Guild Wars 2

lool vizunah, mesmer portals from spawn inside garison for 15 minutes.
Found your trick , you need new one now
looled at naked guys entering portal)

i recorded for you an movie how i do it . I was tiered 5 AM , and i had 0 accuracy stacks from sigil , made few mistakes but still took only 1 minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjVSD-4i2oU

personaly i facetank the camp , it takes me less then 1 minute to take 100 /100 camp
D/D build
i start with steal +backstab on first veteran scout , i do normal chain untill veteran guard and guild claimed comes near me . 3x Death blossom /dodge roll /hide in shadows-backstab again the scout. Then i do dagger storm and kill second scout . Guard will be at 20%-30% hp and guild claimer 50%

Wonderer 7 /10
the eyes are too soft for an thief/assasin
as well the body could had more muscles for that armor type
also you could replace the metal collour with abyss
Maladon 10 /10
the toon looks funny and the theme is great.
generaly i dislike asura but yours looks funny

Combine karma armor (Power /T/V ) with bersek jewel set.
Use knight or bersek helment since there is no P/T/V one and ruby orbs on armor.
valky /bers weapons.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Rayya.2591:

Anatolian Turk.4057:

seriously everywhere i go i counter SFR zerg of 40+. You guys are like ants no joke. The only reason why you guys are winning because of sheer numbers nothing more. Desolation has the best quality pvp players in EU server. When it comes down to small skirmishers (5-10 ppl), Deso wins 90% of the times. If we have half of SFR, we will be spawn camping both SFR and Viz at the same time. Until we get numbers we will lose the score but not the war.

In 5 vs 5 you will pick utility’s like
bull charge / frenzy/signet of rage for warrior
shadowstep / basilik for thief … etc
why would i use banner regeneration for warrior, why would i use hp on rally
Why would i use steal grant " might/fury and swiftnes to ally’s
why would i use Heal on dodge ?
And for real why on earth i would pick traits like increase revive speed.
symbols on guardian? (for 5 players ? ) nah
in 30 or 70 or 100 pvp , your bull charge /basilik/ signet of rage will matter 0
and “the most skilled player (in 5 vs 5)” will be another sheep on the map

Best regards,

FYI, i dont do any of that. But thanks for trying,

i just explained you the diference betwen 5 vs 5 and 30 vs 30
In the end at least our pugs are not afraid to lose 5 vs 5 , yours just join maps where iron and GH plays, cause in the end Deso got more population then SFR, and Sfr got not even 1 guild with same numbers at IRON

Anatolian Turk.4057:

seriously everywhere i go i counter SFR zerg of 40+. You guys are like ants no joke. The only reason why you guys are winning because of sheer numbers nothing more. Desolation has the best quality pvp players in EU server. When it comes down to small skirmishers (5-10 ppl), Deso wins 90% of the times. If we have half of SFR, we will be spawn camping both SFR and Viz at the same time. Until we get numbers we will lose the score but not the war.

In 5 vs 5 you will pick utility’s like
bull charge / frenzy/signet of rage for warrior
shadowstep / basilik for thief … etc
why would i use banner regeneration for warrior, why would i use hp on rally
Why would i use steal grant " might/fury and swiftnes to ally’s
why would i use Heal on dodge ?
And for real why on earth i would pick traits like increase revive speed.
symbols on guardian? (for 5 players ? ) nah
in 30 or 70 or 100 pvp , your bull charge /basilik/ signet of rage will matter 0
and “the most skilled player (in 5 vs 5)” will be another sheep on the map

Best regards,

Joao Gomes.3756:

Was changing maps when the connection to server was lost. Now I can’t log in, error: 42:6:3:2158

same lawl

I belive 30 points in critical strikes are not good for p/D, you will find it hard to stay over 6 initiative inside combat and , 20 points in shadow arts are almost an must for condition removal and inititive management (IoS). Not sure too if 30 points in acrobatics are the best, i belive 20 in critical strikes are good.
So 0/20/30/20/0 or 10/20/30/10/0 build also look good

i saw yesterday an D/P thief vs GS warrior
And the skills that aren’t countered by blind , destroy the P/D thief ( chain skils or aoe’s )
The thief got hit hard by volley and Whirlwind.

my thief, after i tested all armors ingame , i like t3 the most

Deified.7520:

Things you’d like to see in WvW?

