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fractals really suck compared to dungeons

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Do we really have to call it Minstrel gear?

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I just can’t bring myself to equip Minstrel’s as healing gear on my black character solely because of the name and the racial history of the word in America.

I urge you to print this statement out on a sheet of paper and put it under your pillow. Then, as soon as you wake up tomorrow morning, pull it out and read it with fresh eyes. I’m not kidding. Do this for your own good before you start following this kind of life methodology in other things.

Why?

Obviously OP has either come to terms or resolved all his other perceived injustices in the world and has nothing left that is more egregious than this to champion.

A true demonstration of his outrage would be to delete his account and never return.

Arah too buggy to play

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The only thing I noticed is that you can’t chain-immobilize the earthworm in p1 anymore, which is kinda sad because it was a very unique mechanic and showed skill.

“P1 @Tar. Paying 1g”

Black Screen problem

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It’s just a wild-kitten guess, but … does it happen if you turn off SLI for GW2 — or whatever it is that lets you force only a single GPU to be used?

Good call… disabled SLI for GW2, and no black out on start up… see if it holds up.

Will try to re-enable (not that it really does a kitten thing) after the next patch or two.

Thanks!

Black Screen problem

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Hi – experiencing the same. To clarify, it’s a complete loss of the video feed. Reboot required to revert back to normal, can’t alt-tab out to task manager.

Not sure if the others are running in windowed or full-screen, but I run full-screen windowed

Can’t comment on the connectivity.

Running 980s in SLI.

#MakeDefianceBarsGreatAgain

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Wasn’t too long ago the complaint was that people didn’t know how to manage breakbars (arguably still the majority case)… before that, people didn’t know how to strip defiance…

There’ll always be something….

Can we get a hardmode for pve maps?

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Heh… Orr was originally so “hard mode” that they nerfed it to state its in now….

So, no… Anet is unlikely to offer hard mode maps.

Two Options To Make Power Reaper Competitive

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Definitely options.

Definitely two of them.

Should ANet change the Floppy Fish?

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I think it’s hilarious, so I guess I have no pity for pixels. I’m sorry you had a negative reaction to it Flesh Wound.

I thought it was worth a thread to discuss it. And I’m glad you like it. I’m reminded now of an old saying that I heard back in the 60’s.

“Everyone to his own taste,” the old woman said when she kissed her cow.

Wonder how the cow felt about that….

Agony Resistance

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Just change agony infusions to consumable agony essences, and transform agony into a system like that of luck. Then ascended armor’s advantage could be the exclusive ability to extract runes without destroying the armor, using repurposed infusion extractors.

As for primary stat infusions, most of them can be refunded for the original prices. Those which were obtained through loot instead of vendors can include an extra compensation equal to the vendor ones of each stat. Aesthetic infusions could then be moved to the wardrobe, and become easier to equip/unequip too. Wardrobe auras would have a lot of gem store potential as well.

It’s not so hard, really. You’ll find other multiple similar suggestions all across the community.

Agony and infusions are a mistake, and the sooner you remove them the better. More of the same regarding aquabreathers, which should be transformed into a glider-like system.

To call this proposal an oversimplification, would itself be not nearly as grand an oversimplification.

Thoughts on precursor crafting...

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Ascended crafting/buying comparison

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How does the analysis hold up across the various stat sets?

I don’t know much beyond the notes and various posts….

I can do medium and heavy armor a bit later. But right now its kind of a pain to do so since GW2Effciency hasn’t updated to include the new crafting recipes. I have to check the amounts of every mat by hand and plug them all in. I imagine that it will be similar though, superficially it will be just a bit less expensive to buy them, but when you factor in the opportunity cost of the fractal relics it gets much more expensive.

Nah…. don’t waste your time, was just thinking of a back of the napkin calc… would have to take into account mystic forging…

Point being it may be a bit more circumstantial, especially when the value of pages and relics ate essentially zero to some folks.

Ascended crafting/buying comparison

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How does the analysis hold up across the various stat sets?

I don’t know much beyond the notes and various posts….

Keep Casuals and Raiders Separate

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OP is confused between what a “bad” player is, and a “casual”.

Fractals - Molten Furnace

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There is a small mailbox here.

