Honestly I would prefer titles for how many objectives (in REAL WvW) I have captured and/or defended. At least these would have “some” (albeit low) meaning. The ultimate dominater was, at one time, my goal, but with the kill swapping that went on I won’t wear it when I get it.
EotM has ruined any form of rank title system for me now, which is sad because I used to be proud of my rank.
My 2 cents, although others have some great ideas in this thread, and for some reason it, like a zombie, doesn’t want to die (BRAINS).
Axe 1: make it either 900 range and increase it’s damage by 20% or keep the range and increase the damage by 50% (keep the vuln).
Axe 2: is currently not bad, but I would not complain with a small boost to damage.
Axe 3: (PvE) Replace the retal for vigor (2s) duration per enemy hit up to 5. Also adding a blast finisher (replace the cripple if need be) might make me want to use the weapon over a dagger.
I will add that I would like it if the retal was calculated differently as was suggested. As it is now the PvE critters attack to slowly. Even in WvW it is not worth taking the weapon over dagger, even when against a rapid fire long bow ranger when you can get it to proc that is.
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Reflects would be another whole can of worms, and honestly I will be happy with just one block (on reaper) at this point. This in itself shows me that at least one dev is not as rigid to the “necro ruleset” as they once were; this gives me hope!
Cmon guys, obviously Zoso is better than every single Necromancer here combined. Necro isn’t bad its just all a l2p issue, Peters was right Necro is so hard to play its taken us 3 years and we still haven’t figured it out.
they nerfed chill for all classes and put an icd on a trait that deserved an icd?
increasing the cooldown on gs is something i don’t understand but it’s still beta so i’m sure robert will listen to feedback.
So far they’ve done the exact opposite of listen to our feedback when it comes to reaper.
Well in that case I want greatsword to not have a faster attack speed, nor do I want it to have much better life force generation. While we are at it could you nerf us even harder as I feel we are the top class in PvE and everyone demands every party have at least one of us for dungeons. Please keep our only wanted utility to be as a WvW well bomber because who doesn’t want to be pigeon holed into a single role.
And for kitten sake make everyone of the new shouts have not only a longer casting time, but make the recharge much much longer.
Great sword looks cool as in concept, but I will be using dagger with either focus or war horn for the lf gen switching to a staff as a secondary (higher damage in RS) and range. The 5 target cleave means nothing to me on a SLOW AS KITTEN weapon so I will just build LF quickly, switch and spend my time cleaving in RS. But at least I save the time making an ascended GS.
Very bland in flavor, needs water (fields) to make them palatable and generally just sit on the shelf (select screen) being looked at but never eaten (played).
And one more: Even when you have cheese they are still the last chosen option.
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The only time that works is when you are using them to preform the same skill I.e. using shroud skills. Shroud skills used with a GS will do more damage than shroud skills used with a dagger+offhand.
Seeing as I will try to spend 90% of my time in RS this is the only thing that really matters for a shroud camper like myself. I can honestly see me only leaving shroud to do a 4/5 combo on the GS just to group things up and get a bit of LF. I should mention that I only plan on using my reaper in PvE simply because IMO the changes still don’t make it a viable option for PvP or WvW but I look forward to be proven wrong.
I love corrupter’s fervor. 300 toughness and 20% reduced incoming condition damage from one trait. It’s very easy to stack.
Me too. This was a very nice surprise to my build and I’m happy they added it. I also use deadly strength to give me more power so I have no problem with it.
My only problem with the line is soul comprehension, it just plain sucks. I would much prefer to see a straight percentage increase to all LG generation in it’s stead. I am only stuck with it due to wanting the higher up major and grandmaster.
Use gold to buy everything you want. I have all nodes in my home, many skins and I bought them all with gold off the TP. If I was to try and calculate the amount of keys I would need to just get the items I bought, the 0’s alone would easily fill this post.
I also do gems to gold occasionally, but only when items that make the TP go nuts (wings) come out. I then wait about a week and get my gems back; last time with a nice 200 gold bonus off 5k gems. Generally though I never gamble and even the keys I have gotten from map completion and/or drops have never given me anything of real value.
