Guild Wars 2

Shovel Face.4512:

Medium armor is another trench coat when medium armor wardrobe is 96% trench coat. Where’s the diversity? People have stated they HATE trench coats, yet Anet keeps pumping them out.

People say they hate trench coats – Anet adds yet more trench coats
People say they hate required items locked behind failure of events – Anet adds more failure based rewards.
People want more dungeons and dungeon improvements – Anet abandons dungeons completely

Seeing the pattern yet?

This is Anet we’re talking about. “Common” means 1 in 100,000 or so

This is over the top and just plain stupid. Are you SO desperate for key sales, Anet? I guess so.

I’ve never set foot in GW1, but going off what I’ve read in the forums, as well as having watched my wife play GW1, I get the feeling that what is missing is the “my world” feeling.

That emotional attachment that let’s you step into your character and say “this is my home. This is where I grew up, and these are the people I call friends”.

GW2 is “just a game”.

187 crucial T6 mats out of 1500 bags. I’d say I’m shocked at how low it is, but I’m not. Not anymore.

Mada.5319:

It seems evident that you do not even do Teq or Wurm. Teq/Wurm and Karka get completed within 15 minutes by a coordinated group and you’ll be swimming in rares and loot chests if you made the effort to get organized.

Funny thing that. I did Karka queen and Teq just tonight. got a grand total of 4 yellows. Your “swimming” statement is laughably exagerated.

What’s the Iron Legions favorite wine?

Charr-donnay

SarahWitter.2317:

Reading this thread, we understand your questions and want to share a little information: This set is designed to be a special, exclusive set and therefore it’s a little different than most. -Sarah

This sounds like a hastily made up “reason” designed only to quell the growing base of angry customers.

Why is it so special? Do please elaborate.

The people calling for the lowering of rewards for effort in the already dismal loot system are generally just trolls or individuals who got their Legendary back when it was easy to do so, and are afraid they’ll lose their special status. So they intentionally push Anet to make it stupid-hard to get anywhere. Just ignore them.

A Norn and an Asura walk into a bar.

“OW! My Knee!” shouted the Norn.

I think the problem for many who don’t like GW2 is they paid money for an MMO, and recieved a gem-store driven theme park.

She’s trying to get her precursor

As long as the masses keep falling for these tricks, we’re stuck with the RNG antics. :/

RedShipRaider.9560:

Large spike damage like this, on a forecast move, gives the designers a way to actually threaten players while still giving players an easily accessible counter play.

Or in the case of GW2, it gives Anet the chance to dish out champion level damage without having to reward the players for conquering it.

This seems somewhat counter-productive in regards to getting rid of botting.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Thanks for sharing. Can you, or others, give some examples of items that formerly were offered that you’d like to see again? I’m happy to take your ideas to the dev team!

Thanks.

There was only a multi-thousand response thread that I believe even you took part in, Gaile. :P

Bunny Ears & Sunglasses.

People would also like to see some older skins come back, like Fused and Zodiac.

Welcome to the world of pay-to-win.

This game had so much potential, but they had to destroy it for a dollar :/

Amazing how the griefers flock to these threads to defend their actions.

LOL.

“Increased the drop rate of Black Lion Chests and Black Lion Chest Keys throughout the world.”

You do realize that +0.00000000000001% is technically an increase right?

chronometria.3708:

Anet made decent loot appear so rarely that players became akin to starving people, desperately gorging on champion boxes in the faint hope that something appeared in them. The champ train was a symptom of player “reward starvation” and a large amount of learned helplessness. Why do complex events like tequatl and 3 headed wurm when those give next to nothing in return. Far better to simply run round in a boring circle while watching tv and to collect a hundred champ boxes in the hope of something by raw force of numbers.

GW2 is built around giving nothing and taking all our time and the culmination of this is events like the new queens gauntlet, which are the perfection of this punishing philosophy.

We learned that the mystic forge hates us. We learned that RNG hates us, but now we don’t event get drops in our events for the rng to happen in.

The game hates us – that’s how I feel at the moment and I don’t understand how it can have come to this. I want to play, but its as if I am being told to go play something else – why is this?

