Guild Wars 2

Yes I do the same no amulet with my engineer warrior and thief. I would say its really easy with the warrior. Sometimes I when I want a small challenge don’t even use weapons just the kick utility.

I would give back the spectral wall fear in a second for corrupt boon back the way it was.

Its turned out to be a larger nerf then I had expected, that skill lived on my bar. My real worry is Anet nerfs some of the buffs given necros while the leave corrupt boon in its nerfed state.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Xom.9264:

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Alright, I’m done fighting these people. I talked to Xom ingame and got my answer. These builds work if you give them a try, if you need help learning them or have questions about them, talk to me ingame or PM.

That’s all I have left to say here.

I want to let everyone know for a the longest time I thought this fellow was a epic level troll pulling one over on all of us. Well he did send me in game, I can confirm 100% he firmly believes what he posts and much more with no middle ground.

So he is not a troll after all, kind of a shocker for me, he is trying to help.

@MightyAltroll take a few weeks and get to the leader boards its not hard even a terrible necro running a bad spec that does not even know the class like me did it without actually trying to do it. You might gain some perspective and I think it would serve you well in your effort to help the necro community.

No. I don’t care about Leaderboards. No one should. I serve the Necro community fine as is, I have aided many players to becoming proficient, some even becoming incredibly good, which go on to teach more Necromancers in my school themselves. I simply was asked to post my more viable builds on the forums by people that liked them.

You post on these forums more then anyone I have seen dont play the reluctant hero asked to share his wisdom.

Great players take no credit
Credit is given to them.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Alright, I’m done fighting these people. I talked to Xom ingame and got my answer. These builds work if you give them a try, if you need help learning them or have questions about them, talk to me ingame or PM.

That’s all I have left to say here.

I want to let everyone know for a the longest time I thought this fellow was a epic level troll pulling one over on all of us. Well he did send me in game, I can confirm 100% he firmly believes what he posts and much more with no middle ground.

So he is not a troll after all, kind of a shocker for me, he is trying to help.

@MightyAltroll take a few weeks and get to the leader boards its not hard even a terrible necro running a bad spec that does not even know the class like me did it without actually trying to do it. You might gain some perspective and I think it would serve you well in your effort to help the necro community.

The main issue I think you have Mighty is you dont take into consideration team gameplay when you make builds. Sure a build might be good however if there is a class that fills that role better in Tpvp thats the class that gets the slot. Good necros understand other classes and their job in teams so when a good necro makes a build they will build to fill a spot in the group that other classes can not do better, this limits options a great deal its does for all classes.

Zerker guardians for example are fine and fun, but there are other classes that fill the role better.

Regarding Minions they can work great on close point however when you reach the highest rated teams limitations will show. You dont know this because you have not played the game at that level its also the reason why alot of your statements are considered jokes by some necros here. Its another game when you start fighting the best players instead of just average players.

Call the builds what they are, casual builds that do fine in spvp and very low level tpvp. Nothing wrong with running non-optimal builds I do it alot for fun and a change, I just dont fool myself into thinking they are top notch builds.

Adobo’s strat of using staff is solid. You can build for power or more conditions or both, whatever you chose make sure you have decent toughness. This is actually a base point for many of my WvW builds faster staff recharge is useful. In a large Spvp server with 8 v 8 its gets zergy at times laying down marks all over in the chaos works.

Otherwise I highly recommend conditions minions for a solid spvp build.

I dont know why people think minions are not viable with a group of wvw players that never do tpvp I ran a pure minion condition build got to around 300 rating beating some really beast teams and players that live tpvp. Are there better options for close point holder? Yes…. however playing a class you know like the back of your hand will always end in better results then rolling fotm this becomes evident when you start beating people in 1 v 1s that they should win.

Ignore the mighty troll.

Yes a high skill level guards with that kind of build is deadly, the pressure is insane the corrupt boon nerf really hurt this match up and the new spectral wall just does not work vs good players. Give the old corrupt boon back Ill give up the new spectral wall fear without a second thought for a non-nerfed corrupt boon

Toughness might be a little on the low side, for WvW depends on how you play I need to stack toughness because i charge into zergs too much…

Good balanced stats, if you do find you need some toughness drop the crit chance a little to boost toughness, keep the crit damage high.