1. i belive the major issue at this moment is
skill lag at peak, when ever 2-3 major zergs collide all players on map get stucked
Culling
private chat 2 minutes -3 delayed
For me WvWvW is unplayeble betwen 19:00 -24:00 at prime time, then i am forced to leave/ take an break or do fractals
2. i would like to see some rewards for badges, yes badges drop rate has been increased a lot , but at this moment i can only use them to buy 4 exotics and trow them intro forge.
Not necesarly ascended , i would like to see :
Some appearance items
t6 matterials
3. daily wvwvw reward (wvwvw only)

in my oppinion it comes like this:
game experience : to know your enemy’s skills and wich skill can counter other
good PC and connection
fast fingers /player’s skill
then comes gear , food , world bonuses

Blueday.6953:

EnRohbi.2187:

If the people on your server are not smart enough to figure out quickly which Commanders they should or should not follow, that is a problem with your server population.

If they ARE smart enough to know which Commanders to follow, this system is entirely superfluous.

So how smart’s your server?

I guess you’re pugs must be smarter than our pugs… I haven’t seen any difference in pug intelligence in any MMO I’ve ever played though.

Why would anybody follow you, specialy if you got same attitude in game like there.

So first you call them Pugs : Basically means a group that isn’t formed by people you know; instead, it’s formed up of random, possible noobs that will completely wreck whatever experience you are getting the group for.
Then you call them sheeps " I haven’t seen any difference in pug intelligence in any MMO I’ve ever played though"

I do not know you but i do not belive you are an good leader.

1.D/D
2.D/P
3.S/D
I belive D/D got more mobility

Ekemeister.8905:

My opinion: Anet should get a team together and have them all play thieves. This way they can experience the class first hand. They should also go incognito and join group exp runs so they can hear other players question your class choice, try to get you kicked, et merda for simply being a thief. Making game changes based on forum feedback and stat logs alone, without playing the game in its current state today is simply flawed development.

don’t even bother with groups that don’t want thieves (cause they are squishy), they usualy play with 170-200 % magic find and espect somebody to tank and Dps for them.
I’ve completed many fractals lvl 20 + with 3 thieves in group with minimal deads (0 , 1-4 downed times)
I’ve pugged a lot with my warrior and guardian, and this is the reason you should play dungeons with ppls you know.

Sinner.7139:

Currently thief is like a bad joke for PvE. Yes, we do decent DPS if specced for it, and we can (if traited) do a few extra dodges. But we have zero survivability beside dodging, stealth is useless after last patch, our main heal (crit heals) is nerfed to uselessness.

I heard some dev saying that each class should have several good builds to choose from. Well, lets start by giving thief a single good build for PvE, because right now thief is 100% redundant for PvE (as in, no role to fullfill).

Its also very hard to motivate why any group, no matter the content, would pick a thief before another class. Maybe if they know they will die a lot, and need stealth-ressses. But then, everyone can do that with spy-kits.

Basically, thief feels like a warrior, but:
- less weapons and skills
- worse healing
- lower health
- lower armor
- less support
- no tanking ability

And warriors complain? :-)

regarding thief’s healing
hide in shadows -5500 heal / 700 regeneration / cures 3 conditions , stealth 3 seconds
signet of malice – 120 hp /target, in pve considering you use shortbow with 1/4 seconds trick shot x3 targets = 120*4*3=1440/sec.
Daggeer storm over 2000 hp/sec betwen 5+targets
320 /sec stealted +regen
shadow refuge. 3-4 second 1600 heal + dark field
dark field – combined with whirl : 170/ hit = 540 /death blossom, a lot from dagger storm
dark field -combined with projectiles 200+/hit
Assasin reward -70/initiative
if you use healing power those heals increase, ofc you will lose some burst
Edit *
cluster bombs * spammable * at least 6-7 in row combined with ranger’s healing spring you will heal all party members for 1350 hp/ blast

i belive you took 5 kills ( accrding to your stacks) in 7 minutes with an 30 ppls zerg behind vs another zerg of low lvls. Even the ones you took were running from your zerg , nobody fought back

Gab Superstar.4059:

Lag is not an issue. I have an account on both EU and NA, and I don’t notice any difference at all in combat.

