Guild Wars 2

Nova Stiker.8396:

Does anyone here actually want the world tournament? I’m upset because GW2 is not Esport ready and the money can be used to improve the massive list of PvP’s problems. We’ve talked about the problems over and over and over here on the forums but it’s like ArenaNet pretends that what we say, doesn’t exist :\

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Seriously though, where is the crowd of PvPers that begged for this? This tournament is meant for the community, right?

They’ve already made up their decision so all we can do is hope for the best.

If they address the concerns of the community and created incentives around it, I’m certain they will get more organic participants – meaning growth in active, loyal user base. But they want to take shortcuts and turn this into esports fast.

What if they reserved a tiny amount of that prize pool for an official anet solo queue tourney. If your pug team wins, everyone advances. I know something like that will have many flaws but at least it’s making an attempt to make sure everyone get a chance at winning.

Not having a separate solo queue is unhealthy. I’ve beaten many premades but in principle, it’s just not a sound practice to have solo queued people feed teams.

Wow this queue is long…..

supvil.3470:

This reminds me of my ex gf. I ended up giving her more and more money. While she appreciated it, it didnt really improve our relationship and we ended up breaking up.

They shouldve used a big part of that price pool to hire devs and promoters that have experience creating/building an esport scene.

It’s ok to buy her gifts, nice gifts if she’s sweet, thoughtful. Even if she’s a stunner/arm candy, giving her money would set the tone in the relationship incorrectly. Giving her money is fine if she ends up being your trophy wife.

But who am I to spew out relationship advice. I know the heart is the most stubborn and irrational when it falls.

Baldrick.8967:

Thanks. For wasting more on some failed E-Sport dream than has been spent on wvw during it’s 3 years of existence. Wonder how many devs could have been paid with that cash.

GW2 streamers just aren’t fun to watch. The screaming child commentary on the last tourny made it sound they they were all force fed speed and other drugs then let loose with a microphone.

Of course it will attract some professional gamers from other games (look! money! small numbers playing!), but it will really be declared a success when we’re all forced into spvp by the new precursor grind releasing with HoT.

That’s hilarious and also true in some ways. But I try to see this from a positive perspective and how it might affect us even if we don’t get anything from the prize pool

No self respecting veteran takes hotjoin seriously. OP prolly encountered trolls not good enough to play ranked/unranked. It’s a terrible game mode for experienced players.
It’s where a veteran goes if he hates himself and have given up on life. Everything about it drives me nuts, including the so called vets you described

Fluffball.8307:

abc.5790:

But it is a LOT of money because whomever makes it to the top will have an easier road from having little competition unlike other games.

If it does attract pro gamers, they’ll get up to snuff in no time at all. Once you learn the profession abilities and communication/rotation, high level PvP is more about innate, unteachable abilities than experience.

For example ROM can chug a bottle of rum, be talking to viewers, and still dodge skills out of the corner of his eyes that I never even saw. I simply don’t have the reaction time to do what he does and have to get by purely on me having played a lot. And that hard caps me to a certain level of play. I know when a ranger is probably going to use PBS and be ready to dodge it, but I can’t just be doing something else and miraculously dodge the KB if I’m not waiting for it.

I’m not doubting ROM the Viking’s skill. He’s amazing!

What I meant was there are only what…..maybe 40-50 active teams total atm. And in that group, the final 4 teams are predictable. So it’s low hanging fruit. But maybe things will spice up when expac hits but I doubt the new participants will catch up to ROM’s super skills. Even if it does attract the hardcore pro gamers, they would still be stuck in a learning curve. That’s why I think the first year will be the least competitive/easiest prize to bag.

Edit: And that’s a good thing. I want the prize pool to end up with one of teams we follow and admire who’s been with us since launch and not yet some outsider pro team

The prize pool is prolly not going to the majority soloQers like me.

But it is a LOT of money because whomever makes it to the top will have an easier road from having little competition unlike other games.

If it attracts more participants, maybe they will get pressured to fix bugs sooner. That’s what I’m hoping at least.

From how things are right now, that money is low hanging fruit and ready to be picked for certain teams.

