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Not sure why you think that completing a short questline that takes a couple of hours tops should reward you with an item that costs a couple of hundred gold to obtain otherwise.

But it doesn’t take only a couple of hours. Not for the vast majority of players. Only if you sink huge amounts of gold into it and that’s not what most people have.

It’s a wall for those still busy with crafting ascended equipment.

And most of the precursors cost less on the tp because of precursor journeys.

But not that much. Dawn for example hovered around 700g since HoT launch.

And I think people who complete those collections just for the AP are a very small minority in the player base.

Anyway, it’s just my opinion on the topic. I don’t think the grind is doing much good here. The collections are fun, the insane crafting in between is not IMO. I myself stopped at those steps even though I find the rest of the scavenger hunt enjoyable.

The couple of hours timeframe to complete the quest was disregarding the gold cost, as that was the suggestion (to remove to mat/gold sink). If that wouldnt be there anymore, you could easily craft a precursor via the journeys in a couple of hours.

This wouldnt only destroy the recursor market, it would also remove another big sink for rare/exotic weapons because nobody would forge precursors anymore. That would lead to even more rare and exotic weapons being salvaged, destroying the ecto market even further than it already is.

T5 common and fine mats would also loose a big sink and might reach vendor value.

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Precursor Crafting

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I think most people are turned off by this (example for the Sunrise T2 collection): https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sunrise_II:_The_Perfected_Daysword

It’s not a scavenger hunt, but pure farming. Either materials or gold.

I like the precursor collections a lot and actually started all of them just for fun. But every single one of them, except for the underwater collections, is more or less stuck on Tier 2 collection or the Tier 1 experiment. The value of materials needed is just insane.

I’d also vote for completely removing this part or reducing the grind to the level of the underwater precursors and making them account bound. It’s not that the legendary that follows is any cheaper.

For the one legendary I have, I just bought the precursor, because the collection stopped being fun.

Not sure why you think that completing a short questline that takes a couple of hours tops should reward you with an item that costs a couple of hundred gold to obtain otherwise.

And most of the precursors cost less on the tp because of precursor journeys.

People completed those to get the AP associated with them but had no need for the precursor itself, so they sell them for less than the actual costs on the tp.

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Yall make me smile.

The important thing to realize is that precursors are not legendary, they are the items that lead to legendaries. Which legendary crafting is a time sync, considering you are paying for mainly a skin. Ascended weapons are the same statistically.

A precursor is overvalued because we made them that way, truth is, these crafting quest should have been set up as alternatives for truly crafting legendaries, not for precursors. Do the math, in 1 hour, you could potentially earn at least 2 gold from events, plus 2 gold daily. So potentially 10 gold a day x 10 days is 100 gold. Thats saying you play 4-5 hours.

Pvp for first tier crafting costs you 200 of pvp and wvw currency. I earned 2 currency for pvp in about 1 hours playtime. To be honest, Id rather farm gold and just buy the shritting precursor at this point. 2 currency an hour means 100 hours, or 20 days at 5 hours a day and that is just the pvp requirement.

I do not mind it having a pvp requirement or a wvw requirement, but its ridiculously off par to the reward you get, a tier 1 exotic.

The problem with this analysis is that you can earn money much much faster now, People who run Tarir multimap or people who run Fractal dailies, or even people who farm the Silverwastes can make a lot more than ten gold in 4-5 hours.

You can make 10 gold in an hour and a half doing T4 fractals. There are a lot of ways to make money nowadays. Even farming wood and metal on alts can make you quite a bit of money.

Precursor crafting was meant to get an alternate route to getting a precursor to people who didn’t want to buy it on the trading post and didn’t want to depend on the RNG of the forge. People like me.

To me, precursor quests are content. The mystic forge and trading post aren’t.

The problem with his analysis is that he is complaining about having to do pvp to earn 200 shards of glory, while 200 shards cost 62s overall on the tp. He could do his dailies in 15 min, take the 2g and buy enough shards of glory for 3 precursors.

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Mystic Coins 1 gold each

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Actually, I’m more than satisfied. Besides, for a company that has taken a hands off approach to the TP, it’s pretty funny they would give anyone the impression they will do something about this considering they already make MC’s available to every player for nothing by doing nothing. I can’t wait to see their solution actually, just to see if it makes MC’s cost even more than they do now. That would be hilarious. I can see it now “we are increasing the number of MC you get from your login reward by X” … how people would still QQ.

I agree, dont know why people think Anet will do anything about it after MOB said:

So we’re watching them closely but not taking action at this time.

And if they watched them as closely as I did, they would have seen that nothing much has changed since Mike´s answer.

A small spike in price, when Wintersday was released, which was expected due to Winters Presence and that small spike after the buy out, which didnt even last a day.

Apart from that, prices and supply are pretty much the same as in November, so no need to expect a change.

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I’m not sure why people think they shouldn’t be 1g. Just because they weren’t worth anything 4years ago doesn’t mean that’s the price they should be forever. What if they were 5g each? 1g wouldn’t sound so bad.

This is such a non argument. It can just as easily be turned around and I could say

“I’m not sure why people think they should be 1 gold.”

Do you see how weak that is as an argument?

I think they should be 1g because Anet published its intent to reward players more for daily log ins in this blog post.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/introducing-the-new-daily-achievement-system/

As MCs has their primary source through daily login rewards, I find it only logical that the high gold value is intended.

