Guild Wars 2

Are the devs aware of the ranger longbow range bug? Range is supposed to be 1500 and that is what the line underneath your skills will show, but longbow shots will hit their targets beyond that point. Looks like 1800 when I tested it with guildies in spvp.

This bug has been around for a while too, figured it would get fixed but it hasn’t been yet. Possibly a bug from when base range was 1200 and the trait added 300. Wouldn’t be surprised if the added 300 range was somehow accidentally left hidden with the grandmaster longbow trait.

The staff healing comes more from the way your trait as well as water attunement auto-attack and geyser.

Traiting in the water line, gives you a heal on attunement to water, regen, soothing mist which gives a lot of passive healing with the grandmaster trait “Soothing Power”.

In the arcane line, elemental attunement minor as well as the “Evasive Arcana” grandmaster trait gives you increased regen/protection uptime as well as a heal + condi clear when dodge rolling while attuned to water.

Couple those with also being able to blast finish water fields, at the staff ele has enormous healing potential. Just remember to swap attunements regularly in order to maximize the healing benefit.

funghetto.1584:

im speaking of some “particular” builds – the burst and those 8s+4s immune to conditions and to damage – berserk stance and endure pain? – put it in a -60% condition duration – and its perfect to kitten a 1 vs 1 – and makes whoever is using a condition build ridiculos (oh yes – escape for those 8-12s)!

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Uh, zerker stance and endure pain to stop your condis?

Endure pain doesn’t stop the application, nor the damage from conditions.

You are straight up suggesting that anet take out an integral part of wvw builds because you don’t know how the warrior class works and therefore lost against one.

They should swap the new mesmer elite with the new elementalist elite. Cooldown reduction fits quite well with the whole chronomancer thing anyways.

I run this in wvw. Although if I need to be a bit tankier, I switch the rings out for celestial ones.

With bloodlust and guard stacks, your power is almost at 2800. Enough healing power for buffed soothing mist to give you sustained healing, enough survivability to not get one-shot.

Also, I don’t zerg, but I do use this when we run in 5-mans and hit zergs. Quite effective all around.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQFAWhMMoyhFOwzB8RM0AY0RoGMIlKQAIGWZhrwUA-TFCBABOqEkU1fwS5BAXAAzUiV0+DM8AA0THApAiYoF-w

d/f

Unless you go condi heavy, the damage benefit of dagger off-hand doesn’t outweigh the defensive benefit of focus.

Let us compare it to eviscerate which was already considered somewhat overpowered.

You don’t need to build adrenaline.
You can hit from 1500 range.
You can pierce targets to hit more than 1 person.
It stacks vulnerability.

The biggest issue I would say is the 1500 range. There should be a trade-off from being able to attack from that far. Either lowered damage, slower attacks, higher cooldowns etc.

Hahaha, sounds like a fun guy. Next time, don’t press 4 and simply let yourself die. It is quite simple really. You had the power to control if he would keep messing with you or not, but instead you gave the the power to him and he took full advantage of it.

ualgh.1832:

nice keybinds

nice heal

nice utility skills

nice hp

nice eotm

Hahahahahaha, I hadn’t even bothered looking until you mentioned the utilities. It would be difficult to get a worse set of utilities than that. In fact, it takes skill to pick out such a bad combination because even choosing at random is more likely to end up being better.

If you have honour, then you will fight to the death. For death in battle is honourable.

There is nothing honourable about cowering in a corner and hoping someone wont attack you. It would be disrespectful to let someone run past without giving them battle, for it would imply that the person is beneath you and not worthy of battle.

If you want to be that disrespectful to them and dishonour yourself, then go ahead, but I shall give everyone in the JP basic respect by giving them battle.

Creepy Silent.9801:

Magicclown.7052:

I sense a lot of anger.

Dude is mad because he thinks a 7v4 to 7v6 is ok, but when its all of a sudden 7v8 its"overwhelming" numbers.

Is that how you were lying to yourself to make yourself feel better afterwards?

You lost every single 5v5 engagement, rapidly and then would either run back to spawn or waited until you had 4 thieves(two were adds that took part in most of the fights), 2 mesmers, 1 guard, 1 warrior, 1 engi and 1 necro to fight a group of 5-6. I am not counting the additional adds which sometimes were another necro, warrior, guard or thief as we on 2 occasions had 2-3 adds as well.

You were facing 1 necro, 1 engi, 1 warrior, 2 mesmers, one of which hopped onto a staff ele later on and a guard who came later on as well. That is 5 and later 6.

You know what you could have done? Instead of waiting and calling in more people, fought with even numbers and tried harder, but instead you followed the typical zergbaby mentality of calling in more numbers.

You’re pretty much one step away from fighting next to a tower and having 2 of your guildies manning cannons.

If you want to make excuses such as “oh, cheesy builds” then you can do so. At the end of the day, you know that you repeatedly lost even numbered fights and instead of trying different tactics, you called in more numbers.

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a group that abuses perplexity runes including hammer warriors using perplexity says that nobody is as good as they are.

