Guild Wars 2

Sunshine.5014:

Original post:

Maybe a full set puts out a dim glow? Battle stance shoots out a burst effect similar to The Ascension?
It’s a Legendary armor after all. It can’t just.. be there. People should feel and look proud while wearing it. Instead, we forget that we have it on sometimes.

The flip flop is real.

Saiyan.1704:

Grimheart.2853:

Devs made it clear they’re not doing another pack of legendary armor skins any time soon. And any time soon in this case means probably never.

That’s not exactly what we’re asking for.

See the below picture link. Each yellow circle around our division represent a PvP Legendary Piece that we have made (not necessarily something we need to wear for this to show). Five armor pieces and The Ascension. Very minimal, simplistic, and it gets straight to the point. This is something i’m fine with.

https://ibb.co/jyx2KF

In the OP, asked for legendary effects. When being confronted, flip flop to “No I wanted a different division icon.”

In anycase, I’d rather them spend more time on real features instead of wasting time on this. For example:

• Fix Aura visual so it’s easier to tell
• Red outlines on targeted enemy
• PTR for PvP patches
• Monthly balance patches

In all fairness my second post in this thread said I wanted “something”… I never went back asking for a visual skin suggestion after the discussion went further.

I guess the PvP community is against it so I guess we won’t bother Anet even though its the best moment of time for the devs to make such an addition. It’s not like they don’t have huge funding for the expansion or anything…

I don’t know why so many are against this.

This specific hammer build wont (shouldn’t) make the metabattle cut.

• GS > Hammer by a long mile. It offers more retal through Light Aura and higher burst damages. Hammer is just way too slow for the minimal windows of Retal we receive. Glacial Heart critting is the only thing worth while on Hammer.
• Scepter > Sword because we can cast Symbols then GS#2 Leap for Light Aura. That and we can’t afford to stay in group fights. Scepter’s auto is still quick and powerful and best at setting up Retal.
• Only thing good on Hammer is Glacial Heart. A niche aspect of the slow weapon that isn’t even a 100% hit.

tl;dr Swap Hammer with GS, put Sigil of Agility on GS, then this will be a strong Core build variant that Metabattle should approve.

my build can swap SYG for COP

Grimheart.2853:

That is just plain and simple wrong on numerous levels.

Before you show me what [you are] asking for, you could read the next half of my post.

And no, it’s not their opinion, it’s basically a fact. Again, refer to the second half of my post that you seemingly disregarded.

Grimheart.2853:

People from PvP and WvW were babbling that they need their stat-swap without having to go raiding. A-Net made a grumpy sound, added a legy upgrade to respevtive armor sets and mentally asked people to kitten off with that request. Your legendary PvP/WvW armor has no prestige and swag behind it because it was never intended to in the first place. Period.

I read it (past tense). Now read my post where I submitted the picture link. Now click on that link.

Let me take a step further and post a quote from GW2,

“There are no plans to release another set in the future. Legendary armor was introduced to PvP and WvW with the Aug 8th, 2017 balance patch. Since this is an upgrade, the stat-swappable armor does not include a new unique skin but is instead the same skin as the ascended piece that was upgraded.

So yes, I understand what you’re saying and I understand Anet’s grounds on the armor. It is Legendary armor and I am not asking for a new skin here. Just because the armor is an Upgraded version, does not make it the same exact armor. That’s what you need to understand.

Asking for some form of acknowledgement that we have the armor, isn’t going against Anet’s words at all. Not asking for another set. Not asking for skins.

Dianekas.4359:

Yep, still preventing me from advancing. Gg anet. Contacted support, no response. This is the kind of stuff that makes me question why i still put in so many hours in a game with bugs like this.

Support will get to your ticket in about 2 weeks, literally. They’re swamped right now and that’s an understatement.

Grimheart.2853:

Devs made it clear they’re not doing another pack of legendary armor skins any time soon. And any time soon in this case means probably never.

That’s not exactly what we’re asking for.

See the below picture link. Each yellow circle around our division represent a PvP Legendary Piece that we have made (not necessarily something we need to wear for this to show). Five armor pieces and The Ascension. Very minimal, simplistic, and it gets straight to the point. This is something i’m fine with.

https://ibb.co/jyx2KF
(title error but 2 lazy 2 fix)

Wargameur.6950:

It’s not a legendary armor, it’s an ascended armor with upgrades for stat swap. It was advertised as such, developed as such. You want to feel legendary ? Get that moon in next monthly

That’s your opinion. It’s Legendary armor because… it is. That’s a fact. If it’s just Ascended armor, they would have left it as just that.