Incentives are getting serious. That’s a VERY generous prize pool considering how small the population is ATM. I do hope it attracts more people into pvp.

give us solo queue pls. premades are hackers

Pimsley.3681:

Hmm, well if you guys know your rotations and want to end the unnecessary losses, I can suggest that we hit each other up in-game and team up. It should be drastically better than getting randoms or worse, F2P people. I don’t know, just throwing out ideas coz I love pvp but hate losing when I don’t have to.

I think you’re better off trusting matchmaking than forming a team off of forum participants. Nothing against forum ppl, it’s just that there are no metrics at work here like you do with ingame matchmaking.

robertul.3679:

glaphen.5230:

abc.5790:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Try moving out of range when you’re immobilized/knocked down? Sure, that’s always worked wonderfully. 8k Whirling Wrath is easy to land if you want to.

That said, if you’re bringing downed health into it (which death logs usually do), then it is immensely misleading, since when you’re downed, you have no active defense, nor cleanse.

That said, death logs, especially with conditions, are terribly unhelpful for figuring out what really killed you. If you take hits doing the following:
6k direct, 1k burn
4k direct, 1.5k burn
4.5k direct, 900 burn
3k direct, 1k burn
6.5k direct
5k direct, 1k burn
2k direct, 1.3k burn
7k direct, 500 burn

Burning will be shown at the top of the list with 7.2k damage. So that was the deadly part, right? Well, no, since the 36k direct damage was definitely a much larger contributor. But since no individual skill on the direct damage beat out the total of burning, burning is shown as the highest damage.

I like how you get it.

That’s why I don’t trust death logs. It combines the condition damage received and posts them in its generic form, instead of listing the source of condition from skill used

i.e. 2300 zealots flame, 930 purging flames, 4300 ring of fire, 3100 drakes breath 900 burning speed, 600 fan of fire etc, It will add all those up and list it as 12130 Burning.

Then someone will qq on the forum and say nerf burning even though the damage came for 3 classes through 6 skills.

Yeah those 3k burning ticks from 1 person must be my imagination.

It actually gets over 6k. From a single guard. In less than 3-5secs.

Dayym you guys. The skills are from 3 different classes – guard ele warrior. I play support guard so excuse me if my estimate offended you. It’s pretty entertaining when you guys knit-pick the smallest detail and ignore the primary message —- Death logs are unreliable because it presents condition damage, in this case burning, into one lump sum figure.

I’m gonna make some funnel cake now and share with y’all if I could

Holesale.2640:

Med kit was barely hanging on before specialization patch, I liked to run it with rune of the defender back then but now the ground targeting thing pretty much pushed it into the coffin and nailed it shut in my eyes.

I’m commenting on this thread to let you know that I like your name and it made me laugh because I’m shallow. I too, like buying holes on sale but sometimes I just get em at Costco

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Try moving out of range when you’re immobilized/knocked down? Sure, that’s always worked wonderfully. 8k Whirling Wrath is easy to land if you want to.

That said, if you’re bringing downed health into it (which death logs usually do), then it is immensely misleading, since when you’re downed, you have no active defense, nor cleanse.

That said, death logs, especially with conditions, are terribly unhelpful for figuring out what really killed you. If you take hits doing the following:
6k direct, 1k burn
4k direct, 1.5k burn
4.5k direct, 900 burn
3k direct, 1k burn
6.5k direct
5k direct, 1k burn
2k direct, 1.3k burn
7k direct, 500 burn

Burning will be shown at the top of the list with 7.2k damage. So that was the deadly part, right? Well, no, since the 36k direct damage was definitely a much larger contributor. But since no individual skill on the direct damage beat out the total of burning, burning is shown as the highest damage.

I like how you get it.

That’s why I don’t trust death logs. It combines the condition damage received and posts them in its generic form, instead of listing the source of condition from skill used

i.e. 2300 zealots flame, 930 purging flames, 4300 ring of fire, 3100 drakes breath 900 burning speed, 600 fan of fire etc, It will add all those up and list it as 12130 Burning.

Then someone will qq on the forum and say nerf burning even though the damage came for 3 classes through 6 skills.

They didn’t nerf d/d ele enough but for once, I’d say that’s a good thing. I’d rather have them do slight nerfs that gut an entire class or build.

For people who didn’t buy expac, they still have d/d eles to rely on for a powerful build. I thought what anet did there was a good call. I used to be one of biggest critics of d/d eles and even if they are still a bit OP, they are fine where they are.