Hey, you sound like your idols Paxa.. Main difference is that they could actually deal with even numbers.

Oh, I heard that if you log out and rejoin your wvw map, you can be right back at your spawn which means you don’t have to run away from even numbers across the map all the way back to spawn. Might save you some time in the future.

Perphection.8209:

Azaruil.3406:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

A big shout-out to all of the roamers and guild groups we came across this week. These skilled group fights are the only reason I play this game, and I’m sure the same goes for so many of you.

So, thank you to everyone we fought. Keep up the good work, and keep roaming alive.

What skilled enemy groups did you come across? The best I found were average roamers. Even the self-proclaimed good roamers were push overs and would call in more friends when they continuously wiped with even numbers.

I’ll agree, a majority of the fights were very one-sided. But putting people down doesn’t help the overall state of the game. Be thankful for those “average roamers”, and encourage them to keep trying.

If they call in more numbers, take that as a compliment. Most importantly, show some respect. The game needs more guild groups and small man teams.

No, respect is earned.

If the self-proclaimed roamers talk smack and claim that they can 1v2 us, but get whooped in a 1v1 by someone not even running a 1v1 build, or if they repeatedly get wrecked in an even numbers fight, but call in more friends until they have twice the numbers and then talk trash, they deserve no respect.

If the self-proclaimed small-man group repeatedly loses in an even numbers fight and then simply ends up running all the way to their spawn to avoid fighting, they do not deserve respect.

If that group waits until they have significantly more players than you do in order to fight, they do not deserve respect.

If they do want respect, then they can reflect on why they lost an even-numbers engagement and see if they can change their strategy and come again with the same numbers. They can change who they target, how they approach the fight, their trait setup, class make-up etc. and come back with the same numbers to try and win. If they do that, then they deserve respect.

I have not come across any groups like that yet this week.

Not trying to start kitten, but I’m curious who these self proclaimed roamers that supposedly talked kitten are. This thread has been pretty tame in that regard, and I can’t think of anyone who posted claiming to be the best 1v1 player. Also what guild do you run with, just wondering if I ran into you at all, because if I did I would be quite surprised if you didn’t find it a good fight.

It was random people in-game that would die, join group and start talking smack etc.. I honestly don’t remember the guild tags on the occasions it happened.

I roam with the tag [STD], however the friends I play with use their own tags.

Just to clear things up, I have no problem with people who fight but aren’t good as long as they don’t resort to overwhelming numbers to win. If a person repeatedly tries to win with the same numbers and regardless of whether they end up winning or losing, it shows a certain type of mentality that I have much respect for. Challenging yourself and trying to better yourself instead of taking the easy way out is quite admirable.

“It was random people in-game that would die, join group and start talking smack”, So they weren’t the “self-proclaimed good roamers” then? You’d know their tags if they were self-proclaimed.

I’m confused by your posts, as well as your attitude. None of these posts were directed at you nor did they include you, until of course you felt the need to interject. I think I understand why people joined your group to talk kitten now.

They called themselves good roamers when they started talking smack. I do not see how this is confusing to you. It is rather straight forward.

Additionally, this is a match-up thread and therefore any post is open for another to comment on. Don’t like it? Send private messages.

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

A big shout-out to all of the roamers and guild groups we came across this week. These skilled group fights are the only reason I play this game, and I’m sure the same goes for so many of you.

So, thank you to everyone we fought. Keep up the good work, and keep roaming alive.

What skilled enemy groups did you come across? The best I found were average roamers. Even the self-proclaimed good roamers were push overs and would call in more friends when they continuously wiped with even numbers.

I’ll agree, a majority of the fights were very one-sided. But putting people down doesn’t help the overall state of the game. Be thankful for those “average roamers”, and encourage them to keep trying.

If they call in more numbers, take that as a compliment. Most importantly, show some respect. The game needs more guild groups and small man teams.

No, respect is earned.

If the self-proclaimed roamers talk smack and claim that they can 1v2 us, but get whooped in a 1v1 by someone not even running a 1v1 build, or if they repeatedly get wrecked in an even numbers fight, but call in more friends until they have twice the numbers and then talk trash, they deserve no respect.

If the self-proclaimed small-man group repeatedly loses in an even numbers fight and then simply ends up running all the way to their spawn to avoid fighting, they do not deserve respect.

If that group waits until they have significantly more players than you do in order to fight, they do not deserve respect.

If they do want respect, then they can reflect on why they lost an even-numbers engagement and see if they can change their strategy and come again with the same numbers. They can change who they target, how they approach the fight, their trait setup, class make-up etc. and come back with the same numbers to try and win. If they do that, then they deserve respect.

I have not come across any groups like that yet this week.

Not trying to start kitten, but I’m curious who these self proclaimed roamers that supposedly talked kitten are. This thread has been pretty tame in that regard, and I can’t think of anyone who posted claiming to be the best 1v1 player. Also what guild do you run with, just wondering if I ran into you at all, because if I did I would be quite surprised if you didn’t find it a good fight.