[SPvP]
My Build from this demo weekend thread

Only build that gives you enough sustain and enough burst burns with F1. We’ll just have to see the changes (if any) they make following the September 22nd release but, this is what i’ll be running.

Bossun.2046:

I am about to craft my first piece and let me tell ya, I agree with OP. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll use it not stop in both wvw and whatever pve I might do, but that being said it still takes a good amount of time and gold to complete. Having something to indicate that I have legendary would be great. Even if it is a small fire on the shoulders similar to the The Ascension.

Approximately 2,500 gold to accumulate a total of 2,250 Gift materials for all 5 Legendary pieces (I do that math right?). Not counting countless hours in the seasons for tickets to craft the other Gifts.

Yea, I wouldn’t mind a small insignificant fire on my shoulder similar to The Ascension, too.

Sunshine.5014:

These entitlement posts are tiresome. If you want those, play PvE. It’s already great that we have cheap/accessible legendary armors in PvP/WvW.

Entitlement? I’m no millennial, I don’t feel entitled to anything and I work hard for what I have. All I’m asking for is something that indicates we’re using PvP Legendary armor.

Heck, I don’t even care if it’s just 5 small radio dots around our small division tag near our names… this isn’t asking much.

It’s something us PvP players really wanted and it’s great. Except there’s no bragging rights to it; something that tells people we have Legendary PvP armor.

I feel It should be something of a feet, though perhaps not moreso than showing off our high rank division, but I would like some attire specific change to the Legendary armor. Maybe a full set puts out a dim glow? Battle stance shoots out a burst effect similar to The Ascension?

It’s a Legendary armor after all. It can’t just.. be there. People should feel and look proud while wearing it. Instead, we forget that we have it on sometimes.

Please add some form of external expression. No new titles please!

Confirmed best Necro in game Zengara.
Confirmed worse Necro in game Lord Velar.

This thread 100% proofs.

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

same goes for druid if he control the point. so lets nerf druid.

I can beat druid just fine as burn guardian or my symbolic build 1v1. If you think Druids bunk as good or anywhere near as good as Vent Rev, you crazy.

Edit
Vent Rev reminds me of old Turret Engi. Except Turret Engi had weaknesses; they plant themselves on point and you rotate around them. Vent Rev can rotate freely with no limitations.

so this is your problem. you want to kill ventari as burn guard and you cant. change tactic and build as you are smart player.

Completely missing my point here. Not all Condi Builds counter Revs. As long as it takes to actually kill them, it’s just a soft counter… Not even a hard counter like how DH is to Necros.

No Plat/Legendary Guardian can kill a Plat/Legendary Vent Rev. If he does, then that Rev is Bronze tier. You and everyone else who says otherwise have low MMR and consistently play with bad players.

Eversor.5186:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

Well then, I hope you don’t queue in rank

And I wish you were on the same server and in my league so I could farm you.

guard cant kill a rev no matter their tier. necro can. and +1 by a thief also can do the job.
same goes for ele. in 1v1 hardly killable. conditions will kill him if pressure in team fight.

also have you ever thought not trying to kill him rather naturalize him by rotate his location. even a smart thief if sees ele will leave him alone

Again, my point is being missed but it’s difficult to explain myself through text sometimes.

I don’t ever attack a bunk Rev on a point he owns.
I can beat top Revs 1v1 on power builds (plat T2+) Just bunker Revs should never die 1v1 vs Guard ever.

Everything people are saying in this thread should be true, and it is with a good team… But this is solo/duoQ. Vent Revs will bait your Gold level players to 3v1 him and.. take a nap because he won’t die. These are just sad truths.

So anet need to nerf build cause ppl don’t learn and do mistakes ?!

That’s exactly what happened with Turret Engi lol… I thought they were fine but people didnt know how to deal with them so Anet removed them from the game.

The only reason Vent Rev won’t receive a nerf immediately is because PoF is being released. This was seen with Burn Burst Guard, the best core build before HoT launched. Once the patch hit, it didn’t matter.