We will see a new fractal in ep 6! [edit]

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Aye.. meaningful discussion is already hard enough to find

Nightmare challenge mode

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if yo can 2 man the normal you should be able to 5 man the cm even with pugs or even solo the first boss and ask fr mindless dps for the next 2.

Maybe the other half of the duo is the one that could solo CM

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“t4 1/5” ?

Dude is going for T4 dailies, party is filled with one person.

But why need 5?

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“t4 1/5” ?

Fractal (lack of) loot

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Rewards are better than they’ve ever been… definitely more than some deserve.

Why don't new fractal players say anything?

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One person I know who advertised dungeons back when people still thought they were hard… used to ask a simple math question in their advert. When someone joined the party, the organizer would ask for the answer and kick anyone who didn’t know what the question was.

They weren’t looking for the best players, just for people who paid attention. According to them, their runs were always smooth after that. I imagine it might work the same for T4 fractals… although many of us dislike /kicking anyone without a really solid reason.

Foo… I was told there would be no math….

devs: plz no more story content to enter zone

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Teleport to a friend.

Why don't new fractal players say anything?

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“T1” LFG should have no preconceptions or expectations.

“T4” LFG should have no preconceptions of expectations.

It’s been said countless times, advertise for what you want. Don’t complain if you can’t even be bothered to do that little.

Have run plenty of T4 pugs where it was obvious people had no clue. Didn’t ask for experience, didn’t expect it (is not like pugging a 50 before, where you knew those joining would have a clue).

how would you know back at 50 ppl had a clue and new at 100 ppl dont? its a legit question btw i didnt play the game then

In short, it was a whole different landscape.

The barriers to entry were a lot higher – Ascended armor and weapons, along with trinkets had a very limited number of sources; agony infusions did not drop like candy nor was it cheap on the TP. The LFG tool was not robust, and hence many ran in (semi-)static groups. It would be a rare case that anyone would go through the effort to be able to run a 50 if they weren’t at least somewhat dedicated to fractal running. i don’t recall exactly, but i think the requirements for a 49 were lower enough that many stopped advancing there.

The fractal running community was also much, much smaller (NA). There were those in the dungeon/fractal guilds and those regular, lone wolves. Towards the end, there was even a sub-community of 50 sellers.

Fractals themselves were much different. To simply get the daily reward a random set of 4 fractals had to be run in sequence, as opposed to single instances now. So, a group was essentially committed to the process if they wanted the reward.

Few would attempt to try to get carried as it would be painful obvious and nearly impossible to hide inexperience for 4 maps. And no one would hesitate to kick someone that attempted to do so.

If anything, when purely pugging 50s, there was more fear in being kicked at the very end and having your slot either sold or given away than having pugs that didn’t know what to do.

Simply, it was a different time and different community.

Why don't new fractal players say anything?

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“T1” LFG should have no preconceptions or expectations.

“T4” LFG should have no preconceptions of expectations.

It’s been said countless times, advertise for what you want. Don’t complain if you can’t even be bothered to do that little.

Have run plenty of T4 pugs where it was obvious people had no clue. Didn’t ask for experience, didn’t expect it (is not like pugging a 50 before, where you knew those joining would have a clue).

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Do you guys have a good "test creature"?

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Champion Effigy in the Molten Duo fractal is an option.

Easily accessible and you can “set” the difficulty to some degree.

Benefit of additional add on mobs if you like.

Add a bar for items like weapon

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….

In your keyboards.

That’s some next level salutations right there.

Infinite Mist Omnipotion

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The infinite potions remain in inventory, they are not consumed upon use.

Use ’em freely until you can forge the omni.

What to do for a Golden Fractal Weapon?

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Grind 76-100…. grind T4 dailies.

All the while be thankful there’s a guaranteed way to get the one you want.

Targeted while downed in Solid Ocean

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Nah.

Ascalonian Catacombs P3 Speedrun

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As far as speed runs go, I’m sure we’ll never see its equal. Not many would even try to duplicate that effort. Bravo.

BLING-9009 Gold Fractal Chest

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The 10 fractal relic chest is pretty much the anti-rng option to complete the collection (which does award an ascended),

Fractal 40 Speedrun WR?

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Don’t think it counts. Timer starts when 1st person moves.

Fractal Relic Sink Needed

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Viable – yes. Optimal – no.

It is a viable option in the meaning that yes, it does exist. Because it obviously does. It’s not viable in any meaning beyond that however.