It was random people in-game that would die, join group and start talking smack etc.. I honestly don’t remember the guild tags on the occasions it happened.

I roam with the tag [STD], however the friends I play with use their own tags.

Just to clear things up, I have no problem with people who fight but aren’t good as long as they don’t resort to overwhelming numbers to win. If a person repeatedly tries to win with the same numbers and regardless of whether they end up winning or losing, it shows a certain type of mentality that I have much respect for. Challenging yourself and trying to better yourself instead of taking the easy way out is quite admirable.

Perphection.8209:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

A big shout-out to all of the roamers and guild groups we came across this week. These skilled group fights are the only reason I play this game, and I’m sure the same goes for so many of you.

So, thank you to everyone we fought. Keep up the good work, and keep roaming alive.

What skilled enemy groups did you come across? The best I found were average roamers. Even the self-proclaimed good roamers were push overs and would call in more friends when they continuously wiped with even numbers.

I’ll agree, a majority of the fights were very one-sided. But putting people down doesn’t help the overall state of the game. Be thankful for those “average roamers”, and encourage them to keep trying.

If they call in more numbers, take that as a compliment. Most importantly, show some respect. The game needs more guild groups and small man teams.

No, respect is earned.

If the self-proclaimed roamers talk smack and claim that they can 1v2 us, but get whooped in a 1v1 by someone not even running a 1v1 build, or if they repeatedly get wrecked in an even numbers fight, but call in more friends until they have twice the numbers and then talk trash, they deserve no respect.

If the self-proclaimed small-man group repeatedly loses in an even numbers fight and then simply ends up running all the way to their spawn to avoid fighting, they do not deserve respect.

If that group waits until they have significantly more players than you do in order to fight, they do not deserve respect.

If they do want respect, then they can reflect on why they lost an even-numbers engagement and see if they can change their strategy and come again with the same numbers. They can change who they target, how they approach the fight, their trait setup, class make-up etc. and come back with the same numbers to try and win. If they do that, then they deserve respect.

I have not come across any groups like that yet this week.

EFWinters.5421:

Azaruil.3406:

Perphection.8209:

A big shout-out to all of the roamers and guild groups we came across this week. These skilled group fights are the only reason I play this game, and I’m sure the same goes for so many of you.

So, thank you to everyone we fought. Keep up the good work, and keep roaming alive.

What skilled enemy groups did you come across? The best I found were average roamers. Even the self-proclaimed good roamers were push overs and would call in more friends when they continuously wiped with even numbers.

I’m curious, why did you transfer to the same server as VP? I thought you had mild relationship issues with them.

You either have a fantastic memory or looked quite far back into my post history :p

I wouldn’t let someone I dislike get in the way of my having fun. I wanted a more active battlefield and I found that. Although to be honest, if I could fight against BP every week I would prefer it, as BP has a lot of roaming groups and 10-15 mans as opposed to servers that mainly mega-blob.

Perphection.8209:

A big shout-out to all of the roamers and guild groups we came across this week. These skilled group fights are the only reason I play this game, and I’m sure the same goes for so many of you.

So, thank you to everyone we fought. Keep up the good work, and keep roaming alive.

What skilled enemy groups did you come across? The best I found were average roamers. Even the self-proclaimed good roamers were push overs and would call in more friends when they continuously wiped with even numbers.

Sumwun.3846:

A picture says a thousand words. Who ever said that is an idiot. this picture says 1.

Alliance.

Clear as day, proof is in the pudding, let there be light. If you observe my only needed piece of evidence you will notice, clearly, that there is a fix going on between Ebay and BP. DESPITE what some would claim. Borlis to the left of me, and ebay to the right. WTF’s a man to do stuck in the middle of that fight? we won. that’s right. but who gets left in the middle? poor YB. why? B. why? Because. YB cause we love you. (that’s gold right there)

Anyhow look more if you will. Notice. that on the center of the picture is Yaks bend. and to our right. Ebay, and to our Left? borlis. now if you look back to the right, you will notice Ebay is still standing there waiting to attack us after borlis distracts us. but thats ok. keep looking. look a little more. notice to the right, where Ebay is preparing to attack us still… a single borlis. Standing there with another asuran Ebay. holding hands maybe? yea. Nuff said

cool it with the cheating and play the game how I feel it should be played. It’s clearly impossible to derail my plan thinking alternatively or taking advantage of opportunity when presents itself. Therefore you must be cheating. Luckily for each and every one of you in this screen shot I got some extra good sexin from ma’lady and I have decided to not report anyone. because I’m an extra nice guy too as well.

Hey, genius.

For starters, the 2 BP on the right within the EB players are dead. See that dark bar under their names? It indicates they are dead. That bar fills up if someone is trying to res them from the dead.

Secondly, you have 50 players in your own screen cap (mini map) with a bunch of them on siege. Yet even with all of that, you’re afraid to push the measly amount of enemies out? Maybe if you stepped out of a huge zerg for once, you’d learn how to use your skills and class properly. Maybe even learn what the dodge roll button is.