I have been neglecting this thread I should be posting immediately after anyone posts, if I was doing a proper job it would be 5 pages by now.

@Ascii, 30.30.30.30.30 is a glass cannon build I know this because of extensive testing and theory crafting on the best character build sites.

p.s. some great sarcastic/deadpan comments necros, fun reading

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

F) I shouldn’t have to, but as I have said, if you want to learn Necro, I’ll gladly teach you.

I agree if the community and all the necros here in top 1000 ratings just need to learn to play. I think its great you are willing to take time out of your forum trolling to teach the community.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

If they think Necro cannot burst or bunker effectively, but I have done it before, and I know people that bunker/burst effectively. Then they must be wrong, no?

Then let them post about their exploits, you are a tiresome troll.

Must people post about every kills the get, or how bad they think individuals on each server is.

This is why servers have fight night, you will find good players there from all three servers.

That said perhaps fightnight should be moved up a day considering thrusday will be the 4th.

You still have terror it just adds burning…. you also get 30 to 50 % duration on terror depending on how you rune…. without using a trait. The duration of 30% works on all conditions, so why you comment that terror is better then burning I have no idea when the whole point of the build is getting both…..

Anyway done arguing continue to go along your merry way of not truly mastering a class because you fear playing anything not full bunker.

p.s. you can run spectral wall spectral armor and spectral walk if you fear not being tanky.

Its great seeing new guild tags in the open field fighting.

Matches were getting boring, seemed like we knew every player in each guild that liked open field fights the last few weeks, its nice fighting new people.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Xom.9264:

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Do you think me so bad that I couldn’t have thought of a 30/30/10 Rabid build when they announced Dhuumfire?

Well its a build with a higher skill cap however it a performer if you can play the class.

For beginners it might not be the best choice.

No it isn’t. It’s a typical glass cannon build, I’ve already addressed Dhuumfire as being extremely useful for hybrid builds, and I have made successful ones for it.

Glass cannon? You care to play the numbers game with me?

Gear is rabid thats a given. So lets start with 0.30.20.0.20 typical build. Runes of choice I tend to go nightmare toughness is a solid 1760 with condi damage of 1406 and condi duration of +10%.

Now the 30.30.10.0.0 say I go with nightmare toughness drops to 1660, but I dont use nightmare for this build because you already have a 30% condi duration build in, Runes of undead so 1710 toughness with 1492 condi damage. You get burning and still have terror along with 30% condition duration. I still run Spectral wall and walk sometimes with corrupt boon sometimes with spectral armor.

Really dont understand where you are getting this glass cannon opinion from….

Anyway Im sure you will have a response, you dont like the build for whatever reason. I did not like it before the patch, now I like it….burning is useful.

A fun build for dagger is wells the cooldown change to some wells was a solid boost.

The spectral buff gave a very nice buff to the power DS lifeforce build, moving Axe to master level opened some options for the fans for axe.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Do you think me so bad that I couldn’t have thought of a 30/30/10 Rabid build when they announced Dhuumfire?

Well its a build with a higher skill cap however it a performer if you can play the class.

For beginners it might not be the best choice.

lol holy ego batman

Anyway Ascii is correct 30/30/10 is solid, all the good condition build just got a little better the builds did not change a ton other then a few power builds. 0/30/20/0/20 , 0/30/10/0/30, 30/30/10/0/0, etc are all still where its at for conditions for the most part.

Sinester.3572:

I have one thing to say for SOME of ET u guys are using the glitch to get inside the doors all day long dont start doing that that dont lower ur standarts. And yes i did kill both of them :P

That guild does not exploit they are solid good people, you did not sweep, or it was a random case of GW2 programing fail. I have found myself on the other side of a door getting rammed that I was meleeing with daggers once. I think multiple people have had this happen it not repeatable and not an exploit. Once on the other side you are in combat you can try to run up the stairs and jump off the wall likely dying in the attempt or just fight the Champ lord likely dying in the attempt

Debate the fight or run up the stairs and jump off the wall options if you like.

/shrug

I’m not saying the patch notes are real….. but they’re real!

Wicked Rin.1972:

I logged in a few times and played a few minutes before i eventually get disconnected whenever I use a waypoint… Sometimes login is successful, but after 3 login and 3 waypoints, I cannot even reach the character login screen anymore.

Yes getting the same.

