I have seen lots of people complain about elite specs, although there is some tincture of reason in their post, some are down right outrageous. Anyways, I hope Anet won’t run on a rampage to tone down elite specs if that ever happened then I d want them to revert stability pulse on every class; so I jump on Hammer warrior train.
What we need is a condi resist stat, which would work similar to toughness.
For my second point, it would work using your method, but others suggested a completely separate queue for solo players, meaning in the same league, there will be two different sets of players that will never meet.
But so what? The league is not tournament brackets, it’s entirely possible that two players could spend half the season in the Legendary tier and never be in the same match, so what does it matter whether one is in SoloQ while the other is in TeamQ? I don’t think that they should have two entirely different progress tracks, like if you get to Ruby in solo and then attempt team you shouldn’t get dropped back to Amber.
If you log in for the night, worst case scenario you should be able to queue up for a SoloQ match, maybe win that, gain a pip, then immediately queue up a TeamQ match, and win that, gaining a pip right on top of the last one you earned. I see no reason why your position in the League ranking system should be at all affected by your Queuing method.
For example, for people in SoloQ Ruby, the average MMR/Skill could be way lower than in the TeamQ Ruby.
I could see there being a difference between Conquest and Stronghold MMR, but there is no reason why there should be any difference between solo and team queue MMRs, you’re the same player either way, only the impacts of other players would alter your win/loss records.
But in my opinion, it still ignores the underlining issue. If we had Team Speak, we wouldn’t need any other queue implementations. Most of the matches I lost were lost due to poor communication and it’s the only artificial advantage premades have.
You’re saying that they should build it into the game so that every player can be assumed to have TS by default? That might help, but ultimately I think it’s best to just assume that everyone in 5-man has TS while everyone else would not, and leave it at that. Not everyone even has an active mic or wants to use TS.
Made some great points there….
What do you mean by RIP Fero Buff.
Don’t play for 2á3 days so people above your mmr rating get into ruby and you get ‘easier’ matchups. Atleast. What ive been told that should work. Goodluck buddy.
That’s not an advice dude; stop being rude.
Yup, he was streaming… and
Day 14 = ruby with 3 pip; Realized I’ll have to duo if I want to get to diamond.
Build = POWER WARRIOR.
And it also has been explained over and over again that you can “fix” this yourself by making a 5man premade if you think you are highly misrated. No mmr involved anymore.
What would I? I don’t have to 5 man to get a competitive/ 50 50 game. Thats stupid; Anet might as well specify that ranked is only for team. Which is obv. not the case. What type of system forces people to pre made to get fair games??
Getting a team yourself is to avoid the current algorithm doing the job for you knowing how it works regarding average and low MMR. Of course if your MMR is high you would be smiling but if not…
Lol, I know teaming up help, my point was I don’t have to team up to get a fair/competitive game. I have nothing against teaming up since I was able to get out of amber by duo ing. Remember, someone said they fixed the MMR in the middle of last season ( if there is any truth to that statement) why not do the same in season 2?
And it also has been explained over and over again that you can “fix” this yourself by making a 5man premade if you think you are highly misrated. No mmr involved anymore.
What would I? I don’t have to 5 man to get a competitive/ 50 50 game. Thats stupid; Anet might as well specify that ranked is only for team. Which is obv. not the case. What type of system forces people to pre made to get fair games??
With a below average mmr you will – at the moment at least – have a quite high chance of getting matched against a higher mmr team. But thats simply because its a ladder, and you are with your below average mmr too far up compared to your fellow below average mmr players, because you grinded your way out of sapphire into ruby.
Which is why Im re-iterating over and over, to take a break if you are on a constant loosing streak and constantly blown out of matches. Let your fellow below average mmr players catch up to you. Those with a certain grindy mindset will get there. Just some not as fast as others.
Well, no, I wasnt. But now that you mention it… if you cant see the benefit of dueling someone with the counter build to your teambuild… then, Im sorry… but you really arent as good as you think.
Im not even commenting on that “top 8” ToL3.
And anet probably didnt reset mmr because kickoff period would have taken too long for mmr to set itself to correct value. Its why you need pre-season for that.
Also, tbh, Im kinda glad. All those mmr tankers from last season got punished for it now. Way to go anet !Oh yea do not get me wrong, I told you I am not suffering from losing streaks now (sapphire I did)
But again, do you not agree the MMR should also be taken into consideration for the opposing team?
The reset I could understand, but you are forgetting that Anet also gave average players average MMR.