Lag is no issue for you
i have 50-70 lattency on EU and 350-390 in US
So do not generailize your situation, if i will have to play with 390 latency i will 100% avoid WvWvW. And i am not the only 1 with huge latency on US and decent on EU

Leorcyn.1063:

Rayya.2591:

Leorcyn.1063:

Oh god, still laughing about this one : http://tof.canardpc.com/view/626af640-f4b7-40da-9953-9ebe6b54f24f.jpg

11 catas, 2 zergs … 2 times … for no other result than humiliation and public shame

320 /1 kills /deaths ratio for my wvwvw today
THx vizunah, i am really ashamed

I’m glad you’re feeling good about yourself.
I do hope those impressive stats will get you a nice title in the next patch. Untill then, it’s just words !
And, unless you were part of that action, I wasn’t referring to you ; and even if you were … you know how it is on the forums, just trying to poke the beast. You do whatever you want, it’s fine, nobody owes anything to anyone

thx my Fr Bro.
i was part of the action, and the dead was at first attack , at second i survived:)
kills were from Bay, if you were part of the action, you would know

Leorcyn.1063:

Oh god, still laughing about this one : http://tof.canardpc.com/view/626af640-f4b7-40da-9953-9ebe6b54f24f.jpg

11 catas, 2 zergs … 2 times … for no other result than humiliation and public shame

320 /1 kills /deaths ratio for my wvwvw today
THx vizunah, i am really ashamed

Audio is used maybe by 10% of players in wvwvw. Majority use music or teamspeak

Amshaa.7492:

WvWvW’s joy :

When SFR tried to reach T1…
“http://www.topito.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Gif-9.gif”

When Sacrx will eventually get to T1 and set up his Operation Pesticide…
“http://i.imgur.com/9zsLQ.gif”

;)

imo you should delete your post)

Columba.9730:

Narcissus.1058:

No, the primary mechanic of thief is stealth, the primary mechanic of ranger is not dps

No it isn’t stealth. Stealth was meant to be a secondary attribute. All the chicken little behavior claiming that ANY change to stealth ruins the class is just melodrama. What is the primary mechanic of rangers? Lol.

rangers have good acces to stability, protection , regeneration , invulnerability vs psihical damage
Double knockback (weapon skill +pet). They can CC a lot and counter CC.

thieves got – no direct acces to stability/protection/ invulnerability . poor acces to regeneration
They can stun you for 1.5 seconds ?(With elite)
They got stealth only

Jeknar.6184:

Zen.8497:

Best solution is to have WvW and PvE separate servers.

Or remove all WvW requeriments for PvE stuff…

this will increase numbers for 2 hours at peaks maybe, and will only increase queue on high tiers. An guy who likes to play wvw or find it funny , will have no problem to pve for few days, in order to be competitive.
I played few weeks against Fr servers ,most of the times on theyr own borderland, and they got always underlvled guys on wvwvw. Even at 3-4 am you see 20 guys with green arrow near the name, so if somebody enjoy the wvwvw they will go there from lvl 1 in white armors.

i belive march update will drag lot more ppls in wvwvw

GrandmaFunk.3052:

A simpler solution that’s more fair to everyone would be for points per tick to be worth progressively less for continuous control.

Ex: you take a tower, during the first hour each tick gives you 10 points. If you still hold it then the next hour each tick only gives you 8 points. 3rd hour ticks give 5, after 4 hours of uninterrupted control the tower no longer gives points.

This means you don’t keep earning points during empty periods yet no timezone is penalized.

That is not an solution
you need few hours to upgrade an keep /tower to full
That way you could let it undefended and wait with 100 ppls behind tower to take it back after 5 minutes you lose it

i disagree with ideea:
reasons:
clan X- EU, clan Y- Asia , clan Z- US decide to leave from tier 1 same server to tier 8 same server.
That means : 1 server from tier 1 will not be competitive for 2-3 weeks, messing up the entire match.
1 server from tier 8 will hold 600 points day /night (24/7) for 1 month untill they reach tier 7 and kill the wvwvw from other 2 servers in tier 8. Clan M, N, H see that and decide to join the winning side and earn some free gems.
When server reach tier 5 , the loser clans from tier 1/2 decide to join that server for free.
ppls who create new account select home rank 1 server : transfer to tier 8 -they start with 50 gold

Omnomberry’s are still viable
with an 2 seconds int cooldown you get 325x 15 = 4500 extra hp every 30 seconds
considering that guardian heals with virtue of resolve arround 2700 hp /30 sec
and warrior with healing signet -6000 hp

Fixed a bug that caused loot chests to spawn incorrectly during group play. Loot chests are now created for items of rarity “rare” and above.