I dont know if this will help anyone, but its not a network issue persay, because the game runs fine with no lag or disconnects on my older rig running XP. Only have these new issues on my Win 7 rig that has ran the game perfectly until this point.

Im sure the community must come up with the fix for this one like it did for the error downloading GW2 patches a few months back for some people using win 7. Anet will just blame your network or computer offering no real help, not even a clue as to what they changed so you can troubleshoot faster. Its annoying, really annoying when I know its something they did just like the last time because my old rig on the same network has none of these issues.

Meglobob.8620:

This is how popular PvP is:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/1K-gem-card-giveaway

Giving away free stuff, 0 replies!

Balancing the game around the part of the game fewest people play is just crazy…

While I agree to some extent, to be fair the person that posted that thread is perhaps the most disliked player in the game at least on the PvP side, also… a like on facebook to be entered? lol NO, PvP folks have self respect, also PvPers dont need gems.

Same issue, just started happening this weekend. I already tried everything I can think of on my end, no new hardware of software changes has been made this issue started with the ‘fixes’ Anet did a day or two ago.

Yes this just started up today, if it does not crakittens lags like crazy.

Well I’m having the same issue, when its does not kick me im getting insane lag I never gotten before. This is new and seems to be tied to whatever the last patch or hotfix a day or two ago did.

Well, then lets have a great match up.

I look forward to fighting some of the great SF roaming guilds and players again from the last match, and of course to those on HoD.

There is a guardian and war that would like some matches with our friends from the last thread. Ill fill the 3rd slot with necro, 3 v 3 was chosen because it will display these two players skill while requiring team work, 3 v 3 its also easier to set up and we know the players already…. a mirror match would be most rewarding for both sides however if a warrior can not be found fill in use another guard or whatever you feel gives an edge.

Send me and lets get it setup sometime this week.

Logged on late again and missed all this… lol

Both guilds can and do kill each other its a even match up as far as I’m concerned.

Before i read the forums, I got turned down for a 3 v 3 because perfect group makeup is not online, I thought that was strange now I know why and its silly… both guilds understand classes and group make up and know when they have the advantage, disadvantage or its even….. that has never stopped either guild from engaging, now there is going to be worry of getting trolled so fights will be avoided when people are on alts or the group make up is not perfect.

BS and PAXA have been respectfully fighting each other for sometime, with a very little forum chest thumping probably because everyone knows how good the other guild is, 1 win can be followed by multiple loses quickly.

Lets move on, I’m as guilty as anyone but its getting a bit crazy how much we are posting about roaming guilds its overwhelming the thread about FC vs ET vs HoD. Next match lets just make our own thread and not invite the plebs.

Havvik Nightseeker.3485:

thank you [BS] for the fights last night. we tried to make it as fair as possible (6v8? haha XD) but pugs kept jummping in. always fun to fight talented small mans like urself.

In all the chaos I missed your post, just wanted to say I enjoyed the fights.
Earlier that night before the set matches I got a chance to see your guild zerg bust. I was impressed with the organized pushing for a kill or two then back for a reset/killing overextenders then pushing in for more kills. Clearly not just mindless zerging, those were real tactics and builds made to suit the kind of WvW you do. Lets be honest the kind of WvW you do is the real point of guild wars 2 WvW, for all the chest thumping small man guilds do we add much less then we could to our servers point tally.

So respect for fighting a specialized small man guild like you did when its unlikely you will ever see us defending or taking objectives a situation that would give your guild the edge because of class builds, practice and expertise with that kind of WvW.

Jscull.2514:

Geoski you on drugs? Missed you guys last night. Xom was running a 4 man, but we had our fg on. I like that guy he’s a battler. Xom, cheers m8.

I would say yes Lil Homie was at that time, apparantly post like that and stopping rez on me at 99% are sure signs he is high.

lol battler must be code for punching bag. Whenever we win many fights vs zergs I start to think we can’t be beat and I can just run into any group or zerg and face tank them….. About 3 seconds later and a stomp PAXA brings me back to reality.

Bhawb.7408:

Look at Gibbly’s build (it is the generic condi damage build that most people use), it isn’t really difficult to use at face value, has a lot of growing room where you can expand towards the skill cap that the build allows.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNAW7YjMat7xbib87JApCPH944gNm6B8pzOA-TsAgyCuI+S9l7LzXyvsfN8Y5xeBA

This is a great starting point, avoid power builds for now. Start with condition then move to hybrid down the road if you like.