It’s peculiar, but I already pre-ordered PoF and have no issues with this.

Honestly though, I’m curious if they want to see exactly how well PoF performs vs HoT builds.

Not all classes or builds. And these specific classes are not always condi.

If they have an Ele, you’ll never take mid efficiently enough unless they are of lower skill level.

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

same goes for druid if he control the point. so lets nerf druid.

I can beat druid just fine as burn guardian or my symbolic build 1v1. If you think Druids bunk as good or anywhere near as good as Vent Rev, you crazy.

Edit
Vent Rev reminds me of old Turret Engi. Except Turret Engi had weaknesses; they plant themselves on point and you rotate around them. Vent Rev can rotate freely with no limitations.

so this is your problem. you want to kill ventari as burn guard and you cant. change tactic and build as you are smart player.

Completely missing my point here. Not all Condi Builds counter Revs. As long as it takes to actually kill them, it’s just a soft counter… Not even a hard counter like how DH is to Necros.

No Plat/Legendary Guardian can kill a Plat/Legendary Vent Rev. If he does, then that Rev is Bronze tier. You and everyone else who says otherwise have low MMR and consistently play with bad players.

Eversor.5186:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

Well then, I hope you don’t queue in rank

And I wish you were on the same server and in my league so I could farm you.

guard cant kill a rev no matter their tier. necro can. and +1 by a thief also can do the job.
same goes for ele. in 1v1 hardly killable. conditions will kill him if pressure in team fight.

also have you ever thought not trying to kill him rather naturalize him by rotate his location. even a smart thief if sees ele will leave him alone

Again, my point is being missed but it’s difficult to explain myself through text sometimes.

I don’t ever attack a bunk Rev on a point he owns.
I can beat top Revs 1v1 on power builds (plat T2+) Just bunker Revs should never die 1v1 vs Guard ever.

Everything people are saying in this thread should be true, and it is with a good team… But this is solo/duoQ. Vent Revs will bait your Gold level players to 3v1 him and.. take a nap because he won’t die. These are just sad truths.

Sure absolutely, if I have a competent premade who knows rotations and could actually 2v1 quite quickly then I agree.

SoloQ/DuoQ…? It’s not that they can’t be killed, it often takes too long to do so. Almost every game I’m in, it’s taking way too long to down a vent Rev to the point where the rest of the enemy team snowballs other nodes.

Sure you competent duo with a half-ass decent Mesmer or Thief partner can either rotate around him or burst him down quickly enough (moa OP). Other team comps? Good luck with that.

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

same goes for druid if he control the point. so lets nerf druid.

I can beat druid just fine as burn guardian or my symbolic build 1v1. If you think Druids bunk as good or anywhere near as good as Vent Rev, you crazy.

Edit
Vent Rev reminds me of old Turret Engi. Except Turret Engi had weaknesses; they plant themselves on point and you rotate around them. Vent Rev can rotate freely with no limitations.

so this is your problem. you want to kill ventari as burn guard and you cant. change tactic and build as you are smart player.

Completely missing my point here. Not all Condi Builds counter Revs. As long as it takes to actually kill them, it’s just a soft counter… Not even a hard counter like how DH is to Necros.

No Plat/Legendary Guardian can kill a Plat/Legendary Vent Rev. If he does, then that Rev is Bronze tier. You and everyone else who says otherwise have low MMR and consistently play with bad players.

Eversor.5186:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

Well then, I hope you don’t queue in rank

And I wish you were on the same server and in my league so I could farm you.

messiah.1908:

Saiyan.1704:

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

same goes for druid if he control the point. so lets nerf druid.

I can beat druid just fine as burn guardian or my symbolic build 1v1. If you think Druids bunk as good or anywhere near as good as Vent Rev, you crazy.

Edit
Vent Rev reminds me of old Turret Engi. Except Turret Engi had weaknesses; they plant themselves on point and you rotate around them. Vent Rev can rotate freely with no limitations.

Eversor.5186:

learn to play….Ventari is so weak against CCand condi …..it’s nothing close to pistolero thief that reaaaaaaly needs to get nerfed, Ventari is just fine, people should learn how to play, plus! the salvation trait line is sooooo constraining ….I mean do you even play rev? My condi rev eats Ventari in one rotation

And if there’s no Condi classes on your team? Not even my burn guard can down a vent Rev 1v1 efficiently. At least not quick enough for a worth while.

