There’s a skill retrainer for every class in the middle of Queen’s Jubilee. This should provide you a clue that respecing is probably something the designers wanted you to do.
It goes alone with what Guild Wars is like. For example the other night in Guild Wars I spent an hour and half alone trying out different builds for Glint’s Challenge, and I still could not beat it. I got up to wave 7 and was wiped by Destroyer of Lives. Nasty beasts! :o
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/8/8d/Destroyer_of_Lives.jpg
Do guardians have to respec to finish the gauntlet? No? Then I don’t see why anyone else should.
Actually, I’ve seen quite a few Guardians say they needed to respec, and of course some did not (myself being one of them).
On the other hand, some necros say they had no need to respec and completed it and simply plowed through it with their normal condition builds.
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You folks are all just too young, first time I saw them I was immediatly reminded of “Metropolis” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_. A Classic if there ever was one and I thought the Devs took inspiration from there…
If the robots looked like the statue in that wiki article, I wouldn’t have a problem. Or heck, EDI from mass effect. She was pretty but still clothed.
………..I’m sorry, but EDI was FAR more sexualized then these could ever hope to be.
How you can have a problem with these and not EDI is beyond me.
Gotta agree with this, how is EDI less sexualized than the watchknights?
Speaking of Mass Effect, my first reaction to the watchknights was that they creeped me out a bit and their imposing statue and and somewhat dissected female curvature reminded me of the banshees from Mass Effect 3.
You know……I completely forgot about the Banshees (for good reason…….) and yeah, you’re totally right.
You folks are all just too young, first time I saw them I was immediatly reminded of “Metropolis” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_. A Classic if there ever was one and I thought the Devs took inspiration from there…
That’s what I thought as well………but well, this is why we can’t have nice things.
You folks are all just too young, first time I saw them I was immediatly reminded of “Metropolis” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_. A Classic if there ever was one and I thought the Devs took inspiration from there…
If the robots looked like the statue in that wiki article, I wouldn’t have a problem. Or heck, EDI from mass effect. She was pretty but still clothed.
………..I’m sorry, but EDI was FAR more sexualized then these could ever hope to be.
How you can have a problem with these and not EDI is beyond me.
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I would really like to know how many people won the fight using a norn or a charr in the end. That would be interesting…
Max height norn here, beat her. The trick is to stay near the center for phase 2, camera becomes a non-issue at that point.
To be honest I always just used Save Yourself or Retreat to outrun the dog.
Binding Blades also works if I recall correctly.
Your solution won’t work either,
I see you don´t want to argue the point but just “win” an internet argument and defend beloved ANet.
Suit yourself, I´m tired of this game.
Especially when I´m supposed to argue with someone who doesn´t even understand my point.
I’d like to point out I have seen Teh speak out against Anet, in particular with regards to the new fellblade look-alike.
I do so love it when people pull a fanboy attack on someone who has shown not to be just to win an argument.
But then, pulling the fanboy card has always been all sorts of stupid.
…………OP, do you know what scamming is?
Get real. Forget Liadri, a good number of the other bosses are too hard already. I’ll never even see Liadri because too many of the other fights are luck-based. When you’re fighting things that ignore the combat tools that work everywhere else in the game, like evading for example, it becomes a frustrating exercise of trial-and-error. ArenaNet, word of advice: players hate it when the game cheats.
What? Which boss exactly can you not evade? Trial and error is part of any challenge, when you get an Achievement its because you’ve Achieved something.
I’m guessing the mines. They still hit you through evade.
Honestly…..I never set off the mines when I fought him o_o
The mysterious Sylvari being Scarlet is…weird. She doesn’t look like she was corrupted by the Nightmare.
Sylvari aren’t always nice and good. They can seem ruthless. But plotting to assassinate someone to take power in a pirate council…That’s something we haven’t seen from Sylvari.Eh, I wouldn’t put it past Faolin personally if she could get past her torture and Dream corruption fetish.
I would like to apologize though that we even an that arguement. : 3
Never saw it as an argument, like I said I tend just to be blunt. To me it was just another lore discussion. I do apologize however if you felt differently.
I agree there
I remember playing Arkham City…………don’t get me wrong, I love the combat in that game……..but when I got a achievement for essentially climbing a roof in a scripted event I was like “……….hold on, what was that for?”