DEFIANT.9813:

Btw Warriors have cooldowns you cant spam skills on warrior thief sure can spam hs,hs,hs,hs,hs and get idk maybe 2000 range plus steal goes up to what now a days???? oh ya 1500 range says my thief. Sorry I cant solo a full party with a thief pistol dagger thief in the bunch hitting 2k on steal my stealth skills wont be enough to help me recover and my melee cant hit a ranger shooting me with his pet and thief on me so anything else I should say sorry for? Cause I don’t understand why you are mad :P

I honestly have difficulty understanding you.

So you decided to make a post on the forums because you killed a person who you thought was our guildie (but wasn’t) and apparently were bothered that you didn’t want to fight 2-3 people (not a full party). Thief, warrior and necro. Thief wasn’t using a pistol and there wasn’t a ranger. Even when just the thief and warrior were chasing you, you didn’t even give it a try. I have less mobility on my warrior than your build, but can still engage in 1v3’s, test out the waters and if the fight is too tough, pull out and escape unharmed. So you’re not that good a warrior and don’t want to test it out? Ok, fair enough. I can’t force you to try and fight a 1v2 or 1v3.

So why are you complaining? Are you trying to say something along the lines of “You iz all badz” or something? If so, read the bit where I just said you didn’t even try to 1v2 when the other two chased you.

Did you make that post for another reason? If so, you need to be more clear about your intention, because right now it simply sounds like you’re try to reclaim lost confidence or something.

Jeknar.6184:

Azaruil.3406:

The reason many of them say that they are bored is because those are often the same people that don’t go anywhere without a 30 man zerg. When you make sure that you severely outnumber your foe every time you fight, of course it will be boring.

The reason you don’t see a lot of IoJ on ETBL or HoDBL for larger stretches of the night is that they only come if there is an IoJ zerg.

It would be more fun if those 30-man blobs split in two as the fights would be more competitive.

30-man blobs? You’re being quite generous there… I’m sure they have much more than that.

They might, but the 30-man is quite standard. Whenever I come across IoJ, it is in 30-man blobs.

Take a tower on their BL to create some action? 30-man blob.

Someone is taking a camp on your BL? 30-man blob.

Kill a centaur in EB? 30-man blob.

It is very rare that 10-15 will respond to anything. It always ends up being 30.

CAPT wheat roll.5743:

Good fights to you too! This was FIRE second attempt at roaming we where mainly PvE for a long time starting to branch to WvW we got targeting and build issues but its nothing a little practice wont fix

Keep the fights coming!

Well you guys already have my respect for coming back after losing and trying to win the fights. You guys had good focus fire on our staff ele when you guys pushed on us at Bay where we build the cata. You guys might have been missing the cc on him, not sure.

If you guys have any questions in regard to class make-up and builds for ~5-man roaming groups, feel free to give me a shout.

Loken.9724:

Bored? How are you bored? Tbph when i log on during NA prime. I’m not impressed. I see IOJBL 3/4s ours. I see ETBL COMPLETELY empty of IOJ. I see HODBL COMPLETELY empty of IOJ. EB is 4/5th controlled by IOJ. Out-manned buff on ETBL + HODBL (i love that btw..works for my guild). By the time i log off from NA prime ETBL and HODBL are usually starting to turn back to their home servers.

So what? Don’t want to venture to far from that karma train in EB? I personally have spent 100% of my time in ETBL and HODBL looking for fights and flipping keeps. Its not at ALL boring. I encounter so few IOJ, its like a desolate wasteland everyone fears to traverse.

Okay so maybe you don’t play NA prime and are on an off-shift. Well than ya. It was boring.

But hey. I’m new here. What do i know?

The reason many of them say that they are bored is because those are often the same people that don’t go anywhere without a 30 man zerg. When you make sure that you severely outnumber your foe every time you fight, of course it will be boring.

The reason you don’t see a lot of IoJ on ETBL or HoDBL for larger stretches of the night is that they only come if there is an IoJ zerg.

It would be more fun if those 30-man blobs split in two as the fights would be more competitive.

Had some fun fights tonight on HoD BL against [Core] and [PPK]. We had 12-15 earlier in the night, but dropped down to 8-9 when you guys took Briar back with the break-out. (Siegerazor is OP) Unfortunately the BL flooded with more of your guys and then more of our guys. Hopefully we’ll get to fight some more against each other this week.

Mayhem.1935:

I think HoD is training for the Olympics. They are always running, especially from fights. Go for the gold guys, you can do it.

If you stopped bringing at least twice the numbers to any given fight, people might actually fight. Until then, keep falsely thinking that you and your guild are good, as even average would be too generous a word.

Bllade.1029:

Hey you guys are right, HoD zergs are skill-less.

Should make them easier to farm right? I’m not gonna give any super secrets away, but nothing like a couple well placed arrow carts, staff guardians and a choke point can’t handle AMIRITE?!

Think HoD is bad? I implore you to play Kaineng one day. Their zergs actually do have skill, so not only will they mop the floor in a ZvZ fight with your server, their pugs are disciplined to the point where they won’t even break off for a decent small man fight.