Bunk Revs are basically a beefed up bunker Guardian back in 2014. Sure you can rotate around the punching bag but taking the point is futile. The “better” bunker Revs knows how to survive long enough in a 1v2 to matter while rotating around the map so the team can Zerg elsewhere for a snowball potential.

Bunk Revs are OP because there’s no efficient way to actually beat it… you just gotta work around it and pray your teammates don’t 1v1 him on a point he controls :/

otto.5684:

Saiyan.1704:

otto.5684:

As for sPvP.. nothing FB offers can compete with VoJ. Not even close. Virtues/Med/Radiance or Zeal is much better than any condi build possible with FB in sPvP, at least as far as the stress test goes. We do not know what will happen on release.

I will say that it’ll simply be FB > DH > Core in the end.

• Core – be it power or Burn burst, performs worse than the two elites because it lacks Sustains and overall Stability in clutch situations.
• DH and FB – it’s a bit too soon to see build effectiveness in competitive PvP but FB has the potential to deal higher team-wide bursts, higher effectiveness in team fight amongst allies, and sustaining itself the same if not better.

It’ll be curious how well each and every profession will utilize these Core, DH and FB builds.

You have to test core condi guardian lately. 2k voj aoe procs plus the improved torch 4 are deadly.

The build has higher bursts per usual but again, it doesn’t sustain longer than burn DH. Cleanse on block performs better vs Condi Thieves, Necro’s, other burn Guards. The cover conditions means your 5stack auto burns won’t get cleansed, yielding a higher dps threshold throughout a 1v1 fight.

Core Guard hasn’t gotten a buff since F1 received 4s burn durations. It’s the same exact build.

Ok so i hope this isn’t a fluke or anything, going to play for a few games straight leading up to next week. This weekend will determine whether or not I lag :o

1.) Right click gw2 > Properties > add -dx9single in the target file.
2.) Properties > Compatibility for Windows 8 (only if you’re on windows 10)
3.) Run as Administrator [] checkbox enabled.

I’ll update this post this come Sunday/Monday.

otto.5684:

As for sPvP.. nothing FB offers can compete with VoJ. Not even close. Virtues/Med/Radiance or Zeal is much better than any condi build possible with FB in sPvP, at least as far as the stress test goes. We do not know what will happen on release.

I will say that it’ll simply be FB > DH > Core in the end.

• Core – be it power or Burn burst, performs worse than the two elites because it lacks Sustains and overall Stability in clutch situations.
• DH and FB – it’s a bit too soon to see build effectiveness in competitive PvP but FB has the potential to deal higher team-wide bursts, higher effectiveness in team fight amongst allies, and sustaining itself the same if not better.

It’ll be curious how well each and every profession will utilize these Core, DH and FB builds.

Yes.. nerf them… nerf all of them!

Because there’s no “auto dishonor” vote system in this game like there are in most other games. I don’t have an answer as to why that is..

[spvp] The axe performs better in power crit scaling in power gear than the effectiveness of bleeds in carrion gear, for sure. I suppose axe is OK if it lands in groups to dish out burns+bleeds but I still prefer my 1-hander Sword/Scepter. Their base power is lower but on Firebrand, speed wins. They simply dish out burns quicker and that’s what FB spec is all about.

ToJ stands alone from Dragonhunter’s SoJ because they’re separate elite specs. It’s still a nerf to base VoJ, sure, but it is not technically a nerf of DH’s SoJ itself.

I’ll just see myself out now.

Sorry I don’t share the same opinion there. I was never a fan of old Tomes in any aspect; aesthetics nor abilities.

Captain Obvious.6951:

Robban.1256:

Sunshine.5014:

Retaliation is too strong in PvP/WvW, and too weak in PvE.

They should make it so that Retaliation only affects melee attacks, and increase its damage a bit. Something like 1s internal cooldown is also good.

PVE:At level 80, retaliation deals damage according to this formula:
200 + (0.075 * Power)

In PvP and WvW, retaliation damage is reduced by 33.33% and calculated with this formula:

133 + (0.05 * Power)

K so 133 + (.05*2000 = 100) = 233 per hit

Unload 8 = hits, 1.5 seconds

8×233 = 1864 damage

3 unloads = 5,592 damage, in 4.5 seconds. That’s absolutely ridiculous damage for doing absolutely nothing.

