Well the experience is going towards which ever mastery you are currently leveling
The new wvw maps are pretty confusing as are the new pve maps. I understand what they were going for with gliding and mushrooms but everything’s a bit confusing, going to point A to point B now is kinda difficult even after doing it a couple times
You can earn all your HP in just WvW. What I’ve been doing. Makes it very unenjoyable however. I do however want to experience the new content with my elite specizalation so don’t have a choice. “Play the way you want” lol
Problem is the challenge is around every single corner in the new maps while it should if remained in just raids and fractals. Open world pve just kinda became not as much fun.
4/10.
If they reduce the insane HP amount 8/10.
I assumed that was the legendary armor from raids? Bladed armor and leystone are the only new armor sets so one has to be legendary and I know it’s not the bladed
I agree. Open world pve should never require a group for a HP or to simply navigate around the map. Things do need toned down.
Raids and high level fractals were designed for these hardcore folk that can play much more then regular people.
I see 0 reason why it wouldn’t be a good idea.
Players can then level an elite specizalation, complete the masteries as they choose, then ults can do the HP as they now would have access to it
Yes there is going to be bugs and patches. But for an mmo was this the best launch ever or what? I started the DL about 5 hours after launch, speed was fine and went fast, I didn’t experience server down time once, or any crashes at all. Seems all the issues themselves are just with the HP which has nothing to due with launch itself. But other then that I’ve never seen such a great launch of a game.
Good job on that anet
That’s a fair number, people with 100% map completion deserve it, those who don’t grinding through about 200 is fair.
200-400 can unlock the weapons, armor, and a title.
I’ve been farming in wvw like crazy and have 59 heroic badge things (also spent 150 wvw tickets towards that 59)
Let the number be 200!
OR
let us pick which skills/utilities we unlock within the training system. I have to spend way to many HP for traits and skills I will never touch.
OR
Let us trade spirit shards for HP.
I think the grind is insane personally. A nerf however isn’t the option. Options is the solution.
Spitit shards to HP.
higher amount from WvW
That way those people who don’t want to farm masteries right away can use spirit shards for elite specizalation, play how they want to unlocking the masteries, then on ults do the HP if they desire.
No nerfing, just solutions and options
The thing is , is it really grind when you don’t even jave to repeat content? I leveled to lv7 just by exploring and did not go back and releat a single event.
The issue is I WANT to repeat the content. I really want to level masteries with my herald, explore the map with my herald, do the HP with my herald. But am forced to do it with my revenant just to unlock herald when it’s all done already
yeah, sucks man, I wasn’t expecting getting to play my rev to be the end reward for completing the jungle with her kitten.
Feel like the only way this isn’t going to ruin the experience is to grind the HP in WvW.
What I’ve been doing. I personally don’t like revenant that much, but did love herald made the class feel complete.
I wanted to enjoy the game with herald but can’t if I have to do everything with my revenant. So stuck in wvw which I’m not a fan of.
I think the grind is insane personally. A nerf however isn’t the option. Options is the solution.
Spitit shards to HP.
higher amount from WvW
That way those people who don’t want to farm masteries right away can use spirit shards for elite specizalation, play how they want to unlocking the masteries, then on ults do the HP if they desire.
No nerfing, just solutions and options
I’d make a comment disagreeing with you, but it seems everytime I disagree with anyone my comments get removed, I guess having a differing opinion is bad and it’s easier to just censor anything we don’t like.
Your opinions are more then welcome. This is how I personally feel and many others I’ve spoken to today about it though. No its not possible to make everyone happy, but options should be given such as a spirit shard to HP conversion. Those who like the current system then are also happy as they can still do it that way.
No one is complaining that the elite specizalation is hard to get, we are complaining we can’t do any of the content on them because all masteries and HP will be done before and that takes away a lot of fun doing it on a class you may not want to
I keep seeing over and over sarcastic posts saying things like “omg you actually have to play for your elite specialization” “the hero points aren’t hard to get” “Just play the game”
THAT ISN’T THE ISSUE!!!
Majority of us WANT to play the game. We really want to enjoy it a lot! We want to play it with our elite specizalation though. That isn’t asking for a lot.
We have to farm crazy xp for masteries (which I don’t mind at all) but I want to enjoy doing that on my herald.
After spending days to weeks to months based on play time we have to farm all the HP. (Which I don’t mind at all) but I want to enjoy doing them on my herald.
Then we unlock our elite specizalations. Oh wait I already explored all the maps, did all my masteries and guess what, all that’s really left is raids and fractals.
To unlock an elite specizalation there should be a profession trainer in LA that sends the players on a quest, where you learn about the profession, where it came from, add some lore and a couple tough fights. Not grind this, so you can grind this, to unlock this just to have all your content done already.
Now I’m stuck in wvw for a couple weeks just getting HP so I can actually enjoy the new content on the class I want to play with.
Anet……please do something about this.
I may get yelled at as well……
But gw isn’t gw anymore. We have to many people now who are these awesome epic elite people who quit other mmos because of problems, then came here demanding things in this game which were the reasons they quit the other games to begin with.