That’s a 2 year old post, its no longer relevant to the game as it stands now. And even if MC were 1 silver each, over the course of a month daily login rewards are still very rewarding considering you don’t have to do anything to get them. Laurels, tomes, transmutation charges, MC, mats, exotic gear, luck. Its not as if daily login rewards only consist of MC.

@Justine – I apologize for misunderstanding what you wrote.

Its highly relevant because Anet explained why they want Mystic Coins to be more valuable.
And they recently renewed their stance during the AMA that they dont have a problem with the current value of mystic coins, so I dont know why people expect them to change anything.
How much can you sell Laurels, tomes, transmutation charges, luck, mats and the exotic gear for on the tp, btw?
And how did any of those those rewards gain value since introduction of the login rewards?

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Well this thread is over a month old and still getting new posts fairly regularly. I think its safe to say that a lot of people are still not satisfied with MC in terms of how you acquire them vs how many you need for crafting

Just because someone is posting in this thread doesnt neccessarily mean that they arent satisfied with the current value and supply of Mystic Coins.

I am fine with it because they reward loyal players and there is nothing wrong with that.
If someone thinks they dont earn MCs fast enough, Anet recently gave you 2 extra gold for completing your dailies, which enables you to buy 2 more Mcs per day for current prices, basically giving you the opportunity to get 60 more MCs per month without any additional work.

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I’m not sure why people think they shouldn’t be 1g. Just because they weren’t worth anything 4years ago doesn’t mean that’s the price they should be forever. What if they were 5g each? 1g wouldn’t sound so bad.

This is such a non argument. It can just as easily be turned around and I could say

“I’m not sure why people think they should be 1 gold.”

Do you see how weak that is as an argument?

I think they should be 1g because Anet published its intent to reward players more for daily log ins in this blog post.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/introducing-the-new-daily-achievement-system/

As MCs has their primary source through daily login rewards, I find it only logical that the high gold value is intended.

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The buy out of MCs last week was a prime example of how the player base is setting the prices. Without Anet tinkering on the faucets and sinks, 2 players decided to buy 30k MCs off the market for elevated prices. Unfortunately, they were the only ones wanting to pay those high prices.

Unfortunately ? Did I sense a shadow of regret in this statement?
Still I understand that in GW2 we have very few players wanting to pay those prices. But this does not mean we don’t have players needing the coins. But simply don’t wanting to pay those high prices.
But, again, not the players set-up the prices. As long as the supply is controlled by ANet we cannot say that the prices are set-up by the players.
Let’s take the following case: Let’s suppose the MC supplied bu ANet on the game may cover only a 10% of the real needs, what will happen? Well, the prices will find an equilibrium point and will slightly fluctuate around that point. Any speculator intervention will make the prices to spike and after that to slowly go back to the equilibrium point. Can we speak about prices set-up by players?
It seems more that a price the players are forced to pay and not a price set-up by players.
Is exactly what happens now. With one exception – the price of the MC is not at an equilibrium point. It continues to raise.
Also, 30 players working a new generation legendary can very easy wipe the supply of MC from TP. Without any malicious intention.

As a note: John Smith said that the quantity of MC ingame is far greater than the MC being used. Well, at the beginning of the game a lot of MC were supplied to the players. How this huge quantity can help a new starter – playing for 3 or 4 months to make a legendary? Some may say that 3 or 4 months is not enough time spent ingame to aim at a legendary – I think this is false. Because ANet expect us to spend money (real money) ingame starting with the first day. And not to wait 6-7-8 months before doing that.

Again, Anet doesnt supply and destroy mystic coins, the players do it. IF a player decides not to log in anymore, he wont supply the economy with MCs, even though Anet did everything to set him up with that ability.

Anet also cant force someone to destroy mystic coins by crafting/forging items or upgrading their guild hall. Its always a conscious choice of the player, the same goes for his evaluation of mystic coins and at which price they are willing to sell and buy them.

Of course there are players that dont want to pay 1g for a mystic coins. They have two choices: either earn them themselves over a long period of time or give up on whatever they needed them for. But if they give up on it, they wont sell their excess MCs for less than 1g just because they think MCs should be cheaper. So I dont think its fair from them to blame other players who dont sell their MCs for less either.

The price for Coins is 1g because that is what players are willing to pay for it. And the current prices isnt only affected by the supply and demand of MCs but the average amount of gold a player earns.

Anet will probably add another faucet in the future, so the supply will be a bit more elastic than it actually is. But I dont think that this will neccessarily mean that people will farm it and the price will get lower.

To give an example: They introduce new events, where a random place of power is getting attacked. The players have to defend it for 6 minutes and as a reward, they earn one mystic coin by interacting with the place of power afterwards. These events only spawn once every hour, so 24 times a day.

So if a player is doing 5 of these events, he earns 5 coins with 30 minutes playtime.

But most players will be able to earn more gold in 30 minutes straight gameplay doing another farm and will opt for that and then pay the 1g per coin on the tp.

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Don’t tell me the players set-up the prices – it is false. The prices are driven by supply and demand. We know that in this moment the demand is high. And the supply is controlled by ANet. Conclusion? Who set-up the prices?
Alooo! Mr. Smith? What you said about the wrong ANet behavior to set-up the values of the materials on TP?