You literally fight extremely coordinated zergs all week long. Every person hugs the commanders kitten , like they are still in tier 3. I’m not even kidding.

And one of their guilds alone will take 10 people, and absolutely molest your fairweather pug zerg.

That is something that truly sucks, not a kitten thing you can do about it.

But HoD zergs? Like watching kittens lick the windows on the short bus. Many numbers, yeah. But just PvE’ers lookin’ for a new tower grind. Get your best WvW’ers together, and hit one of our zergs head on and half of em will run when people start hittin’ the dirt.

I promise. Some of my guildies laugh at the things said in map chat and in team chat like ‘Man these guys suck’ or ‘Man they don’t even put up a fight’ but these are the same guys who book it to pavilion farming when tower caps aren’t as simple as building some rams and playing pocket pool.

Same goes for 80% of our commanders too. Only show up when things are easy. Funny really.

The kaineng zergs I came across were pretty weak. Even the guild zergs of theirs I came across were weak.

kevinmrstowe.4098:

Azaruil.3406:

Jscull.2514:

Oozo.7856:

Jscull.2514:

Oozo.7856:

Most viable solo or duo builds are gimmick builds in order to help deal with those not so rare moments when you get swarmed. That nature of the game forces smaller groups to run high stealth, mobility, and/or bunker.

We don’t run high stealth/ mobility / bunker builds…. And we still get 2-300 kills a night…So as good players know, it’s gimmick b/c good players shouldn’t rely on that crap to win.

And that “bunker” Mesmer doesn’t run in our actual group. We run a shatter. The thief doesn’t run in our actual group. We don’t run bunkers or thieves…

You use the mesmer and thief to stealth for rezzing all the time (which is good play). Do you consider relying on stealth and refuge to revive downed players a gimmick? Some might. Do you consider what other people do to be a gimmick, but what you do not to be?

IMO, if it isn’t cheating then you just have to learn to deal with it and find ways to counter it even if it does seem cheap to you.

Some of the fights SPCA pulls off in their movies are very impressive. They aren’t winning fights only because they are using gimmicks. They are winning fights because they are good players using well-thought out builds. Do you have a movie 2v4ing an accomplished small man group?

Maybe we should give credit where credit is due.

Oozo,
I like most of your posts because you keep a level head except when you guys played the SPCA trolls and by that I mean teivo Kevin ect. Pony and waff don’t really troll at all they just play. Anyways, thanks for the semi compliment of “and established guild” but truthfully watch that video. We had 2 PAXA running BRAND new classes and 2 KoM late afternoon pug pickups not in vent. I have read you use pugs/non-organized due to no voice chat all the time as reasonining for things, so here it is for you. Waff and rack r good players but hit us on a kitten poor setup. Wedo wasn’t on shatter mes, and I wasn’t on guardian. He was on staff ele, I was on necro for the first time in 7 months. KoM had a bunker warrior… That we dont know personally, and aza was on a staff ele…. We did a combined total of 42 dmg over time points….. Granted they played well so there is credit. But plz don’t act like my team was on and we just couldn’t crack 2 SPCA.

Is that the time I had switched to staff to deal with the large number of nsp only to find 2 SPCA right outside out spawn? As soon as I switched to d/d, it took 3 attacks to turn the tide and force them to run at which point we won. The amount of importance builds have in this game is a bit ridiculous to be honest.

O I see what you did there. What you’re saying is when you went back into spawn, respecc’d and put on diff gear to help u tolerate that booty slapping Rackin was giving u, U WON!

-GJ

My booty was not being slapped, it was firmly in place. The staff however is useless against 2 people who move a lot. D/D offers more quick direct damage and single target lockdown.

Jscull.2514:

Oozo.7856:

Jscull.2514:

Oozo.7856:

Most viable solo or duo builds are gimmick builds in order to help deal with those not so rare moments when you get swarmed. That nature of the game forces smaller groups to run high stealth, mobility, and/or bunker.

We don’t run high stealth/ mobility / bunker builds…. And we still get 2-300 kills a night…So as good players know, it’s gimmick b/c good players shouldn’t rely on that crap to win.

And that “bunker” Mesmer doesn’t run in our actual group. We run a shatter. The thief doesn’t run in our actual group. We don’t run bunkers or thieves…

You use the mesmer and thief to stealth for rezzing all the time (which is good play). Do you consider relying on stealth and refuge to revive downed players a gimmick? Some might. Do you consider what other people do to be a gimmick, but what you do not to be?

IMO, if it isn’t cheating then you just have to learn to deal with it and find ways to counter it even if it does seem cheap to you.

Some of the fights SPCA pulls off in their movies are very impressive. They aren’t winning fights only because they are using gimmicks. They are winning fights because they are good players using well-thought out builds. Do you have a movie 2v4ing an accomplished small man group?

Maybe we should give credit where credit is due.