Happened to me 2minutes ago
Location : Godslore supply camp wvwvw -blue borderland, i attacked supply camp
Monster: some centaur attacking camp
Chest : wooden chest
Loot : 2 hooves (trohpy -common rarity)

vespers.1759:

Art.9820:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

Fact: Every person who comments ‘QQ moar’ and ‘L2P’ have Thief mains and don’t want their precious OPness nerfed away from them.

It’s more entertaining when you have to try, y’know.

Fact: Every person who complains about Thief being OP thinks WvW is about 1v1 fights….

i raise you this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7OYniHrGqE

how will you respond?

Q1 : did he capped anything ?
Q2: did he stoped the guys to cap something ?
Q3: it had any importance for his team the fact that he was there ?
Q4: did he killed any guardian/warrior / mesmer /elementarist / eng/ ranger /necro lvl 80 with double food buff ?
Q5 : did he killed only low lvls and other thieves ?
And finaly the most important question :
Q6 : would you like 50 thieves like him on an borderland vs enemy zergs ?
How will you respond?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/February-Issues-with-character-art-weapons-or-armor/page/3#post1517560

Cloak and Dagger: The player can no longer use this ability stack stealth by attacking WvW walls.
is not fixed , i don’t even trigger combat mode
screenshot attached

Daecollo.9578:

Rayya.2591:

Oglaf.1074:

maddoctor.2738:

Oglaf.1074:

maddoctor.2738:

Maybe those zerker warriors will finally “lose” some of their OPness now. Nerfing them without nerfing their skills, nice job.

Yeah a blanket nerf across the board which nerfs all Professions in order to combat one overpowered build for one Profession.

That’s some NASA-grade rocket science right there!

So you don’t believe that the buff from the pies was kinda overpowered?

It was a necessary evil to allow any Profession that doesn’t have the amazing sustain of Guardian to melee in dungeons.

it was cool for warrior, it was lool for thieves.
Combined with signet of malice i could get from 500 hp to 17k in less that 3 seconds using dagger storm, betwen 15 dredges on lvl 20 fractals

Dagger Storm has a 90 second cool-down.

that does not change the fact that i could do that

Oglaf.1074:

maddoctor.2738:

Oglaf.1074:

maddoctor.2738:

Maybe those zerker warriors will finally “lose” some of their OPness now. Nerfing them without nerfing their skills, nice job.

Yeah a blanket nerf across the board which nerfs all Professions in order to combat one overpowered build for one Profession.

That’s some NASA-grade rocket science right there!

So you don’t believe that the buff from the pies was kinda overpowered?

It was a necessary evil to allow any Profession that doesn’t have the amazing sustain of Guardian to melee in dungeons.

it was cool for warrior, it was lool for thieves.
Combined with signet of malice i could get from 500 hp to 17k in less that 3 seconds using dagger storm, betwen 15 dredges on lvl 20 fractals

Dual.8953:

General

Using stealth no longer resets NPC aggression tables.

Thief

Cloak and Dagger: The player can no longer use this ability stack stealth by attacking WvW walls.

finaly

the food nerf affect thief less then other classes
even if i used omnombery ghosts all the time, our aoe was very limtied compared to other classes

Levistis.8356:

Quick, sell the pies!

i actualy bought a lot yesterday ><

i would troll them to death.I would spec 100% against thieves and start troll them
Any clas got an specific build to troll thieves

killimandros.5087:

As a thief, if they /Anet) cant fix the culling, numbers of people stealthed/abuse of stealth, id rather see it being removed. Yes. Instead add camouflage maybe, or add tricks to the tief class like hard to catch. Making them more evasive, faster and increase range of pistol. Give them some symbols maybe? I dont know, fact is, it doesnt work, like it is right now. It just doesnt work.

