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Has the time come for some Brave New Worlds?

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As tempting as any major changes are at this point (I think WvW could use a ton of them), they can’t come in a vacuum and I have zero faith in ANET’s ability or desire to do anything other than little tweaks from here on out. Just enjoy what you can while it lasts and I guess be happy for the memories. The months before launch when the communities were first organizing themselves into groups were some of the most entertaining but then the over-stack until you explode reality of that first year was so disappointing. Can’t fight short sighted human nature even when we’d all be better off if we did.

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Race should matter! A short rant.

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From the title I was so sure this was going to be an asura height bashing thread

Race should add flavor but not advantage. A little more flavor would be nice though.

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Commander Input Needed for Battlegroup Idea

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It seems highly unlikely ANet would spend any significant time, effort or money altering things in this corner of the game when they have an expansion coming in six months that will (they hope) see a major upturn in logins as many lapsed players return. That tide should lift all boats, WvW included.

ANET (and many of us here, myself included) made the same prediction over the summer before HoT dropped and look how that turned out? Desert Borderland actually would have been only a quarter as bad of a mess if WvW had an active population closer to the size of at launch than the languishing one we saw prior to HoT’s release and the fact that the expansion did very little to bump up those numbers even if only for a little while should be a huge red flag to everyone. It would take something entirely new and not just window dressing to get most former players to even want to take quick peek back into WvW. Most of those who quit were burned several times before they broke the cycle and found other hobbies. It would take a whole lot of shiny to win their attention back now.

Also not a commander and hardly even a WvWer anymore but once upon a time community in this game meant something to me. Sadly not anymore so even tho I use to hate the idea of Battlegroups, I now think it is probably the last thing that could keep the game interesting for awhile longer. I just don’t trust ANET to invest the resources or time to get it right. Hope I am wrong for the sake of those of you who have put so much time into this stuff. Best of luck ~cheers

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WvW is part of Guild Wars 2

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It’s not that they’re out touch completely—they’re just several years behind the trends.

This has been the case on almost all of the WvW changes we’ve seen over the years ( I would say more like six to nine months behind than years tho) The turn around time at ANET is so slow for WvW development that by the time they get around to implementing things people can’t even remember when they were clamoring for those same types of changes.

EoTM came out well after queues were so bad that people were leaving the game instead of being incentivized to stop over stacking. About a year before HoT & the Desert Borderland threads about zerg busting map gimmicks and defensive PPT were all the rage on this forum but by the time it dropped we didn’t have any of the players left who wanted to play that way and HoT didn’t promise enough to lure nearly as many back as one may have hoped.

It would have been better if ANET picked the vision for WvW they wanted it be and not waver from it so their devs could road map its evolution well in advance. So what if that would mean they were a lot less responsive to player demands. What good it is getting what you want when it is well after it would have been relevant? It is still hard for me to think about all the wasted opportunities and potential GW2 WvW had without being sad. I doubt anyone else out there is going to try anything quite like it again.

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Curious why more people don't PvP or WvW

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I don’t like PvP, but tried WvW a few times and found it confusing. Getting started on an empty map section, hard to detect which color is yours, silence, no one chats in general, so no way to find out where your supposed team mates are… Am I missing something??

Yeah, sounds like you were missing your community which is sadly a fact for some now with world linking A lot of worlds also take their voice chat channels a little bit too seriously to be super inclusive feeling to new players. I suggest teaming up with some guildies to show you the ropes or ask nicely in /map chat for some guidance.

We might need more information to determine what actually went wrong in your experience tho. What world/server do you play on? What timezone did you enter the map during? On some worlds at some times of the day things can get pretty lonely.

Were you playing on the actual world vs world maps or Edge of the Mists? If on the one of the WvW maps, did you try the Eternal Battleground map first? That one is probably the best to start out on while you are learning as there is usually a public commander tag around during your worlds prime time. If on Edge of the Mists, know that it is a collection of all worlds combined with multiple copies of the map as needed and it is possible to get randomly placed on a nearly empty map that takes a few tricks to get out of.

Did you have both /team and /map chat enabled? In WvW now /team chat is across all 4 maps and can help you find where the action is focused. Your teams color can be determined from the WvW UI screen.

As for me, I don’t play WvW as much anymore since world linking rotations as they have killed the sense of community for me. I do PvP once in awhile but like others here, I am not hardcore enough to take it seriously. I generally ignore the salty talk and just do what I find fun in game solo but MMO’s are always more fun with friends and a sense of community. Sadly GW2 has matured beyond that for many of us.

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Oasis Idea

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Yeah I think it has been suggested before but I still agree with the basic premise as long as the event is not lag inducing, protected from siege camping somehow (dome the top of the pyramid?) and some of those dastardly dino’s get a relocate so jungle battles in the surroundings don’t get so many PvE adds. Given how much people whine about the bloodlust capture points wasting space on Alpine I am surprised to see so many wanting them on Desert too but whatever floats your boat, just sad to see the center gets so little traffic these days.