The mysterious Sylvari being Scarlet is…weird. She doesn’t look like she was corrupted by the Nightmare.
Sylvari aren’t always nice and good. They can seem ruthless. But plotting to assassinate someone to take power in a pirate council…That’s something we haven’t seen from Sylvari.
Eh, I wouldn’t put it past Faolin personally if she could get past her torture and Dream corruption fetish.
If you play through DMD mode on the very first game fresh with no extended health bar with just what you were able to aquire at the time, a Devil triggered shadow will one shot you with the spear attack. With that in mind if you make a mistake you die. Same as Liadri. In devil may cry you would stock up on some health to counter that. which is adapting.
People complain saying I shouldn’t have to retrait specifically for this and that. Yes, yes you do. You bring the right tools for the job or expect to lose. There is a reason why there is an npc to retrait inside the pavilion area. You’ve played Devil may cry, that’s like saying wow I Shouldn’t have to use Ifrit to beat nightmare on dmd I want to use Alastor. Another example is fighting a Conditionmancer and then losing only to complain and say " I shouldnt have to use Condition removal to win". lol what?
Are you insane? That is THE hardest setting in the entire game, which you can’t even do until you’ve already beaten the game, and most people never even used it.
You can’t compare that to first-tier enemies with no added difficulty.
I’m sorry, but if you’re finding the tier 1 enemies difficult, this one small piece of content was never designed for you in the first place.
Since my previous post is to long.
On to the sylvari.
I’m sorry, but your opinion would lead to some horribly boring and 1 dimensional characters. Even Caithe, a good Sylvari, has some cruel tendencies because the world has taught her to.
That is the basis of the Sylvari. A new, young, and naive race. Each Sylvari either grows, learns, and adapts in their own way……or they die.
I do not think so at all and that is your opinion. Again this why you come off hostile cause you come of condescending when your comments. You make think it would make one dimensional characters, that is your opinion. Do not sit here and dictate what is right and wrong. I made it clear it was my opinion and if you don’t agree that is fine.
Thank you for the info on the Charr. I would ask this is put back on topic now cause regardless if I like it or now, the evil tree is in league with the pirates.
And you are entitled to your opinion. You are however not free of criticism of said opinion. You call it hostility, I call it being blunt and you just being a tad bit over-sensitive. I’m not going to sugar coat stuff.
Constructive critism and this is my point. I asked nicely to please stop and you want to continue. Instead you want to keep going and going. Please STOP and put the thread back on track.
It is still on topic actually. You have a problem with a Sylvari potentially being the one behind this all because it doesn’t fit your definition of Sylvari, I’ve simply explained why there is no issue with it in regards to the lore and why quite honestly your definition goes against the lore itself.
But since you have an issue with the very discussion you began, then ok we can drop it.
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Since my previous post is to long.
On to the sylvari.
I’m sorry, but your opinion would lead to some horribly boring and 1 dimensional characters. Even Caithe, a good Sylvari, has some cruel tendencies because the world has taught her to.
That is the basis of the Sylvari. A new, young, and naive race. Each Sylvari either grows, learns, and adapts in their own way……or they die.
I do not think so at all and that is your opinion. Again this why you come off hostile cause you come of condescending when your comments. You make think it would make one dimensional characters, that is your opinion. Do not sit here and dictate what is right and wrong. I made it clear it was my opinion and if you don’t agree that is fine.
Thank you for the info on the Charr. I would ask this is put back on topic now cause regardless if I like it or now, the evil tree is in league with the pirates.
And you are entitled to your opinion. You are however not free of criticism of said opinion. You call it hostility, I call it being blunt and you just being a tad bit over-sensitive. I’m not going to sugar coat stuff.
The fact of the matter is, your opinion of what the Sylvari are and should be goes directly against the lore itself.
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Since my previous post is to long.
On to the sylvari.
I’m sorry, but your opinion would lead to some horribly boring and 1 dimensional characters. Even Caithe, a good Sylvari, has some cruel tendencies because the world has taught her to.
That is the basis of the Sylvari. A new, young, and naive race. Each Sylvari either grows, learns, and adapts in their own way……or they die.