Open world pve in my opinion is supposed to be a fairly easy casual experience. It’s not anymore, it’s become difficult for a regular solo player to hop on and enjoy. People wanted hard content, they have raids, and fractals, but needed more. They kinda took the casual relaxed players out.
The regular Joe working 40 hours a week, and who does things outside of gw2 took a massive slap in the face with this expansion
I could of sworn anet confirmed it would launch with 3 a whole ago, and the others would be added in with new living story with a way they make sense to fit with the story
It could be due to halloween event, being so many filled maps maybe your in an empty one, the maps are so large people are spread out way to much, we don’t fully know the meta event chains yet so aren’t all on one path
The bladed medium armor looks great
Leyline armor I think is the legendary it’s just ok.
What’s the third?
How???? I already saw a DH in game using elite skill.
How can you get over 200 HP that fast? (Assuming they had map completion already)
Getting so many of the HP I found needed mastries which I wasn’t no where near getting
Didn’t you know? You have to unlock all masterys to access all HP, then grind the HP, basically doing all the content in the game with your necromancer. That way you won’t get to experience a single new thing in the game with your reaper.
Anet designed this extremely poorly. Should simply be a series of quests per profession to do that is about the specizalation.
I HATE HATE HATE WvW but I’m forced to do that to unlock a Herald so I can actually enjoy the new content with a character I want to play
It’s very annoying to not be able to do any of the content with elite specizalations. Like you said we need to get all the masterys, then the HP, then unlock elite specizalation when everything else is done already. Unless you want to spend a very very long time in wvw. I’m very against how they set this up for sure
Very normal if you clicked play now as soon as the game became playable. Better to wait til it’s fully downloaded
To those who have not purchased hot yet yes, also for tyria mastries
As far as I know there has never been one successful mmo launch in the past. Even gw2 crashed a couple hours after launch and the TP broke for over a month.
Expansions create issues as well. Don’t get your hopes up for being able to actively play all day from launch to night time. But it’s possible, fingers crossed
Those of us who bought this for herald are bummed out…..I’m 0% of the way towards herald even with 80 tomes.
You have raids, and fractals. Leave us casuals alone ; (
The whole hero point thing itself isn’t the issue at all to me. I have no issues farming these hero points for 2 days to get an elite specizalation.
The issue is I want to do the new content WITH my elite specizalation. You can’t repeat exploring a brand new area with elite specizalation, or redo fun hero points you really want to do on the spec you want to do it on.
That’s my personal reason for wanting spirit shards to HP conversion. Not because I don’t want to do the content, I’m excited for the content. But I want to do it with herald not revenant.
did you even read anything about the new elite spec stuff?
400 points required, and hero point challenges in HoT maps give 10 hero points, where everywhere else in Tyria they give 1.
also your suggestion makes no sense, you’re basically saying “I don’t care about the new content, so let me play the new content.”
People want to play the new content WITH the elite specizalations. I have no problems converting spirit shards to HP. no reason we shouldn’t be allowed if we want to
Firstly yes I’m strongly against the very high amount of HP needed for elite specizalations. But I hope this thread makes it to anet and maybe a simple fix can be done.
Please add constructive suggestions below to maybe make people happy.
1. Add HP in gem store. I will gladly spend $10 personally to unlock an elite specizalation so I can use the class I spent $50 to play (not joking)
2. Maybe allow hero points to be purchased with spirit shards from a LA vendor.
The reason I am upset personally is because I want to do all content on my herald, but I am not actually allowed to because I will need to do so many hero points on core class and can’t later redo them.
I have more then one character. Farming 400 HP will be a pretty massive grind that isn’t fun. That’s 40 challenges in new maps, and keeping in mind you will most likely need mastreys to get to a lot of them. I have 3 characters I want elite specizalations for, that’s 120 hero challenges in new maps just repeated over and over.
Please please share any ideas you may have that is realistic for anet to do easily by Friday
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I would buy hero points for money. Being required to throw away your points on things you don’t want is really a bad call. I bought HoT personally for herald, not to have to farm a pretty huge chunk of points just to play a class. Overall no one is happy with this.
Also people who have ults are unhappy as it’s simply just a very poor system of hero points.
You can’t unlock Glint, unless you have unlocked ALL of the core specs/traits/skills.
EDIT
Unlocking your elite spec is a training line in your training panel that costs hero points. You do need to have trained all the existing training lines before you’re allowed to put hero points into your elite spec.
That is so extremely lame. I personally do not like revenant very much but loved herald. So I’m basically stuck doing an insane grind with a class I don’t like, being forced to do content on a character I don’t like, then unlock I character I do like but can’t redo hero points with a class I want to do it on
None of that made sense.
Make a Revenant. Tome it to 80. Spend points on all traits (possibly all skills too) Better if you don’t have to do the skills. But we’ll find out.Anyway you will still have left over points, put those points into Herald. Now you’re a Herald, at least a little. Just play a Herald and earn points in HoT toward finishing Herald.
If you don’t have to spend points on skills, then you’re in an even better position.