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How many times have you transferred server?

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once, from JQ (in the beta’s too) to EB just before HoT. Would have stayed on JQ if my friends still played and the original community didn’t go all “recruit everyone” happy, slowly degrading that sense of familiarity it started the game started out with.

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New Worlds

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yeah I am having a real hard time seeing why guilds or solo players would ever want to move to new empty worlds without some serious incentive. Maybe I am just missing something but are there really that many people locked out of full worlds & separated from their guilds right now? You would have lower the WvW map population caps as well as the world population caps to induce any sort of de-stacking and even then queue on reset nite alone are not going to be enough to back some of those bandwagons out of their castles in the sky.

I hate to say it, but this is a ship that left the dock years ago and I don’t see any easy way of getting it back. A nuclear “start it all over, all new servers” option might extend my interest in WvW for a time but like so many point out, without major drive and intervention from ANET we’d right back here again in rather short order so what is the point? Not even sure why I care anymore, only play enough to get my kicks here and there theae days so it probably wont make much difference to someone like me either way.

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Identities of Linked Worlds

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I want server merges instead of server linkings, so no to all 3

This ^

pretty much that

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[Suggestion] WvW Lobby

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Isn’t that what the Obsidian Sanctum is for? I realize it has a JP too. But you can duel peeps from other servers and what not. If you want to do it with friends though the GH is the way to go.

Also let’s not give Anet anymore distractions! They need to fix WvW first before creating new maps or a lobby.

OS is a jp, people can go there to duel or gvg if they want, they can also go on any map to do it. The point of the duel arena in the lobby is to allow players to test stuff out without having to actually craft an entire set to see if a build would be effective, they can test the build out against other players. It is the same thing we have in pvp, it would just be tweaked for wvw where you can craft out and test an entire build the same way you would in wvw but without the restrictions in pvp like having one amulet or one rune set. It would essentially work like an online build editor.

Yes but maybe they could use the existing OS map to build on for something like this. I’ve seen a lot of good suggestions about ways to improve the function of OS to meet more of the dueling/GvG community needs but then we got the guild arena with HoT that was suppose to address those issues. I don’t duel or GvG or hang out in my guild arena so I have no idea how effective that has been but I get the feeling it still leaves a lot to be desired.

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So What Happens If ANET Blows It All UP?

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Desert bl is the product of not taking any feedback. Beta testers stated concerns, and they did nothing.

I’ve recently found out that it wasn’t just beta testers, core testers also expressed the same concerns. At no point did they listen to user feedback at all.

All of the Desert Borderland design ideas came from suggestions on this forum and a lot of different factions of players. Now you can easily argue that once ANET sets down a path they are very slow or unable to adjust course based on real-time feedback but you can’t really say they don’t take ideas from the community. Even the mostly bad stuff like more siege has a vocal segment of the population that supports it.

They do implement a lot of our suggestions, usually just 6 months to a year too late after the idea would actually be useful or the players who asked for it are still around. Just look back over the development cycle & forums of the last 4 years and see those weirdly off set alignments.

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So What Happens If ANET Blows It All UP?

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it would actually likely suck less if ANET didn’t listen to the community and picked a vision for what they wanted WvW to be to stick with instead of all these garbled together pieces of what they thought players asked for, what players said they wanted but didn’t work and how they originally thought WvW was going to be for the long term. Sadly I don’t think many of the ANET devs who had a clue about WvW are left to provide a grand unified plan to do the “blow it up & start over” option justice so be careful what you ask for.

At this point I would have liked to see what the nuclear option looked like but since they scrapped it to go with linking I don’t think we ever will and they certainly don’t have time or staff to start again from scratch right now.

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Open server ajust JQ

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Even for people who are new in jq, " who’s this cloud fly guy? I don’t know but he doesn’t fear death and he’s typing with stars, I must Ctrl t him and press 1"

I must ask, as an NA JQ player who has been on the server for a few years…who’s Cloud Fly?

Wow…

I know, right? I just logged in an alt account to sell at the borderland merch on JQ and saw Cloud Fly run by. o_O I haven’t actually played WvW on JQ in a long time but Cloud Fly isn’t one you forget

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Targetting is horrid

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I have always had the same problem but figured it was just cuz I am a sucky super lame casual. I think being a button masher doesn’t help but then crappy tab targeting forces me to be even more of one. Why would I even ever want to target an enemy wall I can’t damage any how? Couldn’t they make wall health a visual separate from targeting at least?

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Sensible Idea for SMC / EBG Improvement

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Hell, I would blow up SM entirely, turn it into a giant ruined fortress with mazes and broken up chunks of wall everywhere and maybe 3 capture points distributed in the rubble that could add up SMs point value if all controlled. It would be a much improved version of the Alpine Boarderland lake ruins with every thing much more closely packed. I just hate the lag there and pretty much everything about SM except that those 3 ways battles can be fun when your skills will actually fire.