Well you have the two bottom population servers ET and Ferg that already know without a doubt they will lose every week due to having such a small population. Add rewards to winning server and you will have even more bandwagon jumping.

You want to add rewards? Make it so numbers must be even in all zones or within 20%. ET only has 10 on a map then only 12 from the other servers can join the map, then you will see who the better server and players really are…. of course queues would break the game for the zerg servers.

The core problem in GW2 is the huge edge numbers advantage give due to multiple rallies off one kill, mass speed rezing in down state. Confussion and retal nerf AoE caps…. its like Anet is making it harder by design to beat mindless zergs with smaller numbers.

atomicjellybean.5389:

AND especially you DETH, you guys gave us such a laugh with how many times we wiped the floor with you with our pug zerg lol.

I like it, a little smack talk, let me stoke the flames a bit by pointing out Deth has a vid of them totally dominating your tag on the WvW forum.

What was the reason you did not get crushed by deth again this time? I think I know.

You say “our pug zerg lol” as if that’s a handicap when there is clearly VLK and other tags from guilds known to be solid players in the screen shot. Perhaps the ‘pugs’ are why you did not get destroyed as is typical when you fight Deth, perhaps you should respect the good players that saved you from making deths video highlights again.

Then again I could be wrong /cheers

I already had sexy covered for week with my pic.

About 10 seconds into the video I found myself hoping it would change to a Rick roll…

I liked the vid got to about the 1:50 in mark when you stacked your 5 people then rolled out and killed like 40 maybe 50 hard to tell. The green dots are bad guys right? There were alot of green dots, you must of been fighting 50+ easy the whole video.

The HoD zergers in this tread are just mad, well played sir. They might not know but I know to run the other way when I see the deth tag coming at me.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Azaruil.3406:

Petezahut.3068:

katz.8376:

i’m afraid i’m gonna have to agree too. if you don’t outnumber PAXA, you need to be very focused on VERY tight small group tactics and player killing as fast as humanly possible

no just run moar guards

Or necros to counter their guards.

^ like Xomox. He always hurts me. Evil bald man. <3

Score update? <— For on topic reasons. No derailments!

Hush… necros do nothing ignore us.

Skarloc.2569:

So I should respond to ignorant posts made by people nerd raging with less sarcasm?

People are ok with sarcasm if you are bad at the game, its why i tend to get away with it.
If you are good and end up winning all the time people will view sarcasm as arrogant resulting in more rage.

Mammoth.1975:

Again, the only classes we lose to in attrition battles are those that spam cleanse constantly. The problem isn’t necro, it’s rampant cleanses from 2 classes in particular, both of which are pretty sharp at cleansing their team too.

Constantly is the keyword too. If there was any kind of real recharge time on ranger and ele cleansing traits, the problem would be solved.

A good condi Eng or a good thief built for attrition do it better then a necro. Stealth tanky Mes will show you some attrition also. I agree however it the crazy fast cooldowns on cleanse for some classes.

The mighty troll, you are plenty annoying in the necro forums with bad advice and statements confusing necros asking for help, constantly drowning out good necros giving good advice with your idiotic comments.

Mesmer has already been nerfed a fair amount. Must you also troll this class forum?

100% correct every serious necro knows we are not attrition. It becomes painfully obvious when you start to duel and small group fight good Eles, Engs, Rangers, Thiefs, Mesmers, Guard…. actually any class can build for better attrition then a necro other then war, but at least wars have solid burst spec.

Yeah I finally gave up after much gold spent on shaman stat and cleric stat gear and constant testing….. we are terrible at attrition because our heals/regen along with damage avoidance is bad, worst in the game actually. We could be ok at attrition if we gained health while in DS, not gaining health while in DS and losing regen/buff duration when in DS crushes all possible regen/attrition builds.

Avoid talking about how elite at necro you are folks…. the OP clearly understands the class and is not asking for play advice, he is simply stating necro is terrible at attrition something Anet seems to think the class is good at.

Grimms.9016:

Hey gang,

First of all I want to thank everyone that has supported me and shown interest in my play style, builds, and videos. I’m here only to entertain (and maybe even inspire) other’s who see Guild Wars 2 in the same light as I have.