Very well said, and dead on accurate.

I believe this is how Anet wants the entire game to be. Where the only method of obtaining things is through real cash purchase. Get used to this, more is probably coming soon.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Mikuchan.7261:

Completely agree with OP.
This isn’t ok.
The sprockets may not be worth much, but this mining tool gives a clear advantage over everyone else.
Advantage in acquiring value.
Not much, but it is an advantage in acquiring value.
Thus it is pay 2 win.

Where is the advantage of spending 1000 gems to very slowly gain a few sprockets?

You are greatly losing money out of this, and the only way to get any value is through very high dedication. Which is the opposite of P2W (get things by paying for them instead of working for them).

It’s not about the raw economy of the item, the problem is the precedent that it sets. Arenanet is plainly stating that they are willing to allow people to pay for an advantage. Whether or not that little trick is profitable doesn’t matter, because it makes it quite clear that in their mind it is OK to pay for advantage over others. It is a potential pebble that starts the landslide to things that do let you profit relatively quickly.

Tapioca.9062:

I care less about esports than I do about regular sports. I am sick of Anet trying to shove players where they don’t want to be though.

They are obsessed with this “esport” fantasy to the point that they seem willing to damage the rest of the game in order to force things to happen.

What they need to do is drop it and focus on running an MMORPG.

Michael Henninger.7451:

Upvote and ^5 for Khezekiah-Bellamy-5016

I think part of the point in all the reddit stuff you are missing is that the OP was treated very rudely by support. There exists a clear effort among support to stonewall players with the attitude of “we know everything, and you’re a hacker” that is shoved onto players who file support tickets.
Yes, there are a number of hackers who will write up a sob story to try and get their banned account/confiscated goods back, but this does not justify a blanket policy of treating everyone like a criminal.
Chris Cleary’s attitude of “you’ll take what we give you back, and like it.” was out of line, and goes right along with the type of treatment players get from support via e-mail.
“support” is not doing their job when Anet’s end game is to get away with whatever they can, and that is clearly what happened here. Initially, your company wanted to remove the gold, and just let the OP hang, striped of gold and items. It wasn’t until he went outside the labyrinth of support and posted on Reddit that Arenanet finally decided to do what was right.
That seems to be standard operating procedure though. Do what’s best for the company first, and only do what’s right if the customer complains, eh?

Arenanet is going to nerf/restrict this game into the ground. It’s like they don’t want people sending mail at all.

Celtic Lady.3729:

I would think it would be preferable to encourage the success of events.

Not the other way around.

Hey hey! Woah there Celtic Lady. We can’t have people going around and just spouting off logic and common sense here. This is the GW2 forum you know.

Have to go with Xcom on this. Anet employees are professionals when it comes to making statements that are either vague or can’t be taken as a direct answer.
It’s not just the wording of the statement, it’s the history of such statements. Personally I think the post was made to string people along and keep them logging in. If they came out and said “no”, people would quit GW2 simply because they refuse to play Anet’s stupid gambling game.
They are stringing people along to keep numbers up.
They are more than welcome to prove me wrong. I would like to be wrong on this one.

lordkrall.7241:

Calae.1738:

I don’t think you are wrong.

I have a feeling that what we are seeing is a combination of milking the current playerbase and targeting a different market on another continent that has literally hundreds of millions of people.

The China market is HUGE. Even if this is just a cashgrab strategy, they can make bank and not care if the game itself died a quick death.

Ah yes. I am sure they would be willing to put 300+ people (and friends) out of a job for some swift dollars….

You are a fool if you believe that investors wouldn’t do exactly this.

+1 for OP. The removal of the animations vs. the mini issue just pours salt on the wound. Besides, the animation removal stinks of more than just a so-called bug as it is. It’s time for Anet to either fix it or openly state that they removed it for other reasons (and have the guts to admit what those reasons were).

I’ve been watching this from the outside and it is very concerning. While I don’t run fractals at all, the way they handled this situation doesn’t bode well for the rest of the game.