The buy out of MCs last week was a prime example of how the player base is setting the prices. Without Anet tinkering on the faucets and sinks, 2 players decided to buy 30k MCs off the market for elevated prices. Unfortunately, they were the only ones wanting to pay those high prices.

Supply and prices were back to pre-buyout values within 12-24 hours.

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Whats the differance in the game of need and want, and whats the differance between need right now , and want right now.
How long can someone put something in their bank before they are deemed to not need it, and therefore MUST sell it on the TP.

As a rule of thumb: Once you have more MC than bloodstone dust, you should start to get rid of your excess coins.

Unless you are a lvl 500 chef.

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PS…very happy I didn’t make top stats

Also happy you didnt make top stats! ;D

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Shame on Anet. They changed the way to get those sigils just to prolong the process to get this skin in order to keep players in the game even longer. Imo it’s a dishonest way and a big middle finger to all those who started already in 2015 and now getting kittened in 2016.

No, they changed the way to get them to drain the glut on the market. Another case of ANet overreacting to the economy. Instead of just lowering the incoming supply they removed it completely.

To be fair, the only direct faucets of superior runes and sigils that were left Wintersday 2015, were the personalized wintersday gifts. in 2014, they also dropped directly from the Giant Wintersday Gifts, the Cold Weather Conqueror Kits/selection and the pvp reward track. Those faucets got turned off 13 months ago already.

If the decision to make the minor sigils from the festival vendor the only faucet for the superior ones (through upgrading in the forge) was a conscious one and not an oversight, I think it says alot about Anets intention of what they want to do with mystic coins.

Off course its hard to say, how much sigils have actually been consumed this wintersday, for the skin or the star of gratitude. But to give you some perspective: I sold around 18k superior sigils this wintersday, which would take 360k mystic coins to forge, if it wasnt covered by old supply from 2 years ago. Thats 20 times the supply of mystic coins on the tp atm.

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Thanks. That’s basically what I was wondering about. Just wanted to to see someone else’s thoughts on things.

Regarding Mystic Coins, you might find some interesting info being published soon on reddit. Just a hunch.

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Snip.

I know we don’t see eye to eye, but I was curious to your take on the semi-recent laissez faire stance on the economy?

I won’t reply, rebut, or anything. I’m just interested.

Maybe you want to be a bit more specific what you mean because I am not sure wether we both agree on which parts of the economy/markets are seeing a laissez faire stance.

On the common topics atm, I would say i prefer mystic coins at 1g value maybe even higher. Its a great way to reward loyal player who log in on a daily basis and their requirements for luxury items are quite balanced. I wouldnt be surprised, if Anet wont make any significant chances in the future but they might add smaller faucets, like they have recently done with the drops from fractals. These small faucets will provide a little more flexibility to players in their ways of earning them directly, besides daily log ins, but wont make too much of an impact on the price, which i expect to gradually rise higher. And thats fine, in my opinion, for the most part. But What they should adress are the older recipes that call for mystic coins, which were designed and balanced when there was an overabundance of coins, with the wintersday runes and sigils being the prime example. I am quite disappointed that Anet basically took out the last real seasonal faucet by removing them from the loot table of the personalized wintersday gift this year. The upgrade recipe, which requires 20 mc for the exotic sigil, is real bad design and should have been adjusted before wintersday. From a general perspective, I can live with the average price of 5-6g during this wintersday for the sigil, if it was only used for Winters Presence, as drinks became much cheaper and offset the price rise of the sigils on the shopping list. But one sigil is also needed to complete the orphan questline to get the star of gratitude. And that is really bad design, especially, if the sigils should rise to forging value (of 20g) at some point before next wintersday. That Orphan questline was designed to take a couple of days or a week to complete, so why ask for an item on the fourth day, that requires you to farm 20 mystic coins to forge it?

I am pretty sure this was an oversight and they just decided not to hotfix it because they estimated that there is enough oversuply of runes and sigils left from previous years to cover demand. The next howler might come tomorrow, or a little later, once people realize that you also need 4 sigils of mischief (exotic) to craft the chaos gun.

If we would have run out of sigils during wintersday, we still would have the chance to forge more from scratch but once the Festival vendor goes on a 11 month sabbatical tomorrow, we wont be able to buy new minor sigils anymore.

I doubt that the precursor crafting of the chaos gun will actually create enough demand for the sigils that we might run out of them or it reaches a higher price of its forging value but it still is bad design.

Precursor crafting represents some prime content from HoT and should be available year round without restrictions. Making an item an requirement for one of the crafting processes, that only drops during 6 weeks of the year is fluffy kitten.

And yeah, finally, t6 leather needs adjustment, badly. More than silk ever needed tinkering with. The problem is, there is no easy fix and to find a proper balance, you need to adress cloth a well as their supply and demand is so dependant on each other.

But what I take out of this topic is that evil flippers who hold on to their huge supply of t6 leather in order to raise the value arent really the problem, like so many always claim.

The supply OP bought 2 years ago for copper value, would probably have been sold to a vendor and therefore destroyed, if he (and others like him) wouldnt have put in buy orders or buy up large amounts of the supply. So if he wouldnt have done it, all that leather would have been gone way before people needed it.

