Guild Wars 2

Maybe Anet just figures they will let this thread get buried and not have to give us any response. It is truly a despicable way that they have just ignored this thread in general. I am frankly done with giving this company any of my money in the future until these issues are addressed.

Maybe Anet thinks if we just shut up and let this thread get buried then they don’t have to answer for the lack of support. I am frankly fed up and done with ever supporting this company in the future. I don’t care if they put out the best game in the world they will never get another single cent out of me. Until we Mac users are acknowledged and given a voice and heard.

The reason Anet hasn’t fixed this is to be quite honest they haven’t got a clue. They are not the ones whom created the mac client to begin with. They outsourced just like when you call any number of tech support numbers and get some indian named dave. They used a company known as cider wrapper it is a completely different dev team altogether. They were bought out by I believe razer or some other company nvidia maybe. Either way its like that tech support moving to russia and now you’ve got the guy from those credit card commercials you know the one this is peggy. What Anet should have done is done their homework if they were going to go the lazy route and not make a native client and use aspyr as they are great with Mac client game porting. They do amazing work. Either way we are at a point where I am quite certain Anet has no idea what to do. The issue we are suffering from is a memory leak seemingly. You can tell this at least for me because I have 32 yet the game will freeze for just a second it is in this second the memory leak occurs and the client crashes due to an OOM or out of memory issue. I am finally to the point were I am just waiting for the next best thing and will never in the future trust this company with my time or money it is a lesson learned on my part as they have seen this thread grow and grow and it has been barren of any real support from them or indications that they are working to resolve our issues. Instead we see patch after patch that they introduce new shiny objects to the gem store or Windows based fixes. If you step back and look you can see where their priorities lay which is sad because based on this single thread there is a huge Mac client base that purchased this game on this basis that it was going to support it and one day leave the beta stage. I know we are not allowed to speak to legal things in this forum but hypothetically I wonder what would be the outcome of a class action lawsuit against them if all Mac or even just a large portion of them gathered and sought legal repercussions for anets lack of any real support in this matter. Again this is just hypothetical wondering not a threat in any way.

I am in the same boat as many of you in that I have basically given up. After 3 pretty solid years I am pretty let down. The fact that anet is obviously at work to some capacity and released a 64 bit client but has done jack squat for Mac in any of the recent updates is pretty atrocious as a company who solicits support for a specific ecosystem. Needless to say if this is not addressed in a timely manner with at least a response from the devs I’m quite certain myself and the wife will be moving on and probably request a full refund on both hot orders.

Flat out disgusted at the blatant disregard for us Mac users and the dev team at this point. Cannot even go in to EOTM without crashing once every 15 minutes. Pathetically done starting to really regret my purchase of this expansion the content is great but the support for Mac is atrocious. Not to mention we just purchased the expansion for the wife. If they do not address this soon will be pursuing full refunds for both expansions and just move on to something with a better Mac support team.

Wow pass the buck much anet. Honestly it’s like they don’t even read the crash logs it’s mostly to do with memory dumps because of the 32 bit Windows wrapper that they use now they are scratching their heads about it on sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if they honestly just gave up with Mac at this point it either that or they find a better company to use a wrapper with or build a native client.

Just wanted to say TY anet love scrapper so much fun for me and such a welcome change to my engi.

Mossy Gargoyle.3274:

ananda.5946:

Jon Olson.8439:

shaden, what are you current in-game settings? I’m referring to things like character limit, and such. This sounds like an out of memory error, which is rather common with Cider due to it emulating 32-bit Windows. Also, how long do you play (and where) when these occur?

Jon,

This has been a known issue for more than a year (more like two years). HoT just exasperated the situation. Not sure if this dev is still with Anet or not, but here is the discussion from an Anet dev over a year ago:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/support/Client-crashes-during-heavy-graphic-fights/first#post4447940

Setting all of our graphic sliders to the lowest possible setting is not a solution if the claim that OS X is supported is true. Even so, with the graphic settings all set to the lowest positions, you still crash every 10-20 mins depending on what you’re doing. This is the worst the wrapper has ever been. And, before you say, ‘yes, but you have to expect it since it is a wrapper,’ please note that the wrapper used to work just fine, so we all know it can be done.

This situation has been going on for a long, long time and HoT only made it more pronounced. It is obvious that either no QA was done on the Mac client or that the powers that be decided that it was cheaper to not bother to fix the Mac client because only x percent use it but most still made the HoT purchase so you still get the money without providing the product in working order.