Average mmr to new players was a huge mistake.
Not having pre-season was also one.
And the impact of loosing against a lot higher mmr team should have been lessend by not taking away a pip, but taking away winning streak bonus.
MMR doesnt get downadjusted by much, so that is already implemented.I hit a wall, too, in sapphire. I got matched with the weirdest people… then again in ruby a few days later… so I just gave up on soloqueue and it has been so much better ever since.
Getting in duo is how I also went to attenuate the flow of ppl who have clearly reached higher than they should have. Otherwise it can really be hell to try and carry too hard for too long alone.
Lol, he doesn’t … he keeps on jumping around and his experience is not the barometer of how the system works and what not. The fact are LIMPID AS WATER. The MMR algorithm is faulty. Like, we have made that point again and again; there is no need to go back and forth over something that’s been explained over and over again.
Soldier armor?? And seriously, how are u getting wrekected by pve mobs??
My first second and third suggestions are pretty much the same as the OP.
4 – cap the number of legendary to 50, this way folks in legendary would stop trolling as they will be able to drop division.
5 Instead of prestige, bring back the leaderboard in legendary. So that all 50 members can be displayed on it.
Saw your game with shin last night, but if you says so…
First gear doesn’t matter in spvp, I wish that guy knew it so you wouldn’t lose the game. And second the only way this can happens is if the dc er was in a pre made; otherwise this might be a bug.
No, we won’t! !!
Lmao, thanks for the laughs… metal pips a hahaha and OP asked what are they??? Ahahha.
Well Op, we currently have metal tiers so adding metal pips would be too much. Lol ahahha
Zero counterplay is out!!!!! They did it for the streak !!! 0 games won since S1.
Yeah Killshot warrior or gunflame warriir
Day 13 = Ruby… also kept on getting farmed by DHS. And btw DH engi combo mid is aids guys.. any who I’ll try to get to T2 tomorow.
Build = Power Warrior
That’s a good point to make. That bringing back Alpine is not just about the terrain. It’s a huge part of it but, not the only part of it.
I’m assuming what’s holding up bring Alpine back online is Anet’s desire to rotate the maps more than it’s integrating all of the HoT changes. I really don’t see the difficulty though in adding the HoT changes to Alpine. The seemed to have added the HoT changes to EB cleanly enough. The asset packages are already in place, they just have to be integrated.
From everyone I spoke to that left, if they add HoT changes to Alpine, they still will not come back. Not only do they have to take out the DBL all together, they have to remove HoT mess from all WvW maps including the HoT Banners, Airship, fog, junk popping out of the ground and reducing AC damage on players, making PPK much more valuable and the other things players actually asked or that were ignored to be added instead. Nothing short of that and quickly would make them come back to play… They are already dumping their money into DBO to get set up…Wai uninstalled GW2 already( yea Anet You know that guy who just bought $15,000 gold a few months ago? Good job making him leave too)…This time last year, we were one of the Largest 100% active WvW guilds, now no one even wants to play. Those that are still hanging in there are not having much fun these days. Most commanders have left the game.
Their announcement that they were working on population imbalance and rewards instead of Alpine HoT roll back made a ton of players leave in mass and are setting up shop on DBO now. I have no idea why they would think that was a good thing to say. Seriously.
They need to go back to their roots with GW1.. Use player surveys to make the content, no grind PvP( understand that WvW is a PvP mode), and make sure it is actually WvW players they are surveying and not PvE players just doing dailies..
They need to start the surveys with all the WvW players that just left…
So why would anet cater on your group instead of gw2 population as a whole?
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Unfortunately PvP has now been solely geared towards trying to get people to participate in esports (i.e. play in teams), to make esports faster and more exciting(?), with PvP balance now meaning deliberately “shaking up the meta” by periodically making certain classes stronger and other classes weaker. It is no longer about ensuring the enjoyment of non-esport players (the vast majority), but wasting resources on a niche sub-component in an on-going failed experiment to create a global esports brand that is impossible to achieve under the current strategy.
Whoever is making these terrible decisions needs to go. Accept that nothing is going to change in PvP until this happens. I have rarely seen such self-immolation by a game company before.
I thought Colin already left??? He was the head of the spvp department; I mean, he man-ed up and left, two weeks after this disaster of a MMR we have.
Lol, you came back. I thought you left, and btw you forgot to send me your gear.
Back to the topic, spvp is kittened up atm.
