People who play sports threw there computer dont understand. When you play a sport you have to fight at each level for minutes and plays called for you. After fighting your team mates in practice and proving who is better. You play against people and then you see all those people from the 6th grade and up. If your fortunate enough to make it to college it gets even more intense.
People here wouldnt understand if these guys said they were the best players at there classes. Many people come on this forum and talk about how unfair certain things are but then these players at these big tourneys do it with there classes and there builds.
People who buy this game want to be competitive with any build they put out there without putting the time in or understanding of how there ability/build/rotation works with in the team concept. These guys are being nice cause this is the Guild Wars community. A bit soft and dont like hearing anything towards another person or team.
If you ever play against elite people there silent vs people who arent at that level. When you play someone at the same level as you and your the cream of the crop, trash talking is what is suppose to happen. You call people nick names such as tin man or forrest. For the guild wars community its trolling but to me its the best players competing against one another and calling each other out which would only enhance there level of play.
Lastly anet can we increase this tourney to the top 8 teams. Would like to see the top 10 players from each region at least. Would of loved to see the tcg at boston and 3 of the other best teams world wide. Also no double elimination, this is the wts best out of 3 and there out.
I don’t see the problem with the majority saying Warriors are bottom tier :/ maybe it’s because I get lucky with my queues but I went 9 wins 1 loss today and I was top in my team for 7 of them. Rampage… I didn’t even notice the nerf. I was still able to wreck entire teams mid-fight after dragging them low health. Hell I love my warrior even more now the fanboys have stopped playing it due to thenerf lol I saw 2 other warriors in 10 games, was lovely.
Only downside is I can’t make a viable rifle or axe build, now that’d be fun!
If you were able to use rampage in team fights that alone might say who you are fighting. Anytime i use that in a team fight i get moa by the engy or mesmer. The necro uses plague especially in the cele signet build its running at. Eles and thieves should be able to get away with ease. Also its not the casual who stopped playing warrior like myself but the elite teams in the ESL,AG,WTS who arent using warrior as much.
ummm disagree, how bad are people at this game?
First dps is too high now bunkers and condi damage is broken. I dont understand when you can literally make what ever character you want and be some what competitive if done right.
What are you looking for? You want to run a pure zerk build and ko everyone you fight without thinking? For the first time in this game there are high risk high reward builds. You can tell from the upcoming wts. Though the eles will be the same across the board, every team will be running 3 other classes that are different.
For me the easiest class to be effective with is bunker guardian. Every team needs a player who wants to bunk/remove condi and give boons to team mates. The hardest class to play and stand out is thief. Good thieves are a dime a dozen, when you have a great thief matches start to snowball since the great thief killed your good thief and then helped capped the other 2 points and everyone is sitting at there computer wondering what happened.
burning isnt op, people would just rather not run builds that have condi removal. Everyone in this forum wants to run a pure zerker build then cry’s dmg is too high.
I do wish they would slightly lower burn dmg and slightly raise bleed. By tiny amounts
^^^^^ This literally makes no sense. You sound like you have a bigger problem with anet MM system as to actually looking for a better reward system for higher quality of play.
Your literally punishing every person who 1 either cant get to that level of play, new players coming into pvp, and any person who doesnt want to team up with other players. Some people like to casually play pvp because they enjoy the game. I personally have done far more solo ques then team ques. I dont think anyone should be penalized since they dont run premade teams that synchronize skills for bursts or team condi cleansing.
I personally feel there needs to be more in game things that ag/esl is doing but they are outside sources that a majority of PvP players in the hotm dont even know about. What your arguing looks like now just you complaining about the MMS and rewards instead of seeing all sides from the original post.
they just need to nerf the stacking of the skills from 3 to 1
that all
Even that is bad, bunker builds last a really long time. For instance for fun i run a staff ele with melandru rune. I went earth/water/arcane with the cele ammy. When i have 2 condi players attacking me like a guardian and d/d ele they really struggle to take me down.
Players all ready have so many options on to avoid condi/reduce condi duration/ condi removal. Reducing it would make bunkers op and condi players unusable in pvp.
