Guild Wars 2

zapv.8051:

The problem with necros is that the class is too easy to play. Having to use dodge rolls, blocks, invulns, and healing to stay alive requires effective timing and skill. Managing a huge health pool doesn’t require the same level of skill. It used to be that necros were weaker at higher skill cap, so their ease of play was countered by the classes weakness. Now, necro is balanced or only slightly OP at high skill cap, so they are OP at low/medium skill cap because they are relatively easy to play and require skill to counter (boon strip, cc chain).

The solution is to lower their innate tankiness and force them to use active defenses like most of the other classes.

Zap,
Arent you sort of a veteran? The name rings a bell but the post makes no sense

Anomaly.7612:

There should never ever in any case, ever be a team of 4 stacked classes, yet, this is happening with Necros, and only necros. Never have I seen a team of 4-5 of the same class than Necro.

Are you aware of a concept called statistics?

1) rev and reaper are strongest classes atm. Rev is stronger and too strong since theres way less counter than against necros. A newbie example is that each pro league team stacks 2+ revenants, but none is willing to protect more than 1 reaper.

2) scraper and druid are weaker than above, but way above average. It is their tanking capabilities that makes them almost equally valuable in conquest.

3) any of the above classes can overrun a random pug of random skill levels. It is normal to lose a soloq match against 3 reaper, or scrapper or whatever on enemy team….it is not normal to lose against 3 thieves those classes are just good atm

4) ok general stuff aside lets talk necro
-minions
A popular reaper shout spawns minion that absorb direct dmg from necro. U can ignore the minions they do nothing, and if they dont hit you, they wont absord dmg for their master. Any power or condi build can use this one
Full minions
If its all different types then hes actual minionmaster. Crazy 1v1 but weaker in teamfights. Let him stay afk on node, sneaky decap or outrotate if he moves, or get enough aoes in teamfights to wipe minions. Dont die to explosions
-full heal
Normaly necros cant heal in shroud. A full heal is 99% an ally ele healing them once they exit shroud.
With blighters boon or unholy sanct. U can heal, but it will around 5k max in normal cases. Best counter to just kite the melee shroud still applies

Tldr
Yes necro strong, imo its 2nd overall and just under OP radar. I wouldnt mind shaving down rev scrap reaper and druid. There are counters to stacking necros like any other stack

ah ok, thanks.

Anet i still want to see my MMR, preferably ingame -.-

Hello.

Wasnt it meant to show you your expect winchance for the matchup at end?

Thank you

Its probably unlucky start, EVERYONE is amber so u can get litteraly anytrash level of players.
I get them once every 4 matches atm

So?

Its start of season where EVERYBODY is amber. you can get matched with ANYTRASH and believe it, you will give it 100 games to settle

Gravedigger, necro gs#2
Main megahype attack of the whole 2handed set
1.25 million year cast
clunky, short range, never hits
———————
8.000 dmg on crit

Precision strike, brokennant sword#2
normal skill, the crazy auto was hype but now just normal great auto, the unavoidable uncountarable long evade damage is probably main skil
0.5 sec cast
600 range
aimbot included
———————
7.500 dmg on crit

Deimos, are you asking for a person to stay till 23:59 in office to push magic button at midnight?

Work in usa starts at 9, you check and gather all stuff, push button at 12 and fix new bugs till 17.

Its just latehour for that day on europe, dont encourage chineese slavery

Because enough and extra survival.

Merc or rather any reaper kill combo has enough damage on its own to win a fight.
The thing is always
-how do i make my enemy eat a full spin to win, rather than
-my enemy tanked a full rs4 and lived and healed with 3k hp

Your enemies/obstacles are:
-cleanses and transfers
-blind block evades etc PREVENTING HITS IN FIRST PLACE
-chill uptime

Any reaper can mantain a 200% chill uptime, so there is less need to go overkill with duration, instead the added survival of merc will
-prevent you getting burst downed
-you will be able to afford more counterpressure with trades

Tldr
Wanderer = somebody gets oneshot in 20s
Merc = you probably live and kill at 30-40s
Any Reaper = instant decap 1v1 and instant kill 2v1
Merc > wand

1) Cant new players start low, or does it need to be the average for glicko to work?