Sure, doing nothing for high profit is always annoying but Retal isn’t one of those things. It kills nothing but bad glassy thieves. All you have to do is attack once, notice you’re taking damage, then stop attacking. Does stowing your weapon not cancel the ability? Doesn’t matter, read Boons on a target and notice whether or not they have Retal up.

Know what’s more annoying than Retal? A thief unloading with pistols from range and asking to have less counters.

/15EscalatedChars

Omg thank you! Sheesh… everyone said i automatically learned but but i didn’t get a notification or guide on where to find it lol.

Appreciate it.

I have weaponsmith at 500, the 75 Stabilizing Matrix and the Ball of Dark Energy

The wiki is not clear on how to physically make it. I’m pretty certain i need to craft it myself on the Weaponsmith table but I can’t learn it myself, so is there a place to buy the recipe?

Thanks,

I had an authenticator GW2 issue myself when I lost my authenticator phone. I redownloaded it and got back the authenticator but it no longer worked.

Had to submit a ticket to have the devs completely remove the authenticator from my account. They got back to me within 3 days but this was before the patch

In competitive I’m curious how the proposed SYG + RF will fair vs consistent cc pressure. SYG is on a relatively long CD whose Stability lasts 6s. You’ll need to spam F2 heals then immediately enter F3 for more stability, then F1 if able. After that you’ll be a sitting duck and succeptible to getting interrupted after using RF unless you can jump on F3 successfully.

Mantra Elite give you the option to use any virtue first, including a successful burst. Three Stability + stunbreaker for 5s and you’ll get a refresh charge every 15s.

Arcaedus.7290:

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The best build I found for roaming, small-scale fights and even held its own in 1v1s was similar to an spvp build that Saiyan posted about:

Valor (traited for medis)
Virtues (typical burn-guard traiting; take Permeating wrath over Indomitable Courage)
Firebrand 3, 3, 3 (Full traiting for tomes).

Heal: Mantra of Solace
Utilities: Judges Intervention, Smite condition, Mantra of Lore
Elite: Mantra of Liberation

Weapons: Axe/focus & Sword/shield.

Gear:

• Dire weapons and armor (this is what I’ll be using live due to ease of acquiring), Trailblazer trinkets.
• Sigils: Smoldering + Geomancy on axe/focus (since it procs when coming out of tomes) and Doom + Geomancy on sword/shield (for burst/cover condis after a ToJ burst).
• Runes: Balthazer, no question about it.

If I knew without a doubt that I’d be up against a build(s) that wasn’t heavy on condition damage, I changed out Mantra of Lore for Signet of Wrath or Signet of Judgement.

Focus of this build was full defensive utilities, dps on axe/focus and all the damage/burst coming from ToJ. Fully traited tomes means the burst was on a decent cooldown, and with 11 casts I could always get a minimum of 4-5 burning stacks off on a target even if they knew to sustain/cleanse/dodge while I was in ToJ.

Between the heal, elite, focus/shield, heal from medis and ToR + ToC, I generally had enough sustain to survive group-focus for a short while and did especially well vs condition-heavy builds.

Small-scale encounters and 1v1s relied on landing ToJ bursts which I had to be patient for. When I did land them, I could easily get off 14-21 stacks of burning, off of a practically instant JI combo which is far superior to anything that core burn guard or DH can pull off.

The only thing that gave this build a lot of trouble was a spellbreaker. Extremely high resistance up time on their part and no ability to strip boons on my part equated to a hard counter. CC comboes they had allowed them to land bursts on me consistently since all I had in the way of defence was blocks and 2 dodges (they have unblockables).

Can’t speak for WvW but I had to kite most Spellbreaker while needing good F2#5 + medi heal rotations to top off myself. Though I won every soloQ Spellbreaker fight, I don’t feel we should ever win vs them in an open field. Maybe side points in spvp if we LoS well. Sigil of Annulment is a must vs Spellbreaker too.

Substance E.4852:

Saiyan.1704:

If everyone is offering conditions all at once, why should it not be bursty? If you and your team’s fault for running glass builds, not having an Ele to swap to, etc.

Anet made it our responsibility to swap classes before a game starts.

This “just bring a counter” argument is how we snowballed into the current mess of condi burst vs rolling cleanses we have now.