You haven’t met a good thief or mesmer then.
thats neither here nor there for the topic. I run cantrips and with that everytime i use a utility skills and my heal skill i lose a condi on top me switching to water. Not to mention i cant be crit while attuned to earth .
I still feel my point was valid, also if a thief and/or mesmer tried to take a cap point from me 1 vs 1. I would be able to cap it and they would have to spend literal minutes trying to take it from me and imo thats a win for my team.
with unranked/ranked spreading the players apart and not knowing what your own personal MMR is theres not way to know who should be getting better rewards. For instance what about the premade who has been sitting for 6 min to que and then 3 really good players are thrown against them and then the first 2 others who are average players. Is it fair for the average players to get less of a reward even though having to face better players?
So this happened to me about 2 weeks ago, i was queing in unranked and 2 games in a row i got to face 3/5 of the abjured with 2 solos and both times the team i was on was 2-1-1-1-1. They won 500-100 if we scored that much, i decided to que for ranked the next match and i faced APex Prime. Im not at there level, should i get less rewards for it?
This is why the rewards should stay the same, you dont know your MMR. You dont know your opponents MMR and you dont have any idea what the teams average MMR is. You cant kick and scream into the wind and expect to get something when the base things you need to decide this topic arent in place.
they just need to nerf the stacking of the skills from 3 to 1
that all
Even that is bad, bunker builds last a really long time. For instance for fun i run a staff ele with melandru rune. I went earth/water/arcane with the cele ammy. When i have 2 condi players attacking me like a guardian and d/d ele they really struggle to take me down.
Players all ready have so many options on to avoid condi/reduce condi duration/ condi removal. Reducing it would make bunkers op and condi players unusable in pvp.
that would to everyone else. If you want tournaments or something else reward based for better game play then you can argue that. Saying that people should get better rewards for being better for no reason is silly. Both groups bad or good que for the same matches and should receive the same rewards.
actually all my point was that there are many with that attitude. How dare anet say im this score, so on and so on. You wrote
I have tangoed with some of the best in 1v2’s and survived, I have tanked and kited 4 players + for periods of time lasting up to 2 minutes, in those moments I was… GODLIKE and I dare anet or anyone else to tell me that my MMR is 1!
This paragraph said alot. Also of coruse the MM system isnt perfect but still wouldnt help alot of things knowing where you supposedly ranked? There are a ton of people complaining about the leaderboards and personal awards. 1/2 the people who come on the forum think there better then they really are.
Lastly i never said you were a bad player but insinuated that no mater what score you got. If it was below what you think you should be you would rage. You dont have to defend yourself against me about your personal abilities but rather debate whether or not you think we should be allowed to see our own personal MMR. It may be broken but it is the score which you are assessed.
To answer all your points conclusively, MMR calculations are, just like the leaderboard, flawed.
Points 1 and 3 are contradictory. You say to keep it silent and then you say that you want it displayed.
Your team calculations at the end make utterly no sense at all. You say you’ve been on a 2-1-1-1 (4 players) and a 1-1-1-1-1-1 (6 players). Secondly, how do you know you’ve been on such teams if MMR is not displayed? Premades can also be made out of 5 complete newcomers to sPvP, which means it’s hardly an achievement worth noting if you defeat them with your PUG.
I have tangoed with some of the best in 1v2’s and survived, I have tanked and kited 4 players + for periods of time lasting up to 2 minutes, in those moments I was… GODLIKE and I dare anet or anyone else to tell me that my MMR is 1!
I fixed my numbers there for ya since you took it very literal. Also how does it not make sense. Everyone has a base MMR and it goes up when teamed with another player.
Also you surviving vs 2 there are so many questions like did you own the point, was it in neutral or did you run into a cap point where 2 people were and just killed yourself. Also what ever frustration you might have towards it are you not interested?
The better question is when seeing your MMR will it make you rage? If it does i guess i see why anet wont let people see there mmr since they cant handle the truth. I want the truth but if you cant handle it i guess its better to be stuck in limbo.
I feel it greatly help alot of people where there at if they knew where there mmr is. I personally would just like to know out of curiosity. Alot of people complain of Match making and all the stuff they dont know about. To me this would help alot.
