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All of this avoids the inescapable truth: Matchmaking does not and cannot work.

You cannot determine an individual’s skill level in a random team of 5, in addition to an individual’s skill being variable dependent on that individual. A simple test will verify this. Reset everyone’s MMR to new for the league season. I’m pretty sure no one will notice the difference or may even have a better experience.

Example I played a match with no afking or dcs. Our team lost 500-90 and I lost two pips which means we were heavily favoured to win. Who knows maybe it was -3 pips but -2 pips took me to zero for the tier anyway. This exemplifies just how useless the system is.

We have a highly complicated algorithmically derived MMR which produces the same effect as if it didn’t exist, or likely makes things worse. The MMR tries to get rid of base randomness (50% win/loss rate) and replaced it with structured randomness (50% win/loss rate) resulting in utter madness. Even if it did work, matchmaking is conceptually flawed. One player with extremely high MMR + 4 low MMR players does not equal 5 medium MMR players. The truth is MMR hides the true imbalances between classes, without it you would see clusters of certain classes topping the league system.

imo worst meta we ever had

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PvP definitely requires less skill now, because of the overall increase in damage. Spam invulns, evades, blocks and fire off a few skills and hope they hit or just stand still on cap spamming oversized aoe damage or condi fields while watching TV.

Delete MMR system

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MMR seems to cause more problems than it solves. I remember the time before MMR and it wasn’t as bad. Right now we have an imperfect system trying to do the impossible and that is determine the skill level of an individual that plays in a team of 5. Maybe this has more relevance for a premade that always play together, but not for a pug. Would we even notice the difference, or maybe it could be a big improvement especially with the league. I think all we need is a system to ensure there is a good mix of classes picked for each PUG team.

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How to deal with teams that summon AIs?

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I find necro minions the worst because there are so many. If you lose the necro target you have to cycle through all the minions to get them again.

Dragonhunter Counter for Bunker Chrono

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I play power shatter mostly and I was just about to create a thread on the same topic. I’ve tried a number of different builds and strategies, but I’m just getting hammered by traps. If you try to fight ranged, they can out dps you with true shot (7K damage)and puncture shot (2.5-3K damage), but if you go melee even with shield the traps just destroy you. I’m resisting going back to my old PU build for now.

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1 shot trap. This is not PVP.

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Yeah I walked into one of these left by a DH who wasn’t even around any more. Multiple invisible traps resulting in insta death, zero counterplay because it is over in a sec.

HoT or GTFO?

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I don’t envy anyone playing standard specs at the moment. The elite specs in general have superior damage and sustain. I was in one match and a player told another team member to stay close because they didn’t have HoT. I was like wtf. Good builds can still hold their own but they face an up hill battle.

NERF THAT

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If you check the PvP forums chrono barely gets a mention for complaints, because other classes can manage chronos. With the amount of unblockable skills added to the game even a bunker can be reduced to tears.

Lost 2 PIPs 499-502 and 478-501

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The rules for gaining or losing points is too opaque. They should clearly define under what circumstances you can lose/gain 1 or 2 points. At the moment it seems illogical. You play against a team that is 3 capping in the match, and then lose 2 points despite the other team being obviously much better.

How to counter Chronobunker

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Fighting a chrono, as least you can stand on cap and fight most of the time. But with DH spamming traps/impassable barriers, and tempest aoe spamming air overload you don’t even have a look in.

Need dishonour for afking

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I don’t understand the logic in pitching pugs and premades together. Makes no sense, like a lot of stuff Anet is doing these days.

Need dishonour for afking

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Too much of this going on at the moment for absurd reasons. Give x5 dishonour for people chilling at base, standing still not on cap or not reacting to being attacked on the field.

...PVP?

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In general, pretty terrible. Balance is of out the window. Worse than beta. Too many skills made for the elite specs without any consideration on how to counter-play them. MMR and the league make no sense together. The devs bury their heads in the sand and ignore the mess they’ve made, and refuse to do any balance patches until esport tourneys begin. I think that sums it up.