So much this. HoT has destabilized the Mac “beta” client to a shocking degree. While the wrapper was imperfect before, it was at least functional. In its current state, the game is unplayable for this Mac user. Frequent crashes near (or not near) events, an inability to use the guild hall interfaces, and a drastic drop in performance have left the Mac client in a shameful state.

I would like to know when these issues will be addressed and why Mac users have been neglected for so long. If the client is not stabilized very soon, I will be seeking a refund for HoT.

I feel the exact same I did not purchase this expansion on the premise that it supports Mac to have this bug infested garbage client wrapper.

Ran one match in PvP conquest and came out crashed. GG Anet GW2 best 2015 mmorpg that supports Mac of 2015 as long as your ok with crashing every 15-30 minutes. Such trash development and support disgusted in the time and money I’ve invested in this trash game and its trash devs.

Drath,
I have the same issue I have a top of the line iMac 5k with all of the highest upgrades the core i7 4ghz 32 gb of ram and dedicated ddr5 4gb gpu. I benchmark higher than my brother brand new PC yet this game crashes once every 15-30 minutes or so. Typically all i do is pvp and when I come out of a match seems there is a memory leak or something cause my fps just drops rapidly and then the game crashes back to the launcher but the launcher is all white. I have to open activity monitor and force close the game then re launch really makes me leery of the fact that I pre ordered the expansion.

It is bull how there are multiple instances of this same type of issue being submitted on these forums for mac people and not a single solitary person responds from Anet yet 1 person running windows and omfg lets just drop what we are doing. SMH

This x1000 I just forked over almost 3600 bucks on a brand new iMac 5k with 32 gb of ram and a dedicated 4 gb of ddr5 memory GPU. I have the top of the line specced iMac of this version with the core i7 with 4.0 ghz turbo boosted up to 4.4 ghz and I crash about the same frequency I typically only have iTunes running in the background while playing so I can listen to my music. Anet has made no effort to address this. In fact the contrary I filed a complaint about 2 weeks ago with the BBB regarding the matter and they replied stating that it is a beta client and to suck it up basically. It is a disgust and quite frankly I am very nearly fed up with the company and the way it has handled its Mac player base. I love this game and even pre ordered the expansion and like you have vested much of my own money on top of just buying the game in the gem store as well as converting people to play before it was F2P thus helping to earn the company more revenue yet here I sit with a client that crashes quite frequently about once or twice every 30 minutes or so. I can typically go a full round of pvp then as soon as I port out I will go to move and suffer from the exact same memory leak this with as I stated 32 gb of ddr3 and 4 gb of dedicated ddr5 gpu memory. Pretty sad really that a company can do this hide behind a client calling it beta for nearly 3 years with no real outlook in the future for us to expect anything of any difference but yet many Mac users continually support this game and get not much in fixes in return.

look up the last patch for mac you will see how supportive this ridiculous company supports its consumers. They just hide behind this bullkitten beta for almost 4 years. Sick of my client crashing every 20 minutes because of a failed development team. Cannot wait until something better comes along I am so gone at that point.

Just a quick update I ran terminal and ran /applications/guild\ wars\ 2.app/contents/MacOS/cider —use-dos-cwd C:Gw2 -- C:\\GW2\\GW2.exe –repair
and just did about an hour of game play with no crashing I don’t know that this fixed it but seems to have improved amount of crashing will update after next session of playing.

I am just disgusted at the fact that this is rampant and has not been even addressed. Just SMH to be honest, I am to the point were I am regretting the time invested in this game because of the blatant disgusting lack of support on this issue. I will be playing and go to move and then bam crash. Attached is a screenshot not much good it will do and I am sure Anet will not address it this will get lost amongst all of the other Mac posts that never get touched.

You can see how much they care based on the silence. I am just so over fed up at this point. I have frequent crashes on Mac client and nothing not a word from them indicating a fix in the future. I am about done with this game if my client keeps crashing every 15-30 minutes of game play.

OP I just want a fully working beta before anything. I cannot run the client right now on my brand new 5k iMac with top specs without it crashing every couple of minutes. It really makes me just SMH TBH I am kinda getting fed up with it but hopefully we will see something in the very near future.

Or you could just save your 2 cents because I care not much about what you say there. Regardless of how diluted you may think in your logic, I purchased a game that claimed to support an OS I don’t need to blame anyone for anything. I should get the exact same game that a Windows gamer gets especially if the part that is being requested does not require any additional programming. Full Screen windowed mode as I stated in my OP is something supported in both Eve online and World of Warcraft as well as Elder Scrolls Online Mac clients.