Oozo,
I like most of your posts because you keep a level head except when you guys played the SPCA trolls and by that I mean teivo Kevin ect. Pony and waff don’t really troll at all they just play. Anyways, thanks for the semi compliment of “and established guild” but truthfully watch that video. We had 2 PAXA running BRAND new classes and 2 KoM late afternoon pug pickups not in vent. I have read you use pugs/non-organized due to no voice chat all the time as reasonining for things, so here it is for you. Waff and rack r good players but hit us on a kitten poor setup. Wedo wasn’t on shatter mes, and I wasn’t on guardian. He was on staff ele, I was on necro for the first time in 7 months. KoM had a bunker warrior… That we dont know personally, and aza was on a staff ele…. We did a combined total of 42 dmg over time points….. Granted they played well so there is credit. But plz don’t act like my team was on and we just couldn’t crack 2 SPCA.

Is that the time I had switched to staff to deal with the large number of nsp only to find 2 SPCA right outside out spawn? As soon as I switched to d/d, it took 3 attacks to turn the tide and force them to run at which point we won. The amount of importance builds have in this game is a bit ridiculous to be honest.

I was actually trying to be helpful, but it seems you’re more interested in trolling which shouldn’t surprise me, seeing all the troll-posts you have made in this thread. Oh well, one can hope right?

Tots.3056:

osif.8673:

God Tots talks so much trash I wonder if he is actually any good (doubtful after seeing his slow reactions against Teivo and the like).

So much trash talk from KoM and they say “we are more a roaming group than organized 5v5.” You talk it up and run when confronted, I thought the point of this game was to have fun challenging fights.

I prefer the hunt and the chaotic nature of open-field combat to be honest. Organized 5v5’s where people make sure to come with the best build combo to take an opposing 5 in a designated area where you can’t use the terrain as a part of the fight, can’t use surprise for the initial attack etc. bores me. Too much like spvp.

If I get on later, I’ll check and see if there are guildies online who want to do your 5v5 stuff. You didn’t show up at the first fight at the centaur camp and didn’t say you couldn’t make it, thus you forfeit. We won’t be able to make your other suggested timing though. I guess that leaves us one up.

Tots.3056:

Looking for a 5v5 with “baby paxa” ….. message me KoM to set it up. Don’t be scared.

Meet us in Red BL Centaur camp in 6 minutes. If you’re not there, you forfeit the match.

Oozo.7856:

Couple of movies.

3-5vNs
8-10v20-30

2 suggestions. I only watched the beginning a bit and the end from vale to direction spawn.

1: Spacebar makes you jump. Use it to get over obstacles. When you were almost knocked off, you were simply running straight onto something you needed to jump onto until you moved to the side and got on.

2: You guys stretched them out quite well and had a feasible size chase you out, instead of going for the stomp, you guys should have turned on them and aoe dps’d them when they were going for the res on the down guy and created more downed clumps. Might have been able to take them all out before the rest came and then could have waited until the second half of the zerg went for the res on the fully dead bodies before bombing them as well.

Don’t complain, you are fighting against NSP the “small-man server”…

…although, their small-mans will generally run with 10 other small-mans in a 50-person zerg. :

To be honest, it doesn’t matter what server you’re on. Once the enemy dies enough times, they’ll make sure to bring more the next fight and so on.

When we first got on HoD, the enemy would often run in 10-15 man zergs which was great for our 5-man. After a while, they started running in 20-30 man zergs. We decided to alter builds and run 8-10 and those zergs were good for us. Now the enemy normally runs in 40-man zergs. If we were to go to 15-man, they would probably only run around in 60-man zergs. That type of mentality is mostly what you’ll find. In all our time fighting enemies, the only small-mans that would come back consistently with the same numbers and try a different tactic were invi and spca. 2 out of 15+ small man guilds we’ve fought? Terrible odds.

You’re better off doing 5v5’s in star trek online than in GW’s (try it, really)

Toble.2968:

Azaruil.3406:

Toble.2968:

I just want to give a shout out to the PAXA Mesmer with bifrost who decided he wanted to roam with me and Oc against TBE.

<3 bifrost party.

We are rainbros now. (I’ll whip out my staff next time instead of the daggers, I swear I have one too!)

Hey man, where has your brother Rone been lately?

THE RAYGUN?

I heard after we murdered him on GoM a lot, he quit playing.

Not sure if confirm?

Mom never liked him anyways.

What? I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Your username is Toble. Brother Rone…

Toble Rone

Toblerone

Toble.2968:

I just want to give a shout out to the PAXA Mesmer with bifrost who decided he wanted to roam with me and Oc against TBE.

<3 bifrost party.

We are rainbros now. (I’ll whip out my staff next time instead of the daggers, I swear I have one too!)

Hey man, where has your brother Rone been lately?

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Azaruil.3406:

CrazyCanuck.4265:

KoM has achieved the title of best roaming guild NA in my book. Wins 6v3 fights for 10 minutes, loses when it becomes 6v5. Farms 25 stacks and brings in 4 more people, wins 10v4 until it becomes 10v6 and loses, goes back to farming coyotes for stacks again. If that isnt the definition of a top tier roaming guild, I dont know what is.