2) If it needs to be that way, could we copy a “Placement matches system” , so when someone with zero games joins, "he is just told his next 5 or 10 games will measure his mmr for future games?

Even better – you dont even do anything, just a formality warning. An illusion to not discourage them when placed against an average player.

I think we all agree that a downed finisher on final hit is the theme.

Id just make it really op with a light/dark theme by also rezzing allies on final hit, so its either rezz or stompbot.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

I mentioned this to Bhawb the other day, but I do have an idea for Well of Darkness.

Keep its current effect and cooldown, but make it form an opaque black dome for enemies (allies see it as a transparent dome like the toxic krait bubbles). Inside the dome, it’s like one of the dark rooms in PvE/Obsidian Sanctum (for enemies only). You can’t see things properly in there.

Now, you can still maintain a target, perhaps, but do you know what is being hidden during those 5 seconds? It could be absolutely nothing, or it could be reeeeeeal nasty.

Wouldn’t affect PvE use at all, but I could see some crazy plays coming from it in PvP/WvW.

Well of refuge

A) yes, there will be steamrolls at start

B) after a while you will settle AND STAY in your appropriate league.

Season 1 was basically “GATHER 130 POINTS” . Yes i mean points, as it was same points that came when the leaderboards switched from mmr to points.
It was shown, that the system GENERATES POINTS with close -0 matches, similiar to the casino zero number takes away in roulette.

POINTS PER GAME. This value was positive for all players, even the nooby low winrate nr1 turret engie. It was 0.25 for average and went above 0.50 for the pro league players.
Tldr
Hellseth needed 200 games to reach legend, i average needed 400x AND any baddie would reach it after enough games.

This new system should, like you said,
PRODUCE BARRIER MATCHUPS that you should not overcome unless you are better and need to be in higher division.
The good players will climb up fast, it is question how spread out their climb will be, and how high B and C will climb after As made room for them.

Tldr
Good teams will have massive winstreak at start, then it will be clear win clear loss and they will stay in ruby for example. They might climb into diamond once all good diamonds become legendary etc.

Gravity well does more reliable dmg since it keep you in and triggres interpt dmg. The other pure dmg one has a handy cripple and low CD.
Not arguing about balance or elite vs regular skill, just saying theyre more effective.

The heal and blindwell are indeed a joke.
Heal needs its kindergarden math fail reversed + a cleanse added.
Blind could have 20s CD and i wouldnt slot it so adios pls

Why do we need more neglitcible useless lifesteal? We got blood magic for that once anet decides to combine and adjust all numbers into 1 solid thing

The secondary effect of shouts and GS trait is currently a regular abysmall lifesteal.

Ive always voted for shouts STEALING 1 boon, to not have another corrupt AND the whole up line of reaper traits is meant as tanky brawler. It works with blighters boon.
I would definetly put something boon related to gs to further fuel that theme.

Beside boonsteal, maybe each gs skill generating a specific bbon? Might stab fury prot swiftnes. On 1-5 for example all short 2s

Thank you very much for the heads up.

Do not get discouraged by the feedback, it is only saying that some other stuff is alse affecting the “too tanky” theme.

Please continue with such open posts, thank you.

Askadia.4395:

I may try with CPC. But the self-weakness could be a problem, he can just come closer, in that case I can’t dodge at all.

How is self weakness a problem on condi necro? It doesnt lower your condi ticks only direct dmg (25% on average)

Lorelei.3918:

Why do people say Power reapers aren’t viable? That damage looked pretty kitten viable to me! c:

Rym answered it perfectly, its unreliable, takes time to setup so no on demand burst, and other stuff like power rev are just broken compared to it, both on how easy they do unavoidable dmg and in survival.