Lowering MMR by losing on purpose

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The way I see it is, they now have two systems that are diametrically opposed to each other. MMR reduces the chances of win streaks, while the league requires win streaks to gain tiers and divisions. I’m mythed this wasn’t factored in. So now AFKing during a match will increase to counter the effect of MMR. The concept of MMR is flawed anyway: how do you accurately measure 1 player’s skill level in a PUG of 5. You can’t regardless of number of matches played.

Invisible Dragonhunter knockdown walls

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It is a bug. They tried to fix this in a previous patch, but the fix didn’t work.

Nov 17th patch notes:

Dragon’s Maw: Fixed an issue that caused the effects of this trap to fade early, leaving an invisible, impassable ring for a short time. Reduced the visual noise on the effects associated with this skill.

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Possible to reach division 3?

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So match making tends to average your win/lost ratio to about 50%. So when you get to div 2 you lose a point if you lose the match. So 5 straight wins followed by 5 straight loses= 0 pts. Is it going to be possible to get +25 more wins than losses to get from div 2 to div 3?

Colin on future balance patch

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They released a new product with new elite specs, and then said we’ll fix things in 3 months time. From reddit it sounds like they think everything is fine which means they have no idea how to balance what they have created. DH traps are still OP, and still are invisible after being triggered (which they said was fixed, but it wasn’t), among a host of other things.

No balance patch till spring 2016?

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Only balancing for tournaments is a terrible decision, especially since the majority of people aren’t even interested in them. Neglecting 99% of your PvP player base for 1% makes zero sense even in Anet’s universe.

ESL less than 5k viewers

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I think Anet are making a mistake concentrating on minority gameplay (Esports, raids, fractals) rather than in-game experience, mechanics and balance that affect everyone. At some point someone will realise what a waste of time and money it was.

balance patch on 1 dec 2015

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Must reduce the noise from skills. That has to be the top priority…right??

Druid solar beam bugs

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I’ve noticed a few bugs with this skill. First solar beam goes through walls and other obstacles, and second sometimes when attacked with the beam it stayed attached to you even after death. In my last match the beam stayed attached to my character throughout the whole match going through the whole map from the user to me.

Too much condi spam, game is unplayable

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There is a lot wrong with PvP at the moment, and the way conditions have been treated is one of them. They received a massive buff, but have no damage reduction like toughness for it. Condi cleansing is depends on what class you play on how much you you can clear and how quickly. The biggest issues with conditions is they can stack too high in PvP, quite a few aoe condition fields are far too large (leading to lazy game play), and to many skills giving multiple conditions often leaving things like immobilise too far down the line to be cleansed.

Invisible CC Hack

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This was supposed to have been fixed according to the November 17 2015 patch notes, but it hasn’t as I’ve experienced this too recently.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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My conclusions from this thread:

(1) Gun flame hitting for 20K in sPvP can and does happen.

(2) Some people just can’t admit they were wrong and use increasing long paragraphs to make it sound like they were right, despite concrete evidence to the contrary.

(3) This thread seems to be full of agitated people who play warrior who feel hard done by because they believe their class is unviable or unable to compete with the other elites. So any one who says anything not to their liking about the class is abused regardless whether what they say is true or not.

(4) The warrior class seems to attract some of the biggest egos and most unsavoury people in the GW2 PvP player base, which is quite an accomplishment.

(5) Some people think a 17-20K hit from a single skill (regardless of conditions required for it) is fine, while others do not. Common sense does not seem to be a factor.

(6) Some people believe they are warrior gurus and theory crafting geniuses but yet do not even know what their own class is capable of, but will keep posting nonsense to try and salvage what little is left of their credibility.

(7) Very likely someone will respond to this post exemplifying one or several of the points made above.

Ad honinem and Poisoning the Well, very nice!

Still waiting on you to apologize to the rest of us for an out of context Gunflame. I don’t really care for the other folks who disagreed with the original assertion about the 20k Gunflame initially and they can do whatever they want in form of an apology, or not apologizing.

But you haven’t been intellectually honest have you?

I’m one of the few people who has been honest in the entire thread, intellectually or otherwise. The context was given, I was hit by a 20K crit gun flame during a sPvP match. There was no other context. Maybe I should have added point (8) Some people are not capable of reading or comprehending.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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My conclusions from this thread:

(1) Gun flame hitting for 20K in sPvP can and does happen.