Anytime I make a build I ask myself if X is worth taking over Y in this build. And even though I may someday make a chill based build for the reaper, I can tell you that plague sending is a much better choice here. Even terrifying descent has uses outside the box (jumping down on enemies perched on a cliff in WvW) , but with the 5 second cooldown added to chilling darkness I would now choose plague sending every time.
As in real life “Let the Buyer Beware” is a very good moto to live by. As others have said be glad it wasn’t with real $$$; the market can be a cruel mistress.
Definitely go with plague for anything more than a small group (3+ players). Problem with Lich besides it being a “I’m here come kill me” neon sign, is that in this meta, reflects are everywhere. I’ve seen so many Lich die to their own 1 spam because it’s hard to see and discern enemy reflection from friendly.
Also WvW is a fluid environment, and Lich lacks mobility, escapes, and heck it doesn’t even have Dark Path. Often you’ll find yourself popping it and wasting it because your group is moving back or dodging bombs, and there goes your “elite” ability. Not to mention Deathly Claws can be avoided by simply side strafing or people moving, so the only way to use it effectively is to be on top of someone. And if you are on top of someone, you can better control them by being in deathshroud or even your normal form with your dagger.
Plague on the other hand, can save your life so you can live and bomb another day. A dead necro is kitteneless necro. Power wellmancers bomb hard enough without Lich that you should always focus on survival and staying alive, this way you can contribute the best to your guild/zerg/group. Plague will save your life, giving you room for error should you get out of position, or get focused. And it’ll allow you to get through a hot choke point when making pushes.
Oh please take away my ability to get 10 silver for free (4 silver and change over an ascended ring btw)!
Honestly lighten up, if it was unsellable I could see your angst, but you can sell it.. hell get 10 of them and sell em for a cool 1 gold. Also as far as we know these spoons were added to the treasure table and did not replace anything so just enjoy your free 10 silver.
thats what i want to see here like any other mmorpg i play as full tanker
so 10 players hit you and you just laugh ad them and they cant kill you that is what a tanker( build ) must be
on the down side i cant kill them but its very good for a commander he don’t need to fight he just give orders
Actually this is not balance. When you can take on 10 players as a single player that would tilt the pendulum far to far in the other direction. It is only natural in this game to be slaughtered when outnumbered, as there is no true trinity, so being a tank should only allot you a few extra seconds here.
If you are having problems with conditions I would suggest sigils of purity. I myself use sigils of generosity and condi’s never bother me anymore. If you want to rely on only condi clears (some classes have less access than others), then you may have to give up those sigils of fire, lightning, strength etc. OR just carry another weapon set with the aforementioned sigils, conditions are only really a problem for players who refuse to adapt.
Edit: kitten a few minutes late to reply, kitten my slow typing.
I may be well out of line here, but is not balance (a state of equilibrium) the ability to defend against pure DPS with pure defense?
If so then a player running toughness/vitality/healing should offset a player running power/precison/crit damage (condi damage being a wildcard that could use it’s own counter IMO). If in a 1 on 1 arena where a pure damage dealer is able to down and kill (quickly I might add) a pure defensive player, we have no balance.
As for solutions I’m all for some of your suggestions, although giving players more health doesn’t seem to work out to well for the necros but IMO it is up to ANet to be the final arbitrator on the matter. The facts are clear though, as the game sits we have no balance per say, hence the meta is always to carry the biggest gun to the knife fight.
I used to use it on a choke point in WvW to chill and blind enemies while in plague (2). Now that they have plague sending though, along with the nerf I cannot ever see myself taking it. They may as well remove it at this point and just give us a new adept.
Go with a necro, you can’t get more second class that that.
Seriously though stick with ele, if you are already dexterous enough to play an engy, ele should be right up your alley. The ability to mitigate damage will come to you over time along with the timing for switching.
If you PUG dungeons, necrophilia might not be the choice if you want to do meta runs as a lot of meta groups will kick necro for various reasons.
That was my point. In the second paragraph I suggested he stick with an ele. I guess as people say sarcasm doesn’t transfer over the text very well. Feel free to insert a /s after the necro comment.
I did not say to remove all the PvE elements. What I was saying is that many players that I have talked to, would prefer it if it was kept to the objectives such as you mentioned.