Unlocking every skill and trait will be required before you can spend anything towards glint. So being level 80 sadly would mean no left over HP
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But I LOVE herald.
I really like heard a lot but couldn’t get into revenant.
So….I am forced to do things with a class I do not enjoy, to unlock what I want to play. But then can’t do hero points again with the class I actually want to play and do things with.
To many hero points. It’s insane.
You can’t unlock Glint, unless you have unlocked ALL of the core specs/traits/skills.
EDIT
Unlocking your elite spec is a training line in your training panel that costs hero points. You do need to have trained all the existing training lines before you’re allowed to put hero points into your elite spec.
That is so extremely lame. I personally do not like revenant very much but loved herald. So I’m basically stuck doing an insane grind with a class I don’t like, being forced to do content on a character I don’t like, then unlock I character I do like but can’t redo hero points with a class I want to do it on
If I use scrolls going straight to 80, and only unlock 2 trait lines, and only Jalis skills, will I have enough left over to unlock the glint skills, and glint trait line? I understand 400 is needed to unlock everything but I personally am in 0 rush for the shield or shoulders or anything but the glint skills.
Any ideas if it’s possible without farming hero points for just what I was looking for?
We need a lot of grinding. We need things to work towards.
Legendary weapons in core game were perfect, as are ascended weapons and gear. You could take the time to build something masterful, or spend the time in SW to buy either or (for ascended everything but bloodstone, dragonite, and emperal shards)
Let me ask you players who say you don’t want any grind. Do you want to log in on day one, unlock all the legendary stuff, and then what? What would you do with nothing left to do?
We need more journeys in this game like the legendary weapons. Not silly time gated things like raids where it’s just once a week doing a fight, that’s boring old WoW style. I really hope they add as much as possible things that are a challenge, yet fun. SW did a perfect job in my opinion with the luminescent set, I was so happy when I unlocked every piece. A couple achievements though like wicked rodeo were kinda a pain though. But everything else was perfect. Your old methods are better then the new ones.
Random post I wanted to make
No leap, oh gosh no.
Swords auto attack is fine in my opinion. Only issue I have is facing awarkadly even when enemy is right in front of me and they are targeted. Never had my 3rd skill miss other then odd positioning.
I hope they drain all the lakes and make everything ground combat. Underwater combat just isn’t that great. No point to continue wasting resources on it at this point really
I’ve pretty much mained guardian sense release and used sword 90% of the time.
Personally the only issue I have is sometimes I’m not really facing an enemy that is directly in front of me and I am targeted to but miss. Really the auto attack chain is fine, the blink and blind is great, and the 3rd skill is typically fine.
Revenant was changed due to the projectile being similar to guardian throwing a torch and having it miss often and having terrain always being an issue missing everything in front of you, on an auto attack that just could not work. Torch throw needs fixed though.
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It really shouldn’t be hard or pricey in hero points to unlock. $40 alone should be enough just for elite specizalations
2 and 3 look fine. It’s just starting with a stab is kinda bizarre
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“Our journey is nearly over—very soon, you will be gliding through the jungle canopy, battling to level 100 in fractals, building a guild hall with your friends, overcoming challenges in the jungle to unlock your elite specialization”
I really really wish we’d get some real information on this.
Day 1 can I unlock elite specizalation?
Will it cost hero points still?
How many hero points?
If it’s story driven how far into story do I need to go? The games a week away from release now and elite specizalations are a major selling point yet we still have 0 idea how to actually unlock them. Anet please give us some info!
Yea I really hope to have enough points to just level my Jalis fully, glint, and my traits for 3 lines and I’m a happy camper.
Particle effects just ruin performance and visability sadly.
They need more useful options in the graphics setting to help with performance issues
From guardian sword 2 teleport
Condition cleanses
Going glint/Jalis for condition cleanse on heal with rev.
How can you do a full set of ascended items for a class you don’t even know how it is (i mean final balance).
Don’t you want to test it? I mean, and if you’ll need more of a stat than another? You’ll trash ascended items?I already made my full set of ascended valkyrie armor, zerker shield and sword, and have everything else set. I think valkyrie should stay very good no matter what if I can always manage my fury upkeep
If one runs a power build for pve its always good to go full zerker as thatll give u the highest dmg possible. Any extra staat like toughness or vit can be achieved by swapping amu trink rings back, also since its less costly. Zerk will never be gone as most optimal gear for power builds, i dont see how itll change that much for raids either now that we have different roles to fill and support each other.
Just the armor is valkyrie, everything else is zerker. Zerker armor is a waste on revenant as I have 80% ctit chance
How can you do a full set of ascended items for a class you don’t even know how it is (i mean final balance).
Don’t you want to test it? I mean, and if you’ll need more of a stat than another? You’ll trash ascended items?
I already made my full set of ascended valkyrie armor, zerker shield and sword, and have everything else set. I think valkyrie should stay very good no matter what if I can always manage my fury upkeep
Something between warrior and guardian but closer to guardian i guess.
I compared to my guardian and crushed it kinda badly.