And now here he is, back to game, with an account full of leather to add supply, basically doing what the player base wants anet to do: Open the faucet. It also contradicts the myth that players like him are waiting out on higher prices, as he mentioned that he is basically trying to sell as fast as possible (without filling to much buy orders at once, I assume). And I would also presume, that it wouldnt have mattered, at which point in the last 12 months he would have come back, he would have been as happy a camper as he is now, regardless, wether the price of t6 squares was 10s, 30s or 50s. We would have done the same as he is doing right now, trying to sell most of his leather at the current rate.

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Concrats to you! Would be interesting to see, how long it takes for you to sell it.

However, I am pretty sure that Anet takes into account wether an account is active or not while calculating the overall supply in the economy. I think either John SMith or Izzy mentioned it in the AMA 2 months ago.

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The other reason they are so expensive is because Essence of Mischief is also used to make Chaos Gun. Which so happens to be a precursor for Quip. That is why they are so expensive. Why Anet decided to use two of the same Sigils on two different items, I’ll never know. It’s not like they don’t have tons of other Sigils as options. Changing the requirement for the Winter’s Presence would have been the better move.

Thats a different Essence of Mischief though than the one used for Winters PResence. The Essence for Chaos Gun only needs 4 sigils instead of 50.
And considering that the Chaos Gun is traded around 200g on the tp and the forging costs of the chaos gun are more than double than that, I doubt that many players are actually forging it to make this a mayor sink for the sigils.

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Wanze has offered a plausible reason why such items might be listed and sell, although not why there’s a persistent offer (since, obviously, in Wanze’s scenario, the item would list and sell within the same day if not the same minute).

Ha, you are right, I actually had a blunder, which might end up saving me the current listing fee of 389g.

When I decided to list it, I somehow thought that I would have to list it from my alt account in order to receive the gold on my main. That is of course wrong and I actually have to list it from my main account in order to get the gold to it.

I mentioned in my last post (also edited now) that I still would have to transfer the item by mail to my alt account anyways, so I was expecting to lose the listing fee anyways.

So when i wanted to list it, I thought I had to mail it to my alt first in order for my gold transfer scheme to work. But I couldnt be bothered to look for my login details for that account. I would have needed to boot up my old hard drive and OS of my old laptop via my new laptop, which means rebooting it. This also might sound stupid to most players but I rather would have lost those 389g on the listing fee than having to reboot my computer and log into my alt account.

I already mentioned that I probably wouldnt start to use that item to transfer gold to my main for another couple of months. But I wanted to use that time to check out the market for this item and see how the community reacts to a high listing for a relatively useless item like this, either through discussion like here or reddit or on the tp itself by the evolution of buy orders and sell listings over a longer period of time.

I was aware of the off chance that some clown comes around and undercuts my listing by a copper or even a great margin and that chance would get bigger over time, the longer my listing is up. But as I was planning to take the listing down anyways, if I decided to start transfering gold at some point in the future (to send it to my alt), I didnt really care about, if somebody wanted to troll me with an undercut.

I would just undercut him again and he will have the great pleasure to see his listing being undercut once a week or so and that listing selling shortly after.

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OMG it is 9 Gold now, please add a source bk!!

we are 4 weeks into wintersday, if they add a faucet now, it will do more damage than leaving it as it is. Imagine how all the players would feel that had to buy their sigils in the last 4 weeks for these prices.

They wont change anything, at least not this wintersday.

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And finally, there is a 3rd functionality, which is the real reason, why I listed it for such a high price.

Then this item can also be used to legally transfer gold between accounts. For example, I have 3 personal accounts, my main account and 2 trading accounts which I used to use for research purposes that required plenty of logistics, like mass salvaging, forging, crafting, opening containers etc. Later on, I used them for trading in certain markets and bulk trading or just for storage. Each account has 3 fully upgraded storage guilds and my 2 trading accounts probably have each a worth between 50-100k gold. Transferring huge amounts of gold between accounts is slow due to the 500g limit per week. Now I havent really logged into my 2 alt accounts in over half a year (no time) and I am thinking of maybe starting to liquidize their assets this year and transferring the gold to my main account. I estimate that I could probably sell items worth 5k gold every week from each account with around 1 hour of trading per day (and without crashing too much markets). That would mean I would have to transfer around 10k gold per week to my main account? So how do i do that?

The safe way over the guild banks would only mean i could pick up 26k gold per year for the next fistful of years. I could do it by sending valuable items that I buy with my alt accounts, mail them to my main and then sell. This would mean that I lose 15% fees and taxes anyways and I would buy and sell to different players, not myself. Thats basically flipping the item meaning I would need to flip items worth 10k gold per week and on top of that, would need to mail every single item once. That doesnt sound very appealing to me considering I flipped items worth 9k gold within the last 3 months.

With the ghostly spineguard, I can transfer 10k gold instantly, without restrictions and a base 1500g fee. This might seem alot to most people but it would enable me to extract 170k gold within 20 weeks instead of 200k gold over the next 400 weeks.

So I understand that you might only bid a couple of silver for this item because thats what its worth to you. But for me it would be worth significantly more because it enables me to accumulate 8k more gold per week for the next 20 weeks.