(2) Some people just can’t admit they were wrong and use increasing long paragraphs to make it sound like they were right, despite concrete evidence to the contrary.

(3) This thread seems to be full of agitated people who play warrior who feel hard done by because they believe their class is unviable or unable to compete with the other elites. So any one who says anything not to their liking about the class is abused regardless whether what they say is true or not.

(4) The warrior class seems to attract some of the biggest egos and most unsavoury people in the GW2 PvP player base, which is quite an accomplishment.

(5) Some people think a 17-20K hit from a single skill (regardless of conditions required for it) is fine, while others do not. Common sense does not seem to be a factor.

(6) Some people believe they are warrior gurus and theory crafting geniuses but yet do not even know what their own class is capable of, but will keep posting nonsense to try and salvage what little is left of their credibility.

(7) Very likely someone will respond to this post exemplifying one or several of the points made above.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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Wow even after it has been confirmed people are still trying to morph what they say to justify their wrongful accusations. Just accept you were wrong and your vilification of what I posted was also wrong. It doesn’t matter what other skills a warr has to use, that was not what people were saying, they were saying is was not possible in sPvP, and likely only possibly in WvW which was not correct. Trying to spin it so you come out in some good light after bashing someone for telling the truth is pretty shameful.

Are you the sort of person who runs someone over in a car and blames them for walking on the pavement, and then realises pavements aren’t for cars so criticise your victim for walking funny instead. For real??

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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So a 20K ranged attack is possible, like the OP said. Do you think all the people who have laid on the hate and derided the OP will apologize?

I doubt it. I simply posted what happened and I been called a liar, a troll, a noob, L2P, trying to deceive (i.e. taking the screen shot from a beta), abused in game by two people (reported btw), among the other vitriol.

But if anyone wants to publicly apologize they can and I will accept it.

Thanks to SchmendrickTheMagician and Ross Biddle’s discernment for showing it is possible.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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For the record the screen shot was taken yesterday, about 10min before I posted it so this is not from beta or any other period.

understandable, but 20k means pure glass warrior.

reflect it to instakill?

I had just engaged a DH in mid and the Warr hit me from out of my field of view (i.e. he was not screen), so there wasn’t an opportunity to do anything. But really one shots like this sound broken, and since some people are saying it is not possible it makes me think it is definitely broken. It could be a particular skill/trait interaction or something else, I have no idea. But it happened.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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For the record the screen shot was taken yesterday, about 10min before I posted it so this is not from beta or any other period.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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Why are we still wasting our time with this guy? Obvious troll is obvious.

-> Claims to have 5k games
-> Don’t know what class and amulet has to do with damage taken
-> Gets hit by one of the most telegraphed skill in game
-> In wvw, most likely
-> Comes to qq in pvp forum instead of l2p
-> Typical noob

You need to get a life.

Sounds like you don’t want gun flame looked at.

They have looked at it. They can look at it again. There’s nothing wrong with it. There is something wrong with you though.

I just posted a copy of an insta down skill hit in sPVP, that a few people are saying isn’t possible. But it is. I don’t think there is anything wrong with me doing that, and if warrs are saying it is impossible then something is broken somewhere. Therefore I’ve done the responsible thing and posted it here.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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Why are we still wasting our time with this guy? Obvious troll is obvious.

-> Claims to have 5k games
-> Don’t know what class and amulet has to do with damage taken
-> Gets hit by one of the most telegraphed skill in game
-> In wvw, most likely
-> Comes to qq in pvp forum instead of l2p
-> Typical noob

You need to get a life.

Sounds like you don’t want gun flame looked at.

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Your questions are not relevant. What does my class and stats have anything to do with getting hit with a 20K crit with a skill from another class?

If you’ve played 5k matches and you actually think those questions are not relevant, then you can only be a troll.

Which means I’m just wasting my time.

Yes I think you are, because what your saying makes no sense.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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The fact that flame gun can do 20K crit damage would have nothing to do with my class and or stats. The most important thing would have been what flame gun build was being used. The image is cropped to not include the other player’s name. As I said I’m happy for Anet to look into this, because this looks broken to me. Why it is doing so much damage, I have no absolutely no idea, but maybe a warr who knows this build could tell you.

