Guild Wars 2

Sirbeaumerdier.3740:

I never look at others profession in dungeon. I will look at their level and achievement points if I don’t feel like babysitting but otherwise that is all.

Achievent points is the real deal!

lol…

Taku.6352:

We should see some new hairstyles in the near future. One of the NPCs in Silverwastes has a new hairstyle and that_shaman on reddit datamined new faces and hairstyles.

Ahh, cool! Now let’s hope there won’t be more ugly short/bald hair, especially for females lol

Any word on when they will be introduced?

coglin.1867:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Ropechef.6192:

if you read the reddit thread you will also see the link to the spreadsheet.

http://dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13987449-dps-estimates-for-each-professions-in-30s-battles

This is outdated. In no way at the moment a warrior’s dps is better than a ranger’s or an engi’s

Wait a second. You just berated me in a previous post and said….

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Those tests were made with meta builds, meta gear, and yes they are legit. If you don’t wanna believe it and delude yourself, go ahead, I’m not going to search for further proof. If you wanna do further research do it yourself. I just posted the truth. I couldn’t care less if you believe it or not.

Yet now you claim it is out dated and not factually accurate. Hypocrite much?

That is the same spread sheet in that thread I was referring too. What was the term you used for this situation? “Delude yourself” I think it was?

Right from the link you copy-pasted here: Posted Jul 22, 14 · OP · Last edited Jul 22, 14

At least check the numbers before posting drama stuff…

HHR LostProphet.4801:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

HHR LostProphet.4801:

sminkiottone.6972:

Try to remove all the crap like auto target and auto attack (ctrl + right mouse) and it will not lock you, sword is a very interesting weapon, with some practice it can be really enjoyable.

interesting = broken

Broken = L2p

L2P calling = stupidity. Do you know how or how good I play? Do you know anything about me? So who are you to judge my skills? I can handle sword, I still say it’s broken.
It’s broken because it offers few advantages at the expense of many disadvantages.

I know that when I started playing, I saw all the QQ about the Ranger best and most “hated” weapon. I could start QQ’ing as well straight away. I didn’t. Instead I listened to all the veteran ranger players that said with practice you can learn to melee every boss at the game with ranger sword.

Well guess what? I can now do it as well. After a few wipes in every boss, I know how they work, therefore I can pre-act even in those bosses where millisecs have a difference like in Archdiviner etc…

So no, the sword is not broken, it’s just different, and it’s what makes the game with a ranger more fun.

Again, “those that can, do. Those that can’t, complain.”

When you see you’ve seen everything…

What’s next? Dual shield wielding Guardians?

I think Ranger LB #4 (point blank shot) should have it’s animation changed to a big visible “L2P” above your enemy’s character head

quaniesan.8497:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

coglin.1867:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

Prove it. Because I think you assuming, without knowing. I have participated in DPS test in the past. Posted videos on the matter. My experience with DPS says other wise.

thief
Ele
Engineer
Ranger
Warrior
Guardian
Mesmer
Necro

These are the dps rankings after the september ballance update.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2gol18/dps_ranking/

I think you are really high with that ranking.

Yes, seems you know better than people who know all classes, hold several world speed records and have done an actual dps test. We are sorry.

Ropechef.6192:

if you read the reddit thread you will also see the link to the spreadsheet.

http://dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13987449-dps-estimates-for-each-professions-in-30s-battles

This is outdated. In no way at the moment a warrior’s dps is better than a ranger’s or an engi’s

pdavis.8031:

OP = Over Populated.

Rangers are easy to play. Thats why so many people are running them now days.

Easy to play =/= Being effective.

coglin.1867:

Lazze.9870:

coglin.1867:

Your simply linking someone else’s unsupported claims. It is a very misguided attempt in my opinion.

That “someone” is Nike from DnT.

And?

That doesn’t change the fact that the linked thread has literally 0 damage numbers posted, no comparison of damage value output (because the thread has no damage numbers), as well as no explanation of how those damage numbers that are not posted were determined.

Those tests were made with meta builds, meta gear, and yes they are legit. If you don’t wanna believe it and delude yourself, go ahead, I’m not going to search for further proof. If you wanna do further research do it yourself. I just posted the truth. I couldn’t care less if you believe it or not.