Ok, I see how YOU could use it to mail gold back and forth to yourself, but the point was that you said this thing would sell. It won’t sell, because no one but you would buy it, because it’s worthless.
Other than that, yeah pretty handy to send gold to your alt account. So how come it’s still on tp tho? XD

even, if I buy it with my alt account. its still a sale. There are multiple reasons I didnt do it yet. First of all, i wanted to see, if someone else will buy it. Thats also why i didnt list it for 10k gold. At 7777g, someone might still decide to buy it to flip it for 10k gold.

And then, I havent decided yet, wether I want to turn my alt accounts into gold. As I described, this will probably take several months of daily trading and I am not sure yet, if I have time for that. Because I would also have to sort through a very long pick up tab on both accounts, just picking it all up and getting an overview of what I have on hand will take 50 hours game time easily. I havent even started with that yet and I am not sure I will do that any time soon. So no need for me to buy it yet.

Edit: And I dont think that I said that this listing will definately sell (to someone else), I just ruled out that its impossible to sell for that price.

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And finally, there is a 3rd functionality, which is the real reason, why I listed it for such a high price.

Then this item can also be used to legally transfer gold between accounts. For example, I have 3 personal accounts, my main account and 2 trading accounts which I used to use for research purposes that required plenty of logistics, like mass salvaging, forging, crafting, opening containers etc. Later on, I used them for trading in certain markets and bulk trading or just for storage. Each account has 3 fully upgraded storage guilds and my 2 trading accounts probably have each a worth between 50-100k gold. Transferring huge amounts of gold between accounts is slow due to the 500g limit per week. Now I havent really logged into my 2 alt accounts in over half a year (no time) and I am thinking of maybe starting to liquidize their assets this year and transferring the gold to my main account. I estimate that I could probably sell items worth 5k gold every week from each account with around 1 hour of trading per day (and without crashing too much markets). That would mean I would have to transfer around 10k gold per week to my main account? So how do i do that?

The safe way over the guild banks would only mean i could pick up 26k gold per year for the next fistful of years. I could do it by sending valuable items that I buy with my alt accounts, mail them to my main and then sell. This would mean that I lose 15% fees and taxes anyways and I would buy and sell to different players, not myself. Thats basically flipping the item meaning I would need to flip items worth 10k gold per week and on top of that, would need to mail every single item once. That doesnt sound very appealing to me considering I flipped items worth 9k gold within the last 3 months.

With the ghostly spineguard, I can transfer 10k gold instantly, without restrictions and a base 1500g fee. This might seem alot to most people but it would enable me to extract 170k gold within 20 weeks instead of 200k gold over the next 400 weeks.

So I understand that you might only bid a couple of silver for this item because thats what its worth to you. But for me it would be worth significantly more because it enables me to accumulate 8k more gold per week for the next 20 weeks.

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Regardless of where it comes from, it’s a yellow rarity back item lol. Who in their right mind would buy a rare-quality item for 7,8k that is not a part of any collection, doesn’t give any achievements, no auras and has a pretty mediocre upgrade worth 38 silver. Get real.

Chak egg sac that costs 10k is the hardest item to get in game and gives an aura (and is exotic at least) so that could justify the price. But ghostly spineguard and that staff for such money? No way.

The only reason they are on tp is either trolling or goldselling. If you really think this will sell, you’re pretty naive. The only way this would ever happen is if some noob who knows nothing about the game (and somehow has thousands of gold) will buy it.

Just because something doesnt seem logical to you, doesnt mean that it wont happen.
You made it pretty clear that even the act of listing it for such a high price seems illogical to you, yet it happened anyways.

Listing any item is a bad idea and it stays that way. Until it is sold.

Regarding your functionality for value estimation of the item: Where do you base it on? Did you ever own one? How do you know that it doesnt give an aura and that it doesnt have a functionality that isnt documented? Maybe you can forge the 4 rare lower level ghostly spineguards into an Chak Egg or another infusion?

And maybe there is functionality in the rarity of the item that you probably dont value at all. First of all, people pay premium for rare kittens. For me, its irrational as well but they do. Heavy Bag of Coins is a prime example. Ever since they got discontinued in the BL chests 6 months after launch, they got traded for double-digit gold values even though all they do is give you 1.5g at the most and a couple of silver on average. not even a year ago, I made a couple of hundred gold profit per month flipping them.

Then its also possible for an RMT to purchase it for gold transfers, I would lie, if I said that I didnt consider this and it definately influenced my decision. However, I never was and never will be involved in RMT. I have no influence on who buys my listings and what they use it for, thats for Anet to figure out, not me. I just use the trading post as intended.

And finally, there is a 3rd functionality, which is the real reason, why I listed it for such a high price.

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what would happen is you losing gold to see your item sit 1 copper less then a gold buyer, that will make for kitten sure that the gold seller buy theirs instead of yours.

what do gold buyers have to do with this?

why else would you list a level 75 backpiece for 7000 gold if it was not to get a gold seller to buy it?
That you email with outside game ofcourse to tell what item and for how much, to hopefully launder the money that way.

Sounds like a fool proof strategy to scam some scammers out of tons of gold and you should definately spend the 375g listing fee to prove that you are right.

It will be my pleasure to undercut you again. Well lets not get ahead of ourselves. You dont have that item anyways and probably not even the listing fee.

To answer your first question: I did it because i can. And I think that item is worth 7777g and someone else will agree eventually and buy it.

How would you scam them out of money mate?