Dat generosity sigil

You don’t need those runes and sigils brah if you only pvp. I can help you clear more space in your bank for expansion

Been wanting to ask what that thing is next to the energy sigil.

Eff Yoo Pimsley you nerd.

Can I have your super pistol skin? I’ll give you the Science hammer skin so you have 5 hammers for your engie.

Think about it.

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posthumecaver.6473:

trytonianYeti.4389:

posthumecaver.6473:

Complain about burn guardian proves only you are bad player. Against burn guardian there are 2 things you have to watch, don’t attack when they are blocking and dodge their torch 4 attacks.

If this 2 actions overwhelms you should not PVP in GW2.

Turret engi was annoying because of the knock backs and tons of condi which you can dodge all or cleanse all, none of the classes builds you mentioned can do such things so often.

From my understanding, he was illustrating how he cleansed some of their condi bursts but not so much the direct damage. The amount of cleansing he did kinda confirms that. He wasn’t complaining about burn guards.

I know for a fact that you are WRONG about the class builds he mentioned not countering turreteers. I’ve personally melted the engie and their turrets with a staff ele and condi trap ranger.

Maybe you’re the one who shouldn’t pvp. You cant even comprehend what others are saying.

When Turret Engi was Turret Engi, you could not kill its turrets like a breeze, like it is now that was the problem.

And the thing he is trolling, his advertising like playing burn guardian can give left and right free kills. Yes, you can kill bad players but to kill competent people with burn guardian you have to be really good.

Burn guardian is soooooo squishy.

#NothingLikeExperience.

Chill

I couldn’t find anything from my comment that even comes close to complaining about burn guardians. Maybe comprehension isn’t your strong trait.

I’m actually in friendly terms with the 2 burn guardians I fought at home. I cant say it was a complete 1v2 because a teammate went home to stomp one of them after realizing why home hasn’t been secured.

I beat turret engies with my cele rifle. Engie vs engie, they stood very little chance. That’s why I felt bad when they got nerfed. I love my class and like seeing diversity within it. I also beat the turret build with staff ele and shatter Mesmer focusing on certain turrets first before eliminating the engie. Poison master trap ranger condis had no effect on the turrets at the time but it melted the engie with limited cleansing the fastest.

Your experience won’t get you far with your delusions of grandeur and limited knowledge.

Cynz.9437:

I will give you 2 good (imo) advices for HoT:
- delete thief. Reroll in any class really (preferably revenant or mesmer). You can thank me later.
- save all mats, don’t sell anything untill you know for fact what you want to use in WvW. Once you know game enough you can sell mats (which probably will go up in price again).

How to know what you need? Well pick a class you really want to play, look up what build you want to use in wvw (after xpac comes out ofc), look up what ascended gear (which is accnt bound on make) you need to make, look up which mats you need for it as well as which mats you will need to actually level up crafting professions. Chances are, you will actually need to invest a lot of gold into mats, instead of selling them.

Aww that makes me sad. Don’t delete thief. I’m hoping they reconsider and buff the heII out of it for expac.

I felt the same for engie too after they made turrets useless and then that huge trait nerf from June 23. I wasn’t optimistic on scrapper upon reading the elite specs so I lost hope.

but when I finally played it on BWE 3……. dayuuum……. I wont say much because I want to extract as many tears as possible before ppl cry to get it nerfed.

Guys Im sorry about matchmaking sucking this bad. What I do is switch between ranked and unranked if I get caught in a bad streak. Believe me, I’ve also been in bad streaks and it puts me in a foul mood I start yelling at everything and everyone including NPCs

Anyways, to turn this around and make some of us a winner, I’ll send 20g to the first person to post a 100% 10 game losing streak.

Cheers
<3

Went against 2 burn guardians. They deliver hard physical and condition damage.

Personally I don’t like burn builds because it hurts my feelings when ppl reject/cleanse the gifts I send them.

Regardless, I don’t want condi burst to go away. Pvp is a lot more fun and challenging when you try to defend against physical, burst condition and attrition pressure damage.

I disagree

The glory days of Turret engies applied mostly physical damage and CC interrupts. You could equip a useless ammy like Magi and your turrets would still do the same damage. The turret’s tankiness were also independent from your own.