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Server Linking Discussion

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Your polls are ruining this game. 1 up 1 down is a terrible idea. Yet, it will get voted in because of the general population not liking what we currently. have. Just like we voted for linking and that was a terrible decision. You are the game designer.

I don’t agree with Mal very often but when he is right there is no denying it. I’d love to see some details about that “blow it up and start over” option at this point even though it was something I was fervently against before linking. There have got to be better solutions available and 1up 1down or monthly re-links are only going exacerbate the problems we already have. Your player base has no incentive to think about long term consequences. That is what game designers are suppose to do along with maybe a little social engineering to get us there.

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fixing lag should be first priority

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I am going to guess it is a “can’t fix it” issue but admitting that is hard to do so they keep trying small stuff but breaking it again with every new patch. On the other hand, name another game with large scale PvP and high quality graphics . . . . without time dilation

I’ve always been a proponent of lower WvW map populations caps but the majority seem to prefer zerg clashes spamming 1!!111!!!!11QQ11!

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Population calculation

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I think alt accounts might have a lot more of an effect than ANET or any of us can measure. Given the number of players who brag about having accounts across servers and all sides of a match-up it is no surprise to see WvW populations vary wildly week to week. Heck I am not even hardcore but have access to two different alt accounts due to inactive family members if I feel like experiencing different tiers or world pairings.

Take a look at NSP for instance who had been the underdog for a long time and then had their WvW population take a big jump shortly after their first win of this pairing. People just want to have fun and worlds that have maintained good communities through this linking mess attract a lot of those alt account world wanders but only as long as they continue to put out. They can always jump back to their “main” account when the fun takes a downward turn and there is no way easy way for ANET to parse that.

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blow it up and rebuild

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If ANET presents a set of solutions that might help slow or prevent things from ending back up where they are now then I would fully support the nuclear option of starting over. And I am even one of those world pride community first types. At this point I wouldn’t even mind seeing their evil Alliance idea on the table to better visualize the options since what we have now definitely needs a change.

They would be wise to do something that major in conjunction with another expansion or living world series that would be attracting a return of former or new players of course and I am really not sure WvW as we know it will make that far into the future but we can always hope.

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WvW done

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Before linking was a thing ANET said they had a “blow it all up & start over” option on the table but somehow they decided it would have been too controversial and this was just before they started doing polls so we never got to see what the player base actually thought of the idea. Now given how in the first linking poll people seemed to love the links (it was asked much too quickly with too many other changes happening at the same time imo) ANET might have been right about our first knee jerk reaction to the idea of starting over being a negative one but I still would have liked to seen the result. Sadly, MMO’s players & people in general are just really bad at thinking about long term consequences of their choices. /shrug

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How do you counter bandwaggoners?

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at this point don’t enough players have multiple accounts across multiple servers to throw a monkey wrench in anything ANET tries when it comes to locking down or better accounting for active WvW population changes? I am sure we are making their statistics go bonkers enough with just the endlessly transferring around but when one player has two or more accounts they are actively playing that must be a nightmare to pin down.

As for the BW solution, well it is kitten hard to change human nature and pretty kitten late in the game to introduce any major social engineering plans to sway our actions so good luck with it. I’ve given up on the idea of community in this game sadly, ANET blew it pretty hard from the start but I always thought the potential could overcome their heavy handedness. Now I worry those of us left clinging to it are only prolonging our own suffering. I am not a huge fan of EotM but I’ve watched some comms and players make their own little pockets of community in that random mess so maybe generated alliances with zero identity wont be any worse that what we have now.

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Easy WvW Population Fix

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We’ve been asking for it since launch and have always been told it is impossible given how ANET decided to set up their servers so I have to agree with Tongku, the next 24/7 RvR / WvW / MSPvP game has to take this approach but no sense in crying over a past poorly made choice. I just don’t think ANET will ever be trying large scale combat in any of their future games given those who were fans of it have left the company and how much trouble WvW has been for them.

It is also very unfortunate that internet infrastructure is so poorly managed in the US. Most other developed countries get way more for less out of their connections and if the US stepped up we might be able to find a more central location that could offer more equitable speed connections across the globe. Gamers (along with streamers) just need to get together as a voting block to make some changes happen that would be good for the entertainment industry as a whole.

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So World Linking eh?

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It feels like the Realm Pride folks left in this game are actually pretty far in the minority now and world linking was ANET’s way of showing us that, getting us to give up the dream of having a world or community to call our own so they can make WvW into that rotating alliance based game type they wanted last year. At this point with linking I don’t really see how it is that much better off than alliances and I think they came up with a more thorough way of attaining population balance that way so maybe us old timers just have to stop resisting and let ANET have their way. Maybe with the community aspect gone from the game there will still be plenty of salvageable fun bits for those left and the rest of us can truly let go and move on or become the complacent casuals most of us already are anyways. Goodness knows the current fire-and-forget-it meta feeds into that nicely.