Cant see anyone buying ascalonian catacombs/frozen maw drop for close to 8k gold ever

You just claimed this is a scheme between the item seller and some RMT to transfer illicit gold and now you claim that nobody will buy it. What is it?

And where exactly does the svanir shaman drop it? is it a direct drop from him or does it drop from the icy strongbox? If its from the icy strongbox, wouldnt it be farmable from every svanir champ? And if its a direct drop,….wait, we still get direct drops from champs?

And how do you even confirm two different sources from an item that only ever had a maximum of 2 listings on the tp since it got introduced? Let me guess, you read it on the internet?

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what would happen is you losing gold to see your item sit 1 copper less then a gold buyer, that will make for kitten sure that the gold seller buy theirs instead of yours.

what do gold buyers have to do with this?

why else would you list a level 75 backpiece for 7000 gold if it was not to get a gold seller to buy it?
That you email with outside game ofcourse to tell what item and for how much, to hopefully launder the money that way.

Sounds like a fool proof strategy to scam some scammers out of tons of gold and you should definately spend the 375g listing fee to prove that you are right.

It will be my pleasure to undercut you again. Well lets not get ahead of ourselves. You dont have that item anyways and probably not even the listing fee.

To answer your first question: I did it because i can. And I think that item is worth 7777g and someone else will agree eventually and buy it.

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Solution – Don’t buy the sigils now. You have a few options. Put in the buy order for the price you want to pay and wait for the price to go down and they get filled. Or you can wait for a new source of these sigils to be introduced (which probably won’t happen until next year at the earliest, if ever) and gather them yourself

What definately will happen is that as soon as wintersday is over, even the last source of the sigils will disappear because you wont be able to buy the minor sigils of the Charity Corps Seraph anymore, so forging superior sigils can only be done with the current supply of the major and minor ones. The 640 major sigils that are still listed will make 160 more superior ones and the 36k minor sigils are enough to craft another 1600 exotic sigils.

And the 28k minor sigils listed at 104 copper atm are all my listings and I might relist them for a couple of silver, if I feel like it.

Usually I would also assume that the prices of the runes and sigils will crash after wintersday, just like last year. However, there are some differences compared to last year.

Because a year ago, people werent sure, wether the skin could still be crafted after wintersday until Anet confirmed this later during wintersday. So my guess is that most players needing the runes and sigils bought it very early on during wintersday as their price of 30s wasnt really an issue for most and the 10k drinks were the big problem that slowed peoples progress way into 2016.

If you have a look at the drink prices over the last year, you will see that their price gradually increased between wintersday 15 to 16.

But now the tables are turned and most people wont have as much problems to get the drinks but the sigils before wintersday is over. So I am not sure, wether we will see a similar crash of sigil prices as we have seen last year.

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what would happen is you losing gold to see your item sit 1 copper less then a gold buyer, that will make for kitten sure that the gold seller buy theirs instead of yours.

what do gold buyers have to do with this?

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https://www.gw2tp.com/item/37629-staff?full=1

https://www.gw2tp.com/item/46449-ghostly-spineguard

Im starting to think i should keep some of the similar items i randomly find in the world and when something like this happends i just put my item for sale at 1 copper less and see what happends ..

The problem is that the similar items you randomly find in the world arent the ones you linked.

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Chef crafting, OR: Killing my Toon

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they gave you the option to sell it on the tp

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thats the limit

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umm ANET you forgot something.

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Looking at the charts for both the rune and sigil it’s my impression that players simply did not take advantage of the low prices for both before Wintersday started. It’s not like this was an unknown quantity, the collection for the shoulder piece hadn’t changed and you could craft the gifts off season.

Did players honestly think the price was going to drop below the 25-30s each once Wintersday started, that was last year’s price.

One possible positive outcome is since fewer players are able to progress with the gifts, the drinks are now extremely cheap. It’s quite possible that overall the cost of Winter’s Presence is actually cheaper now than before Wintersday started.

If the market got flooded with new sigil and runes like last year then yeah, the price would drop; the price of drinks halved after all, why shouldn’t the price of sigils and runes? But arena net removed them as drops for one reason or another so the price rose instead.

But the market didnt get flooded last year because they already took the superior runes and sigils off the wintersday gift loot table and the pvp reward track last year. Just nobody cried about that fact because they only contributed 30g to the overall costs of WP.

Just to clarify, by last year I mean wintersday 2015 when you could still get them from the personalised gifts.

True, I forgot the personalized gifts.

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But the market didnt get flooded last year because they already took the superior runes and sigils off the wintersday gift loot table and the pvp reward track last year. Just nobody cried about that fact because they only contributed 30g to the overall costs of WP.

Indeed, the original problem was relatively small, when viewed within the context of economic conditions at that time. It became much, much bigger because those conditions changed. And Anet didn’t bother to correct the situation. Most likely, because they (as usual) simply forgot about it.

Yeah, i totally agree. They should have reintroduced new supply apart from the forge recipe this year and my guess would also be that it was an overnight. I just didnt like the argument that was brought up by several posters who thought the community could expect them dropping because they also dropped last year, which isnt true.

They wont change anything this wintersday anymore, so the big question will be, if they will change it next wintersday. If no new faucet is introduced, they will most definately reach forging value in 12 months time.