That’s not the case with burn builds.

The only thing that I think you want burn builds to have in common with turrets is to have burn builds get nerfed like turret.

That’s the problem with people these days. If you cant kill something, then it must be nerfed.

Sadly turret engies where punished to the point of uselessness because people complained instead of counter.

How could you have countered turret engies?

1. Cele rifle 2kit engie
2. staff ele
3. shatter Mesmer
4. condi Mesmer
6. trap ranger
7. power wells necro
8. MM necro

I guess the OP of this thread wants burn builds to suffer the same fate as the turret engie….which clearly had powerful counters but people were too lazy to learn how to apply them.

And it worked! anet awarded complainers instead of making them adapt. anet punished turreteers coz……

Lets just say that while I didn’t play turret, I didn’t like how it got nerfed and I’ll do everything I can to prevent burn builds from the same fate

It’s a fun troll map for entertaining yourself and your loved ones. I almost died laughing playing this map after blazing a fat one.

But that was a long time ago before the engie and laser got nerfed.

I prefer the pace of ranked games but queue unranked for the shorter queues and opportunity to play Skyhammer and courtyard.

Had a thief carry uber hard in a recent match. Unreal fast decaps, amazing+1 timing, game turning rez…all good stuff we won yada yada

Been playing for a long time so I understand the true value of the teammates’ contribution and this thief was hustling hard

During the match, when I was praising thief in my head, he got downed 1v1 at a point and someone from team called him a noob for dying fast and being the lowest scoring person pls don’t queue rank

I’d be annoyed as fuq to the point of raging like a madman if I were in the thief’s shoes. But luckily he was either a patient guy or ignored chat completely or was too busy to care what the imbecile teammate thought.

How could people not like Skyhammer? Such a fun, meaningful place when it was first released……

https://youtu.be/vZF5e-BTBuQ

I’ve been in matches where a kitten thief carried hard – fast decaps, +1, game turning rezzes. Amazing stuff what a good thief can do

Wow all these Richie rich engies

The science themed hammer look really nice and something I can afford still.

I think what OP is asking for is a separate queue for TDM.

Whit expansion just around the corner, I’m guessing most of anet staff are busy preparing for the deadline

if courtyard and maybe another tdm map have a separate queue, it’s all i will do forever and ever till the end of time.

Thief Wiki

Thieves practice an agile, acrobatic fighting style, which can make them very hard to hit.

They’re deadly in one-on-one combat using their agility, acrobatic fighting style, and the ability to steal to overcome their enemies.

That section of the wiki was written either by a used car salesman or a fake handbag/designer knockoff merchant

ROFL you guys are killing me with the play on words

Mac screen shot of entire screen:
Command + Shift + 3
partial screen:
Command + Shift + 4 wait for crosshair and hover section

meow one twenty.4376:

abc.5790:

meow one twenty.4376:

abc.5790:

LMAO not all stubborn and hard headed people are fraudulent.
Maybe you have an older account that lists solo and team queue separately.

Anyway….burning underpowered, pls buff burning

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You have mail

Wow so generous. I give you super secret tip

When you order fries at ANY fast food joint – Always request NO SALT on the fries.

I guarantee you will receive a hot, fresh, crisp batch instead of the soggy stuff that’s been sitting around for a while. Try it during slow hours. or anytime

….and when you finally receive your order, ask for a few packets of salt. LMAO

I don’t know what youre talking about.

But I like your thread, it’s cute.

I love slashing things also.

Hulkmaster.1724:

Q: Will there be an opportunity to join one specific map (or specific mode) with matchmaking?

Me and my friends don’t like conquest maps – we like deathmatchs!
The only thing we want to do – is to slash other people faces into peaces!
I think there are many among non-prof pvp guys, who think the same.

And custom arenas aren’t choice in that kind of situation – because it’s more simplier to push 1 button, instead of making filer… finding arenaaa…

You seem like a pieceful person.

That’s great.

I also like peas and quiet.

Cheers!!!

^

+1 for creativity

even if no plucks were given to the march that led the once beloved thieves to become dead.

was too late for anet to save
the lifeless bodies strewn in a mass grave

Trying to remember the last time we were in a condi meta. Hmm I think its the one w/ ranger spirits and necro (only briefly) right after Mesmer and eles got nerfed. I forgot, it was all a blur.

