1) Build
90% meta, rest u can always counter build enemy. Focus is totally ok pick.
Utilitys its hard to beat locust+plague, so you always only pick 3rd utility which is stunbreak/cleanse if possible. Armor, wurm, well of power, rise are my top spots, suffer is so-so…
2) Gameplay and matchups
Get gud, rev druid scrapper dh guard other necro even mesmer and sometimes eles, all those matchups u can win or lose. Theres lots of tricks for each specific 1v1, the more you learn the more you win.
Actually necro is probably 2nd best thing behind revenant, so dont give up, sky is the limit. Im too lazy to write list, ill just highly recomend u watch some noscoc on twitch.
3) Rotations
Once youre gud, win every 1v1 and always +1 next kill/point after. Kills over point, never “stay at home and defend” reaper, always “push far 1v1 even if capped” reaper if enemy decaps your open node youre 4v5 on other 2 sides of map.
Only leave double bunkers alone, those you leave -1 outnumbered to someone who can, sometimes even necro can troll them.
2v1 = insta run or insta die , DONT tell poeple to help you if youre half dead. Respawn and win 1v1 again, often you insta decap with point pressure.
So TLDR,
Use good build,
l2p counter each enemy – its worth it – only diamond skin is hardcounter with no counterplay,
Rotate like DPS not support.
na or eu?
If youre eu you can check us out, there were two other eu guild with 100 poeple who took everyone in but i think they dont exust anymore (REVO and SPVP)
Apparently its a bug introduced with HoT launch.
ALL wells go on FULL CD when interupted. (all not just WoP which is intented to do that since its a stunbreak)
Luckily it doesnt happend very often since the cast times for other 3 wells are short, but it is a bit gamechanging when it happens
I just played another set of games in GS since i just made new div.
Im ashamed i threw a chance to sparr since i had good enemys and i would deserve dishonor stacks.
Ive reported poeple for wearing GS in pvp.
Im not only one, others have also noticed that they must keep their GS hidden at start of match or team will be demoralized and afk.
Hello.
- Stability.
- Resistance.
- Evades.
- Almost sustain aka “long minimal kill time.”
- Unmatched chasing mobilty, aka “double melee? np.”
- Damage.
- Big damage.
- Some zero counterplay damage.
- Boonbot.
- Low Cooldowns + Big Uptimes
- Hard to stomp.
- Great stomper.
- Free rezz every 45seconds
What has changed?…..pugs have caught up that rev > dh
Spectral wal is currently a useless skill since most current specs have over abundance of stability
rev on dodge, wtf
mesmer on shatter
DH with arrow trait
even other necro can get through it.
It is therefore at best protection +1s fear on medium CD, and youre giving up vital persistence for it.
its not exactly bad build, just that there is currently no need for such one.
Power doesnt have it, you can do a condi one but its not true oneshot combo, but rather fighting till u think theyre out of cds and then drop the bomb which 100-0s in next about 5+ seconds
On the topic of predicting his location stealth.
The gyro moves directly into his direction, unless hes close range in circle fiddling like you can with your mini.
So with a bit of gypsy magic u can hit a RS4,5 and marks will also often detonate on gyro and still catch him (300 hit radius, i didnt know that for long time)
The elite shout and Rise minions will make an effect or minion at his location.
Yes, its a skill that reliably fails. Its a waste of workhours they made new, pretty and nonworking tech insted of ctrlv magnet pull
In pvp its about an equal matchup which looks to favor scrapper in high and reaper in low tiers.
Offnode aka open world wvw its like thief or anything with unlimited disengage…
I do play pvp with focus recently, it sometimes gets a runner at 1200.
Ok, now i know it will even out and catch up later, but i think you guys might need a laugh so heres my fresh first soloq of today
1) a thief who still plays thief
2) he has power signet
3) he pushes 1v1 far
….
4) against….. Dragonhunter….
…..
5) 1.43 seconds
I aint even mad
Wwwwwwwaait….. Am i getting this correctly?
Matchmaking = 50% MMR (pure skill value) + 50% division placement (farmpoint value) ?
Example.
I have same high MMR as helseth.
He just became t3 blue.
I am still t2 yellow.
Reason is unluck, class preference, whatever….Matchmaking will therefore keep giving me easier t2 enemies, so i win more, more pips, untill i catch up with my same high mmr and also high division buddies.
please tell me its like this grouch, THAT WOULB BE FANTASTIC AND I WOULD TAKE ALL CRITCISM BACK.
its also exactly same i and others suggested a year ago when we changed to farmpoint system, only i mentioned 90:10 ratioOkay of this is true, then its good.
So how bout when you reached Ruby Division? This is harder to play as a solo quer because you can go down a tier, even two if you get those lose streaks.
