Guild Wars 2

And conspiracy/RP threads which is awesome.

Klawlyt.6507:

Holy crap! This game is going on a year old, and no one… I mean NO ONE has noticed this! He’s right! Thieves (who actually steal, unlike most rogue classes) can use stealth!

Thank you, Senior Chang, for bringing it to our attention. How this managed to go unnoticed for this long is beyond me. You shall be proclaimed hero of the forums!

TL;DR What Szarazr said.

Because suggestions is filled with frivolous desires and Queen’s Jubilee is filled with awesome.

They should just remove loot from the game. :P

Yes.

EDIT: I have yet to actually test it but if it’s as good as you say it is then that could mean trouble. Either way I am going to test it out with thief s/p

Evon is a cat in a Charr suit.

Asura didn’t make the Meatoberfest. Your argument is invalid.

I think I will keep this thread bumped for a few weeks.

The root of the problem is the fact that players aren’t given enough information to even make well-educated guesses.

Perhaps if anet stopped holding back information, real problems could come to light and they can be addressed better.

Oh my god. It JUST came out. People are checking it out. Calm down bro.

Anyone planning on using these with p/d?

That’s what happens when certain politicians uses silver lining on their support tickets.

Edge.4180:

Navi.7142:

Karizee.8076:

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

4 million votes, a little over half went towards the other fractal.

They said on the stream that it was over 16 million votes.

I know I can’t make any real assumption about the mass of players that stood behind the 16 million votes, but..
Most of what I read was people spending around ~ 300 votes. Assuming that would be true, only 53k players voted?
(Don’t take these numbers too serious, but 300 votes per player isn’t too absurd, is it?)

A friend of mine submitted 13 votes, so maybe.

I’ve submitted at least 400.

Eldrake.1543:

Rammie.2843:

frostyraziel.1854:

So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?

Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.

I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.

Evon supporters have no room to talk.

Rammie.2843:

Let me taste those salty tears!

Are you sure they are adults?

EDIT: If any of you were there for Runescape’s Evolution of Combat update announcement, you would find that this exact behavior existed during that time. There was a vote. There was alot of “I quit”ing. There was alot of website destruction. Thank god its to a lesser degree on these forums.

Well I am sorry I am doing thief stuff. I can do thief stuff as a thief, right?

lol

Plainview hit the nail on the head. Thieves are strong in 1v1 which allows them to take out enemy scouts and ranged support in zergs. Aside from that, thieves aren’t really useful anywhere else unless the thief has properly speced for the situation and knows exactly what they are doing in said situation.

Zumy.6318:

Thieves! Too much heal, too much condiremove, too much stealth, too much deeps and too much mobility.

Guardians! Too much heal, too much invul, too much deeps and too much teleports.

Mesmer! Too much heal, too much stealth, too much deeps, too much shatters and too much mobility.

Engis! Too much heal, too much stealth, too much deeps and too much mobility, too much CC, too much explosions, too much condistacking and too much blocks.

Necros! Too much heal, too much fear, too much deeps, too much condistacking, too much 9k critting, too much hp-pool.

Warriors! Too much heal, too much burst, too much deeps,too much hp-pool, too much armor, too much condiremove, toom much stuns and too much mobility.

Rangers! Too much heal, too much stealth, too much deeps, too much CC, too much pets, too much longbowsploitaion and too much mobility.

Buff Ele till it is fine. Thank you!

No heal, no stealth, no deeps, no mobility, no hp-pool, no blocking, no weaponswap, no burst, no condistacking.

Me so sad!

Onshidesigns.1069:

Esplen.3940:

Onshidesigns.1069:

Esplen.3940:

These are mounts, now will you stop asking for something already in the game?

This is the way mounts should be in this game. (Non-living, small, mechanical, magic, steampunk)

The only things I would change is:
*apply the speed boost the player already has to the mounts. No slower or faster than running.
*No time limit
*No knocked off mount from short falls.