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Why you should vote AGAINST shared DBL/ABLs

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Agree with those that say at this point in GW2s development WvW should be less about forcing fake perceived balance and more about maximum fun for the players left w/o driving away too many more of them. You might be surprised by the ways some players figure out how to utilize this mixed borderland to their advantage and the fun others have coming up with methods to counter that. There are a lot of different ways to enjoy WvW and making more options is always a good idea imho.

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Removed crafting stations and vendors.

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It wouldn’t be so bad, except towns in this game like Lion’s Arch take 5 flippin’ minutes to load. Wvw? 10 seconds.

I understand this will give them a better idea of population distribution, but it’s still a huge QoL loss unless they:

  • Add crafting stations to Heart of the Mists (sPvP lobby)
  • Add crafting stations to Guild Halls

This. I wouldn’t mind as much if there was another place to craft without losing your place in the PvE map. Yes I am one of those who has a boat load of alts camped around in various zones for easy access to my favorite bosses, events or resource nodes and yes I am extremely lazy but it works for my limited playtime.

On the bright side, this might single a change in focus for future WvW maps that might be more 3 side balanced like EB instead of borderland style where we might see the number of maps available sliding with changes in population.

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New Tier System

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I think something like this would be possible if NA & EU could be combined for greater variance but since that will never happen it probably will not be popular enough to sell to 75% either side of the pond. And while it would be nice (and even something I’ve suggested in the past) it is generally a bad idea to segregate different play styles because they are actually stronger together and often need each other to thrive. I do wish ANET would consider trying a few more risky things but it is probably too late for that.

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Clean The Slate

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I think both the original semi-leaked post HoT plan to address WvW population imbalance (some kind of alliance plan) and their “blow it up and start over” option probably held elements of this idea. I know a lot of us realm pride types were pretty upset over the idea of alliances and the resulting forum ruckus over the leak sent ANET back to the drawing board but what they came up with (world linking) isn’t really all the great for around 30% of the players anyways (low tiers) and given the poll on maintaining world linking came back pretty highly in favor of it, I am not sure if the forum reaction to the leaked alliance proposal wasn’t just another case of the vocal minority trying to inflict their will on the rest similar to the recent DBL removal vote debacle.

I would be a member of that vocal minority in this instance but would not be opposed to re-visiting some version of the alliance idea with more details. I fear that ship has sailed for now and we will be stuck with the “world-linking” solution for a while now. That should not stop people from making other suggestions however, who knows when that next re-iteration might come. After a few more rounds of world-linking I am not sure those players who were dead set against such proposals will still be around anyways.

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BTW New Poll

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Even tho I do not personally like the DBL I am happy it wont be going away. The map isn’t even really that much of a problem anymore, it is the number of players DBL needs to feel inhabited. I expect only T1 has enough people to keep it remotely full outside of reset which is why that 2 Apline 1 DBL was the best compromise. Wonder if that map can have its population caps increased now that the lag-laser event is toast.

I still say we have too many maps for todays active WvW population anyways regardless of why. Turning EB into a red borderland map for a total of 3 different borderland maps might help the lower tiers but with world linking who knows anything anymore anyways. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. Just goes to show the hardcore WvWers are in the minority, I mean, of course they are, how could they not be?

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Link EU and NA servers?

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ANET devs have said in the past this is not possible due to EU & NA server hardware being in two different physical locations (Texas & Germany I think?) and they (at least last time we asked this question) had no plans to ever change that. Bummer since most major countries outside of the US typically have way better connection speeds due to our lagging infrastructure, we might be all better off connecting to Germany some days.

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WvW Poll 6 June: World Linking Schedule [CLOSED]

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Of course 2 months was the logical compromise. All of these failures at understanding percentages and “re-interpretations” of math are the reason sad USA will end up with wack-a-doodle Drumpf for president.

What I can’t comprehend is how people think more frequent linking is going to result is fresh match-ups in NA? The top 3 tiers are pretty locked no matter who they are linked with and some movement off the bottom lost homeless guest worlds wont be enough to change that unless they all migrate to the same place which I haven’t seen any hints is the plan.

I still wish we had gotten one of these polls for that original decision about the least damaging way to handle population disparity and the bottom tiers. It would have been interesting to see how people now feel about mergers or “blow it all up” after experiencing linked worlds. Maybe sometime in July after the 1st re-linking we will have a better idea what all this actually means for the bottom forced guest communities.

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Poll flooding is no solution in the long term

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maroity of ppl dont care about long term. ppl will jump ship to play new mmo, what matters is now.