is thief, not ninja
thief = stealthed
detected thief = dead
works as intended

is thief still an issue in wvwvw ?
for real now, with all those aoe stuns /knockback /heals, do you belive stealth is an issue ?
And most roaming groups are formed by classes with group utility’s and crowd control, not by thieves.

thief is good, is just not easy
many ppls reject thieves from dungeons, many ppls refuse to take me in fractal partyes, cause i am an thief, however i managed to finish lvl 10 under 40 minutes( 4 stages ) with 3 thieves in same party .And i usualy do 20 with another thief, we use signet of malice , lifesteal food/we time shadow refuge for dark fields and sometimes we drag the party, with an balanced /tanky build.

ppls use valk to don’t get 1 shoted or to avoid to die by random aoe
let’s be honest, full bers has 11000 hp and 1900 defence. Is glass cannon that can die from 1 random backstab /whirlwind … etc
Full glass cannons use the extra 20% damage under 50% hp .
Nowdays most of ppls run with an stunbreaker , so as full glas cannon you will die a lot unless you are experienced

XII.9401:

Simple fixes:

1.Any damage to a stealthed opponents: reveals the stealthed person..just like every other mmorpg that was, is and ever will be.

2.Any action performed during stealth breaks it.

3. Stealthing of any sort should cause initiative usage. Enough to prevent restealthing over and over. This isn’t thief wars or hide-and-go-seek.

Or

Introduce cooldowns on stealth in general..no need to stealth 4 times in a fight instantly with only one stealth ability using initiative..dagger off hand thief: can spec into stealth upon stealing, can stealth when healing, can group stealth and can dagger 5 to stealth. Only dagger 5 in this situation uses initiative..and it can be used twice in a row.. kinda silly, really..

4.Bow 5 and sword 2 -and its equivalent- should have high initiate usage with a short range for sword 2 maximum 1200 range. Its time that the thief class should stay and pay the price if it messes up like every other class – eles excluded..their escapes are just too silly as well if anyone ran into a half decent ele -

Or simply..introduce cooldowns on the abilities like Aaaaaall the other classes in the game?

There are -presumably- more than two people doing the balancing as eluded to previously. SEVEN months have passed with the most pressing class imbalance being thieves as noted by 64k reads to this thread and 60+ pages of replies and still nothing has been done.

We’ve reached a point of heavy customer dissatisfaction and the slow reaction to balancing the thief is an indicative of things to come, unfortunately. The players patience is not infinite and with new MMOs looming in the horizon, time is running short.

backstab
sneak attack
surpise shot
all are attacks from stealth – so if an Pro kid spam aoe/autoattacks near him i will never be able to backstab him cause damage break stealth.
i like your ideea
you should add: thief clas will be /deleted

roostapro.9827:

As a D/D ele myself, this thread is an obvious L2P issue.

Get confusion? Cleanse or don’t attack and kite.

Again, more of a l2p issue and no discipline with OP while vsing a Mesmer.

You cannot compare D/D ele condition removal with warriors condition removal.

well is up to you, if you are going to change that armor set, you will need better skins also.
personaly i like the most :
seraph daggers- small size
mystic spike – medium size
corrupted shard – the almost the size of an sword

Shrilly.7184:

Rayya.2591:

vespers.1759:

you mean you don’t think this is balanced? HOW DARE YOU?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7OYniHrGqE

An thief killing other thieves and low lvls.
Hi , do i miss any point ?
did he even atempted to kill an lvl 80 guardian /elementarist /engenier /warrior /necro /mesmer … with double food buff, like he used ?
would he even had an chance?
How dare you

get off my thrwead unless you are going to see other evidence

I am sorry that not everybody share same point with you.
And please stay on topic, is related to thieves issues.
Stealth is an defence mechanism

just as an add to OP post:
Shadow refuge is an dark field :
will provide 170 lifesteal / whirl (DB / dagger storm) /target
Lifesteal /projectiles (pistol /shortbow)

leave your pistols at home, they are the bottom weapons for wvw, specialy if you are low lvl .
Use shortbow, follow the zerg, unlock survaivability utility’s first , do as many events as you can ( supply camps /assault/quagans) but specialy defence. On top of the wall you are safe, and you can get some kills.

I am not an team player, i did not joined an guild, i do not use team speak , i go afk every 15-30 minutes, i play half afk.
I play single player an MMO…
Thief is perfect for me, specialy in wvwvw.