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The countess is probably E. The mystery sylvari who Rox took potshots at is probably Scarlet. but yay for another month of killing aetherblades I guess.
The one thing I hate with this game is the races just don’t fit at all with certain things. Charrs should of never been able to be magic based classes, it just sours the lore. A random tree girl is leading pirates?! I can see maybe human or charr and possibly norn but the other 2 not so much.
Just kills it for me personally.
Charr have ALWAYS had magical abilities since GW1 Prophecies, it changes nothing.
Or are you saying Charr should never allow magic users into their ranks due to the flame legion? In that case, that would just make the Charr military leadership hilariously stupid.
As for sylvari, why not exactly?
I never played GW1 but from what I read that is the whole reason they went to technology cause they lack magic to fight the humans? I only know what I was read and told about them.
The trees were just born out of the pale tree learning about the world and all of sudden one becomes a pirate leader? I didn’t like the other one either they used for the Karka. I personally just don’t see it working all that well.
On the subject of Charr: No, the Charr believe that it was due to the Gods favoring humanity. This resulted in the Charr seeking Gods for power, which led to the Flame Legion.
As for the Sylvari, we have the Nightmare Court. Why is this Sylvari such a stretch? Hell for all we know she could be linked to the Nightmare Court.
I don’t like the idea of the nightmare court and please keep the hostility down.
Hostility? I think you’re reading way to much into things.
Also, refer to my previous post, I edited it just as you replied. It concerns the nature of the Sylvari.
This is my opinion.
I don’t like the concept of evil versions of sylvari. It would of been nice to have a race that didn’t have a good or evil side, simply just neutral. Being they are literally tree people, this would of been a great idea vs like wood elves or something. Now to have something relating to a nightmare I think is a good idea, but not evil versions of the sylvari.
The only thing I know about the Charr is they went heavy tech to compensate for the lack of magic. I don’t know much about the Flame Legion but I never liked the idea that any race could be any class. It just homogenizes everything and makes the world feel less spectacular. Cultures differ from each other and not everyone is the same and since there is no actual comflict, ie pvp with other races like WoW, having limits on the classes wouldn’t cause a balance issue.
Again my opinion.
The Charr never went heavy tech due to lack of magic, they did so because of their distrust of magic users in general.
Basically the back story of the Charr is this:
Humans defeated them, took land from them. As a result, the Charr blamed the humans being favored by the Gods. So in order to become more powerful, the Charr felt they had to seek “their” Gods and this led to the Shaman Caste (now known as the Flame Legion) to take powerful and oppressed the Charr. This led to female charr essentially being demoted to non-combat, often oppressed, roles in Charr society.
Eventually, the Flame Legion discovered the Titans, and claimed them as the Charr Gods. This led to the Searing, which was one of many powerful blows the Humanity as a whole. By the end of the first campaign the player character (again, Human) outright killed the Titans. This led to the Flame Legion seeking out something to replace the Titans as they knew their position of power relied on the Charr believing in Gods and believing the Shamans spoke for them. Fast forward to Eye of The North, the Flame Legion discover The Destroyers (actually Elder Dragon Minions). Some Charr however, are not buying this. With the help of a Charr named Pyre Fierceshot, the player character kills The Destroyers right in front of the Flame Legion and their followers. This sows the seeds of rebellion in the Charr.
Finally, a female Charr descended from Pyre ( his grand cub I think?) sets in motion a rebellion of the female charr. The female Charr under her leadership train for war in secret. Eventually, she makes herself known and the Flame Legion is overthown largely in thanks to her and the females under her leadership.
This resulted in the Charr strictly opposing the worship of any Gods, and due to the flame legion, distrusting magic in general and prefering to rely on metal. They don’t reject magic users, but Charr society looks down on them with a great deal of distrust.
Didnt anet say some time that we would know scarlet? As in we already know her, we just don’t know it’s her.
If that’s true I doubt the female sylvari is scarlet. What female sylvari do you actually know well? Caithe is the only one I can think of and I doubt she’d turn evil.
It’s possible she’s disguised by Mesmer magic. Anisse for example has been shown to be talented at this as have others such as that risen mesmer in the personal story. Now of course that could also point at Anisse as some theories speculate.