Therein lies the problem. ANET can poll and cater to today’s players just like EotM and DBL were designed to cater to a certain segment of the population or fill a certain need but by the time those changes go live a good chunk of the players who wanted them have moved on or the reasons they were a good idea at the time are no longer relevant. I wish there were still devs left who had their own vision of what they wanted WvW to be, even if it wasn’t always something I agreed with at least I understood their motivations. World linking is a stop gap fix that by leaning on like a crutch is going to cost you some pain elsewhere and could exacerbate unforeseen problems when the real fixes get in game.

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merge poll 75%? pls help 12 honorable servers

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I wish they had been a poll about mergers instead of linking knowing what we know now about the effects of this rotating linked worlds garbage. But they decided not to poll us on those other possible population fix discussions they had. Some straight up mergers of the bottom tiers or even the “blow it up and start over” options would be preferable to me over rotating links the way currently implemented.

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WvW borderland rotation poll

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Just wondering, do any of you know why dbl was designed the way it was?

That’s a good question, Swagger. I imagine that a couple posters here will enlighten us all on it.

My thoughts on it is that they were still in HoT design mode, and thought that multiple levels in the bls would also be a very cool idea. Dbls would work, but they need a lot of tweaking. If you’re going to do HoT style multi-level design in wvw, then why not also add the pve HoT feature of gliding? Now there’s something wild…..the thought of a huge zerg gliding over areas of Dbls with rangers shooting them down……lol.

Right now, I think there is probably a different makeup to the wvw team. I think that is the reason for all the communication. And they’re looking at it all with different eyes. Hence the polls.

Just my thoughts on it. And I certainly don’t claim those ideas to be correct or representative of the entire player base. Just my foolish imaginings on it all. /shrug

Well, here’s the thing…

Players are saying “no” to dbl because of the design intent. Ya see, most players who like wvw want more open spaces to have massive battles. The devs intentionally pandered to the crowd complaining about zergs and blobs. So the devs made maps specifically to combat blobs. Bad idea and lack of foresight, goes to show how out of touch the developers are…

The dev’s were actually trying to listen to all those endless threads on this forum about how to break up those zergs and blobs & demanding more map variety. There’s a ton of stuff in the DBL that came from ideas on this forum, just turned out the game no longer had the population to support that intensive of a level of game play. Now we can argue rather casuals or forum goers are in the “majority” of the current active player base but I think we would have the same problem with the discussion on the popularity of the DBL.

Before ANET did the poll thing they actually were trying the reactionary approach and often were doing things to address peoples concerns from this forum. Their problem has always been how kitten long their WvW development cycle is and by the time they had something ready for prime time that the players just spent the last 6 months asking for it is no longer relevant (EotM) or the players who wanted it that way have left game (DBL). I do not envy those poor (not to mention understaffed) developers and it is no wonder we chewed through a few over the last couple of years or had to endure months of silence on these forums.

I still find it a huge waste if a segment of the population convinces them to trash a whole map instead of making more improvements and worry about it turning into a pattern. Doesn’t matter what they do at this point, WvW is pretty stale anyways so just try to enjoy what you can while you can I guess. /shrug

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WvW Poll 31 May: Mixed Borderlands (CLOSED)

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lil, if you’re advocating for a removal of DBL, this is not the right topic. We both know a lot of people (me included) don’t want to (and won’t) play on DBL, but the option of scrapping DBL is out of the table.

So, you think it’s a bad poll. Ok. But repeating it every 2 posts is rather counterproductive.

I was told having Alpine back in Spring was off the table too, see how that works? As long as players do not give up letting them know, NOTHING is off the table. Players just need to make sure they are heard. If Anet does not offer players a poll with the options they want, they create petitions and polls of their own..

When was anyone ever told Alpine’s return was “off the table”?! Before Desert even started testing it was made clear there was a map rotation planed and a lot of us started proposing better ways something like that could work which was more in the line of mixed maps (ideally 3 different ones or fewer maps to cater to the smaller WvW population pre-HoT launch). I would never suggest people stop dreaming big but I think the anti Desert forever crowd is being very unrealistic here. Sure sunk costs are irrelevant but do you really prefer a game that is so scared of change and willing to throw away a year of development time? I would much rather have time back and better spent on smarter population fixes sooner but I would never wish the game to take 3 steps backwards with nothing to show for it. I was never one screaming for new maps but a lot of people were from very early on and a lot of them quit while waiting too.

I still fail to understand how even just having one copy of the DBL is going to ruin the game for Alpine lovers. Options are a good thing.

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WvW Poll 31 May: Mixed Borderlands (CLOSED)

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Of course a mix of borderlands is the more equitable option, everyone gets to choose where and how they want to play anytime and not have to wait 3 months for one or the other map to spin up.