You mean you guys were sitting in npc/cannon range at bay from our 6 until you had 10-12 at which point you would push out just a bit, but still in range to run back into the cover of your npcs/cannon?

You guys finally pushed in when you had over 12, 4-5 necros alone against our 5 who went back into the camp when some NSP were trying to flip it.

Well done on the 12v5? Maybe you can manage with 10 if you try a bit harder next time.

I guess I missed the day in school where this picture shows 5 people. This is after you got wiped with 4 of the 5 people in my party where you came back in 4 more and wondered why we didnt want to fight you 10v4. There were 2 necros, a thief, and my mesmer. I know it is quite confusing to new people that a mesmer isnt actually 4 people, but 1 person with 3 clones, so maybe that is where your math went wrong. Also tell whoever the warrior is in this picture that they should know that leading with shield block when entering a fight isn’t how you warrior, unless it is you, in which case LOL.

Hey genius, want to read my post again? I said the time you wiped us, we had 5 retreating back into vale to hit some nsp when your 12 finally got gutsy and moved out of cannon/npc range. If you want, I can run up to you alone, snap a quick picture and claim I was solo all night, that doesn’t make it true however.

At the end of the day, we both know that you were afraid to come out of the range of Bay’s defenses with anything less than twice our numbers and when you did, you died from our 6.

ps: I say 6 there, because you guys managed to kill one of our guys earlier on. Yes, you managed to zerg our deaf guildie with cannons and npcs on your side. You should give yourself a pat on the back, you elite superhero. Maybe you can find some more people with physical handicaps and high-five each other for killing them.

CrazyCanuck.4265:

KoM has achieved the title of best roaming guild NA in my book. Wins 6v3 fights for 10 minutes, loses when it becomes 6v5. Farms 25 stacks and brings in 4 more people, wins 10v4 until it becomes 10v6 and loses, goes back to farming coyotes for stacks again. If that isnt the definition of a top tier roaming guild, I dont know what is.

You mean you guys were sitting in npc/cannon range at bay from our 6 until you had 10-12 at which point you would push out just a bit, but still in range to run back into the cover of your npcs/cannon?

You guys finally pushed in when you had over 12, 4-5 necros alone against our 5 who went back into the camp when some NSP were trying to flip it.

Well done on the 12v5? Maybe you can manage with 10 if you try a bit harder next time.

The zones themselves are not too small, Arena-net however decided to shove everything together on the maps and leave large spaces to npc mobs. Maybe whoever came up with that idea thought that players would be dying to fight each other over who can get credit for the events or something. :|

Flerch.4817:

Varc doesn’t need to chest thump a 2v1, they’re probably considered easy for him. He’s more the 5v1 type.

He needs 4 other guys to kill 1 guy?

pssst, 1v5

Tots.3056:

I would be surprised to see you beat DDLG 15v15.

Tots.3056:

We don’t make any ridiculous claims but our core group is rolling your server, look at the score, ask your commanders. We are good at the WvW game. We aren’t a roaming guild and don’t claim to be, but we know how to win WvW. We aren’t the best players in the game and nobody claimed we were. I really don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish by being a kitten on the forums, and I’m going to end it at that.

How entertaining. First you try and act all hard and then you take a mixed approach of playing the victim while simultaneously acting hard in regards to being good at obtaining a high PPT.

Last time we fought DR, BP crushed your server as well. I guess they’re just better at the WvW game than DDLG.

To the rest of DR, I feel bad for you guys that you have this dude as a representative of one of your bigger guilds.

Sentinel.5731:

Azaruil.3406:

Sentinel.5731:

I wonder if DR knows that they have a little baby pet bodyguard in the entire HOD server. Chumps must be REAL mad.

Their zerg is following the NSP zerg into DR territory every time, and even protected SM and then ran away without taking the crippled Castle

Too funny

I have a suggestion for you.

Visit a drought-ridden area of the world. Build a facility aimed at desalinizing and separating water from liquids. Then proceed to build an irrigation system. Set up a drainage system which then collects your QQ while you play guild wars. Link this to the facility which is then linked to the irrigation system you set up. Then invite local labourers to help tend the fields. You would be doing a great service to those in need and by the looks of that last post, you would be a long lasting source of water.

Bahahaha HOD rage. Keep it up. Maybe it will help you win this week =P (although it has not before)

…

You know, when you make a post whining about something in the manner that you did, all it does is show that you were bothered by it. When a person responds by mocking you for your post and you respond to that by saying “they are raging”, you are not fooling anyone.

Everybody reading your initial post thinks that you are whining and “raging” about the issue you mentioned. Seeing your second post, their opinion of you will lower even more as they blatantly see through your weak attempt to maintain your pride. Since that seems to matter to you, may I suggest avoiding saying something in the first place next time?

… or just respond with a generic “you mad bro?” type of line

Sentinel.5731:

I wonder if DR knows that they have a little baby pet bodyguard in the entire HOD server. Chumps must be REAL mad.

Their zerg is following the NSP zerg into DR territory every time, and even protected SM and then ran away without taking the crippled Castle

Too funny

I have a suggestion for you.