1- Dont allow other players to see one another ratings
There is too much judgement and it would be nice to keep it silent. Like on the PvP page with all your matches. Like a number 1-10 to see where they rank.
2- kills curiosity
I think it would help for players who think there superstars to see that they might be average in the 4-7 range as oppose to them being god like. Also helps from a teaming stand point. If me and a friend are teamed together and im a 3 and hes a 8. Ill understand theres a chance ill get destroyed since im teaming with a high ranked player.
3-Communication can be a good thing
Alot of people think that if a new player is going far there noobs or suck. Players knowing there mm level might rethink alot of things. For instance if there teamed with someone whos a 9. He isnt untouchable to make a bad play but might understand why hes trying to carry or help. As well if players ranked 1-3, if i know there low level ill be way more understanding of the fact there learning.
4- At the end of the match the average mmr
I would love that simply cause ive been on 2-1-1-1-1 and 1-1-1-1-1 and 3-1-1 teams and beaten full premades. Also ive lost the same. It would be just for fun to see the mmr average of the teams at the end of the match. Like blue team MM score 6 and read team 5. People i think would be more understanding tot he match making.
Atm people just blame anet for any bad game. I personally would just like to know my own score. Wont get mad either way since i enjoy pvp. I think alot of solo que people would quit crying if they saw ohhh it was a pretty even game according to the mm. I dont know others opinions on it but i personally hope this comes with the expansion.
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I disagree with wolfey on the list of things mesmer have for weaknesses.
1- if you interrupt they are screwed is very vague since they have stun breakers as well as distortion. With the ability to cast blinds at will and hide behind clones. Interrupting them opens a small window to do some dmg.
2-sic em is a ranger only skill and also it doesnt make them easier to kill from the other ways they can hide around walls, teleport to a different area or simply portal.
3-isnt that just a basis to winning fights for a condi class build? Im playing condi so im gonna to apply as much condi as i can to win the fight?
I guess we can disagree.
I do agree that PvP going mainstream wont happen but thats due to the in-game situations. I also really enjoy the game modes so i disagree there but i can agree from a esports perspective.
Who cares? Im sorry this is the best meta for PvP. Bunkers are bunkers, cele can do everything and burst players and it works for all classes.
Im sorry that alot of people who were garbage at PvP cant go to meta battle and grab a meta build and dominate anymore. Seriously the last meta was celestial everything and most teams were 2 eles- 1 engy-1 thief and 1 random. That was every single team.
Now if were talking solo que and you and your friends like running burst builds with no condi cleanse or cant realize when they should or shouldnt jump into fights. I say good bye because this community doesnt need the toxic cryers with afk babies.
I saw someone say i quit when 2 people cap home, there not gonna stay there forever. Keep playing but no. I have not seen people cry so much as in this game. Before this patch people were crying cele is bad for the game and it was and to me thats when the majority of people were leaving. Alot of the better players including OE left the game in this stretch. This new PvP allows for teams to run different ideas since the classes are unique with there different skills.
So my answer is NO
IMO
1- warriors are ok, not bad or good
2- thieves can do great things for teams if they know how to play. This is the hardest class for people to ajust to.
3- you have to be new, necro is elite player in todays pvp. All necro builds are solid atm and most counter the mesmer and ele.
4-ele is perfect where its at. There the 2nd best class in the game atm
5-mesmers have no weaknesses atm, they are on god mode right now. Ele can be beat by other classes. If your a really good mesmer the only class you will lose to potentially is necro.
6-this is a silly question, i would say go in and play guardian before just saying a class is ueseless.
7- Mesmers are enjoying there time as the best class, why not enjoy while you can? Also no one has the expansion atm so no on truly knows how it works. We can only assume how they will exactly work.
If ANet wants to tap into the 71.5 million people who watch eSports, then they need to look at really revamping PvP.
First and foremost, look into why we keep seeing the same 5 teams playing in these tournaments.
Nothing to see here other than TCG vs oRG/TA. /yawn
Other then the fact i think GW2 should have there own in game tournaments more often. Did you happen to stop and think that these are the best players in the game on the best teams?