Open world where you look only for yourself, I run this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjMqUyaBLWsw1ag9gadAcAjO3MoD8tFZs0JzkA-TBBXgAAK/C110r+zjSQA-e

If you give ranged weapons same damage with melee weapons with no penalties, you end up in situations where everyone is staying in ranged pewpewing from safety. Look how terrible games like RIFT are. In a raid vs raid encounter, eveyone is charging, to stop at 30m range from eachother and start pewpewing.

Now for PvE situations, we’ll never see ranged, because the current meta way to do dungs is stack in 1 spot and melee burst down everything, sadly. If players played dungeons the way they were designed to be played in the first place, we could see ranged classes, and other builds. But as I said before, none wants to spend 2 hours for a single dungeon. Bad design.

uri.6521:

The damage increase is 40% now on a 40 sec cooldown, i reduced both the damage and the cooldown to have the same damage increase over time.
But on the other side i dont see any movement speed nerf, since your pet has 99% chance in combat of having a movement speed condition, and by ignoring that, it can keep presure instead of just running crippled in circles for 10 seconds until the skill wears off.

Yeah and you are rigth, i only play ranger, i almost want to delete my other character sinche ranger is the only class i fell confortable playing.

Have you seen the pet’s run speed when traited agility training, using SotH, swiftness and Sic’em? You think movement conditions affect it?

Other than that, an induction to the skill is not needed, and the revealed duration is probably the only reason rangers using the skill in PvP/ WvW.

You just want to nerf it to the point of useless, because ? It already has no place in PvE, and your suggestion would make it useless in PvP as well. GG

uri.6521:

I would like to give an opinion about how sic em shpuld be:

Instead of being a 1500 range instant reveal, it should be more powerful, but less unavoidable by making it like this:

Cooldown: 20 seconds
Cast time: .75 seconds (same as using necromancer´s staff #1 skill)
No longer requires target and doesnt end by any means other than running out of time
Duration: 10 seconds
Type: Shout
Description: Order your pet to focus on targets , making in ignore movement reducing conditions and deal more damage. Targets hit by your pet reveal targets for the duration of the skill.
Ignores: Cripple,Chill and imobilize
Damage increase: 20%
Revealed: 3 seconds (doesnt stack, it only refreshes if you are hit multiple times bofore the revealed expires).

This both makes the skill less frustrating for thieves that can avoid the pet and makes this skill more usefull against non thiefes because it makes your pet much harder to avoid because of the movmement speed conditions ignoring, makes it synergize better with natures voice becauce of the lower cooldown etc etc.

So you just want to add an induction, nerf the damage by 20%, nerf the movement speed considerably, and nerf the reveal duration by 3 seconds.

You must play ranger a lot!

I kill players faster than this

Another update and no new hair. Come on, every race has options for LONG hair!

Even on female sylvari the only long hair option is a terrible dreadlock style ponytail…

Just look on this thread devs, some of the suggested styles are far better than what we have in-game at the moment.

coglin.1867:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

Prove it. Because I think you assuming, without knowing. I have participated in DPS test in the past. Posted videos on the matter. My experience with DPS says other wise.

thief
Ele
Engineer
Ranger
Warrior
Guardian
Mesmer
Necro

These are the dps rankings after the september ballance update.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2gol18/dps_ranking/

Fluffball.8307:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

In fact I’d lower sic’em cooldown to 35-30 seconds.

I agree; right now Sic ‘Em is almost entirely unused outside of PvE. It doesn’t do enough for the cool down. If someone takes it, it’s usually for the BM effects and nothing to do with the anti-trolling stealth mechanics.

Tbh if the cd was 30 seconds, it could replace quick. zep. in PvE, in most cases. meaning you could use it twice in 60 secs window, one coupled with SotW, and one on its own.

Actually this is intresting, it would give the pet a good dps boost.

Domey.9804:

sometimes i can survive sic em and burn all my utilities and dodges, but is that fair?

It’s amazing to see that thieves actually believe that they should be able to survive in 1 V many situation, and still cry about it when ONLY 2 skills in the whole game on a considerable cooldown counter their “legit” stealth mechanic.

You are not supposed to survive when outnumbered. In 1v1 situation, if you can’t survive for 6 seconds without stealth, you need to change your build and learn how to actually play the game.

