlocked by everyone. Any character created after the build will be required to unlock all of their traits via content or purchasing trait guides.”
You used the word required so, sorry but I have to ask.
How are you going to force players to unlock or buy traits? As a current character, I don’t expect to see any new traits that I will use, yet I’m required to get them???
Having read the CDI and all these new coming changes, I am unable to provide positive feedback. Cant find even one thing that I use or might use, that I like.
My concern? That a loss of 10% to 25% of Rangers wont even be noticed.
I thought pets were already supposed to function correctly. This fix brings us back near other profession levels. It’s not any bonus to us. The other professions are receiving something additional. Why don’t we get anything?
Good idea to add the ability to change traits, almost on the fly. Thanks for implementing it.
I was going to express my concerns over the trait acquisition but then I realized that there will likely be no new traits for Rangers that I would ever use.
I was going to comment on the level 30 requirement for traits but then I realized that
now, I probably wont level those other characters to 80 and deck them out with the cash shop so I consider myself……..richer.
I believe this is an excellent way to reduce the number of Legendary weapons made. It also goes a long way towards making new players move on when they see that one of the top goals requires a huge amount of time and effort, forces them into more and more unfamiliar content, and others before them didn’t have to do it.
I don’t see this as a good way to increase your gem buying base.
So how do we all rate the end of LS season 1
in Battle for Lion’s Arch - Aftermath
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We seem to love lots of new content as often as we can get it, and demand it be good, but it kinda looks like the LS isn’t the way to accomplish it. Would we accept serious bug fixes, new areas, and updates of old bosses/events as readily as the LS?
Please let’s try it!
Oh, and if you’ve seen map chat, you already know why so many ignore it. Is it so hard to get it through to players that “say” is for your friends nearby, and “map” is to talk to everyone on the whole map (most of who are not interested in your chatter, which is unrelated to what they are doing).
One simple question answers this. What makes Anet more money?
I suspect they will push us to our home instances for everything but make that airship available for anyone with cash.
Yeah, I was referring to the Prime Hologram fight which is in fact potentially much longer and involved and can require twice the effort and still go without reward. It’s a bunch of greens and bloodstone (getting really bored of deleting bloodstone) but it’s still something. The cores are the real loot.
Rangers held their own with strong condition builds for a long time. The Nerf last July to the Shortbow, (to force players to use the Longbow) coupled with changes to skills has removed the strong conditions option.
The only way to remain somewhat effective is to learn the Sword, and when you think you have, it will surprise you. Frankly, it’s an ugly weapon for functionality.
As it stands, I’d say your title is correct. (Strangely, I still play Ranger the most by far).
Not sure if it helps but I suspect the 3 cores I got from a Knight fight, followed by 3 more from the Scarlet fight might be the top cap. Having done the event maybe 40 times, and collected 35 power cores, It seems the average is much less than one but hitting 6, and three 4’s, means 21 of 40 times I got something.
With RNG it could just as easily have been 2 of 40.
What concerns me is the total lack of loot on failures. It drives people away. I’d much rather see less for a win and more for a loss so it remains do-able.
Could part of the problem be that some of the events achievements may be most easily obtained by not doing anything at all while inside fighting Scarlet, except maybe dodging?
Kind of says this type of activity is ok.
While preferring new explorable maps, I was fine with trying out the LS. Yes, for a whole year.
There were parts of the LS that I enjoyed and parts that I intentionally played little or none of. The Marionette was fun. Bringing finishers in LS was no fun whatsoever. The correct allocation of achievement points could have eliminated much of the content that was done in a zerg. I don’t understand why that wasn’t done.
There doesn’t really seem to be any point in trying to assign numbers to the first 19 chapters of the LS because the final chapter has become something I cannot provide positive feedback on, and eliminated any good feeling I had toward the LS.