Man i hate the nba witht he spurs vs lebron james in the nba finals all the time. Or the NFL with the seahawks and patriots always making to the end. How about tennis, seriously how old is serena williams and roger federer? You should rethink your position.
Ill probably watch the first couple games but the one in boston dragged on a bit. I think 2 1/2 hrs will be all i got so hopefully you guys post the finals some where too.
these tiers you guys are making are silly. engies are bottom of the barrel, rangers are always more useful than any guard spec ive seen, and signet necros should be third or fourth.
warriors are middle of the pack along with ranger and thief. rampage has too much counterplay and beyond that, zerker wars don’t have much more to offer than a well played power Mesmer, thief or ranger.
the only outliers currently are Mesmer and cele ele, but they still haven’t been addressed and likely wont be. rest is fairly well balanced.
engies are the bottom of the barrel? Have you not seen the best engineers in the game in the tournaments? There was a forum post cause this person watched a certain engy from a certain team thats always in competing for the wts from NA. And said they needed nerfed cause this 1 person was rolling everyone. Im sorry but i disagree with you greatly on that aswell as the ele problem.
we had no chance
Why are you running rampage without the condi stance? Its a melee elite. It is useless in the current meta without the condi stance.
Also the way i look at the tier system is like this
tier 1- has the best chance of winning the fights
tier 2- can beat tier 1 and tier 3
tier 3- can beat tier 2 classes
Obviously the best players in the game can run what ever class they want and be successful but when you get players around the same caliber it will fall as such. If you look at the warrior class only shout bow was usable for the cele meta and then warriors were op for a short while but before that warriors had to be bunker classes as were the rest of the builds.
also that build doesnt use lich
- rangers are better dps support, necros are better bunkers, *
No,no,no,no – warrior way better than ranger in dps support and team support and rampage alone is > ranger on node fights and warrior better mobility. necros, better bunkers? cele is not bunker its just condi spam with 3k lich autos
Tierlist now:
1. Ele
2. Mesmer
3. Guardian
4. Thief
5. Engineer
6. Warrior
7. Necro
8. Ranger
I feel were knit picking here but did you happen to watch the AG weekly #29?
There was a ranger who held his own 1 vs 1 with a ele and did great against the mesmers and Noscoc was in disbelief that a cele sig(the nos build) lost a 1 vs 1 to a d/d ele. Also to me there are tiers so mine would look like this-
tier 1-
Eles
Mesmers
tier2-
thiefs
guardians
necros
engys
tier 3-
warriors
rangers
to me this is what the tiers would look like if each player was at the same skill level in 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2 situations
Actually that last line sums it up perfect,
warriors are in a good spot, others classes are just in a better spot.
guardians are better support, rangers are better dps support, necros are better bunkers, obviously mesmers and eles are the elite tier. I was fighting for rampage simply because this is the only game changing skill we had.
answer is, for the most part yes.
Rampage was only good in team fights with the condi stance. In 1 vs 1 it isnt very good vs better players so players saying rampage needed a nerf probably werent very good. Also the fact that there were already so many counters to rampage but everyone comes here to complain when they dont want to change anything about there build.
The only thing you can do now is run shouts with the elite signet and play support or switch to any other class but ranger.
I don’t think this is entirely true.
In 1v1 no matter how skilled one person is over a warrior… It is a nuisance Rampage and Endure Pain can create to someone who needs to kill the warrior within a certain time frame. Remember this is pvp where other enemy players are often right around the corner. Its bad enough that its a set it and forget it type skill.. (to many of those in the game Imo) but it is also very effective at using it and running to your team mates for help. Or it simply gives you more time for your team mates to come help even if you stand still.
As a thief I feel like If i can dodge and avoid a warriors stuns/dmg and land big damage on him, I should handily win the fight.
But also if a warrior lands stuns/dmg on me enough times and he dodges my stuns/dmg he should win the fight..
IS THIS TOO MUCH TO ASK? WHY ALL THE GOD MODE abilities in this game…. its just terrible.
Some will say if your better then the warrior you will win.. that’s not always true.
