Guild Wars 2

LordOtto.2650:

You can always choose to play stronghold or conquest, so what’s the problem?! Don’t choose to play stronghold!

You don’t see the bigger picture. Both “amber shopping” and stronghold farm (and even the meta to some very small extent) undermine the legendary title to a point where it no longer has any value.

Anet is going to fix amber abuse and will do a balance patch, but unless they remove stronghold all of this is pointless because people will keep farming their way quick and easy without doing PvP.

Yep, should definitely be removed. Move it to unranked only. People shouldn’t be able to que dodge better teams by unchecking conquest and farming 3 minute wins with ambers on this PvE gamemode.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

The way to overcome this issue is to disconnect your Ethernet cable. Then replug. It will give you the 1min to reconnect and you do not get the dishonor you would get if you leave the match.

Happened to me before.

Unnecessary. You can just simply relog too, you won’t actually get any dishonor despite the warning.

Sometimes at teamfights I just spend 10 seconds bumping into invisible barriers and at this point I don’t even care. I doubt Anet cares.

Kraljevo.2801:

morrolan.9608:

I wonder if Jon Peters leaving had any effect?

Of course it did. He was part of ArenaNet since early GW1.

Isn’t he one of the main guys behind creating Skyhammer? I doubt his departure change much.

PvP’s been going downhill since 2 of the 3 founders left.

sephiroth.4217:

Tomux.8675:

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Wonders happen, even such awful people get to legendary, in case it’s not his second account on which he doesn’t afk and kitten.

Not that a DH could help us a lot in that game.

Holy crap he really did AFK his way to legendary…. I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time by playing!

(also hope OP gets a ban… That trash talk to his team and refusing to help is what causes a lot of people to give up PvP. 1 person REALLY can disrupt 9 other peoples games)

He didn’t get a ban despite afking for 3 years and he didn’t get a ban for being the guild leader of “Commander of the 3rd reich”, he will keep getting away with it because anet gives 0 kittens.

1st guy to afk his way to legend, that’s a true achievement.

And who are you going to decap, stability/block chaining chronobunkers or perma stability revenants? :P

It’s not progressing, sitting on 1/6 for everyone. Are players supposed to get the “Primordial Legend” title after the season ends or is this bugged?

Yes please, this so much.

EdwinLi.1284:

Why not two Elder Dragons at one story? :p

Joke aside, it is still possible we may get 2 Elder Dragons the next battle or future battles against Elder Dragons. Maybe to the point that two Elder Dragon actually fight each other with one winning and absorbing the defeated Elder Dragon’s magic resulting in “insert imagination idea here” and we now have to deal with that Elder Dragon.

That way Anet can kill 2 ED with one story and stop making them sound like they’re just waiting for some mysterious event to happen just to kick them in the butt to become a active threat.

At the beginning of s1 I was so happy, I thought “Flame & Frost” will be about Primordus and Jormag going at each other so we can forget about dragons sooner and get some good stories going xP

Then we got Scarlet..

The only thing that’s unresonable imo and nearly impossible for smaller guilds, are the kegs/shovels (especially if you don’t PvE).

The DP thief build is a wvw one, this is the link to the old conquest build: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Thief_-_Dagger/Pistol

Btw if anyone found something that should be changed/added, drop a comment either on this topic or even better, the build’s discussion page.

Yes. Their mobility is completely broken in conquest, it’s a breath of fresh air that they are gone.

Now we just have to get rid of the bunker meta.

Eirdyne.9843:

At this point I think we need to see the Dragon Story just stop. These things are about as dangerous as hyperactive puppies.

Also way less interesting than hyperactive puppies.

They could continue so many GW1/GW2 stories that aren’t dragon related and any of them would be more engaging.

Iason Evan.3806:

Last year we couldn’t go in Toypocalypse with a pre-made group due to a bug. Will it be fixed this year?

Bugfixes can’t be sold for gems (yet), so don’t get your hopes up.

Shouldn’t we simply face people of the same division (and same tier if possible)? Top teams facing each other in amber, people tanking MMR for easy climb, etc, these could all be solved by this.

Revenant is the only class that can pull it off. Tone down the traits/skills instead.

I hope this will be fixed soon.