The DBL is actually a pretty fun map with high active populations and mainly just sucked so hard after HoT launch due to low WvW populations getting lower with all that PvE junk added which then turned into a vicious cycle of sucking even harder the less often players bothered to show up for it. Now with linking or whatever more worlds will get to experience the Desert with a decent number of players on it if only those DBL-phobes don’t scare scare all the casuals away with their incessant whining about it.

I have trouble believing there are worlds enough still having borderland queue issues outside of reset to be so worried how one map maybe more players dislike will affect queues on other maps. It could offer a pretty interesting dynamic and I am pretty sure PPTers would adjust their play-style accordingly leaving more room for the PPKers and GvG types to play on the map they prefer. Could be a win/win for all and the dream of a 3rd unique map even if still a year away would make a lot people very happy (hopefully not at the cost of more of those QoL fixes tho). Seems legit, just hope it doesn’t get stuck at the 70% approval mark cuz that would make the DBL haters look more even more pathetic, especially when we have to rotate back to all Desert borderlands in July.

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List of Upcoming WvW Polls

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How about instead of voting your opinion on these future polls yet to be published, people make suggestions on how to better word those polls to actually get answers that will help ANET better please the player base?

For instance, the mixed borderland poll really needs to make it clear what the options are. Many people in this thread are saying “no, never Desert” but I am not sure if that is even a choice or if it should be (seriously? why limit yourself for the future purely out of spite?) If it was made more clear that it would either be a rotation with sometimes all Alpine and sometimes all Desert then for most of us I think the mixed option sounds a lot better. But if it is just a boring yes/no poll again your are going see illogical results that upset more people in the long term.

Kind of like how there is a still a bunch of kittened off players about the reset time back to Fridays thread when they didn’t really take the time to understand their choices. Granted that wasn’t done as an official poll either but I can only imagine if it had been a simple yes/no to Friday reset day poll people would still be just as bitter about the time change which most did not feel they were voting on.

I also think the consequences of more frequent world linkings should be made more clear to poll voters, maybe with some discussion about how often WvW tournaments may be possible under each set of options. I still think world linking is a huge mistake but obviously I am in the minority there according to that most recent poll but given how varied the discussions are surrounding the world linking topic it certainly doesn’t feel like that big of a landslide so I get the feeling a lot players voted yes to keep it just because something was better than nothing. Would have more interesting to see a poll voting on that whole list of options ANET had besides world linking like mergers, blow it all up and start over instead.

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Hypothetically Speaking... New Worlds?

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If it were up to me .. I’d take the bottom 6 servers in NA and merge them in to 3, and set their permanent population cap at somewhere between “medium” and “low” and advertise that these are permanent low population WvW servers designed for their specific style, and then do something similar with the middle servers for medium/high population. That would allow you to move ahead with merging some servers (please give them new names, things that honor the merge and recognize the contributions of both servers to the new team) but also preserve the play styles of the people who are on them by choice. Close them to incoming transfers for the first three weeks while offering all current residents a free transfer off – this would mean merging one set – waiting while their populations choose to stay or go – then merging the next set, allowing for the lower tiers to move up if they wish without being locked out of the mid tiers.

For the long term this seems like the most fair option for all different play styles in NA. Get rid of linking. Give everyone one free world transfer and heavily advertise what “low, mid & high population” tiers means so no one gets stuck somewhere they do not want to be, drastically increase the top 6 tiers population caps with the expectation of 24/7 action and long kitten queues because that seems to be what some people want, keep the bottom low for roaming and tight knit communities and let the mid range be the best of both play styles. This will lock worlds into those categories with only 5 others to ever compete with (18 tiers total, 3 population cap size breakdowns) but if those populations were equal enough matches could still feel dynamic.

I’d also advocate for an in-game way to earn a world transfer, maybe even like a legendary weapon quest type of journey but at the least the option or remove gems from the process entirely (knowing a lot gems will be bought/spent to complete the material rich recipes) so people are more personally invested in their decision to move.

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Additional World Linking Information

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I will be blunt, stop wasting time with this world linking and just merge the servers for good, keep the top 18 servers of each league with their original names (Do not merge the names) and blow up the rest, RIP they had their chance.

I was initially much against such a merger idea given my feelings about world pride and community building but if world linking is the only other choice then I find it much preferable. Do you want to rebuild or find a new home once or every 4 months because for 50% of the servers linking and merging is going to feel the same?

Given the current results of on the poll I am actually kind of surprised to see so much linking push back but it gives me hope maybe a better long term solution might be considered.

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A-Net wants your votes on linking

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very disappointed in these polls by ANET, both in visibility and wording choices. Are they so understaffed now that they have to resort to this kind of pandering? The need for world linking is a band-aid fix for more serious under laying problems. Will they just use this poll to wash their hands clean to say “everything is ok now, we did what the marjority of people wanted”? So sad, so much wasted potential in WvW.

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Reset Time Change Please

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The only logical way to have everyone play when they want on Fridays = reset on Thursday.