So yes Sic ‘em and Analyze is far from OP. In fact I’d lower sic’em cooldown to 35-30 seconds.

Wanderer.3248:

Warriors can use both, and they work completely differently. There isn’t any reason a rangers rifle couldn’t have a unique set of abilities.

We already have two short range weapons (shortbow and axe) that work quite differently.

Yeah so why waste class potentials on making a third one. (Which would also be against the lore since rifle has nothing to do with nature)

The most fitting weapon for rangers if Anet ever introduces new weapons to classes, is a staff. It could work as a support weapon using spirits powers/nature magic.

Wanderer.3248:

Call them Druids then. Or hunters, which they basically are.

And I don’t see Aragorn summoning spirits or using a pet either, so your example is totally invalid.

Each fantasy world has its own lore. In Middle earth 3rd age, rangers were dunedain protectors that were wandering the wild looking to protect those in need. He did not have a rifle either… Not sure what this has to do with GW2

Not sure why people need to compare real world facts with fantasy facts.

Engineers are not spending their time building golems in real life also, and thieves can’t hide in plain sight…

oxtred.7658:

Please stop saying necro dps is the lowest, for god’s sake. How can you make a rant post about people not understanding the game and still say necro’s flaws are in its dps is beyond me.

It’s a fact that necro’s dps is the lowest in game. Necros also do not have any unique buffs they can bring to the group. Sadly enough GW2 dungeons can be played in such a way that most dungeon mechanics do not come to play. When stacking together in one tiny spot and burst dps’ing everything is viable, there are going to be classes left out.

I don’t think the devs meant for this to happen when they designed the dungeons, but none wants to spend 2 hours killing trash mobs before reaching a boss.

So yes, sadly enough, in the current “meta” dungeon runs, a necromancer keeps the group behind.

Best group for speedclears in my opinion is Guard,Warr,Ele,Thief,Ranger.

Class importance order in normal (pug) dungs is:

Guardian
Thief (for stealth skipping)
Elementalist
Warior
Mesmer
Ranger
Engineer
Necro (Should not even be here as there’s no point taking a necro in PvE) (Thanks Anet…)

Coming soon™

Along with the new set of legendaries, mounts, and 3 breant new cult. armours.

Atherakhia.4086:

Guard’s only real use is to be used with Nature’s Voice, but even at that it’s kind of bad given the cast time and how dreadful the shout is base.

Protect Me probably should also be changed given the changes to Signets. Having both SoS and PM up could be a bit over the top and changing PM makes far more sense.

Protect Me: The Ranger, his pet, and up to 4 other targets receive protection for 4 seconds. 25 second cooldown. Instant Cast.

Guard changed to Intimidate: The Ranger, his pet, and up to 4 other targets receive Fury and Might. 25 second cooldown. Instant Cast.

Protect me has no reason to change. It is not useless, it can be used in pvp for more inv. time.

Also your suggestion to Guard would not make it worth slotting anyways. Plus we have that on warhorn skill.

Those two shouts are literally useless and no ranger will take them over other utilities for no reason. They may had their uses in the past (I doubt that about S&R but anyways), but at the moment they need rework.

Search and Rescue: Pet becomes invulnerable to ANY damage for the whole duration of the rez. Revives downed ally with double the speed of a player, or revives a dead ally with the normal downed speed. Cooldown reduced to 60secs. Range 1.2k

If I’m gonna waste a slot for a utility it should be worth it.

Guard: Probably renamed to Agression or something. Pet’s damaging abilities affect 5 targets. Cooldown remains the same as now (10 sec buff duration, 15s cooldown)

The skill will be actually usefull for trash fights.

Kahrgan.7401:

Honestly, im just tired of doing some hotjoins for fun, and running into 2-4 rangers on the same team all using LB #2 on me. One ability shouldn’t have such range, such dmg, and such a short cd.

I was all for buffing ranger… but not enabling everyone to hit LB #2 to win.

Translation: I can’t take it when 2 to 4 people on full glass gear/traits, are focusing on me using their biggest burst ability, when I’m grabbing my coffee and can’t evade it. Nerf it please!

Bloodyhell.8760:

Oh my….

the “meta” you’re taling about has passed from a lot of time… we’re in 2014… watch latest brazil video about dps ranger meta build to upgrade your poor ranger….