1. If rampage prolongs the fight then he has a better chance of team mates helping out.
2. If your only a certain amount more skilled then a warrior then rampage is often the deciding factor. If your twice as good, then its probably just a nuisance, if your only 10 percent better, then why should rampage be the determining factor?You see the game has put in these trash abilities…. should casll them troll abilities.
I prefer a balance of stun, dodge ,and damage
thieves get invisibility/shadowstep/ and blinds all of which warriors dont get. Not to mention if you have shortbow your far more mobile which is better for team fights and moving around the map. Also thieves play support for the most part. Thieves are far more capable at a all around game as well as frustrating a team with there ability to back cap when they were literally just there.
Warriors have to trait completely towards rampage, using a physacal trait to reduce cool down and dmg. Also rampage is forced into stances to combine skills with rampage otherwise its easily condi downed. So to run a rampage build you have 2 trait lines forced into it. Running stances and zerk also means your a sitting duck against the pack of wolves in any situation without your stances. This was literally a high risk high reward build that meant win with everything there and lose to anyone when your skills are on cool down.
You are also talking about 1 vs 1 situation and your talking a 5 sec max of no dmg. Good matches last over 10 min and your telling me its a huge pain 5 sec of no dmg which rangers get as well as guardians(from shelter) and that warriors are forced into this trait line as ive said earlier for running rampage. Your literally looking at from a “i couldnt play it any better” and the warrior is making the fight last longer. Its a silly way to look at it.
Also with the way blinds are handed out above average players had no problems against rampage. Remember 4 melee attacks and 1 range. That means 1 shortbow 5 away and then a dodge and on a thief, rampage will never hit you unless you sit in the circle because you dont think you should have to react to another persons skill.
Im sorry i saw nothing wrong, i know alot of people here are key board warriors but to alot of these guys its probably there sport. I can recall alot of trash talking and maybe not the best sportsmanship growing up in bball tourneys.
Lastly why cant the dude have his opinion? Hes not fond of rangers and the ranger was a really good player. People didnt like Dirk Nowitzki and guess what if a 1 ranger can come out of GW2 the equivalent of that guy, the ranger bashing will stop.
Necro’s not being average to bottom tier would be nice too. But I mean, “as long as my class is good then all is good in the world” right?
to me ranger/warrior/necro are in this weird place where a team might be able to use them where as before people wouldnt. If they bring mesmer down a little bit we only have 2 classes that are a must in ele and mesmer and then teams will have open availability to choose the other 3 which will more likely be a thief, guardian or engy but those 3 bottom classes have some sourd of chance which wasnt the case in the previous meta.
I dont need anet to make tons of changes and fixes. I dont need them to change PvP over and over. All i want is
1-Just bring mesmer down a little bit
2-leader board/ in game tournaments/something
3- all bug issues addressed and fix
4-a real reward system for pvp
Bam last patch i need, i dont know what other people want but thats all i need. Next 2-3 years of pvp for me in this game and im straight
Write down the bullkitten builds you hate to loose against which have no counterplay.
1- DD ele.
2- Insta invi burst down mesmer.
3- double endure pain rampage warrior.
4- invi burst down thief.
5- 5k crit litch necro.
Its just hard to take this seriously, i like where eles are now. I play staff ele and for the first time ever i stalemate a d/d ele. Who ever is better wins over the 3-4 min fight.
3-rampage is all melee now with only 1 range attack. You are telling me dont use any cripple/chill/immoblize/blind/blocks/ anything. Seriously swiftness now with a teleport amkes rampage unusable now since its only 15 sec.
4- thats there role and rangers have sic em. You want the counter bam there it is and when you play in a TEAM people who play other burst builds should be looking for the meser/thief. This is once again a 5 vs 5 TEAM GAME.
5- last if necro lich form is making you mad when thats all power necros have, seriously, seriously, seriously………… seriously, seriously
Now number 2 i agree with but i dont know the mesmer class well enough to talk about there issues. All i know is yesterday on my ele i was getting stunned then hit for 10k hits with them stealthing. On my warrior it was smash my stances and hope they dont dodge/blink/port/invulnerable/distortion. On my guardian or necro i hold out for as long as i can and pray for help with in 3 min.