Back when the first switch to Saturday for HoT hot fixes was first discussed there were some very eloquent well thought out posts about why Thursday resets actually make more sense not the least of being for equities sake. Then when it came time to vote on returning the reset time to Fridays or proposing an alternative, the exact hours people are now clamoring for were given specifically as blackout times as in NOT possible by ANET (regardless of whether you agree with their reasons or not) in the proposal but people blindly just wanted to scream yes to Friday resets.

Do you all even remember why the original reset time was at first as early as it was (4/5pm PST)? It was some devs job to manually throw a switch that allowed the server shuffle & reset to happen and he had to do that before going home for the weekend but have enough time to fix stuff it something broke. It is no wonder given ANET is a west coast business it got decided on our time zone.

Now of course ANET probably should have changed that reset time a long ago after launch was well underway and everything was working smoothly, as soon as they realized they might want to do Friday nite patches for weekend events but alas they waited for the expansion excuse and in the process somehow got spooked away from the whole idea of weekend events which is sad since I remember fondly all the fun weekend events we got in GW1.

And this is why we can’t have nice things crappy human nature does not allow for rational compromise or long term vision.

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How long will Alpines last?

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The current plan is to rotate the borderlands maps each quarterly update. That said, now that we are actively polling the community, perhaps we can start exploring other options.

For instance, nothing is really stopping us from having a combination of ABL and DBL maps running simultaneously. 2 of one and 1 of the other. If we polled that, and players approved it, then there’d be no need for the rotation, and players on both sides of the issue could play on their preferred map. The downside of course, would be any perception of imbalance that may arise from one map being considered the stronger “Home” map, but we could always give the more defensible map to Red/Blue and leave the less defensible map to Green.

+1

Want to see both maps at the same time.

More options for people to play what they want.

ditto

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WvW Poll 04/28: Scoring vs. QoL (Closed)

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I hope they are at least a little concerned over how close this poll ended up being. There are a lot of issues on both sides that need fixes and maybe we are not best ones determine where devs priorities should be without a lot more details on the long range vision. ANET might also want to do a better job on wording for future polls. At this point it feels like they are being general enough that almost anything they were already working on could qualify as an answer to either option. Obviously more of a PR move to make the community feel involved but probably doesn’t actually really fix much in the end. People here seem to appreciate it tho so kudos.

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Please change reset time

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the reset time is later now because everyone threw such huge hissy fits about ANET (who are on west coast time) doing hot fixes right after reset before the weekend which they say will likely continue to happen. They also felt it would be too much of hardship for them to guarantee they could always get their hot fixes finished before their close of business on Friday nite so just a bit earlier than before of a reset wasn’t going to work either. So that is the trade off. Later reset so it won’t get interrupted.

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Population Balance: Lower map caps?

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The only problem might be related to the desert borderland map (not currently in use) which really requires a higher population to be entertaining but other than that, I’ve always been in favor of lower map caps to help with lag & overpopulation in some time zones.

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[Suggestion] 4 Maps - No Rotation

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this has been much discussed and brought up since before HoT’s launch when news of the Desert borderland first hit the scene as there use to be a lot of players who felt choice and variety should be the preferred path. In most threads on the issue the main concern ends up being the difficulty of fairly scoring asymmetrical maps and how to address the loss of the home borderland mechanic. Lots of alternative methods were proposed by various community members but with no input from ANET during those times (likely swamped by HoT ship deadlines & then HoT fixes) we were never given any hints which solutions were remotely within the realm of possibility for that I guess non-existent WvW team.

I want to trust that ANET is aware of the situation and that maybe a potential 3rd borderland style map is currently under development but given how long new maps take to get done (more than a year?! and then almost as long to be reasonably playable) I sort of wish back last July when we started making a fuss about it, someone in charge would have started moving things in a direction where it would be apparent to players what to expect in the future. This piecemeal reactionary approach is just going to make WvW that much worse in the long run. How can we make intelligent comments on ideas without a better understand of which kinds of solutions devs are currently favoring.

A selection of smaller dynamic maps that spin up as existing become full could be one solution but now with server linking that seems unlikely. Getting rid of the Borderland mechanic entirely is another possibility but for some reason players seem highly resistant to that rather harmless concept, and that is coming from a Realm Pride enthusiast. Lots of WvWers think the EotM map makes for a poor representation of WvW playstyles but that is really more about the choice of players on the map than the map itself. It has its fun parts and frustrating parts just like all maps and with the choice to play on one of the other 3 maps instead, well it would not be the end of world for anyone.

Just feels like another one of those things we’ve been taking about here forever and never seeing much consensus on. /shrug

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Remove EoTM or limit its use

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I have a dream: a reworked eotm (less edges and pve) which would function as “borderland”, with DBL as 2nd BL and Alpine BL as third BL and, of course, EBG.

Concur, said it before, saying it again.

WvW: 1 EB, 1 EoTM, 1 ABL (three-sided design), 1 DBL (three-sided design).