If it works like i think, in the 2 months of time, every average joe will reach ruby, as it clearly is reachable with farming.
That means that if you youre good and have high mmr, you will be beating those average guys and steadily climb
Its good system:
- if youre good, you reach high division early with less games
-normal placement with normal bonus for playing normal ammount (aka somewhere in middle where most will be at end)
-if youre late, but good, you will catch up faster (only risk is league ending too soon)
The only thing idk is do tiers also matter and does legendary 1x 2x 3x also count as you said you can drop from leg3 back into leg2 ?
Only alternative is warhorn trait and unholy martyr.
The question is then, which build can afford to go into blood?
Minions ofc.
I had a working condi burst one pre hot, but even that one was clearly better once i dropped terror and master of terror, for vita pers and master of corruption.
VP and just whole soul line is a unavoidable must
Wwwwwwwaait….. Am i getting this correctly?
Matchmaking = 50% MMR (pure skill value) + 50% division placement (farmpoint value) ?
Example.
I have same high MMR as helseth.
He just became t3 blue.
I am still t2 yellow.
Reason is unluck, class preference, whatever….
Matchmaking will therefore keep giving me easier t2 enemies, so i win more, more pips, untill i catch up with my same high mmr and also high division buddies.
please tell me its like this grouch, THAT WOULB BE FANTASTIC AND I WOULD TAKE ALL CRITCISM BACK.
its also exactly same i and others suggested a year ago when we changed to farmpoint system, only i mentioned 90:10 ratio
Random arena is a fitting name for current matchmaking
Can i watch the Vod ?
Hello.
First, the guild teams for challenger are ok, they can stay as their pure ELO based.
What im asking is if you think it would be best to disable this joke of point systems.
Write yes no and 15charrs,
strawpoll tomoroww, gn
Dhuumfire is better against dragonhunter, druid, scrapper.
The crit is better against diamond skin, thieves and zerker mesmers, and if youre a top pro league team and you bet your money on a faster cleave damage with rs4.
The burn is armor ignoring dmg so it ignores protection spammers and its another condi that can act as cover. So its protection vs resist and cleanses, pick whatever counters enemy.
Maybe im missing the point here…
Yes you completalyy missed/missread.
Pro league is top 8 teams in region
Guild challenger is top 9th-12th team that will try to replace someone in ProLeague.
Its money and its not casual.
For casuals theres regular leagues with farmpoint system to grind 2.7 billion games to get legendary backpiece. You also get some guild decorations and small stuff if zoure top25,50,100 guild team
For casual torunaments theres AcademyGaming.
Edit:
The several team names will be trivial probably as it matters which non-Pro team is best placed.
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Yes.
Boon duration + extra stats, its a stronger bunker rune than pack is offensive.
Beside 25% duration bug, it is objectively overstated compared to other runes.
Helseth just lost 2 pips for winning a game on his stream (because they had a player DC and won 4v5). LOL.
Same thing happened to me 5min after i laughed at him, was solo and ofc all other internet stuff worked.
Hello.
Same as Hellseth 5min ago on stream,
i laughed at his incident,
game starts, i get dc,
EVERYTHING ON MY INTERNET WORKS,
only launcher and anet forums are down,
I come back after 1-2min,
EVEN WIN GAME,
comeback 300 pts
…
…
Lose pip.
Thank you
Edit:
Forgot about dishonor timeout, thanks again.
Hello.
What is the reward for high MMR players ?
Are high MMR players “punished” ?
How realistic is for a high rated player to reach whcih division?
When will we be able to see our MMR ?
How is this an improvemnt over the farmboards with 0 value over last year ?
Thank you
Hello.
First, this is using 2 year old personal data and memories from old leaderboards, which were 100% MMR with 0 decay values. But i dont think theres much change in numbers, and poeple are still equally better or worse then each other relatively. So starting points:
1) 50.000 poeple per region played PVP, 98% vs top 2% were “top1000”
2) EVERYONE HAD 50% WIN RATIO
2.1) ONLY top20/100/250 players have HIGHER rate. WHY? medium players win and lose, while that is the population end, where THERE IS NOBODY better for them to lose. My old memories on average:
top 20 = 80%
top 100 = 70%
top 250 = 60%
myself top 500 = 55%
…
Everyone else from top 99 – 0 percentile = 50%
ACTUAL MATH
Div 3 = needs 25 wins in a row
Div 4,5 = needs 30 wins in a row
With a 50/50 winrate, the chances of getting those 30 wins are……..
1 : 1.073.741.824
1 vs Something Billion
“EXPLOIT Strategy”
Be Abjured and go 5-man team during whole night.