Arenanet doesn’t know how to build a PvP game, they just keep throwing money at tournaments and hope for the best.

They have a really good and imo competent dev team, but the upper management has to go which obviously won’t happen.

Morwath.9817:

I already got idea how to abuse it. I will simply not que for a week or so, premades should be in different divisions after that, so I won’t be put into que vs them ;-)

I think they said you can still be matched against people from other leagues so gl with that :P Matchmaking will likely be exactly the same.

You said GW1, from that point on devs will stop reading and disregard your suggestion, sadly.

Espire.9723:

saturn.4810:

How can you complain about Anet’s lack of PvP support if they just have organized a pro league with 200k cash reward?

Isn’t that the ultimate sign of how much Anet cares about PvP?

Sarcasm?

Giving the money to the players and not developement won’t make the game better. At this rate they could just use the money to refund PvP players and remove PvP.

Dagins.5163:

Next stronghold map? I hope this one was last (although it’s even fun for casual play), and next we have proper 2v2/3v3 TDM maps without respawns – with ladder and real rewards, obviously.

Agreed, it’s a failed experiment.

Btw TDM without respawn is called Annihilation – people have to stop asking for TDM when they actually mean another gamemode, because that’s how we got courtyard.

How about a middle ground – restricting where people can queue from.

In a dream scenario, people could Q up from their Guild Halls, and even duel each other in the guild arena. Problem is, the Arena’s using PvE gear which is a huge issue for any PvP guild as it’s impossible to recreate a competitive setting with PvE gear and balance.

Would it be possible to add an option for guild officers to toggle a “PvP” option for the GH? In which case the Arena would use PvP gear and members could que up from the GH. Even if this means loss of some features like gliding, it should be an option and healthy for PvP communities – PvE/WvW guilds could still use the “PvE” GH option.

This would actually solve many of the current issues:

• The irrelevance of Guild Halls to PvP guilds (because there is nothing for us to do there as the Arena’s using PvE gear and balance)
• Queuing outside of HotM
• Would give people something to do while waiting.

Jekkt.6045:

witcher.3197:

Jekkt.6045:

this build is complete garbage… not only do you die easily to focus in a teamfight because you don’t have an actual stunbreak or teleport but you also lack ranged support to go offnode when you need it but still have to support allies.

tripple utility shout is a terrible idea and i would put scepter before staff and dagger at last. diamond skin is way too situational to be first pick and is more or less only useful in a 1v1 against a condi build, which will end in a tie because xou don’t have the damage to kill it either nor should you be in a 1v1 as a supporter at all.

this just shows the lack of knowledge of the metabattle admins to put this in te meta section…

thanks, by putting it there karl will now think tempest is fine and doesn’t need many fixes/qol and traitoverhauls

This is by far the most common ele/tempest build in both EUand NA high tier.

Some people are going to win thousands of dollars with this build while you’re posting here about how you can’t comprehend why it’s good, which (by your logic) obviously means that everyone else is wrong.

How does that make you feel?

i never said anything about not comprehending “why it’s good”, because it’s not. running support on a build that can get yourself killed easily against teams that know how to focus is a terrible idea. most of the eles that played in the qualifiers are the same bandwagon d/d eles that have never touched a staff or a scepter in their lives before, just with a new build that requires them to press shouts instead of cantrips :^) i don’t need thousands of dollars to know which eles suck and which builds are bad. bring 1 smart marauder herald and your “most common eu and na” build bites to the dust; and there goes your support.

Look at Auramancer as an MMO healer. Those usually don’t have the most amazing sustain, but you can’t say they suck. Auramancer might occssionally need help from allies, but it can also save others from spikes by sharing Shocking or Frost Aura, Rebound, Protection etc. It’s a very valuable asset to the team, it’s just not completely faceroll.

Jekkt.6045:

this build is complete garbage… not only do you die easily to focus in a teamfight because you don’t have an actual stunbreak or teleport but you also lack ranged support to go offnode when you need it but still have to support allies.

tripple utility shout is a terrible idea and i would put scepter before staff and dagger at last. diamond skin is way too situational to be first pick and is more or less only useful in a 1v1 against a condi build, which will end in a tie because xou don’t have the damage to kill it either nor should you be in a 1v1 as a supporter at all.

this just shows the lack of knowledge of the metabattle admins to put this in te meta section…

thanks, by putting it there karl will now think tempest is fine and doesn’t need many fixes/qol and traitoverhauls

This is by far the most common ele/tempest build in both EUand NA high tier.