Rather than taking a stand, anet just keeps pilling on to each side of the scales hoping kitten will balance out eventually.

It’s gotten so bad they had to invent a whole new boon just to give immunity to conditions. They never should have let things get to the point where Resistance was ever needed.

Bringing a “counter class” is what yall voted for..

As for Resistance, that came out with Revenant, the boon being this other new thing the class had. They eventually gave it to other classes, with Guardian being the last class they gave it to (on 1 shout that no one ever uses). It’s not exactly a boon that replaces profession specific cleanses… we still need cleanses. It’s more of a quality of life addition (think warrior).

Symbolic DH with cleanse on block can also counter most, if not all, condi classes; it’s not just Ele that helps vs condi. So that 1 Guardian on your team who keeps on dying to condi needs to either learn other builds or needs to l2p.

If everyone is offering conditions all at once, why should it not be bursty? If you and your team’s fault for running glass builds, not having an Ele to swap to, etc.

Anet made it our responsibility to swap classes before a game starts.

Anyone else get weird pings such as this? The average ping in the picture below fluctuates and can be a LOT higher than the ping on the left… which doesn’t make sense to me.

This is correct; it’s a bug that simply doesn’t work on other weapons as well

Also like to add that a downed guardian’s auto attack does not trigger F1 passive burns. While Condi Thief down auto is fine and Power Guard (anything power built actually) have the upper hand in downed state… It’s not fair.

I use ToF/Smite Condition/Judges on my utility bar. It’s basically the usual LB meta build except go Cleanse on Block in DH tree.

Can go Virtues/Valor/DH or swap Virtues with Zeal for more damages; bursts with Shattered Aegis.

Shadowshear.2095:

Hello!

As with many, I am super excited for Firebrand to come out. It may actually make a support Guardian viable!

However there is one issue I wanted to bring up, since I hadn’t seen it be mentioned anywhere else, and it has to do with the targeting of the mantra skills.

I play primarily with the action camera on, but I even turned it off for a while and still ran into the same problem, even with action camera off.

The problem is this: The cone AoEs for mantras always emit from your character’s facing, not your camera’s facing.

A strong point that effects all game modes. The very narrow cone wouldn’t be as big an issue if we can use it properly. We’re never looking where our character is looking. I often have to walk backwards to pivot my character around to Cone somebody.

The front face of a character isn’t exact while in motion so the cone effect definitely needs improvement.

Brutaly.6257:

For me it is not the mitigation part that is interesting in RF, it is the recharge of the tomes.
I used SyG when i activated F2 and/or F3 and F1 i precharged every time before i made contact. I think SyG handled cc very well when i entered F1/F2.

In quickness builds i will use shout och mantra as elite but in a build that focuses on tomes i cant see RF not being used..

That would work. For my Sage build the utilities I use are SC/Judges/Mantra of Lore. The mantra is the only utility worth giving up but vs a Condi comp I’ll have to take it over SYG

MachineManXX.9746:

katniss.6735:

I had a ftp ranger on my team that never left lbow and never had a pet out, probably because he didn’t even explore the world to unlock anything good. He admitted he was a ftp player. I’m not just guessing. This was in platinum 2.

Firstly – There is no need to flat out lie to make a point. It is not even possible to not have a pet out. You choose a pet at character creation. It is automatically out when you join the world. Even if you try to stow it, pretty much anything you do brings it back out.

Secondly – By your statement, you just made a case that vanilla specs can indeed at least make it to platinum 2.

Have to agree with the above. Firebrand is a unique name and class of its own. Sure we could be called… Paladins, or Monks, or Paragons, but that’s boring.

Malthurius.6870:

Firebrand is quite a cool name, as Leo G mentioned:

Firebrand is a term, when referring to a person, used to describe someone who causes unrest or strife in a group by aggressively promoting a cause. In a religious tone, it’s someone who preaches in an aggressive way. It harkens to a period of evangelical firebrands that would call people sinners and how they’d burn in hell.

I think a Guardian reading from tomes and shouting mantra’s at enemies and allies alike fits the theme behind the name Firebrand. It’s definitely a better realized fantasy than Dragon Hunter was.