Theres very very likely nobody to beat such a team during those hours, so the 30 wins will happen
Everyone else,
with 80% winrate, i got 1:807.793566946 (tell if i made math mistake) ….but its stilll
-800 games
-with all 5 members present
- thats old winrate of Blackjack and ROM who played cheeztanks, their zerker teammates had lower rates
-for 1 division, you need 3x of those
Good luck,
farm stronghold randoms,
Farmpoints > ELO
Hello.
We cannot complete the last 16th chapter, several times tried.
1) sometimes the copyboss bugs, for us caithe bugged twice with firts, we took braham and canach later and it worked.
2) the mordemoth boss after always bugged for us with the rifts. we pull the illusion but the boss stay immuno with 0 dmg. sevral tries and deaths didnt help
So you’re Reaper having problems with Revenant?
Ok…
In Reply to Topic;
[Deadnant] Stab + Resist x Perma = Corrupt Boon sees you and wants you badly.
Here, Ceimash beat me to it and Nos also showed corruption reaper potentially countering mallyx rev. We will see but my 3 problems and predictions are:
-no other team than wakkey+5g+phanta will be able to babysit such a onetrick build just to
-“potentialy” kill a mallyx rev…As your both necros i wont list all RNG related to corupt boon
-if you play build wars, rev can do it better by just switching to regular power build and then its a free kill
I’ll wait.
My intent is to provide a clearer and simpler picture for the ones who smell rev is fishy but dont know where the smell is coming from, in the form of objective numbers.
I believe it is coming from every possible way – only aoe cleanse+heal and chain CC rooms are clear.
So its more of a relative represantation of how bad it is…I think im bad at designing new stuff, so I will only say that by my gut: A third of those crucial team roles/abilities need to be cut off.
Oh there is one specifically:
- Stability ON DODGE
Its just lame.
Passive and spammy.
With waay to high uptime.
If its meant as anti-CC and to reward (good) dodges, id rather give him the whole dodge back if he avoided a CC skill, instead of always giving 40-70% of the strongest boon in game.
OP most think you can have all traits and the 5 legends at the same time. kittening lol’d at “Stability”, and everything else in fact.
2 poeple already provided you with the well known meta rev builds, but if you want it official:
“yes, its the mallyx build” – resistance badumtsss.
The only thing i exagerated was that the mallyx version isnt a boonbot like the power version.
The reason why I intentionally did such a mistake, is that the power version is the #2 current build ingame and equally stronk,
which means
You cannot even counterbuild a revenant as he has a top winning pick for both sides of the matchup
Brokenant.
Im pretty sure its a word.
Hello.
- Stability.
- Resistance.
- Evades.
- Almost sustain aka “long minimal kill time.”
- Unmatched chasing mobilty, aka “double melee? np.”
- Damage.
- Big damage.
- Some zero counterplay damage.
- Boonbot.
- Low Cooldowns + Big Uptimes
- Hard to stomp.
- Great stomper.
- Free rezz every 45seconds
Did i miss anything?
I wont complain about #BuyHOT because i actually suport poeple buying the game,
but i dont think there is anyone who can support current revenant. Please dont hide under “its new and unknown” carpet and list your ideas to improve balance
The build is very weak and looks like something a begginer would come up with, maybe mixed with pve, since p/p has never been used in pvp.
For builds i would therefore highly recomend metabattle.com.
Also note, thief is currently in its weakest state since launch and is almost not used in tournaments but it is enough for soloq play.
Never ever fight xvx, always run for the decap and or run back for +1. And never xvx.
Example from a mesmer main but think its graphic enough
http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth/v/27364498
(first match and 1h00min match)
dolyak signet = warrior
Warrior is currently in ele 2013 state.
It is not viable, dont play it, reroll revenant for the time.
Hello.
I would kindly ask for any tips and combos on beating druids as a reaper, meainly 1v1 but also 2v2 if its good.
-What is worth dodging? what will i facetank but can minimize?
-How to break his heal combo?
-Can i win with 0 lifeforce ?
- Is it worth in risk/time?
Edit:
Druid is staff+GS, both new pets, probably most run roms valkyrie version. For necro im assuming carrion with 0% lifeforce.
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What is the grace period set to right now? Still 60s?
Correct, it is currently set to 60 seconds.
Without SSD, its 40second just to login and get into mists, I assume that as soon as you see the second loading screen for you map, youre technically in and counter stops.
First, is there a way to skip the HOTM loading screen in future?
Second, it seems pretty tight timer, I will assume you will get A LOT of dishonors hapening with 60-90s frame.
I know the timer starts not when your screen freezes but when youre actually kicked out of map aka you see character select, still 15-20s seems too much like playing an action movie to get back into game, all ofc while other internet stuff is working
90s total, aka 40-50s of space to maneuver seems fairer.