Whenever I play GS, i first lose 10-20 games in a row, before I drop to bad enough poeple for it. Hope this gives some perspective, GS = 4v5 and teammates will rightfully afk if they see it

Lahmia.2193:

People have suggested Plague blast replace Life Blast and Anet have said no many times.

Not really, they said nothing for 3 years and recently in the reaper feedback threads it was just mentioned to R.Gee that the core shroud auto is slower and gets less synergie compared to reaper auto.

And the replacement is meant more for lower cast times, not to have both speed and fast transfer rate.

A) The most obvious, needed and simple thing is a faster autoatack.
Simple for better dhuumfire, might and vuln synergie AND less blind/block/interupt for complete shutdown.
Ofc overall DPS stays same.

The underwater condi transfer on autoatack would be a permanent huge milestone like the current scepter corrupt on auto – therefore no future buffs elsewhere I would much rather have a ranged auto be raliable and rewarding spacing , than a clunky overpowered oneshot.

B) Coming back from reaper to base, the biggest thing you notice
IS STABILITY.
A pulsing channel on #5 would imo fit most thematically, mechanically and balance wise – as it is a longer CD that you get to use not everytime but every second entry on average.

C) MOBILITY
I dont mind it that much and its been said to not expect the return of the beta-targeted-leap
If A and B already happen it should be enough. Keep in mind the melee shroud needs more mobility than a ranged one design wise. Maybe increased projectile speed to hit runners…

D) a lower startup cast time for #4 and bigger pulses with tranfusion trait, as it is currently slower than a rezz.
DS-> ds#4-> exitDS-> rezz ….You waste time and complete effects of 2 traits.

This point is completetly arbitrary to balance but just an imrovement for future and not having own traits working against you.

Start casting gs#2
Jump off a ledge and hold space for glide.

YOU DO A 360 WITH YOUR GLIDER, CONGRATZ!!

p.s.
Dont forget to unequip GS before match start or get banned.

Hello.
Not here to whine but maybe my personal feeling is deluded by actual stats. Tho as a small number cruncher i regurarly checked farmpoints to see match win prediction.

Before id say 1-2max out of 10, were blowout matches in the below 200-500 zone.

Nowdays average is probably +3/10, with very common extremes of more than half of history filled with DOUBLE DIGIT lose/wins.

This is excluding:
-offpeak hours, i count 17-24 central eu only, weekends usually worse
-4v5 dcs
-me on trash GS necro, more than 19/20 im on metalevel builds

I did play more solo than before with regular synced roster and i know of 3-5man kitten moments i had with some other friends……but that should drop me 1 quality tier not 3-4

Tldr
Quality is low with big skill range differences, Instead of ABBBC tiers you get ABCDD.
Qpop is fast tho, cant even take bathroom break

Flumek.9043:

Just dont use it and write hate mail or ingame bug reports. Even Anet can read statistics.

Theres no “ugh, maybe, but….”.
The weapon is trash and were just wasting time here talking on how to come up with a working car from a garbage can.

Btw i just felt crazy and threw another game playing GS. What caught my eye tho:

Rev sword#2
7.500 dmg

Not being captain obvious with “rev is OP”, just as comparison on how lame gravedigger is and how many million hindrances there are to the abilities.

Just dont use it and write hate mail or ingame bug reports. Even Anet can read statistics.

Theres no “ugh, maybe, but….”.
The weapon is trash and were just wasting time here talking on how to come up with a working car from a garbage can.

The que times seem much shorter, a lot of instapops and below 2min till latenight today.

Thank you very much for that.

Otherwise,
the quality is regular unrank trash we had since off season. Id be very happy to finaly or even maybe once per week for 10.000 gems be able to see my actual MMR and the enemy ones so I can know if i can afford to play a fun non optimal build for a change. and also when i hit rock mmr bottom, to know its time to put meta tryhard pants back on.

Thank you.

id love an invulnerability and fits the spectral theme with walk and armor.

“All incoming damage is converted into lifeforce”.