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Looking at the charts for both the rune and sigil it’s my impression that players simply did not take advantage of the low prices for both before Wintersday started. It’s not like this was an unknown quantity, the collection for the shoulder piece hadn’t changed and you could craft the gifts off season.

Did players honestly think the price was going to drop below the 25-30s each once Wintersday started, that was last year’s price.

One possible positive outcome is since fewer players are able to progress with the gifts, the drinks are now extremely cheap. It’s quite possible that overall the cost of Winter’s Presence is actually cheaper now than before Wintersday started.

If the market got flooded with new sigil and runes like last year then yeah, the price would drop; the price of drinks halved after all, why shouldn’t the price of sigils and runes? But arena net removed them as drops for one reason or another so the price rose instead.

But the market didnt get flooded last year because they already took the superior runes and sigils off the wintersday gift loot table and the pvp reward track last year. Just nobody cried about that fact because they only contributed 30g to the overall costs of WP.

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It seriously allow you to list 900 thousand stuff? I was thinking there was going to be some kind of restriction after 1 thousand stacks or something. There is absolutely nothing preventing someone to speculate in this manner? I don’t understand how supply of some items are so low if that’s possible.

plenty of times, this kind of speculation actually helps in times of demand spikes. Taking the sigil of mischief for example, if some speculators wouldnt have put in buy orders in copper value during its first year of existance, alot more sigils would have been sold to vendor and ultimatively be destroyed. All those sigils that were bought during that time are probably the reason that the sigils are still way cheaper on the tp than their forging value.

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I dont think so. I have about 900k items listed on the tp atm. Searching your sell listings in the tp UI takes a bit longer though, as you have to click the load more button plenty of times…

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One could always fill one’s inventory, especially if one equips only 1 bag, then one would not be forced to accept any loot. Just walk away, and it ‘disappears’.

Good luck.

But I want to make money.

If you wanted to make money, you shouldnt sell your loot to buy orders but list them. That way, you spend 5-10% of your time to earn 20-30% more gold from loot.
I dont see the point why Anet should implement a system that saves you a couple of % of game time in order to achieve something that can already be achieved by existing systems.

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A question about Wintersday Presence pls

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yes

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I recommend waiting. The price will almost certainly drop as impatient buyers complete their collections and impatient speculators try to recoup some of their investment by unloading their over-supply.

Plus, I strongly suspect ANet will setup an actual source (even if it’s not a “faucet”).

I strongly suspected Anet to set up an actual source this year because contrary to popular belief, the decision to close all faucets (expect upgrading) for the superior wintersday runes and sigils wasnt taken this year but already at wintersday 2015, when they converted all tiers of previous wintersday gifts into the wintersay gifts we get now. The new wintersday gifts didnt have the conjurors kits or the runes and sigils on the drop table and they also disappeared from the pvp reward track last year, compared to 2014.
However, last year, nobody really complained about the fact that there arent any drop sources because there was enough supply in the economy to sustain the demand surge for the newly introduced winters presence and the big topic was the festive imbiber achi, not the non-existant new faucets for the runes and sigils.
On a macro-economic level, those runes and sigils had a way bigger impact last year compared to this year. After all, they spiked from 30 copper to 30 silver, which means 10k% ROI compared to the ROI of 1k% from 30s to 3g this wintersday.

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What do you need a cowboy outfit for in Tyria, considering there are no horses?

There’s a couple of possibilities. There are cows in Tyria. They can take the place of horses, as below. And then there’s always the gem store. Maybe a gemstore horse mount, like the second picture, below, to be sold with the cowboy armor.

Everybody knows that the common way of transporting cows in Tyria is catapulting them, then you waypoint to wherever it lands.

Concerning your 2nd picture you better follow your own suggestion from your signature.

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What do you need a cowboy outfit for in Tyria, considering there are no horses?

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I doubt they will change anything for this wintersday.

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Probably playing Hype Train Simulator 15 atm

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[Suggestion] Good spot for Snow Truffle farm

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My home instance would be a great spot for a snow truffle farm as well

just sayin´

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Having exclusive rewards per Gamemode is fine it shows what you did to accomplish it, now they need to make sure all Gamemodes have access to the same quality rewards, i.e. New Legendary Armor for WvW, PvP and possibly a way to craft Legendary Armor for PvE all with Different Skins so that they are distinguished by what they did. Game modes having monopolies on quality of rewards is a problem, Anet shows they are slowly fixing that issue with the latest PvP update, they just need to expand the effort

I agree. And granted, raiders will have a head start on legendary armor but I guess its still a long way to go until they actually release them and I wouldnt rule out that upon release of legendary armor, they may add additional ways to obtain it is well.

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You also need one sigil to finish the small orphan questline to obtain the star of gratitude. So new players, who havent done this in the years before, will find out on the 3rd day of the questline that they will need 20 MC to upgrade a sigil to give to sous chef seymur. Having to grind a month of login rewards to obtain these coins cant be intended design.

When it comes to making it yourself, that hasn’t changed. You’re not actually meant to do that however, as the recipe was only an alternative, designed as a sink at the time which I’m sure will never be adjusted. When the supply of sigils starts to dry, you can bet they will be brought back in. Even if it was 25g for that 1 sigil though, or a month of simply logging in, eaters are a luxury item and you have all year to prepare. Every casual I know has a stack of coins in their bank for example, left forgotten.