I like where PvP is at but the class that makes me worry every match is mesmers. If the other team has 2 good mesmers and our mesmer is a average mesmer for the class i pray that were quicker in rotations and better tanks for winning the match.
i disagree and i run a bunker guardian and necro and ive never been hit for 19k and ive actually gotten decaps vs mesmers with my bunker characters. If your in a 1 vs 2 situation you probably should lose and if your in a 2 vs 2 situation and there targeting you and burst at the right time why shouldnt you go down?
Seriously if 2 player are playing burst characters and at the same time land a big hit on you why shouldnt you go down? If your not running protection,retaliation or blocks for burst hit and when you got hit do you have a out? A skill to stun break remove condi and then heal? If you dont then maybe your playing a higher risk build and arent ready for that in current pvp.
For the first time in PvP you are what you are. If you run zerk everything you will go down from a jab. If you run high defensive stat characters with average utility skills that dont make you stronger your going to struggle. Especially on a warrior with huge amounts of condi cleanse and defensive abilities. If you are on a warrior thats the one thing you can do atm.
answer is, for the most part yes.
Rampage was only good in team fights with the condi stance. In 1 vs 1 it isnt very good vs better players so players saying rampage needed a nerf probably werent very good. Also the fact that there were already so many counters to rampage but everyone comes here to complain when they dont want to change anything about there build.
The only thing you can do now is run shouts with the elite signet and play support or switch to any other class but ranger.
They do post sometimes and no they don’t get people to post for them (as far as I’m aware). The thing is that the vast majority of people who moan on the forums aren’t actually that good at the game and would rather moan about things than figure out how to deal with them properly.
This was real talk on the forum, im actually confused by it
you could just run a non zerker build. Even though you list your stats, you didnt mention if there defensive skills or offensive. Like full bunker builds are incredible hard to kill.
The only class im struggling against is mesmer and i dont mean every mesmer but the better mesmers in the game are crushing me.
Im currently running a zerk warrior, 2stances,rampage, and hammer with rifle. Im have fights with mesmers where i dont land 1 hit in 1 vs 1 situations.
i have a condi bunker necro use staff and i do replenish DS and even with this build i can beat a majority of the eles in the game. The same mesmers though kill me, i can get a decap and sometimes a slight recap but there is no escape and eventually bursted down.
There are 2 other builds i play regularly in a bunker guardian and staff ele and i do great with them as well but the better mesmers are crushing me with them. Alot of these guys were players i saw before the patch playing mesmers so im happy they can be the top dog atm but to me that is the only problem with the actual pvp atm.
Now please i dont want mesmers drowned with everyones very negative opinions. I dont know what to do personally since i dont play mesmer anymore. So im hoping a small spank in the butt so they can still be top dog with eles but not above them with no real counter.
I would get behind this if they were restricted to only pve and unlockable on any race so you dont have to feel forced into any one race for each class.
Witch would in turn make them pointless as racials tbh but that would have to be the downside to it.
I dont understand this. Norn is my favorite race so i play i more then the others. I have guild mates who play charr and engy and love there type of class/backround and another playsonly human since he hates teh charr from gw1.
People like having there characters be there characters. I find it wierd you have to have it for every race being you get 5 character slots for playing the game and can make any class/race you want and that the game is already based on the type of weapons/class/ and race you are so it make no sense especially for PvE.
i love the new pvp, more viable builds even if some of the older ones arent as good.
though i had multiple quit if skyhammer was chosen or death match. So i whispered them why not que for ranked. Then the amount of profanity that came my way hilarious.
A big reason i got gw2 was the ability to shapeshift and i would like for it to be usable in pve. I like the bear shape shift and it has a nice health bonus but only skill 2 and 5 do dmg. I hit 3 in a mob yesterday for a lvl 9 fractal and i was doing hits for 433 dmg. I do 900 with a hammer and i was like nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I haven’t tried some of the other animals simply because bear is the want i want to use and bear usually means health and power which you get more out of juggernaut form which is fine for PvP but for PvE i would rather use bear even if isnt as good as juggernaut. I would just like a little more dmg for its skills so i can use it in PvE settings with out people getting frustrated at me.