Not sure if… nvm…

This build is still meta for rangers and it will never change!

How many times have they said there will never be a petless option?

We all rolled rangers, which was the pet class of the game. We did not roll archers, marksmen or anything of the sort.

The pet is not going anywhere. Deal with it.

Sube Dai.8496:

oxtred.7658:

The meta is only about support, what the kitten are you saying?

The meta is max DPS plus support.

The meta is having 3k toughness, protect me and SoS, double bear and staying at 1.5k range.

L2P people!

HHR LostProphet.4801:

sminkiottone.6972:

Try to remove all the crap like auto target and auto attack (ctrl + right mouse) and it will not lock you, sword is a very interesting weapon, with some practice it can be really enjoyable.

interesting = broken

Broken = L2p

Yes, I love the sword auto chain. It gives the class a unique feeling and playstyle, and you actually have to learn how to use it. You can’t just spam 1 and you’re done. It’s probably the best thing of the class.

Sube Dai.8496:

If you are one of those rangers then you should try getting out of your comfort zone and see what it is like.

Lol no! Staying at 1.5k range is meta. If things go bad I still have knockback and double bear with protect me and signet of stone. (and signet of hunt to move faster since moving faster = pro)

I rek ppl!

Hyperion.4638:

Keep in mind when i say roaming server, i don’t mean a dead one, just a server that people roam much more than they zerg, i was thinking bronze league but maybe silver league is good too i am not sure anymore , also i want a server where zerg fights are max 15 people not 40 people… so please, leave suggestion rather than saying " you can still roam in gold league servers"

Aurora Glade has roamers and it’s well populated. Sure you wil find big zeergs in peak times (when you can avoid them and roam). Early in morning or late at night the main commander group wil not have more than 15 people usually.

I would suggest silver league server. I havn’t played bronze so can’t comment, but people saying that there are not many people for proper action. “Gold” league should be renamed to Skritt league, so as a non zergling I would not touch it.

Inb4 “dont tell me what to do” and “don’t tell me how to play”

Fair? yes I suppose….

Is hit and stealth (repeat till forever) fair?
Is running faster than Usain Bolt fair?
Is having double or tripple the amount of health from all other classes fair?
Is playing PU fair?
Is…

As you said every class has it’s strengths and weaknesses

Also rangers had all that from the beginning. The qq comes from bads who lose to other RF spaming bads.

/thread…

Thread “ranger sword auto attack” number 8127462389.

Turn auto attacks off, and learn to evade with sword. They are not going to change it just because some new rangers find it frustrating.

Double Edged spear for my Ranger please!

Fits the change perfectly

I don’t see why millions of people have to “suffer” because some “new” players could not spend 5 minutes to ask around and learn the system (The amount of time is obviously less than that…)

I also find kinda “odd” that this change is to help new players, when the minimum amount of gems they can buy requires 75 gold…

So if you want “real suggestion and feedback”, please add a custom amount option below the current fixed ones, for the “not that dumb people”…

Phule.1968:

I support a Points per kill system, the PPT race we have now is just to rewarding for servers with best coverage and doesn’t really say anything about fights. PvE in a PvP enviroment is just laughable imo. There’s always EOTM for that type of roleplay!

Amen!

Offair.2563:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Offair.2563:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Berk.8561:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Or, people could leave the zerg mentality and scout/roam/communicate with their team/server…

Yeah, all one of them at many times of the day on lower tier servers, where a dozen people can be a “zerg”. Maybe they could play a Mesmer so they could “split up” and scout multiple objectives at once, right?

I play on silver league EU server, and we have roamers even on extreme times (far too late or early), let alone a zerg. There’s enough roaming AND zerg action pretty much anytime. It might stop at some point after 6 AM for a couple of hours, then repeat.

So no I don’t know what you’re talking about. I imagine on “gold” league there would be many people 24/7 on map. I don’t play on bronze so can’t really comment on there.

White swords needs to stay as an indication something is going on. Simple as it has been for the last 2 years and i cant see any valid reason why they want to remove them now.

Or you can just ask “any action”, and join the fight…

Yes white swords exist from the beginning, yet zerging rules WvW.