I am leaving the game. It has been a great ride, and I have nothing but respect and love for Guild Wars 2 and everything that they have offered (and that they have in store for the future).

This is my MO as a gamer, I come, I leave a mark (hopefully), then I move on. I’m not sure where my next gaming venture will be (Most likely ESO) but I will be sure to bring my fast reaction play-style and A-game! Arena-Net has developed an amazing platform that I hope reaches far into the future of gaming.

And to my fellow mesmers… My amigo’s. Feel free to expand on, copy, improve on my build’s and take mesmer gaming to levels that I could only dream of. It’s been a great ride guys. I want to thank you all for following me every step of my journey here. To all the people that faced me in duels, to everyone I helped, to everyone I kitten ed off, and to you, the mesmer that just happened to stumble upon this thread many moons from now… Show your enemies how to mesmer. Show them heart. Show them Skill. Make me a believer. Love you all.

“I’ll will see you again. But not yet… not yet.”

-Seven Mirror

Thats a shame, I was looking forward to dueling you again when our servers get matched up.

I started my mes back up, Hallucination gave me a good build but I was wondering if you have a good stealth build with torch I plan on sticking with the Necro for group play and pulling out the mes for solo roaming or due with thiefs so a good stealth build is something I want to try if viable in your opinion.

I tend to do the same thing you do in MMO’s master a class then dip for awhile or move to the next MMO, but ESO is a long way out hope to see you again in GW2 if not maybe Ill see you in ESO.

If you epidemic/corrupt boon go Rabid
If you use wells go Carrion or Carrion/Rabid mix heck even some PVT mixed in the bunch will work great.

You are all kind of getting hung up on minor details. The answer is…. depends on your build and utility choices.

TyPin.9860:

Rly? Broke? Lately I am roaming with a rabid condition necro and I must say that thieves give me the least trouble. I see them going into stleath and droping out of it in downed mode, cuz I placed Marks and other AoE where I expect them to be…

I have now trouble though against rangers with this setup… Should I now call for rangers are broke?

He is complaining about the ability of a thief to kill people in zergs with little fear of death. Everyone knows a good thief never needs to die in WvW unless they chose to stay and die…. also why did you bring up rangers? The OP is not talking about 1 v 1 fights and rangers cant attack a zerg and get away like a thief can.

Nope, condition damage never scales with skills, traits, runes, etc… that say they increase damage by a %.

Skill can only get you so far in this game of downstate fast rezzing and limitless rally from one stomp.

Its broken, still good small groups can do ok, they would do much better with a fix to the rally system. 1 stomp max two rez.

You’re calculations for server ranking is not taking WvW populations into account clearly its should.

Do a better job, you seem like a bunch of shoot from the hip ‘concept’ clowns that cant do any heavy lifting.

p.s. Yes I code, but in an industry that does not allow so many…mistakes.

Stop being lazy coders, account for active WvW player populations in the match ups.

lol Bulk

Being decent at the game is a requirement to get into BS, I had to use all my charm to make up for a skill gap to get in. Bulk however has loads of skill, he gets more out of the warrior class then most, he also says exactly what he thinks. Many of you probably have the same guild/server pride our resident warrior guru does, you just would not post about it in such an enthusiastic way.

I and others in BS might think a guild/player is great while some might not agree, what we all agree on is the love of a good wvw fight.

Thanks for the fights this week SF and HoD.

Edit: I need a hat.

People tend not to get involved because what might seem like a gank is actually a group vs group fight, hard to tell sometimes. Fight night does get a little chaotic at times, but its a great way to test builds and practice.

I had already spent hours dueling multiple people from KING over the weekend and had no issues with them, all of them are great players that just wanted to duel. I figured you had disrupted fight night in someway, when you started raging about how you could beat them 1v1 they needed 2 etc…. I really did not feel the need to help at that point. Why you singled BS out I’m not really sure, other people from ET did not help.

You are from SF and got spiked by people from SF, it happens no reason to make a post about it. I moved from HoD, do you have any idea how many posts I would have to make if I came here everytime HoD people spiked me…. heck Anet would have to add forum server space if I was going to post just the times KoM and PAXA have spiked me.

/shrug

p.s. @ KING wish I had more time for duels tonight, hope our servers get matched up again.