OP’s list is good. I gotta add Support Guard as a powerful candidate if going against condi heavy teams.

Other builds with good access to cleansing include shout ranger, survival ranger, HGH inventions engie w/ mortar elite

Soldier
Hoelbrak
Lyssa

Generosity
Purity if you’re really that desperate

stacking might is relatively easy once the combos become second nature. but whats easier is denying them the might stacks they wasted their skills on. ripping off their might using insta cast skills make me feel like a horrible person but w/e I play to win, dawg

meow one twenty.4376:

abc.5790:

LMAO not all stubborn and hard headed people are fraudulent.
Maybe you have an older account that lists solo and team queue separately.

Anyway….burning underpowered, pls buff burning

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use and abuse the loudest, visual pollutant finisher available (works best w/ 2 MM necros and all 89 minions) – it may give you a slight advantage in team fights.

Nice direct damage numbers

Aww this thread in general is saddening

But I lmao coz some of the participants of the mass suicide looked like they were about to go to a beach party, putting on sunblock and sipping pina coladas.

Hope you guys are heard. My best memories in-game were with thieves.

Having a surrender button sounds good to me but I’m not sure if we will be granted that.

So for now, the least they could do is give us what we had in the past and that’s activating a dishonor program.

I just feel that something should be done to prevent people from AFKing w/o trying first. When your teammate abandons and leaves you for imminent failure, they must answer to consequences or some punishment for wasting everyones time.

LMAO not all stubborn and hard headed people are fraudulent.
Maybe you have an older account that lists solo and team queue separately.

Anyway….burning underpowered, pls buff burning

The motivational drivers we have as to why we participate in pvp differs from person to person. For some, winning a few hard fought matches is rewarding in itself. Others enjoy receiving incentives.

There are no incorrect opinions when it come to this. I understand everyone perspective.

Me personally, I enjoy winning a few matches and calling it a night.

I don’t care for skins or appearance coz I let my characters go. Besides, I don’t think they mind looking like slobs.

I have a problem with burning.

It doesn’t do enough damage to me.

That sucks coz now I can’t sympathize with the suffering of the people in these threads no matter how much I want to.

I gave up on burning op pls nerf threads.

Went as far as post results from end of solo q ranked match to illustrate than burn damage is easy to contain. But when people have decided that what they believe is the reality – logic, reason, qualitative and quantitative metrics will be ignored.

I’d rather hang out with a random weird guy because I am one myself, over a pet rock.

Regarding forum mods – even though their job only requires them to do 3 irreversible things, they are the most responsive out of all Anet’s staff. I still love them despite permanently banning my main account from the forum <3 <3 <3

Yashuoa.9527:

trytonianYeti.4389:

tempset

I assume you mean Tempest, but are you serious?
I would say that Elite spec is rock bottom atm.

It was placed at the bottom according to his list. But I think the op was just seeking advice if he should get the expansion.

Harbinger.8637:

I don’t even know why I’m bothering with this post, but whatever. This game’s MM is straight trash when it comes to solo. Removing soloq was one of the worst possible decisions Anet has ever made when it comes to pvp. Soloq was more popular than teamq, yet it was removed because high ranked teams had nobody to farm anymore, so they combined the player base, but that’s a different story and I digress. If you have somewhat a high MMR and solo, you just constantly get screwed over; apparently there was a bug causing this and it was fixed, but I have yet to see it. However, I’ve got to the point of not caring anymore; I don’t expect anything when I solo anymore. Like others have said, you win some and you lose some, it’s best to take that advice if you want to stay sane.

Oh here are my last ten matches, this is pretty much a daily trend for me.

I’m glad you bothered to post. We are hoping this gets attention. Matchmaking improved for a bit but then it went back to its lazy self and took a siesta.

You cant stay sane expecting to win some and lose some if you have a higher MMR. You win some and lose lots is a more appropriate expectation.

any of you have gems left?

if so, im a hawt grill in need of good company.

kdaddy.5431:

Wow if thats the new finisher it is a bit much. I seriously feel like Michael Bay is doing the new animations for the new specs and finishers.

ok that was funny. u sux if you didn’t laff at that…or maybe im shallow