Taking them away will only create more zergs as no one likes to sit in a tower/keep to await a possible attack. I do it myself many times but also like to leave the structure to grab a camp/upgrade it, run supplies to build sieges speed up dollies. All stuff i cant do without white swords as an attack can occur at any given time.

None said anything about sitting in 1 spot.If small groups/soloers are roaming on the map, they should spot enemy zerglings. Just shout and wait for backup.

Again it might turn a very bad change, but in paper it seems good. If it goes south though it will be player fault and not Anet fault… Just saying.

Sigh… Rangers were never a free kill. They were never UP and they ain’t OP now.

The QQ is coming from bads that can’t evade RF (from other bads who spaming 2 as soon they see an enemy player)

Bryzy.2719:

Hell, a Mesmer even posted a video showing exactly what techniques a MESMER can use to counter a longbow ranger. Just face it, you are a terrible player and have a completely baseless vendetta against rangers. You are doing nothing more than embarrassing yourself at this point, either that or you’re just a very good troll.

Let him go on. We could use some laughs every now and then.

After all it’s him that will be stuck here whining for another 6 months ’till the next ballance patch

And probably after that as well.

Offair.2563:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Berk.8561:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Or, people could leave the zerg mentality and scout/roam/communicate with their team/server…

Yeah, all one of them at many times of the day on lower tier servers, where a dozen people can be a “zerg”. Maybe they could play a Mesmer so they could “split up” and scout multiple objectives at once, right?

I play on silver league EU server, and we have roamers even on extreme times (far too late or early), let alone a zerg. There’s enough roaming AND zerg action pretty much anytime. It might stop at some point after 6 AM for a couple of hours, then repeat.

So no I don’t know what you’re talking about. I imagine on “gold” league there would be many people 24/7 on map. I don’t play on bronze so can’t really comment on there.

White swords needs to stay as an indication something is going on. Simple as it has been for the last 2 years and i cant see any valid reason why they want to remove them now.

Or you can just ask “any action”, and join the fight…

Yes white swords exist from the beginning, yet zerging rules WvW.

GreyWraith.8394:

I’m in silver and while we certainly do have scouts sitting on our stuff when we do primetime raids we generally don’t at other times. There’s not enough organized groups at other times and the rewards are nonexistant.

This change in isolation is bad for silver; it will not encourage more people to sit around in towers for no rewards. It will encourage them to join a zerg and ktrain with less resistance since swords no longer pop. More flipping = more rewards, but less tactical play.

If the change is combined with something like sentry turrets included in upgrades or reward changes to benefit scouting then it might be ok.

Who plays WvW for the rewards? If you wanna join a karma train you got for EotM. Most people i kow that are roaming, they do it for fun because they hate big blobs and zerging in general.

Berk.8561:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Or, people could leave the zerg mentality and scout/roam/communicate with their team/server…

Yeah, all one of them at many times of the day on lower tier servers, where a dozen people can be a “zerg”. Maybe they could play a Mesmer so they could “split up” and scout multiple objectives at once, right?

I play on silver league EU server, and we have roamers even on extreme times (far too late or early), let alone a zerg. There’s enough roaming AND zerg action pretty much anytime. It might stop at some point after 6 AM for a couple of hours, then repeat.

So no I don’t know what you’re talking about. I imagine on “gold” league there would be many people 24/7 on map. I don’t play on bronze so can’t really comment on there.

Or, people could leave the zerg mentality and scout/roam/communicate with their team/server…

juno.1840:

I guess if you didn’t visit the website you wouldn’t know?

Or if you had skipped the in-game mail.

Or if you had the whole chat disabled and didn’t speak to anyone the whole month.

Or…

I don’t know.. The next step would be to add a “fairy” that is spamming “Hey! Listen!” in order for players to collect their tokens…

(PS: Anet, I was kidding about the fairy, please don’t do it)

Oh god its too late now isn’kitten …What have I done

Theftwind.8976:

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Why is everyone raging here?! This is a good change. it encourages groups to go scout stuff, and not everyone sticking to 1 commander mindlessly following. You can still do that but don’t complain if they ninja keeps from you…

There’s also always the chat.. you know.. This is an MMO…

First good WvW change I’ve seen in a LONG time!

Care to share what server you play on?

Aurora Glade EU