Dude, it’s even worse on sunday. … it’s utter crap. I had better games in enerald/ amber
Idk if I should post here… but happened to me too. Around the same time as OP, it was in kyoto we faced 3 necros and 2 engi.
Server = jade quary Date = 3/7/16
How is this match up even possible??? How kittened up is the MM algorithm? ? Like really??
Also won a game today but didn’t revolve a pip. Talked to a devs in game, she said they were looking into it.
Condi mesmer cost me my series games 4 times … everytime I was 1 pip away from ruby, I kept on going two condi mesmer with moa. FYI, the one u kept on facing eas from best team NA. Just aids, at least I had nice game today, there is nothing different I could have done to win my series. So, I also have to figure out a build for condi mesmer. Like I need to know how many stun break they have. Without Futhermore ado:
Day 12= No progress.
Build = Power Warriir
EDIT : I’ll check their build on meta battle to get a better grip of their combo.
And also I have won a game and didn’t receive a pip.
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Day (Sunday): beat some high profile super pugs. Currently in t6 diamond. Things been going much better lately.
Finally started queing more with friends for duo ques.
Analysis: War still loses to rev 1v1, but with a helpful team, it can be good.
Just don’t take these 1v1s:
Staff rev
condi mesmer
scrapper
So power warrior can beat condi? Given that they are both skilled.
How? nothing was patched nor updated; I think the weekend is full of casual players, had some kittened up game yesterday. I ll see how everything goes tonight. And if you check this post :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Reddit-PvP-Questions-to-Anet/first#post6027978
It looks as if they are not planning on fixing the algorithm which just SUCKS imo.
Thanks for the post, I am so mad atm, but at least they have recognized the game or s2 is disaster. I am close to ruby, I got paired twice with teammates who ALL RUSHED FAR??? Like tf ANET.. We had a team of two ele, seriously Anet; do I really have to tell ruby ele to hold pints? ?? Instead of running around the map like IDIOTS??? RUBY this season is just trash… I had better games in emerald or saphire.
Day 11= No progress. Ping issues and stuff, but really I didn’t perform. I’ll try again tomorow.
Build = Power Warriir
Agree with evrything he said, but the OP is clearly forgetting that all coins have two sides. I don’t know the numbers but some people enjoy this map while other don’t, reverting to pre HOT map would be unfair for the latter. A middle ground is needed indeed. Thus far, I am enjoying this map though, the shrine boost your speed reducing the traveling distance I can make a round trip ( up and down) in 4 min max.
Not to mention:
There’s nothing wrong with the new maps, I actually personally really like them! Them being deserted isn’t anet’s fault, from what I’ve seen it’s too many lazy players: “I’m going to the new BL wanna come” – response: “No, I don’t know that map”
.Me: “well you weren’t born knowing the (now) old BL map either now were ya”, “if you don’t ever go there you’re not ever going to learn it” >.<I don’t really see any new “issues” these new maps have created (besides SkySplitter needing to be removed just like ORBS once upon a time), but I see no reason to not welcome these new maps! Any and all other WvW “issues” can continue to be “worked on” over time…
I agree with everything you said here except.the oasis event; disclaimer= I don’t wvw that much, I mainly spvp. The oasis event are need because on Friday, saturday, Sunday or late night on weekdays, it almost impossible to break a wall due to the amount of people guarding them. Infering from your post, we clearly arent on the same wavelenght, so how about having the lazrr destroy one gate instead of all?
Yup, it’s going to on Gw2 channel. At least that’s what storm said yesterday.
- your division last season and your former winrate mean absolutely nothing as the mm matched you against your own skill level. A terrible player could reach legendary by beating other terrible players.
Wrong!!! The system only uses your MMR to place you in a team; hence, your MMR is not used to find your opponents. Ergo, you can ended up being team up with 4 other low/high MMR players vs another team with 5 high/low MMR players.
you will never get a competitive match in queue anyway.. if you wanna have a competitive match then grab a team and scrim or play a tournament.. that’s how it has always been.
I disagree … I had lots of competitve games last season and still having some this season. The problem is that the probability of having those games is low since our algorithm is X vs X. What you will encounter most of the time is either a Higher MMR against a low MMR teams or vice versa, seldom will you see 500 vs 500.
Idk, I though they said the lopsided games were supposed to stop in amber or emerald.. lol, I guess doesn’t like losing games by 430 pts.