As for the 5 days, yes, I mixed up the two as I heard it somewhere else. If ArenaNet wanted another method though, this would have been a clear choice.

Players that just purchaed the game dont have the luxury of sitting on stacks of coins.
Personally, I profited a great deal from the rising prices for the runes and sigils, as I bought like 50-60k each a year ago for under 1s. But that doesnt change my opinion that the aquisition of those runes and sigils should have been reviewed and changed this year for the benefit of the mayority of the player base.

The fact that they arent obtainable anymore except the upgrade recipe for the forge makes it easier for traders like me to keep the price up on the tp, which is good for me but not so good for many other players.
If Anet would have introduced the runes and sigils as a drop from gifts, I would reckon that the price would have crashed soon after the patch. So I agree, adding them as a reward for finishing the 5 wintersday dailies would have been a great way to keep that market in check. As a trader, I only checked, if they drop from wintersday gifts. I completely disregarded the possibility of them dropping from something like meta rewards, which only add supply a couple of das after the patch, so I would have been caught off guard.

Another option might have been adding them back to the wintersday reward tracks.

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is this game still grindy on economy?

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Hello, last time I played GW2 there’s was heavy grind on in game money, I’m not a person who spends his/her entire week on pvp to get shiny rewards. so my question is: mobs still dropping 35-55 copper on max level? was also Trading post prices was insane was keep increasing like everyday

is this still valid?

thanks in advance

The value in mob drops has never been the coin; it’s always been the goods they drop — it’s easier than ever to salvage and sell. Plus you get login rewards and 2g per day just for doing 3 dailies. So it’s easier than ever to obtain basic exotic gear for your toons.

Obtaining shinier things is always more expensive and mileage varies, depending on what you want (some things are a lot cheaper, some are more expensive).

I’ve never found this game to be grindy for basics, especially for those not in a rush to get their fancy skins.

I think in the earlier years, coin drops from mobs made up a good portion of the loot value from mobs. But back then, gold was way harder to come by.

I remember farming sharks in SSC for scales, when that rediculous bonus on mf was active. I had gold find boosted as well and every 2nd or 3rd shark gave me around 1s in coin drops. This can add up pretty quick, if you are farming hundreds of mobs per hour.

However, I think Anet lowered the droprate for coin on mobs (or scratched it entirely) in the new zones. My guess would be that they have done that because some players build up a decent amount of gold find over the years and they saw newer players at too great a disadvantage. Kinda the same reason, they moved alot of item loot from direct drops from mobs to containers, so its not affected by magic find anymore.

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Why is something that you can only get via the market (or through upgrade shenanigans) a part of this, and in such great amounts?

The game was designed around using the trading post. Personal loot means everyone gets a little bit of everything, so you’re not intended to farm everything yourself. The sigil for example, everyone can get one every 5 days by doing the dailies, but how many people actually need them? The same goes for mystic coins – most people don’t use them, and that’s why ArenaNet didn’t want to intervene, because the only problem is that people aren’t selling.

Upgrading is done to give value to lesser materials.

This type of item, cosmetic effects, are intended to be expensive, like 1000g+, which is nothing to veteran players. Unless I missed something, going by the wiki, the skin currently costs ~780g, which is cheaper than last year’s 800~1000g. 10k drinks is less than half the cost of last year.

how does everybody get one sigil every 5 days through dailies?

Your argument that upgrading is done to give lesser materials more value is generally right but not in this case, as the lesser material, minor sigils and runes (even though tradable) can be purchased from a vendor.

I agree that cosmetic effects like winters presence should have a high price tag in general and should utilize MCs in higher amounts but WPs design is a bit over the top.
As mentioned, you already need 150 MC anyways, even if you disregard the runes and sigils. Thats a good amount imho, old legendaries need around 231 MC, new ones 481, unique MF weapons need between 10-100, Nightfury 250.
The crafting cost of WP are just so low atm (compared ot last year) because people are trading the runes ad sigils way under forging value. If you recalculate WP costs using superior runes and sigils upgraded from minor ones, you end up with 1650g (plus and extra 650k karma), which is in my opinion a little bit over the top, even for a fluff skin.

But even if we would agree that the crafting costs for WP would be fine, once players have to upgrade the runes and sigils themselves because the price on tp adjusted to their forging costs, its not the only purpose of these runes.

You also need one sigil to finish the small orphan questline to obtain the star of gratitude. So new players, who havent done this in the years before, will find out on the 3rd day of the questline that they will need 20 MC to upgrade a sigil to give to sous chef seymur. Having to grind a month of login rewards to obtain these coins cant be intended design.

However, if you are right and people obtain a sigil for finishing 5 wintersday dailies, you can disregard my last argument. But I have the suspicion that you might mix it up with the sigil of generosity.

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That is not a hoarder. Hoarders would never sell any of their stuff.

Stop derailing. HOARDER or TP FLIPPER is synonymous.

so why didnt you buy the runes and sigils when the hoarders/flippers did, for the same price they paid?

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The Minor Runes of Snowfall aren’t very expensive; you could promote them.

you need 6 MC to promote a minor rune to superior.
And 20 MC for each sigil.

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Wanze.8410

I dont blame flippers for the price hike on glacial fragments, I blame those scribes and decorators, who keep buying it at high prices.
Flippers dont destroy supply, consumers do.

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