In top tier, a dc = 100 points and at least 2cap position, so you will 99% lose the match anyway,
the only point is to not have trolls unpunished and to at least get some gameplay out of the lost match.
Also soloQ and que at least from duel/hotjoin servers
Shouldnt heal be signet since its a 12k heal for others?
Hello.
Diamond skin.
Criticize.
Thank you
Blast.
And 5% per target hit, or rather 10 +3per hit as the shout scalling logic is a great example.
Too bad since double dagger is swag.
Would love to see..
-OUT OF COMBAT ONLY-
Auto regen LF by 1% / sec, only while under < 20%Everywhere: pvp, pve, wvw, pub, home.
Absolutely no game breaking. Absolutely <3 <3 <3
Yup, a lot wanted it OOC like revanant energy,
as it solves the big difference in MIN/MAX scenarios = easier to balance and more constant class.
The value itself?
-all agree its between 20 and 50%.
-As necro personally i do think 50% would be gift from jeezus while not being crazy OP, but i could also live with 20/30. Still prefer the 50 since it also means you CAN lose stuff OOC.
Updated opening post.
Hello ?
What is it ?
Do i need to buy glider collection to get it?
GS3 Death Spiral: gets a short-range (250) dash. Nothing extravagant, just a bit of mobility in the thrust to keep up with fleeing targets. Maybe add a leap finisher.
OMG.
Im mind blown.
DevilMayCry , Dantes Rebellion pierce attack.
Would be soo good, ofc the dash range should be low, with a leap combo.
Example at 0:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3_p0uEnfjc
Edit: maybe the ending thrust hit of the combo at 0:20 even better as its short range
Youre dreaming, i failed #5 on temple mid incline just an hour ago.
Flumek, you’re exaggerating for effect, and it isn’t helping the discussion in any way. You don’t have to like the GS, but just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Cmon,
dont play devils advocate and be honest
I do, or rather would very much like to like it. Even gifted skins for it.
But a personal taste has no effect on a fact.
Im not even exagerating.
Im really not.
In betas and before BB nerf,
the bugged shout and BB gave more lifeforce,
which covered for its weakness.
All I did was revisit my thread, play a few games and gave feedback.
In PVP it has nothing and is therefore a low tier garbage weapon.
In PVE i hear its ok tho.
Also no invul/block helps.
I think you cant only prevent it with “facing”, as it cant fire backwards.
Hello.
Has this bug already been acknowledged? I glimpsed guard and bug forum, so i apologize if repost.
- Dragonhunter F3 virtue , Shield of Courage.
This skill is blocking EVERYTHING from EVERYWHERE , instead of just projectiles from front.
Its basically a 5second shelter, twice with elite recharge.
Explains a lot of “DH OPness”
Edit:
Im not salty, it put the cat instead of five seconds.
I also wanted to “get this bug fixed” as its just so broken that ofc DH can be percieved as too strong with something like it.
If its true,
then Anet is just plain stupid again
10s / 72s block uptime , sigh
Edit2:
I apologize if I may have not tested all angles or if there were chenges to it in meantime.
I also apologize to offending any low tiers defending invulnerabilities with high uptime.
Thank you all for answers, no questions left from my side.
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Sh kiitenest weapon ever
No condi clear
No lifeforce
No mobilty
+
Slow hits and fancy but non working pull
I seriously consider afking games if i see someone wearing it.
bahahahaahahaha
I just…
played another game on GS….
haha it is soo bad i dont think i got carried that hard in a while.
Instead of bribing enemy team to lose, you can just subtly pay necro to go GS.
Hello.
Beside magnet pull, the chain tether from dragonhunter is now the 2nd existing RELIABLE pul in game.
I WANT IT
Like really, our GS pull is even worse than guard GS #5 pull.
1) Do a 600 range shout/hit
2) enemy get debuf
3) activate #5 again to pull guys to you, can keep the fancy animation
If I may ask, what stats and sigils are you all using for your Greatsword? Berserker? Valkyrie? Sigil of Force? Something else?
Amulet only marauder, berserker is too squishy imo.
Valk or any other amulet + GS = BIG FAIL
GS = setting up gravedigger = unrealiable = you cant afford for that 1/10.000 when it hits for it to be a non crit
Sigil
Definetly Hydro + Quickness on swap.
No other stuff comes close, Int is only viable against bad enemy.
Since you mentioned force sigil, ill assume you had PVE in mind.
Im not qualified to talk about PVE much, but nothing beats direct damage modifier sigils. I do have the specialization completed and in just the first HOT map, i can see GS already failing to the mobs, like many others here also said.