Whereas other events such as scarlet were not ever brought into WvW again. Sorry if this was unclear.
Go with a necro, you can’t get more second class that that.
Seriously though stick with ele, if you are already dexterous enough to play an engy, ele should be right up your alley. The ability to mitigate damage will come to you over time along with the timing for switching.
ANet wants WvW to be PvE with added (minor) PvP side effect that makes the player want to move on to play PvP (yay e-sports).
The players there want WvW to be PvP with a VERY minor (lords etc) PvE effect and many could care less about moving on to PvP.
So long as the devs and the players are on separate sides of this we will sadly be forced to do things their way as we have no control over their decisions.
Full nomad would do ya there, but no guild would want you. Sustain is all well and good, but as a backliner you want a good burst with wells. I find a happy medium myself.
But, seriously, I enjoyed the golem fun and extra fast rank progression from the ktrain. It was a nice break from the ‘seriousness’ of WvW.
Can’t wait to get back to that seriousness though… so yay for reset!!
Herein lies one of the issues people have with the current state of WvW and events like this one.
I enjoyed the golem fun and extra fast rank progression
This is by no means calling you out seabhac but from a purist point of view ranks shouldn’t be based or gained by gimmicks or boosts. They should be based on effort and not time or a grind. Effort by doing something rather than just following a train around or using the exploit.
Taking a step back it sort of demeans the whole rank and file structure – just like having ranks gained by boosts with EoTM map…just my personal opinion for what it is worth. I also noticed you said time to get back to seriousness so of course take what I say just as my opinion.
And that is another problem with the current K-Train atmosphere.
At one time if you were a gold rank, people assumed you spent most of your time playing in WvW helping out your server and generally playing WvW as a team player. Sure you probably k-trained a bit, but mostly just played WvW as IMO it was intended.
Now you could be platinum, and everyone just assumes you spend your time in EotM, or if you include this week, regular WvW with the buff. Honestly there is really no distinction anymore, and I don’t think that is a good thing!
At this point IMO even a formal protest won’t make them want to work on us without a few dozen devs actually playing the class.
It is worth a try at least. I’m tired of reading a lot of valuable feedbacks and suggestions completely ignored or flushed down the toilet for years.
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Nothing new there, I have a post in my history going back 2 years when they made greater marks a master trait that says they don’t listen to us. And although it is now baseline and a minor (unblockable) it took them 2 years, a large amount of power creep and a trait line change before they did anything with it.
At this rate they may start listening to those that play the class at about the same time as I drop dead.
Annnnnnnnnnd now I agree they dump on our shouts. They deal more damage with shorter cast times (when they even have one), lots of cool effects (though I think some of our shouts are cool in concept). And some of their utility is just absolutely insane, an AoE stunbreak on 10s ICD, what the actual kitten.
I found it quite surprising that Karl also works on thief just like Robert also works on mesmer. Nothing is final yet and I’m pretty sure there will be a beta for specializations just for HoT they’ll try to not make it suck. Again they don’t see the game like we do.
Afaik they all work on all of them. Just some are representatives of certain classes because of various reasons.
So basically, if all you play are other classes, you don’t give a kitten about the necro, and in all honesty you would prefer they be free kills, got ya.
The wait would not bother me so much if they were to just recycle some content for us to play in the interim. I am quite bored currently having made 3 alts and leveled them and gotten map completion on them all.
I realize that they are introducing new systems, but for the love of all that is holy could we not even get pinatas back!
Both of the TC guilds I do WvW with did other things this week, I never felt the need to k-train and that is what this week was. Gonna be good to see it end!
LMFAO, i hope ALL of you Necros out there who thought we would be fine and that Ele shouts would not be better than ours since ours are more offensive finally take their heads out of their kitten and wake up. Anet does not give a kitten about Necros and will always buff others before us, so the time to be nice and cordial is long over; Eles cried for their traits to be changed and for IB not to be nerfed and they won. we need to get together and do the same. Anet now only operates in crisis mode; unless there is a crisis Anet does not give a kitten. look at the Commander tag issue, the gem store gold conversion issue, unless people kitten and kitten loudly Anet won’t do kitten!!!!!