Some people are going to win thousands of dollars with this build while you’re posting here about how you can’t comprehend why it’s good, which (by your logic) obviously means that everyone else is wrong.

How does that make you feel?

style.6173:

witcher.3197:

saturn.4810:

Well the patch comes out on Tuesday, as stated in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Banned/first#post5749845

And I assume there will be balance changes with it.

And as stated in https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-road-ahead-for-2015/ significant balance patches will only be released quarterly.

So you assume it. Then you must be new here Wouldn’t hold my breath for a patch before season 2.

You are overly cynical. I am sure ANET will release some balance updates. It will likely be something like “Changed the tooltip to better reflect….”

“Why fix the build if we can fix the tooltips instead, right?”

saturn.4810:

Well the patch comes out on Tuesday, as stated in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Banned/first#post5749845

And I assume there will be balance changes with it.

And as stated in https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-road-ahead-for-2015/ significant balance patches will only be released quarterly.

So you assume it. Then you must be new here Wouldn’t hold my breath for a patch before season 2.

saturn.4810:

Small balance patch comes out on Tuesday with raids

Source?

Idk about mastery but I think each time you “rank up” after r80 should earn 5-10 hero points, considering how there are skins tied to elite specs which you can’t get by doing PvP at all.

Embolism.8106:

For PvE I don’t think there’s any question that Viper is better (what else is the extra stat for?). PvP however is more dubious, because damaging conditions are usually plenty lethal if not cleansed; and if they are then the extra duration is wasted.

And yes I realise this is about PvE since it talks about stats on armour, just sayin’.

I wouldn’t be particularly surprised if mobs in raids start cleansing conditions though.

It’s irrelevant for PvP as neither of these have any defensive stats thus you’d be respawning before you could leave the base.

The amount people defending skyhammer is a sad and clear sign that the PvP community left the PvP forums long ago.

Oh god please don’t.

Morwath.9817:

witcher.3197:

In GW1 you had 30-40 viable builds per PvP gamemode, in GW2 it’s roughly the same. There are fewer meta builds because the party size is smaller so people must work from a more limited pool of possible team comps, but that’s it.

In GW2 you get usualy 1 truly viable build per profession once meta establishes…
Also your example with Paragon is pretty bad, it was used often as secondary profession…

Yes, but paragon itself wasn’t used only 1 skill or 2 on other classes.

And classes in both games have more than 1 truly viale build aside from the meta. It’s just that things become meta for a reason, and most people cba to use anything that’s not the easiest/most effective option.

lorddavito.2395:

Because there is NO variety or whatsoever when it comes to builds, runes and/or sigils.
There is only a certain amount of viable stuff that is being used by everyone and their moms.

In Guild Wars 1 everything had the possibility to become usefull on ANY profession, there was no specific meta class or meta build. Every class was used and viable.

That’s so wrong. Every game ever had a meta, GW1 is no different. Meta (loosely) means most commonly used. Let’s take HA and GvG, post derv patch. First came AoG, then WS, and after these got nerfed AoB took over. Now, AoG and WS were still decent, yet AoB was the only derv build you saw, which means AoB was meta.

Every class was used? Cool let me grab my Paragon and – ohwait, only 1 PvP build that’s somewhat viable in PvP, and nobody even takes it.

Just look at ele. You could use D/D, Staff, S/F, and even D/F tempest (different levels of viability and skill cap, but all of these work). Now, yes these are mostly cele builds, but did assassins or warriors have builds other than pure DPS in GW1? No.

I’m not saying that the current meta is good, you’re right there’s a ton of broken stuff, but the build diversity wasn’t that much better in GW1, and in GW2 at least every class is represented at top tier.

In GW1 you had 30-40 viable builds per PvP gamemode, in GW2 it’s roughly the same. There are fewer meta builds because the party size is smaller so people must work from a more limited pool of possible team comps, but that’s it.