Nothing new, just a copy of stance/glint heal but lifeforce to fit theme.

Hello.
Ill be short as i havent watched video and currently on mobile while sick in bed.

The esl tourny scene has pretty much been the top100 players. Pm any of them or their friends that are willing to test you.
If you dont make it, in my signature is a shameless add for our guild which id say is around top1000 or AG level. Id say its a good middle step into tournys and teams..
Gl

If it makes you feel better theres power dmg and farpushbunkers present atm, it shouldnt take much improving to get out of venomshare levels.

Tho the reason why im interested in writiting here is more philosphical:

“Whats wrong with condies?”

Its an equal variant of dealing dmg. Why does it bother poeple more to inevitably die in 10s, but when its an instant 10k burst its fun and skillful?
The mini bunker-burst-DoT-bunker triangle also needs it, so im interested in what is so dislikeable about them?

I like hollts, his videos and the 17k is a nice thing to catch on camera.

The description is missleading this time tho.
GS is trash to the point its justified to report someone using it in pvp….and same for wvw since i hear it now gives points for kills.

its same as rifle warrior since start, yes there were big hit montages, but there never should be anyone labeling it as “not awful”

Great crit tho, my record is 14k in ranked.

I just got the mail, opened, nothing.

Apparently you need to open it ON THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER THAT U REACHED the 6th division with.

I suggest you rewrite the code more smartly if you dont want to deal with complains 1by1.

Pve or pvp?

Pve – u have choice between scholar or strength. most i thik take strength as its safer, permanent 5% + 6s of extra might.
If youre l33t and in l33t group who has no trouble maintaining 25x might, scholar is ofc the best option.

Pvp- scholar is unviable for necro.
Scholar works for thief/mesmer who do a lot of instant burst and they survive throguh invulnerability CDs. Their HP bar looks like this : 100%, evade, 100, invul, 100, dead.
Necro however,
is similiar to big punching bag. You always eat some opening damage, and even if you had 90% hp and went into shroud – the burst or rather sustained autoatacking is not reliable like a instant stealth burst.
THerefore, never take scholar on necro, as you will never get the 10% bonus.

You should be asking blood vs spite, if you dont take soulreaping youre losing more damage and huge survivability.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Dev’s have officially answered this question three times. Ask a forum moderator to sticky it.

Their answer each time made sense. The same as when they answered why life force doesn’t decay like other professions energy mechanics.

The answers were always in connection with a bugfix, warrior adrenaline nerf or the change to prebuffing in pvp.

It was never a stand alone balance and QoL discussion, just a statement on something else to not upset the crowd.

Theres soo many pros a standardiztion would bring, to all 3 sides (player, enemy player and balance dev), that the topic is worth pushing for.

Hammerguard.9834:

Just because you can’t ignore pets doesn’t mean they’re OP. Sorry they aren’t trash like they used to be. Get over it and learn to play.

Just because you skipped math doesnt mean you cant use a calculator to see the 2 new ones are simply overstated compared to other 30 pets. Sorry but their f2 abilities are also overperforming. Get over it and try to think of good balance.

Ps, wb henry

Baseleader.4128:

as long as you have soulmarks you build up lifeforce really quickly. Land 1-2 marks before truly comitting and you have some lifeforce to use

Thats bad design.
We all know how to do it, what i mean is that youre DEMANDING free hits.
Any class can do some ranged free damage, but no ranger needs to land a full longbow channel in order to wake up the pet at all.

Its a snowball mechanic + handy bug of -23% LF on death.

Immediately when poeple saw the itself balancing energy bar of revenant, they wanted a simliar minimal threshhold for lifeforce.
The only Q is how much, most pvp/wvw agree on something 20-50%

The autoatack needs to have a higher firerate. It was shut down since launch and is redundant after hot.

Ofc other abilities need to compete against a leap and stability, but theres no point in being ranged otherwise.

zapv.8051:

Eles need to go up in base vitality, thieves probably could too. Otherwise everything is fine.

My opinion is absolutely NOT.