Or we can do what they apparently want us to do and just play another class; or find another game. The changes to blood magic moved us (closer?) toward an attrition class, but with everything else getting the power creep treatment it might have been enough at one time, but not anymore. I’m gonna do what I have been doing for almost the last 3 years and ONLY use my necro for zerging in WvW and another class for everything else. At this point IMO even a formal protest won’t make them want to work on us without a few dozen devs actually playing the class.
I’m thinking the same thing, 2 months (optimistically). The way things are moving as slow as they are makes me think it may be closer to November/December release. Depending on what filler week(s) they throw in.
Speaking for myself it will recover, although I won’t want to see another another golem without having shivers.
My faith in new “event” weeks will be forever tainted though, and when/if they announce another one I will be VERY leery of what might have been broken this time.
I honestly didn’t know this was a thing, but now that you mention it I have seen a few warriors just shrug off my fears. +1, this in itself is a well needed QOL they could implement tomorrow and it would not even need a discussion IMO.
The big thing I am noticing is everyone really liking the idea, but thinking Arenanet will never do an AMA. What if we got r/Guildwars2 mods involved, as seeing if they could request an AMA or maybe see if Arenanet would do a Q & A with some important members of the Necro community/Guild Wars 2 community (Maybe Pro player or dungeon speed runners). Maybe I do not really understand how difficult setting something like this up would be, but there seems to be a couple of relatively easy ways for Arenanet to get their vision for necros across to the community while addressing our concerns.
If you watch any of the live streams it becomes quite clear what the problem with this request is. When announcing the other classes they have proponents for each and every one of the other classes, hence they get “air time” to discuss the changes be they good or bad leading to pros and cons; you know actual feedback. However, when you watch them as they discuss the necro, it is generally with a static, droning demeanor best described as someone explaining what they had for breakfast that morning. What we need is developer that will champion our cause when they discuss the class.
Robert Gee may be able to help us as he did with the blood magic line, but sadly I feel his true love is the mesmer at this point. In short, setting up an AMA would need us to first have developers take us seriously with regard to (what is unquestionably) our faults.
I like the idea. And to show balance I would suggest they be on the same timer. Hence you could use f1 and regular shroud for dark path, but not be immediately able to f2 and deaths charge. You would have to leave shroud to enable the skill set on reapers shroud.
You would still have to spec into reaper in order to get the second shroud ability, but IMO it would greatly increase our situational utility.
Going to use mine as a farming machine in PvE; pun intended. Other than that I cannot see us being useful in most other game modes. I am sure there are some builds that might be good in WvW or PvP, but honestly any class than can kite us will always win.
Not going to happen (but I wish it would too). The last time a dev graced us with their presence was a fluff post about why they fixed the axe animation. If you look at their track record, serious discussion about balance, traits, utilities etc. will never be gifted to the lowly players of the (this) class. Almost three years now and all we have is the hope that the next patch won’t kitten us over any worse than the one before it did.
With all the screw ups in the Golem Rush event why would I ever want Anet to implement another special WvW event? What bugs and exploits will the next event bring? Own up and fix your current problems instead of looking to make more.
This is a very good point too. If they release an event that bugs out the first day, but don’t even want to fix it (like none of us have been kicked to LA on reset?) then maybe it is best to just not bother with them!
I play PVE because I enjoy it. Everyone’s definition of “fun” is different, if you have more fun in pvp/wvw then play there:)
Unfortunately, we can’t. Anet has turned WvW into PvE for the week, and it sadly looks like they plan on making WvW permanent PvE Ktrain with the new maps in the expansion.
Here’s a question: How would PvE players feel if PvE land suddenly became PvP-able? If people could just run around and kill you while you’re simply trying to do whatever makes you happy. Now realize that that is exactly how every single WvW player feels right now.
Its really hard to take a claim that you know the feelings of every single person who plays wvw. Claiming to speak for everyone in a given community gives the impression that your own ego interferes with your judgement to the point that your entire position is readily dismissed.
Although he is generalizing in his post, I too am quite upset at the way this week has turned out for the (diminishing) fighting guilds in WvW. This event was most likely a big hit for the PvE crowd (no numbers though), but IMO those of us that enjoyed WvW without the k-train aspect feel like we are being tossed aside in lieu of their golden children.
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