For those who don’t care about fractals at all, this should still be a concern. I do not want Anet getting the idea in their head that it’s ok to just go and completely change things around with no regard for time and effort on the players part. If we let them get away with this, what will they do next? Reset map completion?

Troll’s End is the best example of what is wrong with jump puzzles in GW2. Not only is it best run as an Asura or with a potion, there are spots where you wind up standing on/jumping off of empty air in order to progress.
Someone at Anet seems to have the demented concept that these problems can be repackaged as “challenging” and that makes everything ok.

Exxcalibur.6203:

remove the Queens zerg, in order to force change and diversity.

Because forcing people to do things will result in them enjoying it. Yeah, that’ll go over swell.

Can’t expect much from some schools of thinking these days. They brainwash these marketing types into believing the latest hype then hand them a piece of paper as proof of their new found enlightenment. Then they get hired at a company based on that paper and upper management gets lost in the murky details of why their sales are tanking. “they have a paper! it’s obviously not their methods that are the problem!”

Social media is in turmoil at best, because people don’t like their personal information being farmed or sold, and they’ve been burned. See the thread on these forums about how GW2 didn’t get the 1mil “likes” they were begging for. Count the number of people who didn’t add a like simply because they don’t have or refused to use Facebook.

Even if social marketing is the “wave of the future” like so many seem convinced it is, a responsible company will have at least one location on their own site where they centralize news related to their products and services, keeping it up to date with the latest.

Can you imagine if these people had control over the game info itself? Instead of a rather comprehensive wiki, we’d have to keep a bookmark list of 20 or so sites as to where to find information about in game items or other game related material.

Hate to say it, but get used to it. Anet has found a new way to gouge people for money. Take an item people really weant, and then bundle it with a bunch of crap items, and triple the price.

Makes me ill that they tied the immortal set in with this. Reddit is right, it’ll cost hundreds of dollars (if you don’t have the gold to convert) in order to purchase the entire immortal weapon set if they continue this path. It screams “money grab”.

I suppose this will be the next thing. They’ll re-release skins like the fused skins, but they’ll be “special” account bound ones.

Starting to see where Mike intends to take the company.

Misty sighed heavily as she considered the words she had penned upon the parchment before her. It wasn’t that she was prone to complaining, but she simply couldn’t hold back her frustrations anymore. It seemed like just yesterday the world was at her feet. It was just her and the master adventuring across Tyria, seeking out every little corner and point of interest that the atlas had listed. Monsters and vagabonds alike suffered their end to her marks and wells, and the wonderous things they found together. She thought it would never end.

She never saw the change coming. It hit her out of the blue. One day she was this powerful necromancer that would face down any challenge, the next it was like the power just vanished. Misty sighed again.

“Not vanished.” she said sadly. She knew in her heart that it was more than just a loss of her ability to remove threats quickly. If she was honest with herself, it really started the day she recieved her glorious reward for exploring all the known lands. The master was very pleased with her, there was no doubt. He lavished her with gifts, and even bought a very expensive dye for her along with a day at the salon, but something had changed. His attentions shifted to her. To Amethyst.

It’s not that Amethyst was a bad person. They had enjoyed many wonderful conversations in the past, but the masters new infatuation with her left Misty feeling empty and used.

Misty walked across the room and looked at herself in the gilded floor lenght mirror. The fair skinned red-haired girl looking back at her was certainly young enough, and the master had used transmutation stones to adorn her with the best Orichalcum jewelry and exotic gossamer robes, so it certainly wasn’t her appearance.

No, it was them.

The clones.

Misty’s eyes flashed with a hint of anger as her mind filled with thoughs of the master adventuring across the world with Amethyst and her “twins”. Everyone in the group knew they weren’t real. They were just illusions, and part of the rather formidable skills that she added to the masters powers, but Misty could have sworn at times that he was just as fooled as any commoner.

She knew she was judging unfairly. She got along just fine with Amethyst now. Misty’s jealousy had come dangerously close to destroying what was a beautiful friendship, but then she witnessed Amethyst going through the same things that she herself had been through. The lavish gifts, and the seeming disinterest that arose after she was given her exploration rewards. Was that all they were to the master? Just a thing to pick up and explore tyria with and then be left to live out their days in the masters house doing next to nothing?