Also you state that 95% of games that run on Mac are cider wrapped I would love to see your conclusive evidence of these percentages as I am sure you are full of kitten I will leave that alone cough http://www.aspyr.com. As much as I love Windows Fanboys I have reported your post for being 1. Insultive to Mac gamers and 2. derailing the original post with inconclusive random spouts of non factual opinions really. Cause your 95% of mac games statement is laughable at best. Watch I can do it too all Windows games are held together with glue and pieces of old candy corn. See I can state broad ignorant facts too.

I would really love someone from Anet to explain this. As it seems to be a scam that we have to pay the same price as a Windows user but do not get the same experience even though our OS is capable of handling the exact same functionality.

I have dual monitors and for the life of me cannot figure out if this function even exists. I know it does for the Windows client and mac supports this so it is not that it is an exclusive feature to windows. I am wanting to know why I pay for a game that is Mac supported and Windows supported and Windows users get a feature that should be on both clients. There is really no excuse that this would not be implemented. WoW has it for Mac, Eve online has it for Mac. So my question to Anet is why does a Windows user who buys the same game as a Mac user at the same cost get more features? To rephrase I would very much appreciate it if someone could get this implemented as being a Mac user gets very old very fast dealing with this company at times but I have tried to stick it out and its really getting old to find these key features that have no excuse to not exist other than this being a port rather than an actual from the ground up client for Mac as others are doing or at least use a proper port that supports all of the same features. It is definitely not fair however, as a consumer to know that I paid the same amount someone else did but do not get all features even though the machine I run is more than capable of handling that feature.

aye, I meant the Mac client/port must not be supported or buggy either way it crashes horribly at anything above 1080p res.

This is just a quick yes it runs and great on 5k iMac. resolution is set to 1080×1920 as 4k just crashes guild wars doesn’t seem to support it. But runs just fine in normal settings with maxed out graphics settings.

Flumek.9043:

NA:
Nos
OPN- tho no succes on necro yet after patch, so no need to rewatch go4
Idk about active ones, tho i dont think anyone else has video material

Choxie is a wvwer with funny youtube clips and twitch.

EU:
Blackmoa, prototype, djooce, leeto are some esl names.
Forsaker and Posi sometimes play AG cup.
Fibi, flow and probably hollts too arent tourny player but like lets say top1000 or95% in previous standards.

For videos, forsaker also streams, but i think for average beginer hollts chanel is actualy most helpful.

P.S. once you get gud you can start watching vingador stream

please don’t put leeto on here, he is not a top tier player in any way shape or form. He is a rage quitter and a terrible streamer to boot. Just my 2 cents cause #freedomofspeech

I will be in world and suddenly the client will just crash I mostly pvp so this is happening primarily in EOTM havnt tested elsewhere. At one point it cause my Mac to crash and reboot the system. This is a brand new highest specced 5k iMac. So I doubt it’s anything system related and more to do with the god awful port that we get rather than any actual native client.

guess that makes sense why he never replied then. Hey guys new mac works great just don’t participate in world bosses or any real large events otherwise our beta client of 2 years will crash.

Why did Gavian never even update us as to how the office ones are working?

I am trying to find what lord helseths build is, I saw a video on reddit in which he was using typical weapons gs/s/t but elite was time warp and utilities were typical traditional just not sure what point spread and runes/sigs used is anyone know?

Hey, thanks all for the responses I will be sure to check them out any chance on a link to CNC and your channel MightyMicah

looking for a list of some of the better Ele you tubers that are updating regularly please.

I am looking for a solid build with good swift upkeep. Not finding anything in searching that is up to date with latest patch so hoping you guys can help me. Thanks in advance.

I am looking for a group to PvP with nothing hardcore just a competent group that likes to win and plays to do so. I am pretty good with most any class but mainly play ele, mesmer, necro, engi, and thief those are the primarys that I do best with. Hit me up in game if interested mikeew.8607

Edit: I am NA
Edit 2: Over 2000 games played and still looking

Phineas you are honestly not at all paying attention so I am done responding to you. Your focusing on some subject that you have created in your mind and nothing that I have ever even brought up .

thanks I will try your advice.

I literally said grenades feel a certain way Thank god you can read and took that as grenadier.

I find myself having to place grenade barrage at least 3 to 4 times to even actually execute the ability. Which by the time I do typically is way to late.

Its damage just feels like its under performing. That and having to sit and spam abilities to get them to even fire. When I never have to do any of that on any of my other classes. I literally get downed by everything and very rarely am downing anyone anymore unless I run condi.

No how does it seem like a joke? have you not played engi since they re enabled it?