I’m sorry, but the fact that you did not reply to a single one of my questions makes me even more suspicious. There are tons of ways to easily fabricate a similar result outside of a normal pvp match – especially if you take into consideration things like might and vulnerability. And the fact that similar numbers are basically unheard of at the moment in normal pvp matches just makes it look like a fabricated result even more.

Hopefully I’m wrong and I’m sorry if that’s the case. I guess it will be up to Anet to check.

War can’t dish those numbers currently with gunflame, expect for WvWvW against someone upscaled.

So either it’s taken during beta before nerf, or it’s taken not in SPvP, or it’s taken in SPvP but against someone w/o amulet, with full buffs going, either way just ignore that dude he seems to be a troll according to his post history.

Seems like if anyone says warr is viable or points out a broken warr skill then they must be troll right. The fact I said I want Anet to check my logs on a forum that the devs check didn’t even register. Why would someone say that if they were aiming to deceive. I also give Anet permission to post that combat log for everyone to see, I really have no problem with that.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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The fact that flame gun can do 20K crit damage would have nothing to do with my class and or stats. The most important thing would have been what flame gun build was being used. The image is cropped to not include the other player’s name. As I said I’m happy for Anet to look into this, because this looks broken to me. Why it is doing so much damage, I have no absolutely no idea, but maybe a warr who knows this build could tell you.

I’m sorry, but the fact that you did not reply to a single one of my questions makes me even more suspicious. There are tons of ways to easily fabricate a similar result outside of a normal pvp match – especially if you take into consideration things like might and vulnerability. And the fact that similar numbers are basically unheard of at the moment in normal pvp matches just makes it look like a fabricated result even more.

Hopefully I’m wrong and I’m sorry if that’s the case. I guess it will be up to Anet to check.

Your questions are not relevant. What does my class and stats have anything to do with getting hit with a 20K crit with a skill from another class?

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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We could use some more info. What class were you playing, which stats were you using, etc. It would really help instead of “I got critted for exactly 20k here’s a cropped image to prove it”. No offense. I hope you realize how suspicious this looks.

The fact that flame gun can do 20K crit damage would have nothing to do with my class and or stats. The most important thing would have been what flame gun build was being used. The image is cropped to not include the other player’s name. As I said I’m happy for Anet to look into this, because this looks broken to me. Why it is doing so much damage, I have no absolutely no idea, but maybe a warr who knows this build could tell you.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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because he said something to the effect of…take that you (blank).

I would say that as well if some ez mode class get instagib reckt by trash class lol.

The point was he knew he was going to do a 1 shot downed hit, and since when is warr trash.

I highly suggest you stop embarassing yourself now lol. How many games of pvp have you even played?

5504 games at this moment.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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@lighter.2708. Stalking someone in-game with your friend and abusing them because they don’t agree with you in the forum is not on. You’ve both been reported. Grow up.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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because he said something to the effect of…take that you (blank).

I would say that as well if some ez mode class get instagib reckt by trash class lol.

The point was he knew he was going to do a 1 shot downed hit, and since when is warr trash.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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I don’t get why people are having trouble believing this is true, I’ve provided evidence which is obviously not doctored. The attacker obviously knew this was going to happen because he said something to the effect of…take that you (blank). So either some warrs are pretending they don’t know and are trying to protect a broken mechanic for their own gain or most do not know it exists. But I assure you this was taken from an unranked sPvP match.

I really have nothing more to add. If Anet want to check it out, I’m pretty sure they have access to chat logs and poss combat logs for my main character. I’m happy for them to pull them out and examine them..

You got to be kidding right?

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Seriously guys, they had to tone down the noise from skill effects as this was causing severe class imbalance. Some classes were causing more noise than others. What the!

visual noise, which is a serious problem actually :p

Surely not more serious than having massive unfixed class problems.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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Dno buddy show full screen ?

Because for now, it’s kinda weak to show sheer numbers, i can achieve the same on www against some upscaled thief w/o armor, while have revenant stacking buffs on me.

Or it could be taken during Beta.

So yeah, kinda moot point. Bad troll is bad.