Misty snorted. At least Amethyst was called upon once in a while, but Misty didn’t envy her task. It appeared that the master only cared to call upon Amethyst when he needed her artificing skills to condense luck essense. For as much as she, a necromancer, dealt with gooey gutsy icky things, the luck essence was a substance that just made her shudder.

Judging the ink on the parchment to be dry, she carefully rolled it up and sealed it with wax. Her plea to the master to at least spend some time with each of them once in a while. It was a sensible request, she felt, and the others had agreed that it was time to bring it to the masters attention. With a wave of her hand, a white dove appeared out of the aether, snatched up the note, and flew out the window to deliver it to the master.

The bell tolled the late hour, and Misty set to preparing for sleep. She longed to have purpose again. Her life was comfortable enough, but she longed to be out and running across Tyria once more.

“Someday, my master, you will see” she whispered to the air.

“I am worthy.”

Silmar Alech.4305:

Absolutely the correct decision to postpone other legendary weapons. Create content that is open for all of the players, don’t create content that is viable for only a small subset of players. I feel the same could be done with the raids, by the way.

Yes yes, just throw away content that was promised and that PEOPLE PAID MONEY FOR.

Great business plan.

Fremtid.3528:

Re ashen’s question about prices: there was a panic sale when the farm was announced that drove the prices down to 19s 99c now the prices have gone back up to ~25s so no it hasn’t really brought the prices down.

Not on T6 anyway.

-For quite some time, there were threads on the forum and on reddit, where people complained about the cost of T6 leather.
-Anet, as quoted in a previous comment in this thread, stated that they were concerned about the cost of T6 leather, and were looking at introducing a leather farm.
-Anet announces a couple weeks back that there is a leather farm coming, and all the investors dump their leather, including T6 onto the market in a panic resulting in a huge drop in price overall.
-Patch hits, and….prices are recovering.

Anet simply added another source for leather, as opposed to adding a source or adjustment for a specific type of leather that was seen as a problem (per John Smith).
What players wanted and what Anet delivered are two different things.
If the players follow through anyway and farm the leather so they can make money selling T6 materials, the other 5 tiers are going to suffer greatly due to an influx of supply.
T5 leather squares had buy orders of around 95copper late last night and, according to gw2Spidy, have only just come back to being above silver in the past 12 hours.
IF players farm for T6, the side effect will be a slow crash of the other tier leathers.
So the players get what they want (cheaper T6). Meanwhile we head back to T5 being vendor trash (which, if you’ll remember, is why all these changes to refining amounts and patches were done in the first place). Bravo!

Alternatively, players decide that “farming” for an hour for 8 or 9 T6 sections isn’t really worth the time, and as soon as the next most profitable gold farm is found, they move to that. and then the next living story patch hits, and most players, rightfully, move on to the next zone. Resulting in leather prices going back up.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Stuff….

You’re really bored aren’t you. Run out of socially divisive topics did we?

RNG is fine where it is. At best it needs to be taken down several notches to give players more feeling of progression. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t take an average amount of time to get a given item, just means that there shouldn’t be a chance it would take an obscene amount of time to get an item.

How much rock could a Rock Dog rake if a Rock dog could rake rock?

A Rock Dog would rake all the rock he could rake if a Rock Dog could rake rock.

Ameepa.6793:

Crovax.7854:

SarahWitter.2317:

Reading this thread, we understand your questions and want to share a little information: This set is designed to be a special, exclusive set and therefore it’s a little different than most. There are a couple of other interesting factors that you’ll want to know: The set is available for one ticket. It will remain priced at one ticket into the future, so someone who wants it now doesn’t need to be concerned about it becoming unavailable or about it rising in price in the future. Other sets currently available are not account bound, such as the Cavalier Weapon Set which was recently released at a price of 1 Black Lion Claim Ticket and remains at that price now. In addition, we do intend to continue to offer tradeable sets in the future. If you’d like a preview of the new set, go to your bank wardrobe and filter for “Privateer.” We hope this answers your questions, and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

-Sarah

Why is the set special? Why would we think it’s anything but you testing the waters on how much you can screw over customer before there’s backlash?