It would be cool if they offered both options.
i completely agree, i love the old fishing style and would love a more options for side game in the game.
It’s sounding like elementalist is the best bet. Guess I need to to learn how to play it better.
Though Thief is an interesting recommendation from Randulf. I always saw them as a squishy melee class (a real paradox).
eles are simply the best, if you run celestial accessory items with power/condi/XXX you can kill anything and never come close to dying.
staff ele can literally do everything, if you combo trait from f4 earth eruption to f3 water cleansing and heal boost or f2 fire to give might to team mates. Also you can play dps caster on mesmer greatsword or condi caster on necro with staff. There not your tradional casters but are casters.
You mentioned this is your post but in your own post you say there casters but you want more from other weapons which makes it really hard to debate if you already know the caster skills/weapons but want more caster stuff.
i only agree with this coming to mesmers. Guardians, eles and thieves have ways of reaching opponents ranging them. On my warrior i can handle them but mesmers i have no chance against good mesmers.
Seriously i run stances and when i play a good mesmer i dont land a hit. Blocks/distortion/blinds/evades/invulnerable/ and just when i think i have forced them to use all those and i can land a kill shot or rampage hit they go invisible and i sit there going oh well i put up a good fight.
both are fine L2P
lich can get condi downed quickly as well as rampage.
Counters- Moa both from engy and mesmer, any fire skill that causes blind, blocks,invulnerability,distortion, invisibility, plague elite skill, being a good mesmer and ele in general. Tell me on a melee character how to beat a mesmer or ele before talking about this.
what do you want changed?
Right now rampage in 1 vs1 fights is useless vs good mesmers/guardians/eles/necros and engys.
if there all running the same build wouldnt some skill come into place of who used what skill at what time?
Ive beaten more then a handful of people trying to run a similar build to my own. Then them going this game is broken once they didnt kill me in rampage form. The New pvp is awesome and not based on running the most cele passive builds. This is a L2P PvP now and for the most part alot of people are crying since they cant run a op meta build to save there bad game play.
Can you guys at least say hey on Aug 10th we will announce the day the expansion coming dec 23. Im sitting here wondering in game like wow should i do these side quests or do i have till 2016?
The question of the so called op builds is there a counter. Its why i think the current pvp situation is ok. Necro counters the mesmer and ele meta builds. I feel like more teams will be more 1-1-1-1-1-1 teams since there are counters. No more 2 engy 2 eles 1 class tourneys.
How does Necro counters Mesmer doing +1?
Right now the best 3 builds is the cele/bunk necro and ele and a burst mesmer. After that teams can go anywhere. The only class really struggling to me is ranger but there are counters to other classes. Another class thats good vs the mesmer is a bunker guardian who can decap and cap the point while the mesmer it trying to kill him forcing the other team to get another player to help and kill him.
How can Bunker Guardian decap and cap already guarded point?
Why would Mesmer try to kill Bunker Guard alone and waste time as +1 roaming profession, who even if can perform well in some 1v1, shouldn’t 1v1?
you said in a earlier statement that guild wars 2 doesnt balance around anything. My point is to the burst mesmers/eles/thieves that there are counters to them forcing +1 match ups which gives teammates a chance to get a quick kill if there burst or another bunker character to take another point for holding.
Also if your practicing enough with blocks knock backs and the opponent uses invisibility among other non point holding skills to win fights. You as a bunker can run to a point where a thief/mesmer are and get a decap and cap potentially.
The question of the so called op builds is there a counter. Its why i think the current pvp situation is ok. Necro counters the mesmer and ele meta builds. I feel like more teams will be more 1-1-1-1-1-1 teams since there are counters. No more 2 engy 2 eles 1 class tourneys.
Right now the best 3 builds is the cele/bunk necro and ele and a burst mesmer. After that teams can go anywhere. The only class really struggling to me is ranger but there are counters to other classes. Another class thats good vs the mesmer is a bunker guardian who can decap and cap the point while the mesmer it trying to kill him forcing the other team to get another player to help and kill him.