Anyway you can delete the rifle from the game or nerf it to hell, i won’t cry.

Well I didn’t have the a video recorder running. Why would I. Full screen would prove nothing as I took the pic after the event. The situation was I just initiated ranged combat with a DH in a match, straight after starting the fight I got hit from something off screen and I was downed from almost full health, checked the log and what I saw is in the pic posted. Note volley is also critting for over 4K.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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You know, when I made that [YOLO] Gunflame thread in the warrior forums, it was meant to be a fun gimmick for the Warrior that at least gave them an option in an SPvP team, as it does a pretty stellar job against complete nubs.

What I didn’t expect were tears. Bravo, I haven’t laughed so hard in a while.

Well most of the tears in the PvP forum have been from some warrs saying their class is not viable. But that aside, I don’t think any intelligent person would think one shot 20K insta kill skills are at all balanced or needed.

You got to be kidding right?

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Seriously guys, they had to tone down the noise from skill effects as this was causing severe class imbalance. Some classes were causing more noise than others. What the!

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ANET Warriors are not easy mode

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Yes sure, anyone who doesn’t agree with you must be a troll. I’m going on my experiences in PvP, and all this nonsense that warrior is not viable is daft. I’m just not seeing that at all. A lot of warrs are upset that other classes can now compete with them, and are asking devs to buff them so they can be king again. What they are really asking for is an advantage over other classes like in the good ‘ol dayz. The real issue is the devs didn’t really give them a new game changing elite mechanic. But saying warrs are not viable is false.

Either you are trolling or being a complete ignorant. The state of warrior is the worst a class in Gw2 has ever been. Literally you can count on your fingers how many warriors you face on daily basis (excluding hot joins obviously) and being one of the most popular class, don’t you think more players would’ve played warrior if they were equal in abilities?

I’m guessing most warrs are playing DH now because it is better, rather than warr is unviable, so going from one easy to play powerful class to another that is even more so isn’t such a big jump. When DH get nerfs (if ever) I guarantee you they’ll be back like a biblical plague of locusts.

Warrior 20K Gun flame hit, really??

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Mes thinks gun flame is a bit broken with 20K hits don’t you think.

Since no one believes these statements without a pic, find it below. If anyone is wondering why I got hit twice by this, it is because the first one downed me (I usually have 21K health) and 2nd one was when I was downed. Note: the player who did this then started to boast how good he was.

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Yes sure, anyone who doesn’t agree with you must be a troll. I’m going on my experiences in PvP, and all this nonsense that warrior is not viable is daft. I’m just not seeing that at all. A lot of warrs are upset that other classes can now compete with them, and are asking devs to buff them so they can be king again. What they are really asking for is an advantage over other classes like in the good ‘ol dayz. The real issue is the devs didn’t really give them a new game changing elite mechanic. But saying warrs are not viable is false.

ANET Warriors are not easy mode

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Is this a troll thread?
Warrior is one of the simplest classes to play in GW2.
Have you tried one of the kick@ss Rifle/GS builds that have been
reking in PvP lately?
The way I see it,99% of the Warriors are so bad,and so ignorant of their
opponents,and so used to be invincible and op,that they never really got
to learn to play the game.They were just carried by the class.
And now they wipe the floor because they simply can’t jump into the
enemy and go yolo,until everything around them is dead.
When was Warrior hard to play?
And no mitigation or passives….are we talking about the same class here?
I play a Warrior,and it has as much mitigation and passives as any other class.

One of the few honest posts in all these ridiculous warrior are not viable threads. +1

ANET Warriors are not easy mode

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Warrior is the only class that I see win 2v1s on a regular basis in PvP. Win as in kill the other 2 players. They really aren’t weak. I think people are annoyed because the elite didn’t buff them so they stay at the very top of the pile.

spvp where's the balance?

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There is more class imbalance now than at any other point in GW2 history, and the silence is deafening.

Chronomancer PVE - Inspiration or Domination?

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In PvE I find you can get away with pretty much anything with Chrono. If you are doing PvE where you are getting focused go with Inspiration, otherwise domination. Personally I find Dom and inspiration together are generally good if you need condi cleansing.