You know, it’s like picking the worst possible weapon, skill, trait and stat combination for your class. It’s a viable combination, but calling it an alternative to any of the good builds is definitely stretching the meaning of that word.

Viability is not equivalent to, or a substitute for efficiency – which is what you’re alluding to, and to which I never did.

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Viable – yes. Optimal – no.

Fractal Relic Sink Needed

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Like it or not, it’s a viable alternative.

For those that don’t care to craft, or are veteran runners (with excess pages/matrices/relics/etc. and due to bad rng, a lack of chests) it’s a viable alternative.

Nothing wrong with having options

Recent Fractal Changes thoughts

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Well, flux bomb plus social awkwardness did make for an interesting Uncategorized run today, will agree on that point. But after we took a more controlled approach, and not the bum rush we’ve been accustomed to, it wasn’t really an issue. So, it’s manageable fore sure. At times flux bomb became an amusing tactic to troll your friends Which, as long as it’s good natured made it an even more entertaining run.

My feelings may change after a dozen more runs, but fractals haven’t been this interesting in ages. I’m enjoying the change up for the time being.

Poison trail is way over the top(?)

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Ok, got a chance to play around on 84… initial impression is that the trail is a solid mechanic, however, I do have to agree that it’s a bit over tuned for just a casual run. With a coordinated group, less of an issue – at least on this map due to the nature of the acolyte’s mobility, and arena mobility. As it stands there’s no reason to do 82 over 94.

As Jerus mentioned above, controlling the groups and quick burns seem to be one approach.

Perhaps either reducing the radius, duration, or application (i.e. not constant but in bursts with a cooldown) would make it more manageable.

On a separate note, the instabilities overall are well done, and are a lot of fun. Doing Maw @ 98 we got a nice surprise which made an otherwise boring fight more engaging.

I think it Mists Convergence gives the developers a lot of options to spice things up… Having Duo make a sudden appearance, or the Captain would really make for some interesting stories…. why should Mossy have all the fun?

Poison trail is way over the top(?)

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Haven’t done Cliffside @ 82 yet, 94 was fine, but from what has been said, it looks like these groups ate attempting to apply the old start of stack- pull- strike etc.

After the original fractal change to 100 lvls this strat also proved inefficient.

Can’t search for it now but there were a few videos (maybe from King?) showing alternative strats. A good mez, thief or eng or necro might be a good starting point. Low Man strats might also be an alternative.

I’ll have to experience it before actually taking a stance. But i have a feeling is more of an issue of trying to apply a strategy which was designed to be used under different conditions and simply is no longer as viable as it once was.

Can't Enter Mai Trin

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Working as intended.

Prevents zerging the fractal, as was once possible

It’s not about someone joining the team midfight. It’s about the gate teleporting people inside only on first attempt (and on second and next ones simply triggering the fight few seconds after the first person enters, and locking outside anyone that didn’t manage to get in within that time.).

Why would you assume I’m not aware of this?

If the group can’t coordinate having everyone be close enough to get teleported in, or then be unable to coordinate a wipe to try again, well, I guess they chalk it up as challenging content.

What i described was directly pertinent to why people aren’t ported in after the start of the engagement.

Can't Enter Mai Trin

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Working as intended.

Prevents zerging the fractal, as was once possible,

Edit: Yes, I know there are still ways to do it, but it’s not as blatant as it was before.

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The new Swamp [Merged]

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There’s a difference between an hp sponge and having enough health to not die to burst damage that completely ignores any mechanics going on.

Fractals have their optimal planned running time. Increasing time for a Mossman fight must be compensated by reducing something else then.

Unfortunately, there are fewer groups that can run optimally. Most groups are far from it. Time is really a poor factor to base things on.

Soul river glider 500 gems...

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I’ve been waiting for the items to be offered separately since the day the bundle came out. IT WAS A LONG, LONG WAIT. A painful wait.

I’m not sure the frustration of being denied something I wanted badly was worth saving some gems. As time passed I came to regret being so stubborn.

I loath the bundles. Hate hate hate.

Fortunately I think this (and the other bundles which are available separately) are proof that they’ve taken feedback on board and probably aren’t going to do bundle-exclusive items any more.

No doubt feedback plays some role in the decisions, but financially it makes complete sense for Anet to offer the bundles exclusively first, and then the individual components later.