What does this do:

  • Gives people that like flat maps, 2 maps
  • Gives people that like chokes and edges, 2 maps
  • Rolls EoTM into WvW for scoring and population
  • Doesn’t please any one side completely, meaning a little for all but not all for 1
  • Adds variety for people to choose from as far as maps

Now how they handle EoTM as far as just your server versus all, that requires further discussion and if they end up rolling the servers up in some new system we hear about in a few weeks or if they consolidate servers.

Tis my dream as well. More choice is always the right answer.

As for what the “majority” of WvW players think they “voted” for on the type of map they rather fight on . . . well excuse me if I don’t buy that steaming pile. When given only an either or option what would you expect after the DBL fail and really what % of the population were even in on that conversation?

No, it makes absolutely no sense to limit the flavors of maps. There’s plenty about the EotM game type is make a lot people happy. All different playstyles should be considered equally valid and then everyone slowly comes to realize we need each other, people with like and opposite view points to make this ship sail. I feel like I’ve been stuck in a time loop since 2003 constantly reliving the hardcore 8v8 vs casual zerg debate from DAoC days. Guys . . . guys it can really all be rainbows and unicorns chasing butterflies if we just get along and share the dream.

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Potential Change to Reset Time

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yep, you all had your chance to propose a different time for Friday reset and people either didn’t bother or said “same time as before” when that original time was specifically called out by ANET as NOT an option. And you wonder why they can’t listen to their player base? . . . we don’t even make sense or actually know what the kitten we want half of the time.

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Desert Borderland, make it like a new EB

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The way to make this work, is remove the Borderlands system, remove the “home” map system. And replace it with just BG maps.

  • EBG (Eternal)
  • ABG (Alpine)
  • DBG (Desert)

Then start working on a way to dynamically adjust the number of maps depending on the population. So if you have 500 people online at reset, you can have 4 or 5 maps so everyone fits. If everyone gone to bed on a Tuesday at 0400 in the morning, just keep up a single copy of EBG (minimum).

I’d add a similarly reworked EotM (MBG?) map to the options. They could possibly even make which map spawns first random so lower population tiers get a chance to play them all over time. Then make a mirror overflow place like the current Edge of the Mists rule set that is sub max level only and also utilized all the map options so uplevels can still learn and level in WvW without stigma or hurting their teams PPT.

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Please don't scrap DBL

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Somehow, people are really convinced that the ABL were full prior to the expansion. Like… they somehow missed the idea that it was in a steady decline.

The issue is that the HOT expansion took a large chunk of those that normally WvW and redirected them away for a time. This gave the impression that the DBL was empty, especially due to its size. This spiraled out of control in perception. Perception is everything. It was perceived that the DBL was the reason that WvW was dying because people forget that WvW was dying, prior. So people huddled up on EB, because it was safe and comfortable.

Even though the DBL was literally built by the groups that now didn’t support it. Thats right, When the WvW team did the Adopt-a-dev program, people asked for more choke points, more items for smaller groups to take. To break up zergs, something to draw in new players, more tactical maps… The new BL has all that.

And there in lies the problem, DBL was everything a lot of forum posters were asking for and yet it still did not work. The more ANET listens to us the worse the game gets. Maybe they tired to do too many things at once but I can’t help but think if they had a more devoted WvW team who had their own vision for what the game should be and stuck to it WvW could gather those that share their vision and the rest of us would know what the kitten to expect out of the game mode for the long run. Instead we are left wondering which of our FotM pipe dreams might show up six months after it was relevant. >.<

Return of the Alpine map is not going to save the game on its own and if it is done in combination with a group other corrections that would actually be better applied to the game mode with DBL as its map instead then we have a real problem. Sadly at this point I am so bitter over the whole thing that I don’t trust the GW2 player base any more than the rotating understaffed overworked WvW intern who gets stuck trying to make our day dreams reality so all I can say is good luck with any of that.

~Xylla~ [oG] on Ehmry Bay [PiXi]
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Near Fanstastica /Ocean at the End / Blue Eyed Hexe / Andro Queen / Indie Cindee . . .

Potential Change to Reset Time

in WvW

Posted by: PariahX.6970

PariahX.6970

pretty sure the “old time” on Friday was not given as an option and in fact is the time they want to avoid due to patch potential so it seems weird to me that everyone keeps saying “Friday at the old time”. They asked for other time possibilities other than what was given to the exclusion of the time it use to be but please correct me if I am wrong ANET. Just don’t want to see another bunch of WvWers getting their hopes up over a misunderstanding

~Xylla~ [oG] on Ehmry Bay [PiXi]
Xyleia Luxuria / Sweet Little Agony / Morning Glory Wine / Precious Illusionz /
Near Fanstastica /Ocean at the End / Blue Eyed Hexe / Andro Queen / Indie Cindee . . .