Brutaly.6257:

Malthurius.6870:

In general, quickness isn’t as coveted as it once was, and Firebrand will end up having a lot more sources of it. FmW may retain limited use in WvW, but that range isn’t much of a selling point in other game types, imo.

And pvp even though i can not see RF being replaced in any competetive build but if compared to the mantra, it is better.

From what I’ve seen Mantra of Liberation out performed Renewed Focus. Instantly having the ability to cast (3x) a Stability + Stun breaker means we’ll be able to continue to self sustain ourselves with F2/F3 or continue to deal burst F1 damages without interruptions.

If other Firebrands are having issues on self sustaining themselves, then they weren’t utilizing their F2 heals and F3 damage mitigations properly.

RF would be fine if our virtues weren’t interruptible – we otherwise get blown up with CC’s the moment we leave RF.

I can’t, not, buy it. Especially now that Guardian takes more skill to play, to the point where people think Firebrand needs a heck of a lot of buffs. I’ll take it.

PvP has it’s frustrations but there is no other PvP game in the same genre that beats GW2 for the price and competition…. and I don’t play many games so yea, i’m going to buy it for sure.

It would be interesting if it had a Litany of Wrath effect that lasts for 3 seconds or so. It would make for interesting plays, using it for defensive purposes while attempting to deal AoE damages, using it for offensive purposes while not worrying too much about aoe around you, or just worrying about getting CC’d because you don’t have Mantra of Potence.

RedZebra.2345:

(2) (3) players will find ways around it (ex report and see main account)

Could remove the report system. Doesn’t work anyway amirite? Kappa

Kuya.6495:

Use meditrapper if you duo q. Use symbolic if you solo q (which you say you will). Use Marauders amulet though and not menders.

^ This.

Azukas.1426:

Saiyan.1704:

He’s a Rev where 1 click can teleport and do damage regardless of ping. Another click does an auto-target 3k burst.. stop trolling the OP

He’s posting because he’s frustrated just like the rest of us and has been posting about his ping frustrations prior to making this post. I witnessed his map chat vent after the game. I too was venting about my 2k random ping spikes. There’s no conspiracy here folks…

Everyone, please post in this thread just as I have because we’re not the only ones… obviously.

He’s got screenshots let em post them of the post game results

..wut?

mrauls.6519:

My ping has been ridiculously high too! Can someone help me troubleshoot?

It’s pretty much everyone The servers pick and chooses who lags and who doesn’t! :p

The thing is, no one ever really plays to lose either. Players being more “serious” in a match won’t spontaneously win games or have improved playstyle. In the end all this does is limit GW2 as a casual game and turn away a lot of the player base. Even the better Plat players who at least wants pips for their efforts.

Ramoth.9064:

Saiyan.1704:

Ramoth.9064:

How will your division be calculated though? Do you get several leaderboards and such?

Anet never went into detail because it never happened but there would be (possibly implemented) at least 1 additional Profession Leaderboard that list your ranking among all the Guardians, Elementalists, Engineers, etc, in the game.

If I were to make a Thief and I never played a Thief, that profession’s Division is shown after placements per usual. Of which, it’ll probably be Bronze or Silver because i’m a really bad Thief. But when I swap to my Guardian it will show Plat rating next to the class per usual.

My account could just show the highest division among all the classes, so that could be the single leaderboard we all use currently.

That sounds good. I do think the ease of gaming the matchmaking currently is hilarious though. People think individual class MMR will affect matchmaking speed though. Its always a battle between match quality and match quantity I guess

And that’s the thing I speculate… I have seen Anet completely remove all rules from the system to the point where everyone got 5 to 10 second queue times (forgot when this was). So speed of grabbing a match isn’t the issue, it’s whether or not these matches are of quality… can it really be worse than it already is? Removing class stacking alone should pay for itself.

Ramoth.9064:

How will your division be calculated though? Do you get several leaderboards and such?

Anet never went into detail because it never happened but there would be (possibly implemented) at least 1 additional Profession Leaderboard that list your ranking among all the Guardians, Elementalists, Engineers, etc, in the game. (a tab of sorts)

If I were to make a Thief and I never played a Thief, that profession’s Division is shown after placements per usual. Of which, it’ll probably be Bronze or Silver because i’m a really bad Thief. But when I swap to my Guardian it will show Plat rating next to the class per usual.

My account could just show the highest division among all the classes, so that could be the single leaderboard we all use currently.