Knocked off from short falls is because you take combat damage from falling, and thus enter combat.
There is no time limit.
Adding a speed boost instantly makes these items paytowin since it does give you an unfair advantage, even if it’s minute. (Note, these items *can be used in WvW, so try to balance around that.)*

I personally think that they work fine, there just should be more variety.

The problem is that people don’t view these as mounts since they’re not real objects which you sit atop (although the Broomstick is real and an object that you sit atop, people don’t perceive it as a mount since they, themselves, are called Vanity items and equipped as a Toy).

SAME MOVEMENT AS ON FOOT APPLIED TO MOUNTS! HOW IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE? It all caps because I am yelling common sense to you.

That would turn them into a cosmetic collectible which GW2 has enough of.

Nope.

And they will still die like scrubs.

My eyes hurt and I have a headache.

Kormir is the RNG god.

Hate her more.

TL;DR

Ohpy

Because I said so. Also kitten Kiel.

Obscure One.4357:

Svarty.8019:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Svarty.8019:

This is a part of the larger problem: thieves in general.

They require a lot of attention from Mr Peters and co.

Thieves are fine.

If by “fine” you mean “overpowered”, I agree.

Thieves are a trash class that was overspecialized into doing one thing in the most game breaking and simple manner possible: press 2 a lot and have near permanent access to invisibility…!#$%ing infantile…

The class is otherwise totally worthless in WvW. You run in a zerg with a glass cannon thief and what happens is you go down, you die, and then half the enemy zerg rally’s off your stupid little thief !#$, and they proceed to straight up curb stomp your allies.

The Thief represents a total failure in core class design by being neither challenging to play, nor encouraging of build versatility, nor presenting options to fill other roles in a party, and makes itself infamous for the only thing it can do well: being a no-skill-required pain in the #$% amounting to little more than a bunch of petty trolls.

The entire class needs a MAJOR overhaul, primarily in changing the whole no-skill-required stealth and spam-2-till-it-dies mechanics of the class.

I’ll leave you kids with this

It isn’t challenging to play because 90% of the people who play GW2 are scrubs. Because there are so many of them, scrubby play is seen as “average”.

Burnfall.9573:

Well at least

All other Mmo’s Stealth are countered,

Yet

Only

In Guild Wars 2

You will Find Stealh Uncounterable

And Not Forgetting

Only in Guild Wars 2 mmo

You will Find Perma-Stealth

Yet that also is

Uncounterable

And Hated with Malice

vs. Scrubs

Fixed*

Venoms. Suck. Period.

Shadow Strike > Skale Venom

Svarty.8019:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Svarty.8019:

This is a part of the larger problem: thieves in general.

They require a lot of attention from Mr Peters and co.

Thieves are fine.

If by “fine” you mean “overpowered”, I agree.

If by “overpowered” you mean “super effective against scrubs”, I agree.

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Zacchary.6183:

Heroes usually become heroes after they die. Would YOU like Evon to die?

Evon was such an hero…

That made me lol so much.

I once felt this way, then I got off PermaDR and for the first time in months I get a lodestone from Orrian boxes. Just wait your turn.

I want the Asuran Half-Life fractal!

totalpwnage.6534:

2) Drill Shot (4 initiative)
Shoot a piercing round that punches holes through armor and ignores armor ratings a little.

Damage: 220 (.35)
Armor Rating set to 1500.
Range: 1200

HEY! I didn’t get 4k armour to laugh at GC’s just to have zerk thieves strip me of all my sexy toughness.

Like it would do any damage lol

Hype.8032:

One moment, I’m trying to find my tiny violin.

In all seriousness, please try to improve your play before you try to ruin another class. A lot of people only play one class and nerfs based on posts like this isn’t good for the game. People quit when their class is needlessly nerfed.

I got you covered! :D

Let me play a sad song for you guys (especially burnfall).