But thats just an opinion of a necro, whose almighty 20k hp punching bag pool doesnt feel worth the non existent defensive cooldowns.

Basically,
every broken build so far,
was OP because of traits, not cz it had 3k and 200 armor more,
its them having 1-2 extra get out of jail cards (lyssa stability, ports, low CD invulns for example…)

I think everyone likes the redisign of a stupid 100% immunity.

While I am very concerned that 1 cleanse / 1 sec is pretty tough, I know it can easily be tweaked to once every /2 or /3 sec, like most perme cleanse traits.

It would also be same stupid choice to require a signet of skill from necro to land, as that basically means its same once every minute u get a window of opportunity.

Will see what tuesday brings.

Focus needs big fixes or almost mechanical reworks on the 2 skils.

Beside the 2year aftercast , a hovering projectile is probably the least reliable skilltype ingame, where it could have been a copy of mirror blade.

5 is still casting atm , ill coment when it lands on saturn in 2020.

Too much boonspam?

“I say nerf blighters boon again.”

Hello.

With the removal of tank amulets (yes some dire/knight clones are coming but its 550 not double 900 stat aka current celestial level)

Is Blighters Boon ready for the revert?

Or shall they focus on features like autoselect spite and the whole build whenever u pick the trait?

RIP axe meta (oct23-oct28 2015)

My friend predicts 8 days for necros this time

CedarDog.9723:

Worst case, you can remove all decorations…

We know, but its even a worse option.

And its not like you will be able to get to top after deleting your 100+ hour puzzle.

Removing the height limit is the only acceptable outcome.

Hello.

Please remove the new height limit.

It adds nothing but frustration.

Poeple who have Puzzles already have them to top.

We, for example, are stuck with 2 stairs missing ans 200+ snow piles wasted that we cannot even delete (not the want it, REVERT THE CHANGE)

THank you

Hello.

YESTERDAY.

I made a puzzle to the top of guild hall.
TODAY.

They changed the height limit for decorations.

Our guild, is stuck with 200x snow piles stuck above the limit, but we cannot acces or delete the road, since we need 1 cloud replaced to jump on the road of clouds we have built YESTERDAY.

please fix and remove the limit

http://imgur.com/T2s4hWY

I predict ds#1 getting faster firerate but same overall DPS.
Its been talked about with r.geezus and the fluidity and might/burn stacking of reaper recieved positive responses.

Other base things?
-parasitic contagion should work in shroud, though they probably forgot
-signets in shroud
-seeing cooldowns in shroud
-maybe ds2 improved

Reaper traits predictions:
-theyre all solid beside the secondary effects of shouts and GS. Instead of the lousy small siphon, a boonSTEAL is a fair idea to me
-blighters boon getting unsmithers booned ? Just a bit?

A few days ago, noscoc on stream won a 1v1 against a regular condi reaper with GS power.
The interesting thing was,

He.
Didnt.
Land.
A
SINGLE
ABILITY,
from his GS set.

Not like a challenge, it was full on “slowest class necro vs slowest class necro”, on point, he used and tryed all of the GS skills.

So….
Dont let anyone tell you the thing is PVP viable
if you win you won purely from ReaperShroud and other abilities.

Yes, most poeple arent ProLegaue level, but with GS – at any level – youre better off with any random pick of dag/axe + Wh/dag/focus.

Base DS life blast
and staff auto

Those should be more reliable at big range aka faster and higher firerate, with same overall dps, though even a decent increse in staff wouldnt hurt anybody.

Axe.

That one should really be “THE DPS WEAPON”, as it provides nothing else worth mentioning and fits on nothing beside pure, power damage builds.

1. and #2 are equally terrible and all 3x offhands dont exactly fit it either.

I have no idea why diamond exploit and warrior zerker stance havent been changed to resistance.

I just stumbled upon the antitoxin runes giving -24% condi duration. Then -20% from food, and the movement reduction trait…
Do you feel its enough to only have a 30s Consume and a mark?