And where is the system working as intended crowd??? And if I may, anyone who has completed his algebra 1 would have known that this was going to happen till legendary. ( Good job anet)
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People will convince themselves by any means necessary that it’s the system screwing them over. That it can’t possibly be their lack of skill. The same thing happens irl. There’s a term for it but it’s escaping me…
Obviously not everyone comprehend nor can read match or English; that’s what I am getting from your post. Because if you had read any of the info posted on MMR, the algorithm being used, you would have seen the bigger picture. It’s truly sad when primates have a better understanding of math/ English than human. (fyi: I am.in the research field)
People will convince themselves by any means necessary that it’s the system screwing them over. That it can’t possibly be their lack of skill. The same thing happens irl. There’s a term for it but it’s escaping me…
It’s a form of projection.
A projection backup by the facts?? Uhm wierd indeed.
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the matchmaking is designed to let good players rise and keep the bad ones down. the matchmaking in season 1 on the other hand matched you with players of the same skill already in the first division which allowed low level players to advance equally which is obviously wrong.
while it might be hard for some players, it’s actually working as intended.
Lol its not…. this idea of yours, has been debunked over and over again. This new system hands High MMR players a win and low MMR players a loss. If you watch any of the pro streamers on twitch, you d realized how stupid you sound; even up there, few are those who get competitive games; most usually win by 300 points or lose by 300 pts. So the system is not designed to advanced high skilled players faster ( MMR doesn’t not always equate to skills, it’s segregating based on MMR.
On top of that new players are given average MMR, which might end up being higher than a diamond player who tried so hard to get to legendary last season.
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Maybe they recorded their winrate last season and compared it with what they have now, and also someone posted a link above, so perhaps gw2efficiency can compute win % based on seasons.
% =( number of ranked game won/ number of ranked games played) * 100 … there you go.
If revenant did not exist, warrior would be in a good spot.
Lose to condi mesmers
Lose to bruiser engineers
Lose to sustainy rangers
Other matchups are reasonable.
This
You should stream tomrow morning dude, I might stop by.
I see the same issues in diamond now. I’m not a top player but I get matches with people from esportz teams like Chaith and Caed?
I’m definitely not their tier but somehow MMR thinks I’m there.
On the flip side, I get matched with random people playing useless warrior and 2 DH against a meta 2 nec/druid/ele/rev comp so rip idk what’s going on anymore.
Lol and I was told the snowball effect or whatever you want to call it was supposed to end two weeks into the league. As if people were never going to catch up. And to you my friend, what the system does is group 5 low MMR player together and match them against 5 High MMR player. So the more you lose, the kittentier your chances of winning will be.
here let me advise.
no… the game is supposed to match you with people with similar MMR.
Game is matching you with the people with similar MMR. What seems to be the problem at Ruby?
you clearly didn’t read my entire post… it doesn’t seem to be working.
Lol he knows that, he was being sarcastic because we have Ben saying the same thing for a week now. All we got was the usual “MMR working as intended” or “git (mind you not get) gud”.
All my opinio: Believe it or not, anet found themselves in a pretty uncomfortable situation regarding warrior. Warrior is still extremely good for WvW, but absolute crap in PvP. So, when you buff warrior in PvP, it becomes op in WvW. And vice versa. Another example of balance having to be split.
I disagree… most warriors will have true 1 vs 1 against someone with equal gear or skill. Don’t be blinded by the wvw videos posted by vanxx, shin, etc.. Unlike spvp, in wvw gear matter. So wvw or split balance is not the problem. Now I am no way saying that warriors are weak.2 but when everyone and their mom can carry by either placing traps are having fear/boon removal on auto whilst warrior always get slapped at the end of every season… you know we have a problem
@OP warrior will never be OP again, cause I have a feeling that’s what you are asking for ’s so frusterating, i used to be able to wipe entire teams and now i get stu.. thats OP dude.
Lol, I can’t tell if this dude is serious. Well, if Anet ever revert the sword nerf; then I will also make sure that they revert any nerf made on warrior since 2012. God revs are evrything under the sun, mobility, dps, etc…
DAY 10= Saphire T5, 5 pip away from ruby. And I had a game vs 3 necro and 2 ele,I knew I was going to lose a pip. Leveling up in ruby won’t be easy!!!
Build = Power warrior.
Most people with MMR are people who tried hard last season to get in either diamond or legendary. I know I did.
I agree, the silverwaste tracks is the most profitable (imo), and also the prices probably dropped because of the influx of casual players. But you can still make more than 1 g with 50 silk sand.