No. Stop asking for something that isn’t going to happen. :D

LumAnth.5124:

Zacchary.6183:

Heroes usually become heroes after they die. Would YOU like Evon to die?

lol

I know some people do :) :)

:3

Heroes usually become heroes after they die. Would YOU like Evon to die?

Kiel is winning because **** RNG boxes.

I hate RNG boxes. :D

If catnip existed in GW2, I would love to see this from a charr.

Relevant picture is relevant.

Because **** RNG boxes.

Sunflowers.1729:

Zacchary.6183:

Funny thing is alot of these people who are complaining havn’t put forth any effort towards combating a thief and instead would rather get on the QQ train and beg Anet for nerfs that are just not going to happen.

The last profession update thieves got 1 buff and 5-6 tooltip fixes. Perhaps Anet is starting to get tired of the kittening. Perhaps they want people to stop crying for nerfs and start figuring out how to beat them… you know, not be lazy baddies.

When even the creator of the build says that it’s overpowered, I’m inclined to believe him more than some random person with a cavalier attitude.

Maybe you should learn how to play the Thief (what you seem to like saying) before saying that everyone else sucks, because I’ve personally tried the build and it is ridiculous. The problem isn’t that people suck, it’s that you are terrible and can’t see its potential.

Here, I even quoted it so you don’t have to find where the post it:

Sceinna.3561:

THIS. NEEDS.A.NERF big time.

I play P/D but I used to run D/P before it went mainstream (Yishis build inspired by my build, he gave me credit in his D/P video).

Either you remove the blindness from the single bullet (as you combo)… or remove blind all together, I can’t really think of a fix but D/P is OP as hell.. luckily most players have no clue how to play it and are nothing more than annoying.

My video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZOl-e8KCkY (9.5k views)

Yes well unfortunately for the 90%, I believe I’ve earned my cavalier attitude. How? I’ve BEATEN my own profession WITHOUT STEALTH, I have beaten other professions WITHOUT STEALTH and the professions I have yet to beat I LEARN ABOUT BY ROLLING THEM (i.e. mesmers and engis).

I’m not the only guy to walk this path either. There are people from every other profession who will get on these QQ topics and chant El Toopy along side the thieves if not give an explanation of the mistakes the OP made with their own class. So if people refuse to take those few extra steps to get what they want then it is their problem. Nobody will come to the rescue and push their easy button for them every single time.

Signet of Malice tends to be the best heal skill for PvE especially when you hit multiple foes. Whenever you do PvE, use it. Another thing is we have no damage mitigation so if you are going to trait, trait for survivability.

As for utilities, you really need to pay attention to what the focus of your build is going to be. I have a condition build that works very well in PvE:

p/d-s/p
10/0/0/2/10
I/-/-/-/III
Signet of Malice, Signet of Agility, Signet of Shadows, Caltrops, Dagger Storm (if you can)
Weapons and armor are Power/Condition Damage
Trinkets are all Lapis
Runes are 50/50 on power and condition damage runes.

Use Shadow Strike to keep some distance and inflict Torment.
Use Pistol Whip on a group of 3 to heal and deal damage.

Most importantly, don’t attempt champs solo or you will die.

DanH.5879:

in my opinion, thief class needs more nerfs!
this will only promote more skill play!

Yes! Rotation = skills! :D

If you want balance, go play chess.

/problemsolved

Funny thing is alot of these people who are complaining havn’t put forth any effort towards combating a thief and instead would rather get on the QQ train and beg Anet for nerfs that are just not going to happen.

The last profession update thieves got 1 buff and 5-6 tooltip fixes. Perhaps Anet is starting to get tired of the kittening. Perhaps they want people to stop crying for nerfs and start figuring out how to beat them… you know, not be lazy baddies.

Karl McLain.5604:

I’m curious as well! Is there a possibility that you’re experiencing heavy latency? The skill itself has about a quarter second cast time (and cancels other skills that are already casting).

Red post in thief forum?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAX