Guild Wars 2

Swagger.1459:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Swagger.1459:

And… I’ll add one thing…

So I played wvw for a short period of time… Big maps… More running… Less fighting… Carppy rewards… Did the tournaments… 500 scraps of absolute junk… I want a full set of mist weapons but I can only buy ONE weapon, of the ones I want, for 300 scraps…

WvWvW is a completely boring as hell and unrewarding waste of time…

At least I know if I go to eotm I’m guaranteed somewhat closer in number matches at times, it’s hell of a lot more fast paced AND fights happen more often… Rewards are still carppy though…

I could buy every legendary off the bltc right now with money, but I want those mist weapons and I want to fight… Simple right?

So at the very least, I know in eotm I’ll get more balanced fights more often when I go there…

And you know what’s sad? I probably clicked on that vendor 50 times looking at those weapons thinking to myself… “I can’t believe how little Anet cares about parts of their game”…

They can make a supergiganticawesome expansion, yet they can’t, over the course of one day, make it so we can convert badges of honor into these junk scraps so players can have a set of those weapons that have been sitting there for a year…

I think… “Look at all these temporary weapons and neeto weapon skills around the game that were made”, yet anet can’t improve THREE… Count them… 1, 2 and 3 skills on the Ranger sword…" and “Oh look at all these cool elites and skills”… /looksbackatRangersword…

Sad Anet, very sad…

Finally you explained why you keep posting the things you post. I get it you love EotM and are a reward centered player. Neither of those things are bad but why do you want to force your game mode on mine? That would be like me screaming non stop for open world pvp with no regard for the pve players. If anything you should be asking for more EotM style maps.

You don’t know what you are taking about honestly. You don’t even realize that most players feel the same way. I would suggest rereading everything that I’ve been posting in this thread.

This is why we can’t have a civilized conversation because you claim to speak for most players when that clearly is not the case. I don’t claim to speak for most players. I claim to speak for a majority of the players that I interact with. I read what you post which is why I try not to respond to you. Your response is a non response since you never touch on any points that are made you just tell people that they need reading comprehension or don’t know what they are talking about. Have a nice day

Swagger.1459:

I was having a rational discussion, thanks for missing all points I brought up to have a civil and healthy discussion with you…

You are entitled to take that stance, I won’t begrudge you. But for every one of you lost after the shiny new wvw update, 20 more will take your place. Also, when the smoke clears, you all will be back playing but “quiet” on the forums… A year will pass and then y’all will show face here again and I’ll think to myself “well gee, I thought bubi and jayne and diku quit but here they are…”…

Where do you get your numbers. 20 will replace every person who quits lol. I will quit if your vision of WvW is implemented and won’t come back considering there are at least 2 games with RvR coming out within the next few months. Hopefully the competition between games will be good for the direction of WvW.

Swagger.1459:

And… I’ll add one thing…

So I played wvw for a short period of time… Big maps… More running… Less fighting… Carppy rewards… Did the tournaments… 500 scraps of absolute junk… I want a full set of mist weapons but I can only buy ONE weapon, of the ones I want, for 300 scraps…

WvWvW is a completely boring as hell and unrewarding waste of time…

At least I know if I go to eotm I’m guaranteed somewhat closer in number matches at times, it’s hell of a lot more fast paced AND fights happen more often… Rewards are still carppy though…

I could buy every legendary off the bltc right now with money, but I want those mist weapons and I want to fight… Simple right?

So at the very least, I know in eotm I’ll get more balanced fights more often when I go there…

And you know what’s sad? I probably clicked on that vendor 50 times looking at those weapons thinking to myself… “I can’t believe how little Anet cares about parts of their game”…

They can make a supergiganticawesome expansion, yet they can’t, over the course of one day, make it so we can convert badges of honor into these junk scraps so players can have a set of those weapons that have been sitting there for a year…

I think… “Look at all these temporary weapons and neeto weapon skills around the game that were made”, yet anet can’t improve THREE… Count them… 1, 2 and 3 skills on the Ranger sword…" and “Oh look at all these cool elites and skills”… /looksbackatRangersword…

Sad Anet, very sad…

Finally you explained why you keep posting the things you post. I get it you love EotM and are a reward centered player. Neither of those things are bad but why do you want to force your game mode on mine? That would be like me screaming non stop for open world pvp with no regard for the pve players. If anything you should be asking for more EotM style maps.

Xbon.9086:

Riku.4821:

I hadn’t touched WvW for a bit. But the way I see it, they are now how it was suppose to be.
They let you get your elite spec, they are soul bound, same as PvE. Play and gear the character you want to play. Why have an alt if you don’t play it.

+1.

people seem to want to progress everything on their other chars in order to make alts better… they should need to play their alts.

Imagine that PvE players don’t get it at all. Who would have thought that would happen.
I refuse to take an alt into WvW without ascended weapons and trinkets but I can earn those in a timely manner on my main or buy gems while not having to set foot in Pve. For the most part the elite specs are better than the vanilla but unless I ktrain (a play style I despise) I have to go to pve to get them in a timely manner.
If you don’t play a game mode on a regular basis don’t comment on it. You don’t see me in the PvP or even the PvE forums telling them how they should be playing their game mode or how it should work.

And why is this in the PvE forum?

Avit.3165:

You guys obviously don’t know who Enns is, coz if you do know, you wouldn’t say that he knew nothing about WvW and he only speaks about GvG.

I don’t care who he is. What I do know is that his claims about a true WvW player are his opinion but he states them as facts.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Distorted Reality.9835:

People not posting on forums: Playing the game mode.

LOL. This hackneyed argument. And it’s not even remotely true either.

As for T4, it’s dead. No already queue in EB at 10:00pm pacific time (and of course no queue in the BLs — and that’s reset night, weekend, with a new server in the matchup.

I’m on NSP and it took me an hour to get into EB last night with 0 cues for any of the bls. If it weren’t for the PvE shtick I wouldn’t mind the new bl at all.

Swagger.1459:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Swagger.1459:

Phantom.8130:

Swagger.1459:

briggah.7910:

Swagger.1459:

Offair.2563:

Jayne.9251:

Swagger.1459:

It’s funny to see some of you rally for less fights and loot… With megaserver, you’ll always have high participation rates, more battles, more defenders, more scouts, more coverage, more rewards, more xp, more fun…

You peeps don’t really think beyond the current failing systems at all… It’s a shame.

You will lose your defenders, you will lose your scouts, when there’s no team framework to work with. You need to have a reliable team that’s on the SAME map every day in order for that to function.

Without it, it’s just a big blob fight. Like pve maps.

+1000. Nothing to add on this.

I’m not sure you peeps really take the time to think before you post…

Please explain to me how on a megaserver side with more people you would…

“Lose defenders”?

“Lose scouts”?

“Lose team framework”?

More people means more roles filled, am I right or am I wrong?

Do you all know what team speak is? Isn’t it possible to get your megaserver side coordinated through voice communication and map chat?

Getting on the same map is possible and the devs keep working on squad and guild functions. They are continuously developing systems for this stuff and looking at pushing up population caps for maps, but most of you aren’t even paying attention to things that have and are happening right under your noses.

Does anyone defend in EoTM? Does anyone scout in EoTM? The only teamwork in EoTM is sticking to the tag. If you die in EoTM you sit at spawn and ask when the commander is going to wp back so you can re-join the k-train..

Does eotm count toward wvw PPT?

Did eotm count in the tournament we had last year?

Dude, just…. just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself now. I’m not saying this to be a jerk. I’m not saying this to troll you. You’re putting your ignorance on display, and are in danger of becoming a joke at this point. If you honestly think that an arbitrary, artificial, and deeply flawed scoring system is the reason defenders defend, then you need to spend less time in EotM and more time getting involved in your server’s WvW community. And if you think that defenders defend because of shinies, or because of some artificial reward in an abitrary tournament where the winners were decided before it even started, then you need to spend less time in EotM and more time getting involved in your server’s WvW community. You have NO idea what it’s all about. You really should learn before you deem yourself fit to argue about what’s best for it.

Ignorance?

You just compared the coordination required to achieve ppt numbers to eotm that doesn’t count for anything ppt related.

Eotm does not require the coordinator required that wvw does…

You don’t think that a megaserver wvw will be completely different than eotm?

Use your critical thinking more before you use the word ignorance. You just completely embarrassed yourself with these comments and provided nothing constructive in your last two posts.

Edit- and you couldn’t even answer the questions I asked and used some rational thoughts…

Edit 2- judging by your comments, it only reaffirms some of my earlier statements in this thread.

Wait, there is no score in EotM now?

I clarified already. Eotm numbers have nothing to do with wvw ppt or tournament ppt. Please read so we are not wasting time and forum space…

It seems to me that your reading comprehension could use some work or you don’t understand what you are asking for. You claim that people would still scout, defend, etc in your EotM clone. If your claim is true why don’t these things happen in EotM? You claim that Ts wouldn’t be a problem which is hilarious. I’ve read this entire thread and it seems that you are arguing just to argue wasting time and forum space.

Swagger.1459:

Phantom.8130:

Swagger.1459:

briggah.7910:

Swagger.1459:

Offair.2563:

Jayne.9251:

Swagger.1459:

It’s funny to see some of you rally for less fights and loot… With megaserver, you’ll always have high participation rates, more battles, more defenders, more scouts, more coverage, more rewards, more xp, more fun…

You peeps don’t really think beyond the current failing systems at all… It’s a shame.

You will lose your defenders, you will lose your scouts, when there’s no team framework to work with. You need to have a reliable team that’s on the SAME map every day in order for that to function.

Without it, it’s just a big blob fight. Like pve maps.

+1000. Nothing to add on this.

I’m not sure you peeps really take the time to think before you post…

Please explain to me how on a megaserver side with more people you would…

“Lose defenders”?

“Lose scouts”?

“Lose team framework”?

More people means more roles filled, am I right or am I wrong?

Do you all know what team speak is? Isn’t it possible to get your megaserver side coordinated through voice communication and map chat?

Getting on the same map is possible and the devs keep working on squad and guild functions. They are continuously developing systems for this stuff and looking at pushing up population caps for maps, but most of you aren’t even paying attention to things that have and are happening right under your noses.

Does anyone defend in EoTM? Does anyone scout in EoTM? The only teamwork in EoTM is sticking to the tag. If you die in EoTM you sit at spawn and ask when the commander is going to wp back so you can re-join the k-train..

Does eotm count toward wvw PPT?

Did eotm count in the tournament we had last year?

Dude, just…. just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself now. I’m not saying this to be a jerk. I’m not saying this to troll you. You’re putting your ignorance on display, and are in danger of becoming a joke at this point. If you honestly think that an arbitrary, artificial, and deeply flawed scoring system is the reason defenders defend, then you need to spend less time in EotM and more time getting involved in your server’s WvW community. And if you think that defenders defend because of shinies, or because of some artificial reward in an abitrary tournament where the winners were decided before it even started, then you need to spend less time in EotM and more time getting involved in your server’s WvW community. You have NO idea what it’s all about. You really should learn before you deem yourself fit to argue about what’s best for it.

Ignorance?

You just compared the coordination required to achieve ppt numbers to eotm that doesn’t count for anything ppt related.

Eotm does not require the coordinator required that wvw does…

You don’t think that a megaserver wvw will be completely different than eotm?

Use your critical thinking more before you use the word ignorance. You just completely embarrassed yourself with these comments and provided nothing constructive in your last two posts.

Edit- and you couldn’t even answer the questions I asked and used some rational thoughts…

Edit 2- judging by your comments, it only reaffirms some of my earlier statements in this thread.

Wait, there is no score in EotM now?

Junkpile.7439:

Think if NA or EU would have even one guild that can play. All i see is 3 year old tactics and blobbing.

You should set foot outside of EotM then.

Cerby.1069:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

I would love to hear how mega groups would solve the core problems in WvW. Stack onto 1 group to dominate the other two and pvd in the off hours. This would be almost the exact same situation we have now but we would be forced to fight with more randoms.

Well that’s the thing. There are so many core problems. The argument that full WvW servers only makes the issues ‘worse’ is representative of very fundamental flaws in the gamemode. Regardless though this thread is being kept on the issue of giving every server an equal WvW experience/opportunity and keep the population of all WvW servers high and healthy. The other problems can be fluently discussed in one of the other many threads.

I hate to break it to you but there will never be an equal WvW experience/opportunity for all servers or alliances even if it was changed to the sort of system you want.

Vieux P.1238:

Jayne.9251:

How many of you pro-wvw-mega server posters in this thread actively defend for your entire wvw time?

I think this is key.

The spate of threads like these also feels like social engineering, in preparation for Anet’s “Big Announcement.”

It is the key. & that’s the point. Lots of ppl are not into defending there server for lots of reasons. witch in turn leave WvW servers lacking players to defend. You cant force players to play. Reason why i say Op’s makes a good point on merging servers. I say into 3 mega groups would help.

I would love to hear how mega groups would solve the core problems in WvW. Stack onto 1 group to dominate the other two and pvd in the off hours. This would be almost the exact same situation we have now but we would be forced to fight with more randoms.

Cerby.1069:

Sinbold.8723:

A lot of WvW players don’t consider EotM “real” WvW because there is no server loyalty in EotM. Many WvW players play for server pride. Were that not the case, many people would have transferred to lower tiers to avoid the que experienced at higher tiers. It’s a lot easier to say, “I hate that server!” than it is to say, “I hate the green team!” when you might be green next week. If Anet goes to the “color faction” system in “real WvW”, it will drive another nail in the coffin of WvW.

Instead of saying what other people supposedly want. Why not just say what ‘you’ want? If your one of those players why not just say so? It’s hard to have a discussion when everyone is making claims on behalf of ‘other’ people. Whether it’s a reality or not is irrelevant. If they don’t care enough to talk about it on the forums, then they likely don’t care enough to quit if changes are made. The same can be said for any kind of game mechanic changes.

And now your response will be “I don’t need proof that’s just how it is…I’ve been playing for xxxxx….this is how it is….”. But what do you want? Speak up for yourself.

I’m not sure why your post is so angry. If anet decided to listen to the lets make WvW like EotM crowd I would quit immediately. I’m only one player but from ts conversations I wouldn’t be the only one.

Knighthonor.4061:

EoTM Factions system is far superior to WvW’s server system.

But WvW’s Map is far superior to EoTM’s map.

so how about a merger of whats best about each?

Please explain to me how EotM factions are more balanced than WvW’s server system.

So much conspiracy theory in this thread. It would be funny if there wasn’t so much blatant ignorance and refusing to look at facts. I somehow doubt that any of the “anet is evil and manipulates the gem exchange” people pay much attention to the fluctuations in the gem market.

The best thing you can do is ally with another small guild. If your guild is short a person you can ask your ally to help you.

Judging by your posting history I would prefer that you weren’t in charge of WvW.

Firelysm.8190:

We should protest on reset, get every wall open and gates in SM, and gather in the center just to friendly dance throw banners and protest for 2 hours to show arena net that we have enough, we need attention on fixing the core problems and to show us some respect.

• We are not respected.
• We are not heard.
• Our posts are always removed when we show truth
• We are not PVE PLAYERS, and YES WE MAIN ONLY ONE GAME MODE.

If you have enough, come to protest this weekend, 21.11.2015 on reset start to protest!
Gather in SM.
Gather in Border oasis temple on the top.

A better way to protest would be to just not log in so anet can see by their precious metrics that they screwed up.

Haralin.1473:

Cures.7451:

Daralii.8940:

kubetz.3058:

Balance patch is planned for December. I expect skill changes and lot of bugfixes then. Fingers crossed.

I’m really just expecting hammer nerfs. They balance the game around PvP, and that’s the only game mode where scrapper’s strong.

Well thats the only game mode where it matters, not? you can play pve naked, and [KING] had what 4? engineers in their raid. Phineas downed the first boss with a (strange) scrapper build.

It matters in WvW too

Did you let the devs know that?

ZachAttack.3957:

FogLeg.9354:

Were raids success?

Depends what you might call a success. Most players at least tried it. Most players also failed at first boss. As the wipes continue, I expect most people lose interest and return to whatever they were doing before raid release. I suppose the really dedicated players will spend long time in raid(s) and eventually master all of them but it will be very small group of overall players. Most people will quickly get bored and ignore it.

Should Anet throw so much time and money on developing something only few players enjoy? Not really. Should they instead improve for example wvw, played by many more people and ignored for so long? Yes.

But can you really say they’ve ignored wvw? I mean you guys just got a whole new borderland. Even if you don’t like it, you can’t really say you’ve been ignored.

Actually the new borderland proves that the WvW community has been ignored.

This will never happen in non-instanced content.

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

I stopped reading after OP claimed 10-15 was a small havoc squad.

be honest now… u stopped reading when i said i think its great…

Not at all. I haven’t played the new bl very much and decided last week to take a week or two off to let some of the dust settle from the expansion. I plan on playing just on the bl when I get back so I can form an opinion.

I stopped reading after OP claimed 10-15 was a small havoc squad.

Hannelore.8153:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Lord.4270:

i am just playing , how can i do it wrong if i enjoy playing like i do ?

You can enjoy it all you like but it is not at all efficient. Being a clicker in any sort of party you are a detriment.

And you’re a detriment coming into a thread with unrelated posts. Besides, its actually faster to click skills 6-0 and use your left hand only for 1-5 otherwise you have to take your fingers off WASD and you lose movement accuracy. That’s okay maybe when stacking in dungeons but its not such a good idea in PvP situations.

To OP: I believe there is such an option, but I can’t tell you where it is. It should be located with all the other checkboxes in the settings dialog.

Wow thank you for letting me know that using wasd on one hand and every skill bound to either my mouse/a rebound key is such a terrible idea. I guess I’ll switch it up to what you suggested.

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Really? The player base created this problem with constant band wagoning and gaming the system to stack. I’m not going to say that the system anet set up was perfect but most of the problems came from players.

What exactly is wrong with stacking? It means we get some decent fights, unlike now.

Right now I logon we have no commanders and no one to fight. This is in Tier 1.

I’d actually really love some guilds stacking in T1 right about now.

If JQ/BG/YB get too full and we end up with 45 minute queues then people will start transferring off.

Queues make the player populations becomes self organising, not arbitrary “Full” designations.

Do guilds stacking onto Tier 1 servers impact play at Tier 2 levels? Is that what you’re concerned about?

The issue at the moment is that anet broke WvW so far fewer people want to play. You apparently haven’t ever been stuck in the stupidity that IoJ and NSP had to go through with stacking the end of last year and the beginning of this one. Players want the easiest win. Give them the choice and they will sit in q just to blob all over the place and Ktrain. It really pains me that the people on these forums and in game claim to want fights when all they really want is to spam 1 while watching Netflix beating the skritt out of doors and run away when there is one ac.

Btw I could care less about T1 or T2.

azizul.8469:

just answer OP. yes, there is option to hide the tool tip.

Sorry I’ve never had to do that, I use a gaming mouse.

Lord.4270:

i am just playing , how can i do it wrong if i enjoy playing like i do ?

You can enjoy it all you like but it is not at all efficient. Being a clicker in any sort of party you are a detriment.

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

Chaba.5410:

The playerbase has already proven it is unable to unfortunately.

Perhaps but players did a better job than what is happening right now.

Really? The player base created this problem with constant band wagoning and gaming the system to stack. I’m not going to say that the system anet set up was perfect but most of the problems came from players.

If you are using a mouse to click skills you are doing it wrong. This is not an issue if your skills are key bound.

On the list of things to spend developer time on SAB is at the bottom of the list.

displayname.8315:

Is it clear to everyone now that the server system needs to go?

Anet you fixed dead PvE maps now fix WvW please and thank you.

Server loyalty means nothing, we need people to play with and against.

Since it took me over 20 minutes to get into eb last night the problem is not population. If you want a megaserver version of WvW feel free to go to EotM.

I won’t tell you yes or no to buying it because I’m still trying to decide if it was worth the money I spent. One piece of advice, if/when you do buy it don’t go out to grind masteries and hero points. Just run around doing events and your story or whatever and you will enjoy it more.

mulzi.8273:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Terrahero.9358:

Look at all you idiots gloating over the nerf to EotM.

For years you cried about how kittenty the rewards were in WvW, then comes along EotM and the rewards were better.
And now it’s been nerfed, and WvW’s rewards are still kitten.

They should’ve buffed WvW to be on par with EotM. But you spiteful little kids couldn’t see that. Good job, give yourself a round of applause.

“If i cant have fun, no one else should”

1. I don’t see how running in a circle avoiding fights should be rewarded at all.
2. Not everyone plays for loot. For me killing other players is the reward.

This is a great example of folks who trash talk EoTM and never step foot in there. I play both WvW and EoTM. and there are more ‘avoiding fights’ in Wvw than there is on EoTM on ANY given day. I get in more fights roaming EoTM than Wvw, more zerg fights, etc. Granted I am on a tier 1 server, but none the less, EoTM is much more diverse than ‘running around in circles avoiding fights’. And this was before the map change, which will make WvW even more of a karma train map. I’m already seeing mesmers hiding in the keeps easily, waiting to port folks in for the stealth cap..

But hey, think what you want. You got your nerf. But don’t expect to see the majority of EotM folks flock to WvW to put up with these elitest attitudes (especially with the new maps). They will leave either stop playing EotM and go Pve, or just stay in EotM and grind it out. So in the end you cries for nerf didnt help your preferred game mode either. Your efforts would have been better served asking for buffs to the WvW rewards.

I actually leveled my last toon entirely in EotM. " (insert color) is being slow someone drop a merch till they show up." happened in almost every match I was in. From the way you make T1 sound I’m glad I never felt compelled to go there if all you do is avoid fights. 2 people who know what they are doing can derail the blob with an ac and a treb because the EotM Ktrain doesn’t want to take the time to do anything other than PvD.

I’m happy for the nerf and I don’t believe it was enough. Gaining ranks for fighting doors is in my opinion stupid.

To be clear I don’t care about WvW rewards at all. My reward is sneaking something away from my enemy, Killing them or defending an objective with just a few people vs a map blob.

Terrahero.9358:

Look at all you idiots gloating over the nerf to EotM.

For years you cried about how kittenty the rewards were in WvW, then comes along EotM and the rewards were better.
And now it’s been nerfed, and WvW’s rewards are still kitten.

They should’ve buffed WvW to be on par with EotM. But you spiteful little kids couldn’t see that. Good job, give yourself a round of applause.

“If i cant have fun, no one else should”

1. I don’t see how running in a circle avoiding fights should be rewarded at all.
2. Not everyone plays for loot. For me killing other players is the reward.

I’m waiting a week or two before I make a decision about the new bl.

I set foot into PvE for the first time in a while and was disappointed with the new mobs. Still far too easy.

“You must have no experience commanding”
“The enemy won’t come out to fight and just hug the wall”

This right here shows your inexperience. If you build an open field treb they can’t disable it as easy and have to come out to fight. Instead of crying about defenders maybe you should change your tactics.

I really wish that they would just offer these skins for laurels instead of holding another tournament that in my opinion does more harm than good to the WvW community.

The only difference between a legendary weapon and ascended is stat swap and usually annoying graphic effects. I assume that legendary armor would be the same. I have no problem with that.

If you plan on playing an engineer a gaming mouse is mandatory. I noticed a lot less hand pain the minute I switched.

vespers.1759:

Tell me about a time since release that mesmers and thieves have not been way over the top.

Go ahead I’ll wait. Reality is these two have been kitten since the very beginning and it will not be changing.

I only had a problem with those two classes until I played them so no, they have never been over the top. Reality is that instead of learning counters players would rather scream nerf.

You’re wasting your breath Nymph. The bad players will keep screaming nerf until what they want gets nerfed then move on to the next spec they have a problem with and scream about that.

Einlanzer.1627:

TheBlackS.3561:

Einlanzer.1627:

TJgalon.5012:

Who knows what goes into a balance, and it might not be easy to say balance one class while leaving the other 7, soon to be 8, alone also. I am unsure how it been n the past, but ween seen class balance a few times the last few months.

I do. All you have to do is compare the methodology used by Arenanet here to that used by other companies. Balance is simultaneously very easy and very difficult. The difficult part is that it will never be perfect, so you just have to make peace with that. The easy part is comparing skills with similar effects, paying attention to bug reports, and performing rapid iteration on overused and underused skills.

It’s really not rocket science.

Which isn’t easy at all, it may sound easy on a really superficial level, but it isn’t

…. It’s really not as hard as people make it out to be. Not with the right operational infrastructure. The problem, as with most things in GW2, seems to revolve around poor management.

Pretty easy to be an armchair developer isn’kitten

Scandi.5693:

Zanther Deathbringer.4762:

Beldin.5498:

1. report
2. ignore

I see no reason to leave a map because of chat .. you can ignore it. Much worse
is only when people jump around you all the time, because you can’t make
them invisible.

Sadly, this will go ignored, as most users would rather complain about it on the internet, then to use the actual solutions available to them such as the in game ignore and report features. Sorry, but “this is the internet” is a perfectly valid excuse, because you have every option and tool in the world to be able to not deal with people you dont like.

Just ignore and report. There is no need for a topic about how someone offended you. Keep that stuff on tumblr.

Yes but I am just as concerned with preventing someones daughter to be subject to this kind of language as well. It is easy to walk away from problems, but it solves nothing.

My daughter is 11 and knows to block and report. She also knows not to make a big deal of it because that’s what they want you to do. Stop feeding into it.

Straegen.2938:

dancingmonkey.4902:

This assessment that you need more stats for direct damage then condition builds do is false. I have plenty of builds that do as much damage in soldiers gear that most condition builds do in dire gear.

It is easy for power/crit builds to output as much damage. It is practically impossible for power/crit builds to output as much damage and remain stealthed. Condi is always going to have an upside in its current form because it bypasses toughness, doesn’t proc reveal and doesn’t need to be three stat to be highly effective.

IMO Anet should have treated condi damage just like regular damage with cleanses/removal only effecting non-damaging conditions. In this case, Reveal would pop at the application of condi damage. They would likely have to rebalance condi damage but would make for overall better fights.

With your over 5k hours I would have hoped that you wouldn’t spout off about conditions only needing 2 stats since it is so untrue. You absolutely need precision but you will just ignore that part I’m sure. In the time that you have been complaining in this thread you could have come up with a counter. If you don’t believe there is one that is entirely on you. Now if you will excuse me I’m going to hunt some more Mesmers.

meltdown.5870:

i hope so …….with alotta gold and legendary stuff

This is my problem with tournaments. Peter PvE showing up just for a shiny. A wall is almost upgraded and it’s being trebbed, screw the fact that in 2 minutes it will be 100% I want the achievement for repair. Our garrison is going down, screw that I need to cap ruins for the achievement. I know that anet fixed most of this but it doesn’t change the mind set of most PvE folk who show up for themselves instead of their server. Then you add the burn out and stress for the veterans and the fact that 90% of the time you know who will win at the end anyways——no thank you.

I still don’t understand why everyone has a problem with Mesmer. I’ve been playing static discharge engineer a setup that everyone tells me will get wrecked by a Mesmer and I win 90% of the time. Stealth is not a problem. Some of the skills that apply conditions need to be looked at but not conditions themselves. I view this as a casual player base that needs to LTP.

So you want to change the way WvW works just because you’re in a pvx guild? That sounds reasonable.

funghetto.1584:

why are u replying? oh! i know! you are one of those players that uses food! xD

With the attitude you have I’m sure I could kill you easily without food. Food just gives me your bag quicker.

In my opinion this idea is convoluted and bad. I really wish you would stop shamelessly bumping this thread.

UnitedChaos.8364:

ricky markham.8173:

well thought out post op i agree with you totally and i dont have anymore to add

Thanks!

ZudetGambeous.9573:

So basically you think everyone should play a power build and that condition builds should not be viable?

Even with the current state conditions deal significantly less dps than power specs. we need ways to apply MORE conditions, not less.

The exception is the 3 current burn classes, ele, guard and engineer can stack pretty crazy burn burst.

No, I clearly stated that condition builds should be powerful, but the current game design that every skill should apply arbitrary conditions is out of control. You should have to intentionally apply conditions and not just them be a side effect of whatever skill your using. And no, if you get a high stack of any condition, including low-damage conditions, such as poison, it will do much more damage than any physical dps class.

Solandri.9640:

InsidiousWaffle.7086:

Well, firstly, for maiming ranger, I’m impressed that you don’t know about all of our condi cleanse.

Troll ungent- cleanse 2
Sharpening stone- cleanse 2

Those only remove conditions if you take the trait he mentioned, which prohibits you from taking the other condition-cleansing trait. Because they’re in the same trait line at the same level (grandmaster). It also really hurts build diversity because you MUST take that trait line if you want reliable condition cleanses.

Healing Spring used to clear conditions, until they converted it to a trap. It still does if you can get the trap portion to trigger. But if the initial heal portion tops off your HP, then the trap portion doesn’t trigger, and you never get the condition cleanse.

My most frequent mode of death now is I get cripple/bleed/burn/whatever put on me, I use Healing Spring, the initial heal puts my HP to full, meaning I never get the condition cleanse, and I get killed. (If your hp drops while you’re in the HS trap, you have to move out of the trap and back in to trigger it and get the condition cleanse. Which is rather difficult when you’re crippled and quickly being beat to death.)

This used to be the ranger’s best heal, but its current state has made it the second worst. The dorky trap mechanic might’ve been acceptable when you could pre-set up to 3 healing spring “traps” for later use. But that was immediately “fixed” to a max 1 trap in the next patch, while the condition cleanse problem remained unaddressed. If they can’t make the trap trigger if you’re not at full hp or you have conditions on you, they need to make it so using the skill also cleanses some conditions.

Lightning reflexes- cleanse 2 movement impeding

The immobilize clear was added to this skill because it was silly/stupid to have a skill designed to make you leap back out of danger, but could be completely nullified with an immobilize.

Signet of the wild: cleanse 1 every 10 seconds or full clear

That is the lone utility skill he mentioned.

As far as traits I’m curious to know which one you are noting, and you might be forgetting shared anguish which transfers movement impeding conditions to your pets

That doesn’t transfer conditions. It transfers control effects like stun, knockback, and is equivalent to a stun breaker, not a condition cleanse. And it seems to be bugged at the moment. Or maybe it’s because Anet keeps adding mobs which repeatedly apply multiple control effects in quick succession, and the trait only transfers the first application to the pet before going on a 60 sec cooldown. (Side-effect of changing Stability to stacks.)

There is a ranger trait which removes blindness, cripple, and poison on dodges. Probably the weakest conditions out there.

I believe sword 2 is also a immobilize break as well as greatsword 3

Nope. They don’t clear any immobilizes, control effects, or conditions. In fact GS 3 is bugged in that if you’re immobilized during the middle of its leap, all your skills are disabled until you die or logout. Actually I think this bug affects all leap skills, it’s just more apparent on ranger GS 3 because it’s the longest duration leap.

Thank you for clarifying this for InsidiousWaffle.7086.

Please post your math showing that condition builds can do more dps than a power build please. I always ask this but I never get an answer.