It fails when you jump btw. IF you are in the air, it won’t cleanse.

Varezenem.2813:

rchu.8945:

Rym.1469:

You absolutely don’t need a staff as second weapon set. Proven by Celestial builds for example.

so Sword / X is a must, so it’s down to players to choose between staff or hammer. Just checked metabattle that the current meta is staff, and is your celestial builds one of the builds listed under the test section on metabattle?

Let’s be honest the meta hasn’t been established yet.

Every single competitive team’s running S/Sh Staff revenants since day 1, it’s safe to say that revenant meta already settled.

Druid would demolish the ele because of the imba pet damage.

I think most of the people who are asking for TDM actually mean annihilation.

TDM is kitten. Annihilation would be great.

The blind spam is completely broken, CD needs to be 7 seconds, or at the very least 5.

SlayerSixx.5763:

If helseth couldn’t use one of mesmers maaaaany get out of jail free cards and shred a defenseless trap guardian in seconds, I honestly don’t know what to say. Distort, blink, decoy+sw2. Those are three ways to get out of the trap and I don’t even have 10% of the time helseth has on mesmer.

The expansion is still new and not many people expected DH to be good I guess. Helseth probably didn’t know the skills that were used against him at that time.

T raw.4658:

witcher.3197:

Epic Beast.5189:

i actualy laugh while im playing on my dear thief.. everyting hits like a truck… But hey anet gave us 1 more dodge.. and we can run pretty fast to ^^ but yeah im geting tired to be the go deacap free base role or be the +1 guy… mobility aint enough atm..

There are 8 other classes you can play, with multiple viable builds per class. If thief doesn’t have what you need, maybe try rerolling instead of asking the devs to change the game for you.

Says the guy who was whining to the devs to change the game so they don’t have to play sky hammer or courtyard…..

Thief haters…..

Can you seriously not see the difference between the 2? Ranked is disabled so people are forced to play Skyhammer and other maps that are unfit for proper PvP (there is a reason why those aren’t in ranked). We have no choice. What stops you from rerolling, on the other hand?

Epic Beast.5189:

i actualy laugh while im playing on my dear thief.. everyting hits like a truck… But hey anet gave us 1 more dodge.. and we can run pretty fast to ^^ but yeah im geting tired to be the go deacap free base role or be the +1 guy… mobility aint enough atm..

There are 8 other classes you can play, with multiple viable builds per class. If thief doesn’t have what you need, maybe try rerolling instead of asking the devs to change the game for you.

Teutos.8620:

Quick question: When do we have to active the guild mission?
Before we start queueing, before we accept the match or right before the match starts=

Before you enter the queue. We activated it like 2 seconds after we joined the Q, but got no progress, so we had to do a 2nd match to get it done before the time limit runs out.

This is very punishing for high MMR guilds because the Q can take a lot longer.

These maps are soo bad and hated that whenever I get a Skyham/Court/actualy ranked map for the selection, is the only time I see a map win by having 100% of votes (in favor of the ranked map).

I get that Anet doesn’t want to let the time and resources they invested go to waste, but I’m pretty sure that they see how few votes these maps get and these shouldn’t be forced on us. 1 troll who votes skyham and people usually go afk, especially in unranked where it doesn’t matter.

You can only equip it for the bottom specialization line. You know, the one with the golden trim that looks different than others.

ArthurDent.9538:

ReaperJr.5967:

It’s funny how people think. Of course there’s gonna be a meta. But does that mean there is no build diversity? Nope. Meta just means the optimal build to run.

How do you expect anet to balance, make every build known to us equal? That’s impossible. So if you’re qq-ing about having a meta, it just displays your level of intelligence.

But why can’t my warrior build that uses all physical utilities, takes the shoutheals trait, and uses greatsword with magi amulet be viable?

Because this is the equivalent of trying to eat your meal with a lamp instead of a fork.

And I thought Dragonhunter was bad.. :P

Willowsheart.7940:

Thanks all. That makes me feel better Thank you also PopeUrban for that offer. We will give it a shot on our own first, but it is nice to know there are friendly folk out there willing to lend a hand.

Pretty sure that Anet intended for raids to be the hard content and not GH claiming :P Shouldn’t give you too much trouble I guess.