Visit a drought-ridden area of the world. Build a facility aimed at desalinizing and separating water from liquids. Then proceed to build an irrigation system. Set up a drainage system which then collects your QQ while you play guild wars. Link this to the facility which is then linked to the irrigation system you set up. Then invite local labourers to help tend the fields. You would be doing a great service to those in need and by the looks of that last post, you would be a long lasting source of water.

Natronix.9827:

Azaruil.3406:

Epsilon Atreides.3816:

obastable.5231:

i don’t have pictures.

but how about a video? http://youtu.be/-crIMg3uTdM

meet KoMPAXA. it was a fun night, especially when we ran in to GT, and wiped our feet on IoJ’s faces a few times together.

-> video courtesy of a guildie – that is not me.

So what we learn here is a group of people on voice comms who are coordinating targets can beat a pug group of comparable size. Amazing, never before have I seen the like. takes notes

The second video is of 8 HoD hitting 25+ IoJ, mostly composed of the HARD guild at their own camp and killing them. Of course, I understand that you would prefer to ignore that as it is embarrassing to you.

Go see. HARD or anyone that was actually actually there gives a kitten. Not me.

Sadly i dont roll with a organized wvw guild.
I turn IoJs pugs into pitbulls. :P

You asked for proof of HoD wiping at least 2 times their number of IoJ and there it is. Instead of trying to act all hard there, you could simply have said something along the lines of “When do you guys play? I’d enjoy meeting you out on the field and testing out our mettle.”

Epsilon Atreides.3816:

obastable.5231:

i don’t have pictures.

but how about a video? http://youtu.be/-crIMg3uTdM

meet KoMPAXA. it was a fun night, especially when we ran in to GT, and wiped our feet on IoJ’s faces a few times together.

-> video courtesy of a guildie – that is not me.

So what we learn here is a group of people on voice comms who are coordinating targets can beat a pug group of comparable size. Amazing, never before have I seen the like. takes notes

The second video is of 8 HoD hitting 25+ IoJ, mostly composed of the HARD guild at their own camp and killing them. Of course, I understand that you would prefer to ignore that as it is embarrassing to you.

Rob.7624:

IvanPwns.6920:

I bet she heard a really good joke.

LvR isnt a WvW guild on NSP.
I didn’t even know it was a guild tbh.
Probably only has 1 member.

PvE nubs are gunna act like PvE nubs

It is. a Bunch of those PB guys were repping that tag before switching back to their PB tags.

What’s with all the whining about AC’s taking down AC’s inside keeps? If you have a problem with it, then just go kill their AC’s. What, your AC inside can’t hit their AC outside? Buttons 1 through 0 are skills that you can use to kill AC’s. Give it a try. If some of you didn’t rely on using siege so much, you might not get rolled by Quaggan guards charging you.

Even though it was zergy, we had some fun fights tonight. Thanks.

I am disappointed. I finally decided to go to this fight night thing but there is no one there. I even went to take a poo and wasn’t ganked.

Is it on a different BL now or something?

The only people who were willing to fight were you VT guys. :|

Agriope.4523:

So! I have returned to the forums, I am glad to see that there are in fact roamers on HoD and DH and that they do not (in general) suck! Hurray! GT and PAXA come to mind as the groups that are coordinated and are “good fights”; everyone else we’ve flattened outright, so I’m hoping to see some new faces at the fight night in an hour and some minutes.

However, [Abys], I am disappoint. I was led to believe you had roamers, and looking forward to it, but having watched you zerg it up with 20+ people at the waypoint (at what, 3 am last night, before the patch?) and refuse to bring out 4 to fight 4, while you were standing in a line actin’ like turds, I am going to call shenanigans on this statement.

PS. Don’t hide behind the statement “asking my commander what we’re doing” if we’re being nice and asking you if you want to 4v4 while you’re standing there doing nothing. Just roll out 4 people and fight 4 on 4, unless of course, you suck, in which case I guess go on with your bad self.

Too much skill and tactics on my screen here. Skill is just overflowing! Gunna have to get myself a straw so I can have some of that skillshake!

10 of you and 20 of them right in front of your spawn. Why didn’t you just go and kill them all? What, can’t handle 1:2 odds? If you’ve “flattened everyone outright”, you should have had no problem taking out those guys. Unless of course your words are more potent than your ability in-game.

Main problem with your build is the lack of damage and survivability.

V in Water cleanses a condition off of you and a teammates when you attune to water. This has good self and team usefulness.
V in Arcana will give you and allies boons and is absolutely key for any ele build.

Also, 15 in water gives a heal everytime you hop into water and 15 in arcana extends the boon length every time you change attunements. No ele should ever run less than 15 in the last two lines.

Too lazy for the other stuff, but this is approximately the build I run in wvw to zerg-bust.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQFAWhImkbox5wjDAEFm8iQRFUUeMzO2A-j0yAoLEMGAFBgKgk9KiGbVrIasq6ApXwUuJV9C7NwkBgZMA-w