I have been with this game for over 2 years with the recent changes to engi I just feel compared to so many other classes and builds it is so sub optimal and sub par. I loved running my cele rifle nade hybrid iteration but anymore grenade kit feels like an afterthought and I find myself losing way more than I ever used to. I hate feeling like I am pigeonholed into playing a condi build because thats what works. Any suggestions on what I can do or is this just the state of the game. If so I will probably be cutting ties with Guild Wars 2 as the development team just seems to me to have lost sight of what this game was supposed to be and continues to nerf classes until they are no longer enjoyable.

Same issue here was going to start a new thread but this works. My ping will sit right around 60 before patch and after its been horrendous. Jumps up and sits around 100 most of the time and then when it gets really bad it gets up to over 1000 and causes huge lag spikes for me in pvp makes the game incredibly unenjoyable.

Na I am good if you can’t figure it out on your own then the door is right there. I don’t need to prove anything that isn’t already known and stated all over.

This is ridiculous how over powered they are. Ele’s have been pretty op even before patch but with the new changes im about done with this game. This lastest big patch just feels like it had no real thought behind it. There is no balance Warrior run rampage and have a instant gib button ele just knock ppl out with ridiculous burst and sustain and have incredible survivability. I have been playing for 2 years but am honestly thinking about just walking away at this point there is no fun in spvp anymore for me due to the lack of competence in not knowing how to balance classes properly. As it is Anet in all their laziness has just disabled many skills and traits rather than fix them until the next patch god only know when that is. Never seen such lack of concern for keeping their game in motion especially with a big expansion in the near future.

/endrant

Same here I also did a tracert of the ip and noticed that it is in fact on Anets times the high ping seems to be occurring in PA for me.

My character moves left and right on its own when running forward after patch. I have to click on the screen to temp fix this please fix and or look in to this.

My movement is all messed up now from recent patches. My character is always stuck running left or right I have to click the screen to fix it temporarily but then it will happen again within a few minutes. Also thanks for getting rid of the Mac tech support section really helps to know where to post stuff like this.

@briggah thanks so much for your sarcasm. Also your ability to huge how much I play and what modes in which I play. You are exactly the type of person that is wrong with this game. You are ridiculously rude and snarky for no reason. Enjoy your high horse must get lonely at the top of your own pedestal. Anywhoo enough of feedin the trolls right. I don’t know why makes me want to stay more the high cost and low regard of the expansion so far as we know or wonderfully enjoyable people like brigah

@briggah honestly I am not here to get in to a kittening contest with anyone was just stating my bit. No real need to get all hyper competitive with me. If you feel a certain way good on you. There is no need to dare me to do anything or to insult my decisions. So far I love ESO the community seems nice and the questing is nice and the end game looks promising with regular dungeons/veteran dungeons and raiding.

This in all honesty has made it incredibly easy for me to start to take a few steps back after over 2 years of dedicated play. I purchased ESO the other day just for something different this was before the pre release debacle and its almost seeming now like I did it at the perfect time. With the trait changes next week and the pricing and wording of the expansion let alone expecting anyone to pre order something that we know so what I feel to be very little about is beyond the scope of what I am willing to even consider. Anyways I may leave I may not I know that I refuse to pay 50 bucks because it not 50 for me its 50 plus the 10 for a character slot plus another 50 for the wife plus another 10 for her character slot. You can see where the pricing is not competitive at all when everything is said and done. At least not for me not when in the end of things I have paid a total of 120 bucks and gotten what from I can tell is a huge feature patch with no real content to speak of. I have always been more of a PVE type person this game unfortunately is so unsupportive of that its sad. There are no new dungeons that we have been made aware. They talk about these epic large scale encounters with HOT but this is nothing new or inventive we have had this since release with world bosses and tbh they are incredibly boring anymore. They are just not innovating at all imo. They are so focused on making this game a PvP type game that the PVE community is ignored and often pushed aside. These trait changes for example change the entire meta which we will see how that works but from the toons I mainly play I am not at all impressed with the lack of seemingly forethought. Anyways thats just my two or three cents.

My wife and I will not be pre purchasing or purchasing HOT until the pricing is in line with the content released. The fact still remains the base price you still have to purchase a character slot for the new class which is garbage. so thats at least another 10 bucks in gems. So that in reality brings total cost for expansion and to be able to enjoy revenant 60 bucks. no thanks I have dumped enough money in the gem store through the past 2 years, I am just glad I bought Elder Scrolls Online the other day as it will keep me busy for at least a while.

Not sure I follow your logic there fay. If the builds are outdated then to answer my question no they are not viable. The general info is regarding the builds specifically so it thus is also outdated info.

Firstly stop trying to create an argument secondly stop being so naive and listen to anet. They have constantly said the numbers are not hard set so stop hyping something that is not even finalized. That is all