Yeah somehow I have a feeling that next set will be special too.. :P

It’s the new excuse for money grabs “this item is ‘special’”

Forcing casuals into WvW will have a detrimental effect on a servers ability to hold objectives and maintain status.

Endless Soul.5178:

OP is the reason why we can’t have nice things.

No, the reason we can’t have nice things is Anet listens to these thoughtless rants.

A little background:
I am a crafter at heart. I enjoy taking raw materials and refining them. I enjoy working with my hands. I love the process of creating things. I always have. When video games presented the ability to make things that would help your character progress, I jumped on it. Vanguard introduced me to crafting that I would consider a little more complex, and from then on I was hooked on virtual crafting. When I look at a game like that, one of the first things I want to know is how to gather and can I gain an advantage through crafting.

It was a multi-part journey. Each of the 3 parts had it’s own psychological/emotion reward. The feeling of accomplishment. From the gathering of the materials, to refining and assembling them, to receiving the final product, a virtual labor of love. You put time into it, and the result shows the value of that time.

Guild Wars 2
When I started GW2, I was somewhat disheartened at the simplicity of the crafting, and the lack of random chance involved with the results, but the recipe system made sense, and raw materials presented themselves, at the time, at a good pace. Unfortunately, after discovering the ultimate recipe, that being that all 6 tiers of crafting were just repeats of the previous levels using higher value material, it got boring really quick, but as I learned there were other items that could be crafted via the mystic forge, and I also started very quickly to look into the legendary weapons.

The process of crafting a legendary was daunting. I’d never seen such rediculous amounts of material required for a single item, and there were things required that involved aspects of games that I’d never cared to participate in (namely PvP and Dungeons).

Overall though, I saw it as doable. I even, at the time, set aside the issue of how precursors were obtained. Foolishly, at the start, I believed there was a chance at getting one as a drop. That faded quite quickly.

Then I stared playing the game more seriously. From there I started to learn the dark down sides of crafting a legendary. Anet had made it obscenely difficult to get the required materials in what appeared to be purely a move to get people to buy gems>gold to purchase. Calculations and tests were done. By April of 2013, I knew full well how long it would take me to gather the required T6 materials via general PvE play when taking into account my 2 to 3 hours a day play time combined with the limitations of Diminishing Returns and only 3 zones where T6 mats drop. 4 years if I played daily. Just for the T6 materials. Not including the orbs I needed, which drop far less. Coupled with precursors that only drop at about the same rate people win the lottery in real life, I just about gave up on crafting an legendary at all.

By the time this all set in, however, I had gotten my map completion, as well as the gift of battle. Standing in the way was the Gift of fortune, the Precursor, and the Gift of the Unicorn (which I had nearly completed).

I chose to make an attempt to get my T6 materials gathered for the Gift of Fortune. This quickly became a monotonous grind. I had, at this point, a bit of a dark epiphany. Tainted heavily with regret and emptyness. The end game for crafting in GW2 is not about crafting. It’s not about anything legendary. It’s about grinding gold.
Because no matter how much time you care to put in the game, spending 4 years grinding out T6 mats in the same 3 zones, at half hour per day segments, in the long run, your time put into crafting nets you nothing special. Because the guy with mommy’s credit card in your guild bought his legendary off the trading post before you even knew what one was.

That’s the saddest part about legendary weapons. They aren’t worthy of being crafted at all because in the long run, they are not legendary at all. They are just a skin. There is no joy in crafting something that others just buy off the market.

In the end, after half a year of farming, I had enough gold to buy 80% of the T6 mats I needed, along with the orbs for the gift. It nearly made me sick to my stomach to face the fact that the actual crafting path for these things, as designed, was just grinding gold.

Today, I put in an order, and recieved, The Lover. The last piece of the legendary. I received The Dreamer from the mystic forge, and … felt nothing. No sense of accomplishment. No sense that I had crafted something worthwhile. It was just a skin.

Worse, in the back of my mind, I hear the employees of anet whispering “sucker”.