The countess is probably E. The mystery sylvari who Rox took potshots at is probably Scarlet. but yay for another month of killing aetherblades I guess.
The one thing I hate with this game is the races just don’t fit at all with certain things. Charrs should of never been able to be magic based classes, it just sours the lore. A random tree girl is leading pirates?! I can see maybe human or charr and possibly norn but the other 2 not so much.
Just kills it for me personally.
Charr have ALWAYS had magical abilities since GW1 Prophecies, it changes nothing.
Or are you saying Charr should never allow magic users into their ranks due to the flame legion? In that case, that would just make the Charr military leadership hilariously stupid.
As for sylvari, why not exactly?
I never played GW1 but from what I read that is the whole reason they went to technology cause they lack magic to fight the humans? I only know what I was read and told about them.
The trees were just born out of the pale tree learning about the world and all of sudden one becomes a pirate leader? I didn’t like the other one either they used for the Karka. I personally just don’t see it working all that well.
On the subject of Charr: No, the Charr believe that it was due to the Gods favoring humanity. This resulted in the Charr seeking Gods for power, which led to the Flame Legion.
As for the Sylvari, we have the Nightmare Court. Why is this Sylvari such a stretch? Hell for all we know she could be linked to the Nightmare Court.
I don’t like the idea of the nightmare court and please keep the hostility down.
Hostility? I think you’re reading way to much into things.
Also, refer to my previous post, I edited it just as you replied. It concerns the nature of the Sylvari.
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The countess is probably E. The mystery sylvari who Rox took potshots at is probably Scarlet. but yay for another month of killing aetherblades I guess.
The one thing I hate with this game is the races just don’t fit at all with certain things. Charrs should of never been able to be magic based classes, it just sours the lore. A random tree girl is leading pirates?! I can see maybe human or charr and possibly norn but the other 2 not so much.
Just kills it for me personally.
Charr have ALWAYS had magical abilities since GW1 Prophecies, it changes nothing.
Or are you saying Charr should never allow magic users into their ranks due to the flame legion? In that case, that would just make the Charr military leadership hilariously stupid.
As for sylvari, why not exactly?
I never played GW1 but from what I read that is the whole reason they went to technology cause they lack magic to fight the humans? I only know what I was read and told about them.
The trees were just born out of the pale tree learning about the world and all of sudden one becomes a pirate leader? I didn’t like the other one either they used for the Karka. I personally just don’t see it working all that well.
On the subject of Charr: No, the Charr believe that it was due to the Gods favoring humanity. This resulted in the Charr seeking Gods for power, which led to the Flame Legion.
As for the Sylvari, we have the Nightmare Court who are a result of The Dream basically being perverted by suffering. Why is this Sylvari such a stretch? Hell for all we know she could be linked to the Nightmare Court.
We also don’t know the true nature of the Sylvari or the Pale Tree. It’s very possible that the Sylvari we play are in fact not the norm. For example in the personal story you meet a Sylvari who came from a different tree, yet The Dream does not exist for that tree.
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The countess is probably E. The mystery sylvari who Rox took potshots at is probably Scarlet. but yay for another month of killing aetherblades I guess.
The one thing I hate with this game is the races just don’t fit at all with certain things. Charrs should of never been able to be magic based classes, it just sours the lore. A random tree girl is leading pirates?! I can see maybe human or charr and possibly norn but the other 2 not so much.
Just kills it for me personally.
Charr have ALWAYS had magical abilities since GW1 Prophecies, it changes nothing.
Or are you saying Charr should never allow magic users into their ranks due to the flame legion? In that case, that would just make the Charr military leadership hilariously stupid.
As for sylvari, why not exactly?
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I can agree with Color Blind settings, it’s something that MANY games and not just GW2 need to do.
I’m honestly angry at this point.
Last year the game started off terrific. Who cares if all the WoW kiddies got bored within the first 3 weeks and ran back as soon as their Pandas&Pokemon expansion came out? That’s the way it should have stayed. Not slowly being contorted into a l00t treadmill ever since Fractals and everything else in that vein were forced into it.Gw1 kept simple. We’d get a mini for each Alt, and all the Cupcakes we could find.