Can elaborate, but suffice to say, by segregating their particular customer base in this manner, they’re (to some degree) maximizing their sales. It’s not a new, or unique practice.

Soul river glider 500 gems...

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I’m happy about this. I bought the 2000 gems bundle to get it back when it came out and I’m glad other people can buy it without the bundle. As always Anet didn’t disappoint me. I know happy customers are good for the game and a healthy game population which is happily playing benefits me and everyone else. ANet’s business practices make me glad they think of other people besides those who can afford to spend 2000 gems on one purchase.

Right, the outfit is 700 and the glider is 500. So we wasted 800 gems on junk despite the bundle being advertised as discounted.
The glider should have costed at least 800-1000 gems to justify the bundle costs.

That’s not how bundling works.

That’s how I see bundles. I add up the price of all the parts I want (estimated from similar items if they’re not available separately) and see how that compares to the price of the bundle.

Of course that means I didn’t buy the Bandit Sniper pack because I only wanted the glider so my ‘total’ was 700-800 and the bundle cost 2000 gems.

(Also how I approach music festivals – if it costs less to attend than to see all the bands I want separately I’ll go.)

Well, that’s more of a consumer evaluation of the bundle.

However, it’s the provider that’s creating the bundle, and hence determining the price.

From a pure price perspective, the bundle could be evaluated in an (overly) simplistic manner:

Glider 500g

Outfit 700g

M. Kit 350g

D. Kit 500g

Crate N/A

Total base cost of the package – 2050g

Price of the package – 2000g

If looking at it at the time of the bundle was originally offered -

Assume fixed prices are the Makeover and Dye kits (850g), that leaves 1150g to be accounted for by the Glider and Outfit.

Most Outfits cost 700g, so assume that’d be the unit price of the outfit

Gliders come in at either 400 or 500, so, take the average price to be fair (450g)

That means the Outfit + Glider = would come in at 1150g (imagine that).

The consumer base could be viewed at a very simple level as:

  • Type A – would only buy the Glider and/or the Outfit
  • Type B – would buy either the Glider or the Outfit, indifferent to the other items
  • Type C – would buy both Glider and Outfit, indifferent to the other items

The bundle obviously isn’t attractive to type A.

The bundle may be attractive to B (premium on the glider, discount on the outfit if average priced).

The bundle is attractive to C.

Anet obviously thought the bundle attractive enough to offer, and did so.

Arguably, this really isn’t even bundling, but that’s semantics….

Soul river glider 500 gems...

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I’m happy about this. I bought the 2000 gems bundle to get it back when it came out and I’m glad other people can buy it without the bundle. As always Anet didn’t disappoint me. I know happy customers are good for the game and a healthy game population which is happily playing benefits me and everyone else. ANet’s business practices make me glad they think of other people besides those who can afford to spend 2000 gems on one purchase.

Right, the outfit is 700 and the glider is 500. So we wasted 800 gems on junk despite the bundle being advertised as discounted.
The glider should have costed at least 800-1000 gems to justify the bundle costs.

That’s not how bundling works.

Design Issues in Fractals

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TL;DR

“Everything in fractals serves no purpose other than to be content in fractals. I don’t like to do anything in fractals so they should just spawn the end chest on top of us so we don’t actually have to play the game. "

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The new Swamp [Merged]

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And why remove the little underwater cavern? It worries me that they are trying to remove underwater from the game. Removed it from the pvp map. No meaningful water encounters in HOT, not new UW weapon skins. Piece by Piece.

I wouldn’t miss Aquatic all that much honestly….

The new Swamp [Merged]

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Rewards for fractals with respect to effort (time, difficult, etc. ) is the best it’s ever been.

The new Swamp [Merged]

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Agreed. It was nice to have to actually have a challenge in FoTM. Once the mechanics are understood, it’s a very reasonable fight.

Waiting to see a solo/duo for the last wisps, I’m sure there’s a better way to get all four while low manning it as the timer seems forgiving enough.

So... now what with +16 AR infusions? [Merged]

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Or just a +10 on one, and +11 on the other.

Please move the Mist Singularity

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OP – only join groups that have or require either a mesmer, or similar portal device. I’m sure they’ll be more then happy to accommodate so the rest of the group doesn’t have to walk up and down that silly tower.