And we could STACK those cupcakes with whatever hell other Consumes we wanted.I want that back. Not this …. Zynga iPad App that not even Dhuum would curse upon us…
…. What are you even talking about?
I think he just drank some Norn ale and has fallen into a drunken rant state.
Are you sure it’s the AoE and not her Visions? The AoE circles are completely accurate for me.
Clock Tower and Liadri, the only actually difficult PVE achievements so far in this game…………………and people starting crying.
Hmmm…..I don’t know, I think Liandri is honestly at a good level of difficulty and as someone said further increasing the difficulty does run the risk of causing problems for other classes.
That being said, I DO like the idea of profession specific bosses on the level of Liardi.
Instead of raging, why not pay attention to him and why his dog runs off at times?
As soon as you see him about to toss the meat for chomper, get to it first. If chomper eats enough meat, you WILL lose. A speed boost of some kind helps here, or CCing chomper. The food buffs you just as well as chomper.
Keep the good away from chomper, and you will be fine.
ArenaNet, please stop trolling the player base and remove all non-berserk/rampager gear from pve, since that they are obviously useless.
Funny, I completed it with the majority of my gear being knight.
I’m sure anyone could complete it with trial and error and not minding dying zillion times, but that is not for me. I simply hate dying in any game always have and i guess this content isn’t meant for me. Break for gw2 may be in order.
So basically you want content where you don’t have to think and learn from your mistakes.
Now I see the problem.
Quaggan gonna foo up your day
ArenaNet, please stop trolling the player base and remove all non-berserk/rampager gear from pve, since that they are obviously useless.
Funny, I completed it with the majority of my gear being knight.
That’s what make the fight interesting. If you could just face tank autoattack, what’s the point.
It doesn’t make the fight challenging when it’s all luck based. You need luck so she doesn’t place the light portals on the very edge of the arena, making it harder to walk visions into them.
You need luck on where she decides to place the aoe, either forcing too many dodges in a row or allowing for endurance to regen. You need luck where the visions spawn, so you don’t constantly get mobbed as not only do you need to kite this ridiculous mob of visions while the boss is wailing on you and you got a 2 min limit on beating her.
Yup, you totally need luck.
Except for the fact it all follows a very strict pattern.
I beat it with the same build I’ve been using for a while tbh.
0/5/30/30/5 shout/AH based
I used my normal GS/Hammer combo for most of the fights, although for Liadri I beat her with scepter/focus
Gear is full knights with zerker weapons and a mix of knight/zerker trinkets.
Sorry for being the sour apple, but this makes me wonder where ANet’s priorities are…
Because one random, just for fun NPC totally brought all their development to a screeching halt.
Totally
And why is there waiting: so people can watch other fights. Does anyone care? No, because they are busy with their boss. Nobody cares about the other fighting basically. No one cares for this gimmick.
It would work, if it would be like PvP spectating where you can actually see what someone is doing and see their build! That would be fun to see how others are doing it and learning something. But watching through the dome is just stupid, you don’t really see anything of interest.
You don’t speak for the entire player base. And in general you shouldn’t make such sweeping generalizations.
In my experience, in one day of the event, people were getting into spectating. Players were cheering each other on in /s and doing emotes. If someone was having trouble with a boss, the people that were watching what they were doing and how they died would give advice or suggestions. In an overflow, I and a few others spent easily over an hour at a single dome, having a blast. Someone got Liandri and we had a little dance party.Those people added me to their friends lists.
To summarize, its working as intended. And my single experience, invalidates your entire generalization.
In fact, we learned something valuable recently that you should keep in mind…
during the election, the forums heavily favored Evon and the Abaddon Fractal. Yes, there were Kiel supporters also, but the Evon support was overwhelming. There were even threads based on how there would be no way Evon could lose because all of the events and rewards were skewed his way. There were screen shots of forum goers with stacks of Evon buttons that had used boosters. Despite all of that, Evon lost. The lesson there is that not only is the forum community smaller than it thinks it is, but it is also totally out of touch with what the majority of the player base thinks, wants and enjoys.Just because you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean no one does. Just because forum monsters are mad they cant rush through the gauntlet without interacting with anyone, doesn’t mean a large amount of users aren’t having fun with the spectation and social aspect of it.
My friend, you just summarized the entirety of the forum.
I applaud you.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. The new champion dagger, Komalie’s Sacrificial Blade, is one of the nicest dagger skins I’ve seen in the game.
Gonna agree, saw that dagger and my Guardian was jelly
The Gauntlet have been out for little over a day.
It will be here for a MONTH.
Just because you haven’t managed to do it yet doesn’t mean it is impossible.I always wonder why people assume they should be able to beat everything released just within a few hours after release.
Kids have it so easy these days—it’s just that demand for instant gratfication. Or maybe his friend has the mini and he couldn’t get it right away. Meanwhile, said friend is farming lodestones while OP is falling from the ceiling. Actually, I hope that’s what happened because that’s hilarious.
Honestly I just get the mini myself, and it is now my most prized ingame item.
Just did it as a guardian myself, for the most part this guide is spot on For guard in particular, I recommend zerker scepter/focus with superior sigil of accuracy and air. The air sigil allows you to have a chance at extra damage when you crit.
Also, if you panic, you die but that’s the case with any class.
One tip I did not see mention is to lower all your settings to the lowest but keep sampling to native. Post processing in particular needs to be turned off, otherwise she can blur the hell out of your screen for a few seconds.
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Any content which could possibly be too hard for a majority of the player base to complete should NOT have any achievement points tied to it. A title/skin/mini or other item, sure… but not achievement points. Nor should it count for any meta achievement unless there are other choices to complete instead of it. (like how the Dragon Ball pvp achievements during dragon bash didn’t count for the meta)
It absolutely should.
That is what an achievement is.
Honestly? I’d say because that sylvari, who I assume is Scarlet, orders them to for her own amusement. She doesn’t care about them.
She seems to have a rather disturbed love of playing with her foes. Kind of like the Nightmare Court.
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I did everything in Flame and Frost on my guard, and they do not remember me either.
I can’t be the only who thought about this right away
A commander that has time to complain about rangers is a commander not doing his or her job to lead the zerg.
Just saying
I was wonder how long it would take for someone to use my bee party in one of these threads ;P
The best part is you can see me in the second and it looks like I’m fleeing the scene.
And much fun was had
Special thanks to Aensley Fairchild for the screen shot
One man (account) – one vote.
Much less controversy.
Much more legit outcome, no matter the outcome.Now people speak of rigged election. No wonder when there were billions of tickets thrown into baskets… without farming i had over 250 of them. Now count the farmed… I don’t think i can count that high…
Do never do such thing again. LA chat went full kitten, community divided into two and we either lost the content we wanted, or were never to get it.
If you honestly think these forums would not called rigged if it was 1 vote per person, you still have far more faith in the forums then I do.
How is the community becoming divided at all a good thing?
Anyone taking it that seriously is just being childish at this point.
People here at the studio where as passionate about this as you folks, so we had both Kiel and Gnashblade supporters. I for example play a charr, so I was obviously on #TeamGnashblade.
Don’t you think it was a bit unfair though? You guys essentially designed Gnashblade to lose. Shady, stairwell Charr who “supports RNG” vs the “cute, innocent, female war hero leader” (after all she takes credit for our work).
Seems that even people who didn’t know about the bonuses would vote for Kiel. Reduced WP costs or reduced RNG box costs? Yeah Ellen’s victory is a complete shock to me. =|
For every person who felt it was in favor of Kiel, there was one who felt it was in favor of Evon. There was a pretty large thread crying about Evon favoritism in fact.
Well Anet has said they have plans to further explore the lore of that fractal down the road so we’ll have to wait and see I guess.
The message that i got ingame about kiel winning…and reading what she’s rewarding “us” with..honestly turned my stomach up side down. I am very sad.
I hope anet never pulls off stunts like this voting thing again. Gz anet u just dissapointed 48% of your voting player base..by rewarding 52% of the softcore players who can’t afford a simple teleport. I wonder how much u won from this event.
I hope they do, it really shows how childish some people in this community are.
Kiel neither did nothing, nor claimed entire credit as though she did it alone.
Agreed, I never saw Kiel as taking the credit, she was always reluctant to be in the spot light in fact.
I liked both equally myself, so I’m happy with Kiel beating Evon regardless of my support of Evon.